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Which brand has the best digital piano sound? Find out as Jack & Dan go on a Blindfold Challenge testing out the Nord Grand, Yamaha Montage 8, Roland Fantom & an affordable Casio CDP-S100 plugged into Keyscape VST! Which one would you choose?
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Piano & Keyboard players have been trying to find the best digital piano for decades. With each new model giving you the latest in piano touch feel & sound, how can you tell that you're getting the best keyboard for you? In today's episode, Jack & Dan quest on a blindfold challenge to take brands out of the equation & focus truly on how these keyboards feel & sound.
With some of the biggest brands such as Nord, Yamaha, Roland & Casio, which digital piano will the guys pick when choosing their ideal keyboard?
↪️ Episode Guide ↩️
» 0:00 Ultimate Keyboard Blindfold Challenge
» 1:27 Roland Fantom 88
» 2:21 Casio CDP S100 With Keyscape
» 4:04 Yamaha Montage
» 5:01 Nord Grand Stage
» 7:39 Yamaha Montage
» 8:38 Roland Fantom 88
» 9:30 Casio CDP S100 With Keyscape
» 10:24 How Do They Rank?
» 11:40 The Reveal!
» 15:17 Let's Hear How They Sound Without The Blindfold
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@Tibbon
@Tibbon 3 года назад
So what I'm learning is that I probably need to get Keyscape...
@dare2win215
@dare2win215 8 месяцев назад
The fact that you didn't have it is an embarrassment to your family name that better have been reconciled by this point. Lol
@andywooten622
@andywooten622 4 месяца назад
Keyscape and Ravenscroft are incredible. You just need the right weighted keyboard and you’ve got a dynamic setup🔥
@kaisfp
@kaisfp 4 месяца назад
Which fully weighted keyboard would you recommend? (any brand, any model) Thank you for your help! (PS. Nowadays I am thinking of Roland FP-10 and StudioLogic SL88 Studio, because I've heard and read really good things about their action, and they are in the same price category, but I can't find a shop that has both to try them.)
@sharingmatters
@sharingmatters 3 месяца назад
@@kaisfp I picked Casio cdp s110 because the action and sound was much nicer than with Roland fp 10 with very heavy action.
@kaisfp
@kaisfp 3 месяца назад
Thanks! I was thinking about the Casio CDP-S350 or 360, because it seems one of the best bang for the buck Casio, but then I found the Casio PX-S1100. The PX-s3100 is too expensove for me, and I think I wouldn't use the majority pf its sounds and I don't need arranger function, so I thought maybe the PX-S1100 would be a better choice (for me at leqst), because all I really want is a nice fully weighted action with a nice piano sound. I think tje CDP piano sound is pretty nice too especially for its price, but I like the sound of the PX-s1100 waaay better. I really like somewhat darker piano sounds (I mean for example Yamaha or Roland sounds tend to be a little too bright to my taste, and I think the Caaio PX-S1100 has a nice darker (and more realistic) sound IMHO, which I really like. I guess I better just save up for the PX-S1100. (PS. Sorry, I just noticed this when I finished typing. This comment got a little longer then it should/could've been :))
@throbberikk
@throbberikk 3 года назад
you guys seriously have to do a Christmas video this year, low light, soft focus, couple of guests just chatting in-front of a log fire with Jack whilst Dan noodles way on the piano freaking awesome!
@AndertonsKeyboardDept
@AndertonsKeyboardDept 3 года назад
We can't wait...
@playnamz78
@playnamz78 3 года назад
Right on! And make s’mores and have Dan play what sounds like s’mores over campfire 🔥 , again blind folded in five keyboards 😂
@calebreid4398
@calebreid4398 3 года назад
Is it happening soon
@siddigelshareef8633
@siddigelshareef8633 3 года назад
Conclusion: it’s more about who plays. This guy is an artist.
@onfire4Jesus2
@onfire4Jesus2 3 года назад
The red keyboard on his left has the best piano sound in my opinion. It has a nice rich tone.
@shawndoe6843
@shawndoe6843 2 года назад
@@antonykean6616 who cares about the price tag 🏷 it’s a beautiful piece of musical art f the price tag just buy it
@ewwitsantonio
@ewwitsantonio 3 года назад
I did a blind listen and took some quick notes. There was a noticeable volume difference on the Nord (seemed quieter), and the Roland had a strange panning issue... seemed off to the R channel more than it should have been? Anyone else notice this, or is it just me? I don't have the best ears, just wanted to share. From my blind listen, I liked Keyscape the most, and Nord was close second but the quietness was hard for me to look past for some reason. Unfair, but I guess that's how the loudness war started, eh? haha Great video thanks for sharing this with us!
@lebinolivier6548
@lebinolivier6548 3 года назад
Interesting comparison. I agree with the conclusion. Montage and Fantom are Workstations, they can't fight with the enormous Keyscape Piano sound bank ( 200Gb I think). And Nord sound is also more natural. By the way, I love the pieces and the pianist. What is his name ? Dan Who ? What are the pieces from ? Especially the first one (played on the Roland and the Casio) , with Bb - Bb/D - Fsus/C - Eb/G ... So nice. At 9:35 I think I recognize Nimrod by Edward Elgar. Again who is the player and were can I ear more of him ? Sorry Jack, I like You too of course
@edinatl2008
@edinatl2008 3 года назад
Binghamz is a madman, kills it every time. I got the Nord Grand about a month ago and I gotta say videos like this went a long way in helping me decide. Thanks from Atlanta!
@Fsuholley
@Fsuholley 3 года назад
Enjoy it. Excellent choice.
@elazarkotkes
@elazarkotkes 3 года назад
Was waiting for a video like this
@realgreyrecords6015
@realgreyrecords6015 Год назад
Stellar playing ... seriously beautiful. Great vid. Thank you.
@karlfeast
@karlfeast 3 года назад
ive just stummbled on this channel and i have defo subscribed it amazed me how well he played without seeing
@tripplejman24
@tripplejman24 3 года назад
Bingerz is BACK!! Love the new editing style too; awesome job Jack
@foreverseethe
@foreverseethe 3 года назад
Funny editing! And thanks for the nice outro!
@hassetjimenez
@hassetjimenez 3 года назад
Man! I just love when D-bingerz joins the videos! When you guys get together it's really fun to watch! Can't wait to see him freestyle w/o blindfold.. Greetings from Panama
@AndertonsKeyboardDept
@AndertonsKeyboardDept 3 года назад
Thanks for tuning in! Loads ore vids with D-bingerz coming up.
@StandForSomethingGood
@StandForSomethingGood 3 года назад
That was so awesome. Thanks guys.
@arlynwillett337
@arlynwillett337 2 года назад
Great comparison fellas!! Very Helpful
@dallasstiles118
@dallasstiles118 3 года назад
Always so much fun thanks guys
@jordanrazowskymusician8178
@jordanrazowskymusician8178 Год назад
Great review. Thanks
@scottc9944
@scottc9944 3 года назад
At 12:15 host asks player about software latency. I don't do Apple. I use PC. I use NI Akoustik Piano software. If one is experiencing latency on PC, download and install ASIO4ALL driver. Learn how to adjust the driver buffers down to failure, then raise them up just enough to stop the glitches. I have 10ms latency.
@daveymail
@daveymail 2 года назад
Thank you! Extremely helpful
@dougmarkham8576
@dougmarkham8576 3 года назад
OK, so this is the comparison I'd like to see: Kawai MP11SE Nord Grand Yamaha P515 Korg Grandstage Dexibel Vivo S9 pro Garritan CFX VSL Vienna Imperial Keyscape Pianoteq various. Kurzweil Forte Ravenscroft 275 Acoustic Samples Kawai EX pro Synthology Ivory II Grand pianos Roland v piano Roland Rd2000. Physis H1 Crumar 7 Those would basically cover all of the best stage pianos and vst gear available and would make a truly unique video one off.
@luigipolitodabundo8472
@luigipolitodabundo8472 3 года назад
Garritan wins
@VoxTone2009
@VoxTone2009 3 года назад
Yes, action on the Kawai MP11SE is a step up from the one in the Nord. Although a bit heavier. A friend of mine just got a new upright Kawai digital keyboard/piano with even better action and sound than the MP11SE, but you don't want to move it around unnecessary. Can't remember the model though.
@mr.c1989
@mr.c1989 3 года назад
@@VoxTone2009 - for your friend's Kawai upright , I can only assume it might be the CA78 (Grand Feel 2 keybed) or the CA79 (Grand Feel 3 keybed). There are higher models but the differences are negligible for the price that you have to contend with.
@VoxTone2009
@VoxTone2009 3 года назад
@@mr.c1989 He said it was the best digital piano Kawai offered. He worked temporary on the side of his regular work at a large music store chain (as a music teacher) that sells very high end concert acoustic pianos (some well over $100K). They carry all the top of the line Kawai pianos (digital and acoustic) along with Steinway and a number of other brands.
@VoxTone2009
@VoxTone2009 3 года назад
I can't unfortunately go and check it out until the pandemic resides.
@randszzob8590
@randszzob8590 3 года назад
Please get three Nords, two of them connected to software, and THEN do a blind test. Fun!
@AndertonsKeyboardDept
@AndertonsKeyboardDept 3 года назад
That's a great idea... We will see what we can do!
@spyrom3672
@spyrom3672 3 года назад
1000% this. Triple pedal will always give it away won't it :) Love your work Jack and team.
@francismascaren
@francismascaren 3 года назад
@@AndertonsKeyboardDept o. Vbloo up
@johnnulf624
@johnnulf624 3 года назад
Rands Zzob yesss. Maybe throw Ravenscroft in the mix.
@randszzob8590
@randszzob8590 3 года назад
@@johnnulf624 Actually (just about) my favorite piano. Spooky!
@66guidos
@66guidos 3 года назад
Love that you can get the Casio, a laptop and some software for less than some of those keyboards. Still, it's nice to not have to boot up a computer and mess around with cables sometimes - worth the extra money, if you've got it.
@johnmcshultz
@johnmcshultz 2 года назад
great piano play and very interesting comparison
@DaraM73
@DaraM73 3 года назад
Blind date format is hilarious.
@gdj6298
@gdj6298 3 года назад
But , realistically, you could use any of them on a gig and no-one, be it fellow band member, artiste that you are backing, sound man or audience member, will say "Blimey, that piano sounds like shite"
@eas26
@eas26 3 года назад
If this is your response to a 3-6 thousand dollar keyboard comparison, you have SERIOUSLY missed the point. You arent going to get a product that sounds like shite for that amount of coin, so splitting hairs is all there is to do.
@gdj6298
@gdj6298 3 года назад
@@eas26 Exactly.
@ndglamr
@ndglamr 3 года назад
Great video as always!!
@AndertonsKeyboardDept
@AndertonsKeyboardDept 3 года назад
Glad you enjoyed!
@dennisjett4322
@dennisjett4322 3 года назад
I just bought the Yamaha p125... I keep hearing it’s “a good entry” level piano
@jpdj2715
@jpdj2715 2 года назад
Well, Daniel Bingham, that was very enjoyable playing. Excellent.
@KierDarby
@KierDarby 3 года назад
Not sure it's reasonable to gauge the action of the Montage when it's visibly bouncing around on the top tier of a stand - the best key bed in the world is going to feel bad when it's supported so unstably.
@JustinDAMusic
@JustinDAMusic Год назад
The keyboard bouncing around makes no difference to the feel of the keybed.
@trainliker100
@trainliker100 3 года назад
I remember back when I was an electronics technician and then an engineer that regular folks assumed I could tell them the best "Hi Fi" and then "Stereo" equipment to get. Especially speakers. People would listen to speakers in the listening room of one store. And then drive across town and listen to some in another store. It is VERY hard to compare unless they are side by side, such as these pianos. That also suggests that if the piano test had them located in different places with drive time to get there, it might be harder to judge. The other thing I suggested was they buy the cheapest speakers they liked the sound of. Some people like big boomy bass lousy frequency response speakers. Tastes vary with pianos, too. Of course, a professional pianist (and my mother was a professional concert pianist) is going to have a better ear for such things. She didn't live long enoughto see the state of the art that exists today, but was adamant they "would never equal a real piano". Of course, you should never say never, or always. And here we sit with most of us with crummy little speakers that came with out Dell setup or whatever which probably doesn't translate the real sound all that well.
@derbar7051
@derbar7051 7 месяцев назад
I can attest to your mother that a real accoustic will never be beaten against electronic keyboard. Some elements of music will never fade despite the test of time -- I'm a professional pianist.
@trainliker100
@trainliker100 7 месяцев назад
@@derbar7051 Maybe. But I've been involved in "high tech" for years and one thing I have always avoided saying is "never." We might not only get to the point where in a "blind taste test" so to speak, even experts might not be able to tell the difference. If I create a waveform identical to that of a certain piano and have a sophisticated enough speaker system to "handle DC to Daylight", I suspect it is only a matter of time. And there can also be choices to select piano brands, model, period of manufacturer. voicing desired, and so forth. I know that two consecutive pianos off the line won't even sound exactly the same, but whatever the variables are, they can probably be identified and simulated.
@derbar7051
@derbar7051 7 месяцев назад
@@trainliker100 I don't disagree with you based on the science behind your logic but I do think that science cannot replicate human nature. The sense of touch and the sound world that a electric keyboard pales in comparison compared to accoustic (good that is) pianos. It doesn't help that I have perfect pitch and a true love for the art form so I am biased. Maybe I am wrong and that you're right in that there will be no distinction between both mediums, but I am sceptical.
@phd_sound
@phd_sound 3 года назад
Next do a Rhodes showdown!
@AndertonsKeyboardDept
@AndertonsKeyboardDept 3 года назад
Rhodes Blindfold Challenge... We will see what we can do!
@phd_sound
@phd_sound 3 года назад
Andertons Synths, Keys and Tech Thanks, you guys are awesome👏
@danieldavies1019
@danieldavies1019 3 года назад
Andertons Synths, Keys and Tech blind tests are the way forward for so many reasons
@diegohuijbregtsgarcia5102
@diegohuijbregtsgarcia5102 3 года назад
Everybody knows you end up using the Rhodes more anyway 😎
@RBLevin
@RBLevin 3 года назад
Adding my vote for a Rhodes showdown, followed by a B3 showdown.
@soyfacucastro
@soyfacucastro 3 года назад
Guys! Amazing video as Always! What about some of the new models of the Italian companies? I'm talking about the Crumar Seven and the Viscount Legend 70'. I believe that comparing the acoustic and electric pianos with some of the models of the other companies (Korg sv2- Nord electro- Montage etc.) could be interesting!!! Anyway, great video, Cheers from Argentina!
@jamesmcmahan1236
@jamesmcmahan1236 3 года назад
I think Jack tried to mention subtlety, but the Montage and Roland are different beasts from the Nord Grand. They both have piano centric models for comparable prices with action designed to feel like a grand piano. I mean I'm not faulting the comparison becuase now piano centric players will look at maybe a CP over a montage. More rounded players might prefer the compromise action of the Montage though
@jesuslovestoastyaya
@jesuslovestoastyaya 3 года назад
Wow I liked Keyscape the best! Might have to get that VST eventually. Very impressed.
@foreverseethe
@foreverseethe 3 года назад
Voted Number 1 VST piano sound on Gearslutz.com.
@JoeLinux2000
@JoeLinux2000 3 года назад
Roland sounds terrible directly after the Nord. I play Pianoteq driven by a Casio PX-150. According to this video, it's a reasonably good choice. Glad you brought up the issue of weight. The contest is about who can make the best action that weighs the least and is easy to transport.
@kaisfp
@kaisfp 4 месяца назад
I use the Casio PX-160 with Modern U, but I have Pianoteq (6) too, but I haven't used/installed it for sometime. Which piano model are you using from the Pianoteq? (Are you Updated it to Pianoteq 8?) Do you have a favorite piano model or preset that match really well with the Casio PX-150? Thank you for your help!
@cplaei1800
@cplaei1800 2 года назад
I got the Nord Grand and was only thinking about the Keyscape as an alternative. I am extremely picky and there is still a long way to go before a digital piano reach the moon in order to sound acoustic, but the nord has a great sound and fits my workflow even though i have to tweak it at times. Their grand samples are still lacking, but their Upright samples really has something real in them.
@dare2win215
@dare2win215 7 месяцев назад
Many of Nord's pianos are licensed from Pianotekk, so they're basically cut down Kontakt libraries. My gripe is that they have too much ambiance & mid frequency. I've found a bit of a work around for most of the pianos. if you're interested, I'll share.
@defan2105
@defan2105 3 года назад
I was blind, but now I see...that this was wonderful to watch!
@HammyGirl999
@HammyGirl999 3 года назад
Thanks for the video. I would have loved more description about the keyboards amd a rank on multiple aspects: Quick responsiveness, Heavier vs lighter resistance, Vibration on hammer and release, Ivory vs plastic feel? Touch sensitivity? I hear his scores but not enough about why. 🤔
@trinidadvelasquez1898
@trinidadvelasquez1898 2 года назад
Absolutely beautiful playing.
@LemonJelly360
@LemonJelly360 3 года назад
These comparison videos, although in fairness all of your videos, are just so watchable. Even for items I have no interest in purchasing, the entertainment value is second to none. If I get fired from my job for getting distracted, I am blaming you Mr Jack.
@dzee7936
@dzee7936 Год назад
I'm looking to buy a new weighted keyboard and this was a great video to give me some insights since it's hard for me to get to a place that has all these to try out. I've been playing software via an older Roland synth and considered Keyscape, but have really been interested in the Nord line. Thanks for a great vid.
@Songwirer
@Songwirer 3 года назад
Hey guys I love your vids, and the playing of the both of yus. I'd only mention that these machines have different purposes, Fantom's a workstation, Montage is a Synth beast, the Nord Stage is the ultimate nord stage piano, and the casio is not even a controller-only. Would make more sense to put the best controller for piano action with the Keyscape, the Yamaha CP88, and the best Roland stage piano. (Sorry Korg has no place here lol)
@Coowallsky
@Coowallsky 3 года назад
Exactly
@stephaneenglish4661
@stephaneenglish4661 2 года назад
Fun review, which gave me a feel for which of these to test (shame there was no Kawaii or Korg, though). However, the test playing was over a very restricted range of the keyboard (no check for ring on of the high notes or resonance from the bass strings?) and didn’t test response to variations in velocity. How about another comparison, playing a more varied test piece?
@karlmeadows4986
@karlmeadows4986 9 месяцев назад
I'm sure the nord has kawaii tuned keys
@IRuinEvrything
@IRuinEvrything 3 года назад
idefc about the pianos that much. this gentleman's chords are hypnotic. ridiculous hands, man.
@Daneel56
@Daneel56 3 года назад
Agreed
@shilakes
@shilakes 3 года назад
Ended up getting the Nord for myself. This video had no small part in that decision. Thank you! I couldn't be happier.
@pianotnt
@pianotnt 11 месяцев назад
I want a nord or roland damn shame my sister passed and with the money she left I can afford one
@sharingmatters
@sharingmatters 3 месяца назад
I love the Nord's design too.
@216trixie
@216trixie Год назад
I love this. He felt like he was back on a real piano at the Casio. I just bought a Casio and it is wonderful.
@Stephanie-hw8mp
@Stephanie-hw8mp Год назад
Which model? Thank you
@sharingmatters
@sharingmatters 3 месяца назад
I also bought Casio - CDP-S110 to start with.
@jasonlibs
@jasonlibs 3 года назад
Great playing. Tasty. I’d love to see the Yamaha CP 88 comparison with a Nord Grand
@plrooks
@plrooks Год назад
Salad fingers.... Haha great random reference!! :)
@zerksari
@zerksari 3 года назад
Keep up the fire, I bought a CDP-S100 this January (thanks to your reviews) and love its compatibility and piano sound, complements my Kawai CA-99 on the beach. :)
@BrunoMartinho
@BrunoMartinho 3 года назад
I just got a Casio CDP S100, and now with this video i feel more confident i will like it :D
@anbalkeen
@anbalkeen Год назад
but the sound of Casio s100 in this video is not its sound, Casio s100 keyboard is used being a controller, the sound is VST Keyscape
@BrunoMartinho
@BrunoMartinho Год назад
@@anbalkeen I didn't say I liked it because of the sound, I know it's a VST, I have keyscape
@anbalkeen
@anbalkeen Год назад
@@BrunoMartinho yeah 👍
@TheGilounet
@TheGilounet 3 года назад
Nice Video: It's not Nord Grand Stage (korg Grandstage) but Nord Grand. Keyscape sounds so good. Nice work
@amanisax5630
@amanisax5630 3 года назад
Love these shootout vids. Well done! Thought maybe the Korg Sv2 would’ve been great in there:)
@AndertonsKeyboardDept
@AndertonsKeyboardDept 3 года назад
Thanks for tuning in, we're glad you are enjoying our new episodes! Would definitely be interesting to see how the Korg gets on within a shootout like this... Looks like a part 2 might be in order.
@playonkorg
@playonkorg 3 года назад
I work in a musical instrument shop (sell piano's) and work in a soundstudio a.s. engeneer and synth/sample and jazz piano player. I have choice enough to choice and took a Casio. I had no experiance with that brand in my 50 years selling/playing/recording. I'm use fan of yamaha/Roland/Nord but this Casio sounding/playing so great, easely put in the mix
@ianflurrance8438
@ianflurrance8438 3 года назад
Get the korg Sv2 in this action for your next one! Would love to see it on a Rhodes shoot out.
@sethmcbrown9492
@sethmcbrown9492 3 года назад
This guy's touch is the truth
@davidchampclos2473
@davidchampclos2473 3 года назад
Very interesting. Everybody should do this, for all instrument before buying.
@lordbachus
@lordbachus 3 года назад
If you want competition for the Nord, get a kawai MP11 into your testing..
@malanhemal6574
@malanhemal6574 2 года назад
from 7:14 to 7:22 Oh my .. I don't know how to decribe how I felt. It was a feeling I have never had, so moving. I just learned those chords after that. Bb > Bb/D > Bbadd9 > Gm > F > C/E > EbM7 > Ebm69 > Bbadd9/D Wohooo! Jack. I love your playing too. I watch your playing videos in youtube. If you make another video can you play these chords? Thank you!
@bdmax17
@bdmax17 3 года назад
Hey guys, I'm getting a Nord Stage 3 HA88 from you in a few weeks time and am definitely not counting down! Could you do some quick tips for the Stage 3 or some work flow tips? Loving the videos by the way :D 🎊🎊
@TheAwesomeGuy101
@TheAwesomeGuy101 3 года назад
The results are just what I expected, Casio CDP S100 with Keyscape is a big game changer, especially the feel, for the price + keyscape I still think that it's the best bang for your buck. Others have also commented that you can just use the Casio as a controller since it has a somewhat nicer feeling. Casio CDP-S100 with Keyscape is the winner for me overall. Thanks you two.
@roland4507
@roland4507 3 года назад
You can hear the love that Spectrasonic puts in their software. I love Omnisphere. It is the best VST on this planet. I do not own Keyscape because i am not a Piano player. But I own the MODX which is a lot cheaper than the Montage but soundwise its the same. And it has some very nice Pianos. But then again I am not in the position to judge on Pianos.
@TheAwesomeGuy101
@TheAwesomeGuy101 3 года назад
@D MD Don't forget you can use windows....... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@ChrisPBacon3000
@ChrisPBacon3000 3 года назад
@@TheAwesomeGuy101 Yeah, if you want latency and other issues, just buy an old PC and try to run Keyscape.
@TheAwesomeGuy101
@TheAwesomeGuy101 3 года назад
@@ChrisPBacon3000 Why would you buy an old pc just for keyscape? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@ChrisPBacon3000
@ChrisPBacon3000 3 года назад
@@TheAwesomeGuy101 You deleted this: "Buy an old used PC to run Keyscape".
@johnnulf624
@johnnulf624 3 года назад
I was really confused why that casio sounded so good until I saw the label
@AndertonsKeyboardDept
@AndertonsKeyboardDept 3 года назад
Keeping our video team & viewers on their toes...
@coreyclark3421
@coreyclark3421 3 года назад
what label?
@TheSitch
@TheSitch 3 года назад
@@coreyclark3421 + Keyscape (it's running through a powerful vst with an amazing sample library)
@johnnulf624
@johnnulf624 3 года назад
Corey Clark The text at the bottom of the screen that says what you're listening to.
@SC-xh8ju
@SC-xh8ju Год назад
@@TheSitch but what is creating the sound? is it hooked up to external speakers?
@JasondePlater
@JasondePlater 3 года назад
Dan definitely knows and likes a Nord Sound when he hears it. After all for a pro musician, it’s all about what you hear and feel, not what you see.
@nathanaelvalville9191
@nathanaelvalville9191 3 года назад
Week he is a nord guy, just like Jack
@davidsanderson5918
@davidsanderson5918 3 года назад
The pedal noise was a big giveaway too.
@dberrimi9
@dberrimi9 Год назад
The Nord sounds nice but it sounds more like an EP to my ears, not a bright concert grand. I like this format of comparison. Please consider doing another one of these blind tests and include the Kurzweil K2700 against other similarly priced models ($3k) from Yamaha, Nord, Roland.
@nizrael-pianocovers977
@nizrael-pianocovers977 3 года назад
that nord sample is godly.
@neilloughran4437
@neilloughran4437 3 года назад
Beautiful piano playing around 8.50 to 9.10. Been working out some of those ideas and they are new to me at least... suspended chords mainly..
@neilloughran4437
@neilloughran4437 3 года назад
For those interested here is my guess at some of the chords used. LH - RH D Bb C - F Bb C F D A C - F G C F (put thumb across F&G notes) ... Ab Eb - G Bb C F Gb Db - Bb C F Db Ab - F Bb C F
@Fsuholley
@Fsuholley 3 года назад
You are so right.
@jefftaylor5884
@jefftaylor5884 3 года назад
Try the Ravenscroft 275 Sample on UVI. I have used it on recordings and live. Closest to a real piano for me. So dynamic. It is a very personal thing though. Great video. Thanks.
@dylanaguilar6545
@dylanaguilar6545 3 года назад
Nord is always the king when it comes to piano sound, absolutely beautiful
@JJDPROMEDIAPRODUCTION
@JJDPROMEDIAPRODUCTION 3 года назад
I don't know. .I prefer the Korg Pianos..
@tinotendamandizvidza1903
@tinotendamandizvidza1903 Год назад
Nah, yamaha
@MusicalEssence
@MusicalEssence Год назад
Grand piano
@medidec
@medidec Год назад
Yamaha Montage but with Kawai VPC-1 Controller or the Kawai MP11SE is my choice. The Nord Grand is not bad (Kawai Hammer Action). Roland Fantom 8 (PHA-50) is nice but nothing earth shattering. I have only tested Casio once. It doesn't even remotely come close to my VPC-1 controller.
@sf3207
@sf3207 Год назад
You didn't played Yamaha CP 300. That's no1
@snakedike
@snakedike 3 года назад
Piano sound is so scrutinized but honestly not so important in keyboard selection. The quality of the sound is about the sample. The feel of the key bed, the construction quality, and the usability of the software and controls are more important to me. I'll buy the sample I like best.
@runawayfriend3632
@runawayfriend3632 Год назад
agree with you... feeling is very important... it makes a huge diference
@jeronimojunqueira5431
@jeronimojunqueira5431 3 года назад
Great video. Please share how you connect the casio and record the sound. What audio interface? Mixer?
@erkiandresnuut
@erkiandresnuut Год назад
You could have asked him if he could guess any of these keyboards (at least the maker) before removing the blindfold. I haven't done a blind test myself, but different keyboard makers sure have their feel and sound signature of some sort. BTW, I am a big fan of Nord's piano sounds, but I recently got to play a Yamaha CP4 that has the best piano *feel* of all the ones I've tried. That's just for the piano sound though.
@MrIanji
@MrIanji 3 года назад
I play guitar only but love this channel
@DaraM73
@DaraM73 3 года назад
As an owner of the Nord, the soft touch membrane buttons are terrible for accidental activation. Travel for switching is millimetres. Why a piano needs a “panel lock” should’ve been a warning that the design is flawed, and needed a rethink. It’s impossible for gigging unless you’re only using one sound, or there’s plenty of time between tunes to release the lock and change tone. Be mindful too, that Nord only have one distributor in UK, which also “supply” warranty repairs, which means a time consuming and costly repair, if they accept to do it. My advice is buy a Kawai MP7 (same action as the Nord) and midi external piano...and is over a Nordgrand cheaper
@Wourghk
@Wourghk 3 года назад
Really, the Nord Grand has the same bed as the MP7? I would think at that price, they'd at least spring for the MP11 action. Where can one find this information?
@DaraM73
@DaraM73 3 года назад
Wourghk Kawai MP11 has wooden keys and are longer length too. Great machine, but more like a Rhodes than a piano with a similar weight too. Regarding the MP7, it was £1300 the last time I looked. Customer service is great.
@jenshuxley
@jenshuxley 3 года назад
​@mgljimcmgl I've played a few years on Kawai mp7, which is more or less the same action as on mp7se, this extremely plastic-sounding loud keyboard is soOo annoying! my neighbors got crazier because of it. The Yamaha and Kawai Action is so loud, that's one of the reasons I buy casio or roland. If the action is louder than the headphone signal, it's not funny.
@jenshuxley
@jenshuxley 3 года назад
​@mgljimcmgl i saw a comparison gf vs roland vs casio vs kawai, yamaha and kawai play in this comparison not in the same League as Roland or Casio, maybe higher price yamaha keyboards sounds better but i have only played the p45 and the p125 and no wood action like on p515. edit: i isaw action noise comparison videos again, yamaha p125 is much better as kawai, roland is the best, casio 2, yamaha 3, kawai 4, for me is kawai mp7 to loud for home learn but ok is it a Stage Piano.
@aakash9058
@aakash9058 3 года назад
I agree. They could have done a bit of panel rearranging to make this a non issue.
@Mrphilharmonic
@Mrphilharmonic 2 года назад
I do like some of the chords you use Dan. I'd like to hear a classical context as well.
@paulmapp8306
@paulmapp8306 3 года назад
For pianos alone, I think that was spot on really. I do personally like the roland V-Pianos sounds ... but once tuned to the individual players touch (the stock patches arnt great). not really sure why you chose the Fantom though - as the RD2000 has the same keybed and same sound engine, and is more a pure piano (OK it has lots of other stuff too - BUT its not a VA synth, sequencer etc that the Fantom is). While the outcome would be the same - the price difference between the Fantom and RD DOES make a difference - as does the price of the Nord V the RD (quite a bit) - and indeed the soundscape version. Have to say the Grand stage is the only Nord piano Id play - its the only one with a decent keybed, and it misses out on a lot other stage pianos can do (the RD as mentioned, Yamahas dedicated pianos etc) - but as JUST a piano - its probably the top choice right now (bar POSSIBLY a Kawai MP7/11)
@jpdj2715
@jpdj2715 2 года назад
As they are in a parallel not competing universe, I feel I can point here to the YT channel of Merriam Music where pianist Stu Harrison reviews pianos. I'd say more as a musician than as a salesman. He did in-depth reviews of virtual instruments about half a year ago, comparing Keyscape to others. I think that the Kawai MP11SE now has the best action of the 88-key boards that look like a stage piano (but may be too heavy). Maybe Kawai should update their VPC-1 with these same keys and it facilitating the MP11SE's 3-pedal unit (with optical innards, instead of common potentiometers). I feel, though, they should also do a version of the VPC-1 with a real real grand piano action in it, like they put into one of their Novus machines. No, that will not become light enough for a single person transport to gigs either.
@musicaldracula2017
@musicaldracula2017 2 года назад
RD2000 is not identical with Fantom. RD would score better than Fantom but in this comparison, the winner somehow would have been the same, i.e. Nord...
@paulmapp8306
@paulmapp8306 2 года назад
@@musicaldracula2017 actually, pianist on both boards are identical. Thete are some more edit features for eps on the rd but that's it.
@schn3ur
@schn3ur 3 года назад
Maybe do a shootout between stage pianos like the Yamaha CP88, Korg SV2, Nord Piano 4, etc. Also, the Roland Fantom 8 can get much better piano sounds if you mess around with it a bit. I'm not sure if you had the Super Natural piano tones downloaded on there or not, but they are much better than what the Fantom 8 comes with out of the box.
@AntonyBailey77
@AntonyBailey77 3 года назад
Bob James vibes there for D B today. Nice.
@stacyhackney6100
@stacyhackney6100 Год назад
Thank you
@enigmasounds
@enigmasounds 3 года назад
Yes... he picked my fav...from sound anyway!
@silgrimmarak8699
@silgrimmarak8699 3 года назад
Roland fantom and Yamaha montage are workstation, not really meant for pianos, but both of them made different version for digital piano, meant for playing pianos. You should have compare them.
@haginz
@haginz 3 года назад
Good job
@popfof1490
@popfof1490 3 года назад
KAWAI MP11SE didn't have the amplifier, but speaking of the sound quality, it's the one, especially the treble part.
@PeyCa
@PeyCa 3 года назад
Great video, guys! Keyscape has the best sample overall, but I don't know what keyboard should I get when it comes to key action. Yamaha is definitely not in consideration, lol.
@abhishekjino3526
@abhishekjino3526 3 года назад
Kawai Mp11Se or vp series
@playalle1
@playalle1 3 года назад
I have used very very expensive keyboards, but damn.... I played a casino action once, and I really liked it
@FlowJunkee65
@FlowJunkee65 2 года назад
Jack, I'm a little surprised that you didn't include a Korg Kronos 2 88 in this comparison. It has some gorgeous acoustic grand pianos in its library. ... Ha! Such a comparison of yours just popped up! Going there again now to see what Dan says!
@dp9324
@dp9324 9 месяцев назад
Korg is hot garbage buddy, sorry.
@mickandrews9458
@mickandrews9458 2 года назад
Good to hear the comments on the Fantom 8 key bed. I am not going mad; I had one and did not like it. I found it was not responsive enough to allow quick playing. I would have an acoustic any day.
@funclaysculptures3758
@funclaysculptures3758 3 года назад
Bings! I love your playing.
@TheTMontgomery
@TheTMontgomery 3 года назад
Update with a Kurzweil,a Korg and a Yamaha CP88 against your winner and a higher spec Casio or other controller with the software Great concept and execution for a blindfold test Perhaps get a very standardized scoring sheet based on the questions asked and comments made in the chat.
@HowardEllisonUKVoice
@HowardEllisonUKVoice 11 месяцев назад
Brilliant piece of work. Each still some way off from a real acoustic piano, I think! Might be handy to include one sometime, so we could 'calibrate' our expectations. Trying to find words for what I hear: these keyboards sound like an over-compressed FM radio broadcast of an acoustic, though some of that might be down to RU-vid. Maybe also try a classical riff? Chopin, Mozart? Such a different texture from jazz.
@arbogast4950
@arbogast4950 3 года назад
I've been eyeing the Fantom but I'll just stick with NI Komplete for my piano sounds.
@robertw.5993
@robertw.5993 3 года назад
Does the pianist have any RU-vid tutorials? Killer playing.
@aurenviljoen9455
@aurenviljoen9455 3 года назад
Kawai MP series is definitely among the top 3 as kawai are piano builders and use really good acoustic modelling to build thier piano sampling database. Its also done using thier shigeru kawai range of pianos for thier sampling of piano sounds
@tinotendamandizvidza1903
@tinotendamandizvidza1903 Год назад
I have to go with the montage, obviously yamaha is the king in piano sound
@dpajc056
@dpajc056 Год назад
CDP S100 works as a controller!?! 👏🤝 keyscape here I come
@hINC
@hINC 3 года назад
I really, really enjoy your reviews and comparisons very much. They're entertaining and honest and with these blindfold-series, even better. Blind A/B tests with loudness being normalized (you may use EBU-R128 lvele meters for equalizing the perceived loudness, there are free plugins out there) are the only serious tests in my opinion. Please keep us both entertained and informed with more videos :-) // That being said, I am not even a pianist or keyboard player :-D Still love your videos a lot.
@kristoferursic7761
@kristoferursic7761 Год назад
30 years ago I bought kurzweil mark 10,I like it still now.
@DojoOfCool
@DojoOfCool 3 года назад
Need a workstation comparison Fantom, Kronos, Montage. Maybe talk about who the typical workstation buyer is live performer, composer, sound design, ???
@fishing4444able
@fishing4444able 3 года назад
from my experience the Keyscape sounds are designed to be played on a non weighted keyboard. they work well that way, not as much from a weighted keyboard. I love the piano sound, when i'm on the road using an M audio keyboard. not so much at home with a weighted keyboard.
@sto_yt
@sto_yt 3 года назад
I disagree with this statement - but then again it’s all personal preference. Why would you say it is designed to be played on a non weighted keyboard? Makes absolutely no sense to me. I feel it is more designed to be played on a weighted keyboard - because the sounds have a realistic feel and pair well with a realistic touch.
@GreNadeMusicNL
@GreNadeMusicNL 3 года назад
It's designed for a roland a88 I believe
@JoseVGavila
@JoseVGavila 3 года назад
I have a Kawai VPC1 (which has a similar action to the Nord Grand Stage, I think) and that, along some nice VSTs, as Pianoteq, Ivory II, UVI, NI and such is, for me, the real deal!. Nothing comes close on versatility. Of course, is not so good for moving it, but in my case, as an studio setup, is just great
@guinhomusico9504
@guinhomusico9504 3 года назад
Nord Grand action is similar to the Kawai MP7SE. Kawai VPC1 is more close to the Kawai MP11SE.
@JoseVGavila
@JoseVGavila 3 года назад
@@guinhomusico9504 OK, I guess even a better action then 👍
@tuneunleashed
@tuneunleashed 3 года назад
They’re all Trash
@chuckc7375
@chuckc7375 6 месяцев назад
The Nord sounds the best to me, very nice piano.
@lance134679
@lance134679 3 года назад
Keyscape wins for me, purely based on its solo sound, though it all changes once you're trying to fit it into a mix.
@jomo493
@jomo493 2 года назад
Love this take! but how so?
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