When it comes to the Rebellion, who are always on the move, they rarely get any free time. Sometimes they're usually out on patrol, going through training, learning how to use and maintain their weapons, and then some. But what I do know is that sometimes though usually socialize, drink, make love, or temporarily leave to see their families or loved ones
Yea and if there's one thing those rebels got over their professional army-rivals, it is their high ideals! Their recreation literally is to think about how they are doing the right thing and how worth it this all will be in the end. And I bet they do a lot of X-wing racing...
Is a wonder they still rebel ... All empire had to do is send them cookies and beer ... but the writers for both systems are drama-kings&queens So here we are.
Now this is the question we all wanted answered. This is how we decide which faction is the best faction. The CIS is truly the best. Do your job then power down to nap before going back to work. No stress, no fatigue, no one night stands, no problem, Battle Droids do have it the best of them all.
Well they weren't treated amazingly as far as routine maintenance goes, but even so, they probably did have it better than everyone else. =P Edit - You also have to worry about being stationed near General Grievous, who can and will end you for small remarks that he doesn't like.
@@HazopGaze b1 battle droids were designed to be as cheap and expendable as can, maintenance were almost poitless for them, b2 SBD and bx commando droids probably recived more maintenance but those models were more limited than b1 and every droid the CIS lost in battle or lack of maintanence could be easily replaced almost instantly, factories sh@t out droids like crazy
Unnamed CIS officer: ‘Okay, droid, you get one hour’s rest before we next besiege a Republic planet, be it Coruscant or a different, slightly less valuable one. If I were you, I’d make the most of your downtime while I can lest I be deactivated and sold for scrap, so go. Recharge. That’s an order! B1 battle droid: ‘Roger Roger’.
In the EU, it's heavily implied Force Ghosts are only visible to the Force Sensitive anyway, so there's nothing he could really do to them. Maybe slam some cabinets or something, but that's hardly ideal for a literal millennia-old evil ghost.
Since they were biologically in their 20s not really. Matters more if their bodies can handle the booze. Not like emotionally mature people are the only ones who drink anyway.
you gotta more likely ask: Does coruscant have underage drinking laws the same way as America does? As a brit, I find the age limit for drinking Americans have backwards.
To be fair, our 18-20 year olds in the millitary who routinely go to bars and get drunk are also underage drinkers. But when you're literally risking your life people tend to turn a blind eye
Actually rebels tended to do what they wanted most of the time off duty. The ghost crew worked on various things that they wanted to do. Hera learned hyperspace lanes and Astro navigation, Ezra worked on tech mostly but worked on Jedi skills, kanan taught Ezra but also did games, zeb worked on various pieces of tech on the ship but mostly fixed up his staff and worked on combat skills, and Sabine had her art but also worked on her arsenal of weapons she took from battlefields. A lot of rebels had kids after the Death Star blew up that’s for sure. Luke constantly had to learn Jedi skills from where he was but also worked on his piloting, leia worked on battle plans but tried learning politics, chewy worked on tech but also worked on bow casters and any Wookiee tech that showed up, Han worked mostly on the millennium falcon but also worked on his blaster. The point is everyone has something they do just you don’t see it.
It's the subtle things we all miss. Even the first clone wars episode, Yoda was instantly able to tell apart Captain Thire and his squads traits by seeing each individual personal views of how they gonna handle the mission. Both by their faces and how they respond to the situation.
The situation was evaluated with the standard of armies & navies, thus ONLY cells or forces in the rebel alliance huge enough or operate in manners that resemble such organizations, would be considered. all of those examples you mentioned, thus, wouldn't count in this case, as all of those individual persons were more like agents & operatives, instead of actual military personnel.
@@merafirewing6591 LMFAO, do you really think armies have unions or liberty? I'll give you a gold medal in stupidity but thinks he knows what he is talking about
For at least the Imperial and Rebel troops, there are probably at least holographic board games holovids to watch during downtime. Going for walks, writing a journal, practicing on flight simulators for the pilots, and most of all, socialising with squadmates and other faction members. It's not much, when compared to the recreational standards of other people, but there would be some options at least
I'm pretty sure the rebel alliance off duty activities improved after Endor. Epecially that after party on Endor with the couples within the rebellion sneaking off for some alone time. cough Han and Leia
Imagine being a married male Galactic Republic Citizen and seeing your wife give birth to a boy who looks an awful lot like a specific Mandalorian bounty hunter with faster aging and enhanced physical strength. Must’ve been weird.
The advanced aging and stuff wouldn't have been passed onto the clone's children, since it wasn't natural to the clones. They'd basically breed the clones as "normal" life, then modify their DNA as needed while they still in utero. In TCW, this is also how the managed to get the chips in. They'd still look an awful lot like Fett, though, since apparently part of the cloning process was to make all their genes dominant. This is also why Boba and Jango were so important: cloning "modified" clones would end up with all the issues of incest and result in a pretty poor army.
How about some of the lesser known ships like: MC-80 Freedom Variant(Brawling Mon Cal ship with heavier armor and more Ion Cannons) MC-80 Alliance Variant(Artillery Mon Cal ship with long-ranged missile launchers and turbolasers)
The wildlife on Yavin 4 was probably a big pain in the ass for the Rebels. The Stintaril, Anglers, and Piranha Beetles are not creatures I would want to mess with.
In the book I, Jedi, someone (I believe Corran Horn) mentions that dealing with the wildlife on Yavin is only marginally better than dealing with the Empire, and eventually considers that maybe fighting the Imperial Remnant would actually be better. The Remnant, after all, generally needs guns to kill you, so cover and stuff are at least still options.
I never thought of the ridiculous nature of the rebellion sharing a base with a pissed off Sith Lord from thousands of years ago. Even if he didn’t mess with them. I’d actually kind of like to see a set of sketches or something of Exar Kun screwing with them, or at least with Luke during his short time there
I dunno man, i think Yavin was more fun than how is described. Maybe some rebeles goes on a "Indiana Jones" tour in the ruins; looking for ancient artifacts and avoiding lethal traps and finding treasures. And if some of them have developed comunication skills maybe they can become friends wtih good 'ol Exar Kun and chit chat about differente topics.
The reason Exar Kun wasn't messing with anyone until Luke opened his Academy there was that he was only able to interact with the Force sensitive, so 99% of the Rebels wouldn't be able to see or hear him. Also, think of Yavin kind of like a Space Australia: not the kind of wildlife you want to risk running into while alone.
Honestly, I thought battle droids, during stored up free time, ran various simulations & other maintenance routines. Sorta like _Matrix, The_ & _Sword Art Online_ , but droids plugged into their own equivalent of an internet, instead of meat bags. Imagine the droids having a blast winning the Clone Wars, before reality started setting in & such…
The majority of them would have, IF it wasn't for their cheap, basic processors being unable to handle such loads... also, the power draw would have been insane, & i don't think the separatists would have been so generous as to use all that power just so that the clankers get to 'have fun'...
Yeah, it’d be pretty much similar to when a droid remarked about how much fun it is/was to destroy republic warships when they weren’t shooting back, @@10sticksofbutterandbread34. In the simulations, as they recharged, they likely dreamed that they were more nimble & effective soldiers, just like bones before he existed in Disney’s canon set around after the battle of Endor. However, that is where the joke comes in. Otherwise, we’ve seen the B1s performing other various tasks, right? Thus, while being reprogrammed while recharging, they’ll likely dream that they’re effectively operating the various things they’ll be operating when the upload/download is complete & such…
@@FalconWindblader Right but it ISN'T just for fun. The droids are self-learning AI, so giving them more to learn off of will invariably improve their performance on the actual battlefield. If they also enjoy it, well that's more a bonus than anything else.
I feel like a lot of retired clones would’ve prompted their children to join the empire. I feel like a lot of the late imperials would’ve been children of the clones.
What do you do for fun when not at war? Clones: pop open a couple cold ones with the boys and maybe sneak in that twilek I met at the market. Storm troopers: 00456 does not know this “fun” you speak of. Is it the feeling of terrorizing filthy non humans? Rebels: Shake my fist at the empire and stare at the walls. Droids: I take a FAT nap
Personal I really identify with the clone way of life cause going to a bar after some major battle and drinking to fallen brothers and depression doesn’t sound to bad.
I get that they couldn’t make them sterile through genetic interference but what was stopping the Kaminoans from mass neutering/vasectomies when they were “20”
The sterility debate has been going on for a while. In Legends we do have one clone have a biological child, while in canon we have no clones having biological children.
the best way to explain it is, castrating a man can lead to severe health issues that genetics alone won't fix, and the Kaminoans don't fully understand humanity. They might understand the genes, but they couldn't understand why Jango wanted a son.
@@ArgentWolf95 That's more to do with the Kaminoians themselves being sterile, I imagine. That's why they mastered cloning in the first place: their birth rates were dropping towards zero at an alarming rate. If nobody on your planet has even been able to have a child for millennia, you'd start to lose the concept of things like "paternal instinct".
@@trianglemoebius yeah, the Kaminoans are similar to the Asgard from Stargate SG1 in that regard, both are alien species dependent on cloning, though they are different on a society level, they're also eugeneticists as well. However I do find it interesting that Nala-Se, the the one created Omega, seems to have some maternal instinct towards Omega.
You guys are forgetting that the clones would *have to find money* somehow because *superiors weren't technically allowed to give them money* and jedi didn't have personal money anyway (unless you are Anakin who probably has a stash, explaining why the 501st were in bars), and that combined with the fact that most people we see in clone bars are naval officers, I am guessing some kind Republic/Imperial officers gave their subordinates some credits. Unofficially, of course! ......As for the soldiers? They probably looted some villages after killing the inhabitants.
The Clones still got paid a salary by the Republic, afaik, they just couldn't be given bonuses and stuff by their superiors. This is true even in real life: US soldiers get a salary, but their CO can't just go "You did good" and slide them a tenner.
@Triangle Moebius What? No, they weren't. Clones were enslaved beings. They were Republic property, not Republic personnel, like how droids are property.
Anyone remember Lego Star Wars Complete Saga? On the 1st Death Star mission, there's a sauna room with stormtroopers chilling in their bathing suits, but they still have their helmets on. That's how they spend their free time, or it should be. CIS have the best solution, sleep mode.
There was one child of a clone deserter, Connor Freeman, who had naturally good aim and weapon handling skills, with little to no training. I strongly believe that this was due to the genetic modifications done on Jango's genome by the Kaminoans. I think it's likely that some of these children of Fett clones joined the Rebellion later on, hence why the stormies were getting sniped left, right and center.
Basically. In the Empire, most planets maintained a standing army of their own, while the Stormtroopers were the *Imperial* Army, existing primarily so they could counter a planet's army should it revolt. So I'd say the planetary armies equivalent to National Guard units, whereas the Stormtroopers are the US Army.
Its also messed up for the Imperial Stormtroopers, they barely had anytime in their hands and what they were forcibly taught within their heads was even more messed up.
By the way, I don't think the Skiratas (and many things Karen Traviss wrote and, umm, established) would fit right in with how the clones work in TCW 2008, The Bad Batch, Rebels, and anything made post-CWMMP.
Hence why they went their separate ways. Personally I prefer Canon’s version. All the same though, it does make me wonder how 79’s got started. Was it backed by the government? We’re the Jedi behind it? Or was it just some local who was a fan of the clones? And between the three options there were, I have to say the clones win? There is some bias as they are my favorite Star Wars characters, but as we see in Star Wars Rebels, off-duty stormtroopers on Lothal took over Old Jho’s bar and made it so unpopular, most civilians stopped coming. A major contrast with how 79’s still has plenty of non-clone patrons. As for the Rebels, being on the run and staying low meant they couldn’t have normal R&R most of the time. At least until the rise of the New Republic, but that was in the last year of the war.
@@rosesweetcharlotte Yeah, are you sure about that? Some women are talking with clones, but we don’t even get to see the whole bar and there are a lot of droids, some even dancing. I doubt most non-clone patrons were their to snag some private time with a clone. I figure most people attend this bar instead of others because they have high fascination in the clones and want to see what they’re like. Otherwise, their visits are no different than those at other bars. The best counter I can make to your point is the question of if clones have money? I’m doubtful about that given how giving the clones pensions is itself a divisive point in the Senate. Seems more likely the army just paid for things they couldn’t provide. By that logic though, that would mean 79’s was a government establishment. They’re just isn’t enough evidence to support or refute this. Anyways, no pay means no money to exchange in return for losing one’s virginity. Dates at least seem possible, but I wonder if most people wouldn’t pursue such things with clones given how they all looked the same to people, not to mention being on the frontlines for so long. It’s not like the military will tell them if their boyfriend was dead. So in my opinion, most female patrons in the bar are just normal patrons. They flirt with clones, but I doubt most do anything beyond a conversation.
Except the Empire was super racist, so they'd probably consider having sex with the Twileks to be a heavily-punishable crime. Did people still probably do it? Yes, but I imagine sex is far less fun when you're risking execution by doing it.
What about the Separatist military leaders while their troops are on the complete shut down and recharging? What did they do while the Battle Droids are being recharged?
although i suspect that the isb’s personal proabbly had a worse than the stormtroopers constantly being watched by their superiors for any signs of disloyalty.
Nah the droids sometimes got oil baths and lil adjustments, like one said:"you should get to sector 7 and get your head adjusted, feels great!" Meaning they didn't spend all their downtime sleepin, they got droid luxuries that kept them in assembly line condition as having them in such conditions increases battle effectiveness, at least by physical functionality...
@@trianglemoebius nah routine medical stuff would be having a proper repair, having a faulty circuit or joint fixed, a head adjustment is more of a comfort than a functionality, besides they probably had droid spas and all sorts to keep them in assembly line shape so their up to standard, funny thing is with troops, even mechanical ones, the more comfortable they are in their base of operations and the less exhausted or depleted they are the more effective they are in battle, so I imagine battle droids had a pretty good life off the battlefield and away from officers who treat them like scrap, I believe they deserve some luxury...
I mean the fear for genetic diversity by the kaminoans never sat right with me to begin with. I don’t remember how many clones there were in the entire GAR, but like Coruscant alone had trillions of people living on the planet, and not every clone would be stationed there anyway. I could see it in a case by case basis but on large planets I don’t think the clones could really put a dent in the gene pool. Edit from what I researched about 8 mil clones were “produced”, which seems insanely low to me. But to be fair I think star wars rarely does scale properly.
8 mil clones were produced *per unit*, but we have no idea how many units there were so it's really meaningless. That said - yes, it didn't really make sense from a genetic standpoint, since most of the clones would never even see Coruscant, but I assume a big part of it was a liability issue. As pointed out: The clones weren't entirely super-mature, even if you take out the fact that they were all basically custom-bred to be sociopaths as to make them more effective soldiers. Imagine the PR disaster that would be GAR soldiers running around the Republic capital committing mass-r*pe. I always assumed the "genetic diversity" thing was a cover story to disguise that as a thing that would happen. It'd be really bad optics if the people knew the Clones were being kept away from them to avoid, again, mass-r*pe, where as "genetic diversity" makes it sound like all the sex would be consensual.
So, basically, The Republic was strict but eventually let you have fun, the Empire was even meaner but let you have mean fun, and the Alliance was nicer but didn't really let you get out and have fun much. I wonder what it was like for the FO & Resistance? FO comparable to GAR/Empire and Resistance comparable to Alliance?
I still think it's a contrivance that the kaminoans couldn't sterilize the Clones without affecting their hormone levels. Can't convince me that the longnecks had mastered genetic modification, but couldn't manage a simple vasectomy And " adversely affect genetic diversity" my ass. Did the kaminoans not know just how many humans are in the galaxy? If anything, all they did was immortalize the Fett family line
That's the in-story reason the clones weren't sterilized. The real world reason is that American screenwriters can't imagine cheering for a male character who has been castrated, because they're American and screenwriters, so their masculinity is already super fragile.
that's not the case. The Spartans of Halo are sterile, the Space Marines of Warhammer 40,000, and a lot of other sci fi supersoldiers are, which is fine. Also the Unsullied are a castrated slave army in Game of Thrones that are akin to the Clones in every respect, apart from being clones. The real world reason is George Lucas decided it, but if you wanna work with it. You gotta have have a good explanation for the lack of testosterone or have a substitute, which can affect battlefield performance in a male soldier.
Would think the obvious choice here is probably either off duty Empire troops (depending on the unit type) at the height of the Empire. An the Rebels when not fighting for their lives Would think the Droids have ACTUALLY the WORST.. hard to argue you should have "sentient" rights if your ide of downtime is to act like a not in use self phone an hook yourself into a wall outlet charger an enter some power down mode perhaps LITERALLY on some shelf or docking station like a huge, oversized, glorified console controller
