This yammie dude needs to Jammie out of here with his love for crotch rockets. His lack of knowledge of what "cruisers" aka standard bikes are designed for is astounding. I'm befuddled by his bias (hatred) of traditional V-twin bikes.
Actually, it's not power that matters, but power per (bike wet weight + rider's weight). I add passenger weight and assume he weighs as much as me If you compare bike based on that, you'll see clearer why some powerful bike is easier to control than some bike with lower power to control
Spite: let's talk about beginner bikes. Also Spite: let's cram in as big of bikes we can barely justify being in the list. I have forgotten what it's like to be new.
The 1100 is illegal for new riders in Australia we have to be driving for over 2 years before we can drive more than 650 cc bikes so the 500 is the rebel that's suited to new riders
I finally passed my driver's licence. On A rebel 1100!!!! I love it as my first and probably only bike I will ever own. The way it rides is perfect for me, as of right now. I got the automatic version (DCT), thinking it would save me some troubles. But in the mountains I switch to automatic and you lose the ability to use the clutch during slower maneuvers. So... It's a challange to say the least. But once you get used to it... And Letting the engine purrrrr a bit.... It's a fine beast.
Love my SCR950!!! I’m in college and it’s my first bike. I got it for $3,400 with only 720 miles; it’s been an amazing introduction into my new favorite way to travel!
Well now we know why spite is the way he is... He was forced to own an ugly street 750 when he wanted a nice scout 60... And everything went downhill from that point onwards... He had the potential to be an actual motorcyclist but he was forced into the harley simp lifestyle... Tragic tragic 😢. So kids don't end up like spite... Don't buy a harley.
Did he really just try to say that Harley was a good looking bike as a "cruiser"???? It didn't hardly look like a cruiser and the picture of the guy sitting on it looked so uncomfortable arms fully extended legs fully extended and still having to slouch forward to reach. Probably close to worst looking cruiser ever. I dont get all the hype around Harley they aren't that good looking as bikes.
I started on an FZ-07.... now I'm on a Scout Bobber 20. I will always recommend the FZ/MT-07 as a starter bike. She was forgiving enough to let me make mistakes but never really left me looking for more.
I have an MT-07 and I think the clutch control is touchier on it than it is on any cruiser. If you can master the MT-07, moving to a cruiser feels like riding a recliner.
As a Yamaha Bolt owner, I'm not sure why it's disliked so much. Sure it's a direct competitor to the 883 but in my opinion better in almost every way. The bike is still plenty of fun and has enough power to get out of its own way. I'd take it over the 950 any day.
I started on a Honda CTX700n. Has a decent seat height for anyone over 5’ 6” and it doesn’t sound weird like the Vulcan S since it has a 270 degree parallel twin. It’s basically the new rebel but made back when nobody wanted it.
I know an 80 year old who cycled the country who loves his Suzuki S40 because he knows he has to live within his own limitations. That is the far end, far beyond beginner, far beyond the era of expert.
Spite, I bought 2 Kawa 650 vulcans for me and my wife. I drove 1900 miles in my minivan to pick them up. Then I towed them home. Almost 4k miles round trip. That was about two years ago. Got her on the two wheeled journey for the first time and got myself back on two wheels after 20 years because of the Vulcan 650 and then my wife sees your video raggin on the bike....Just saying.
I think the issue people have with the Suzuki S40, is that they don't understand it. It's a dirt-cheap bike, nearly unchanged since 1986, and is a blank slate. They make a great bike for absolute beginners to rip around on, they can do highway speeds easily, and they're bulletproof. I'd never recommend a mechanical novice get a carbed V-Twin, but a carbed single? yeah why not. Belt drive is great, there's a great aftermarket for the bikes, and the community support is fantastic. And with how light it is, if you drop it, you will have zero trouble picking it back up, and finding replacement parts is dirt easy.
I started on a Harley Softail. It was nice. Super comfortable and easy to control. Upgraded to my Road King Special the day it came out though. Needed the touring frame for my cross country weekend adventures. 😅
Indian scout. 4 months now and have to say perfect for a beginner. For me cruiser is Indian or Harley . It is all about ”feelings” not speeding. Then by another bike for speeding tickects😉, which are by the way really high in Finland.
I've been riding a long time. The first bike I could ride on the street was a 1970 Yamaha 360 two stroke enduro. The bike I had the longest was a suzuki GS1100E. I loved my 700 Fazer and Z900RS. I'm still looking for my perfect bike. So many to choose from an so little time.
That is a good looking motorcycle. If I were looking at a first motorcycle again it would be near the top of my list just based on price and looks. Have fun with it. Make some videos of it as well if you can. Ride safe.
@@WrathOfVaz i have been keeping an eye on it but to be honest i don't really like the 'new' upgrades besides the j series motor. They added a lot of plastic on it, kinda takes out some of the character the bike had, a real full metal old school bike but made to modern standards
I’m 26 and my first bike about two months ago was a ‘95 Honda shadow vt1100c. It’s manageable and I was able to comfortably RIP THAT THING within two days and only previous dirtbike experience. Lots of dirtbike experience but still.
My first bike was a ftr r carbon, 1200cc 87ft lbs of torque. Im still kickin. Its all about does the rider have common sense. Clearly some dont, but realistically any bike can be a first bike if you exercise some caution.
I got my very first motorcycle at the beginning of august and i got a 2021 harley davidson iron 1200. Its been a great bike to learn on and just cruise
I just got my first ever bike and it is a Suzuki boulevard s40. It's amazing! 650cc only 381 lbs. I love my bike it's super fun and easy to ride . I don't understand why u hate it so much
I've had a Kawasaki Vulcan 900 custom for over a year. Nice bike...except for the vibration around 68-70 mph. I asked the dealer and checkerboard owners on YT. YEP.. "Don't worry about it" was the answer.
I'm starting with a Vulcan S and I love this machine. 🤣 No doubt that it's cheap and kinda ugly, but honestly? She's very gentle and very forgiving. 650cc is enough to take me down the highway to get to work without being so overwhelming I get scared off completely. Not to mention, I'm a mechanic with a bunch of tools and a can-do attitude, so the ugly sound and butter-face are completely fixable. 😁
Passed on the Vulcan S because of the ancient vibration king engine and the miserly amount of suspension travel. Hey Kawasaki, some of us have to ride on rough roads.
I had a 1200custom sportster 100th anniv. Great bike. Then got daytona 765. Out grew both and got a custom 1650 wide glide. Commented on ither vids about gettin another bike. Found a clean 11 R6 and got a great deal on it. Ride it home today!!!
At 56, and never been on a motorcycle, I bought a brand new Honda shadow aero yesterday. Now I need to get my license (in a few days) and try it for the first time. Let me know what you think about that bike.
The vulcan 650 is a beautiful bike, much better looking than a lot of bikes you're praising here. Yes, taste is a personal thing. Fortunately very personal.
My first motorcycle was a 1996 Honda VT600C ( Shadow) it was enough bike to learn on for me, but after a while didn’t have enough torque and I got a 2009 Ninja 650R as my second motorcycle
The first bike I rode on the street (about a month ago) was an MT-10, and the second was a Fat Bob. Managed to not yeet myself off the road, fun stuff.
It appears that the farther we get from that “new rider” experience the more liberal we become with what will actually work as a beginner motorcycle! Something less than 65hp, 550lbs wet, and a very manageable throttle is the right call. Best case scenario is 90% of us start on a dual sport. I started on an 883 and still have it a year later. No plans on “upgrading “ either. At least not yet. But I’m older and didn’t even get started on motorcycles till I was 51yrs old. Of course the allure of a “fast boy” bike is always right there! Would love to try out a SM as well. 😁
Despite Spite's "Dad bike" critique of the Suzuki C50, I've found mine to be a very comfortable and confidence inspiring first bike. You might look into those if you are okay with ignoring the jibes from HD boys about riding a metric cruiser.
@@Hanson_Feet Too late, I already traded the 883 in on the last remaining ‘21 model Low Rider S on the lot at the local HD. Super fun bike. I’m absolutely loving it. The M8 platform makes for some pretty nice motorcycles.
I just traded up to a sportster s. But the bike I traded in I learned on for 5 years before I spent big boy money. I learned on a Vulcan s and I would highly recommend the abs version of it to anyone new to riding. The front end is so light and flickable while the rear stays planted. Leaning into a corner is a breeze on it. Takes a bit more effort from the sportster. Don't get me wrong, I highly recommend the Sportser S too. But only for someone who wants fz09/mt09/660rs speed. Which is what I was looking for.
I was ignorant and stubborn going against the advice of the salesmen and i got my self a suzuki m109r as first bike after i test drove it my heart was going crazy but he i was in love so i bought it but after a few houndred miles i parked it in my garage and got my self a indian scout bobber that suzuki was way to narly for me as a beginner after 2 years i got confident en way more experience so i jumped back on that big boy bike and i now have been riding him for a good year and damm what a beast So if you are looking for your first bike i talk with experience dont go for the big boy bikes its just way to narly and dangerous!
I've been riding for a year, currently on my starter, the Suzuki GSR 750... But I want to get over to cruisers in the long run... So I found this absolutely Gorgeous M109R in white and silver livery.. Here's my problem... I need to wear both my brown pants and my white pants, if I get it.. The thing scares the ever loving snot outta me xD Even though I'm a responsible driver with an easy wrist.. something about the way it growls, sounds to me like it wants to eat everything in its vicinity x_X
Why not just go find an old Honda Shadow or something similar? Spend $1500-$2500, ride it for a year or 2 and sell it for $100 less than what you bought it for.
(Female here- IMHO it makes a difference) I bought my brother's 03 sportster 1200c. I learned on my friend's 1200 Sporty. The same size bike but with a totally different set up (lower suspension, buckhorn bars instead of drag bars like I had on mine, mid controls etc etc) I got on my brothers old pig and whiskey throttled myself across a highway. Fast forward a few months Started shopping market place for something a bit smaller and more forgiving....The Honda Shadow 750 was a perfect fit! I've learned more in riding that for a week than 2 months of fighting with that sportster! (Don't get me wrong I love my Sportster, the sound, the look,) but its not a beginner bike.
I recently tried the Vulcan S as part of a Demo day and had the same reaction, I think they'd make wonderful beginner bikes but as a non-beginner I have no desire to ever ride one again. My wife has the 1200 Nightster I got for her and I ride it myself regularly since she never rides, and I have to say I think a used Sportster variant of any fuel injection year is the best beginner bike. They won't depreciate much more. Are simple to work on (oil changes are a breeze) and look amazing no matter what year/variant you get.
Did I hear it correctly? He got into riding 2017?! 6 years ago?! How the hell did he forget already what it means to be a beginner? I ride since 2021 and still don't consider myself as an old timer- experienced rider.. and I'm 33.. these guys testing bikes left and right every day so no wonder they completely lost grasp on how an average rider thinks
This video is a disservice to the Beginners it is titled for. Starting on a "faster/bigger" bike doesn't teach riding fundamentals that will save your life. Technique > Bike. Especially on turns where so many new rider injury and deaths occur. Technique is learned faster on a smaller cc bike, not on a big bike going straight. Start there, outperform the guy riding most of these "recommendations", and save your life.
Honestly I feel like the C50 is cooler than the M50. The C50 has classic styling and isn't trying to be something it's not, while the M50 is kinda like the Vulcan S except better, it's a try hard bike that will never be a Harley or Indian, and it reminds me too much of the tastes (or lack thereof) of the early 2000s.
I didnt think this many people would be so butthurt that their bike isn't on the list. I have a 2006 m50 and its definitely one of the easier ones I've ridden. It is a little heavy for some people though.
"Older rider in your late 20's, out of that young + dumb mode"? In my experience you don't really leave that till you hit your 40's, just in time for a midlife crisis to start it all over again! LOL
Stuck between getting a Rebel 1100 or Iron 1200. Coming from sportbikes I know the Rebel will do better on mountain runs but the Iron1200 looks and sounds bad ass.
My only issue with getting a Rebel... I feel too small on it. 6'2 32" inseam. Felt like my knees are just too high up for me to be comfy on it. And I don't want to fork out $300-500 for a forward control kit, sadface.
I ride a Benelli 502c as my beginner "cruiser" and I absolutely love it. I found its 499cc inline 2cyl producing 47hp and 33ft lb decent for someone who had never ridden a bike before and it has that mixed style of a cruiser and naked bike combined with some decent handling capabilities. Would choose over a Honda CMX500 and a Harley Davidson XG500 any day.
Is my 1996 800 Vulcan b too slow. I have had it for 26 years and put 61,000 miles on it. Replace it with what? Any comments. I am 66 yrs young and a 500 lb. mc Is perfect for me.
My first (non dirt bike) and my first bike after being off of two wheels for 20+ years was a Vulcan 2000 Classic LT... Not that I'd recommend that for anyone else, but it worked for me.
So, Spite bashes the Vulcan S, trashes the C50, and ignores about half of the lower end bikes in the cruiser fold to boast about the $13,000 Speedmaster and the $12,000 Sportster 1200. Jeez dude. How about some used bike ideas, or some of the other metric cruisers, like the Honda Shadow or the Yamaha Star line bikes? Not every beginner is going to run off the tarmac from the MSF course and go drop five figures on a brand new bike that they're going to drop and scuff up. Some beginners have a little sense in their heads and are going to go looking for a USED Sportster 883 or a 600 Shadow or Rebel 500.
I used to really like your channel, but since you’ve been become an advertisement for Honda I find you guys a bit pretentious. Stop hating on the Bolt and Vulcan...they are all decent beginner bikes!
