K real question. Does capture card news interest you? And if so why? What specific uses do you have for them? As a PC gamer, I've had all my capture needs met for about 4 years now.
You can use a capture card with passthrough to chain the video signal of your camera to 2 PC (home PC + work PC), combine with a rodecaster and you have one camera and one microphone for 2 pc without having to use a KVM
Elgato's new capture cards are going to be a lot better spec wise, hold out for those if you can guys! Especially if you make gaming content that uses a lot of zooms/crops. XRGB support getting cut ruined these for me!
Bro, I'm an Elgato loyalist and bought one of these a few months ago when they first game out. I ended up sending it back after several frustrating hours trying to get it to work. I can't wait until February 1st when the Elgato models drop!
For the external capture card with passthrough, you can use them to chain your video signal from your camera to 2 different PC (why? home PC + work PC, combine with a rodecaster and now you have one camera and one microphone for 2 PC without having to use a KVM)
The splitting your outputs by running one to your display and another to your capture card is a decent workaround but some games do not like it at all, it flickers like crazy, scaling can be all over the place, and some games which force vsync on will use the timing on the capture cards refresh instead of the main monitor causing tearing and lowering your fps to cap out at the capture cards. If you have the money to buy a capture card with the passthrough you need I would highly recommend doing so to avoid all of these issues
I was really hoping we’d see 4K120 recording. Been gaming that way for almost a year now, and being able to have my footage look extra buttery would have been incredible. Very niche I realize, but a man can wish.
That seems a little unnecessary. 4k files are already huge. At least in my experience with cameras even a shorter recording is several gigabytes. And that’s 24fps at a lower bitrate. 120 even though it’s not a huge file from a camera will still take up a ton of space. But maybe you want some slowmo shots that actually sounds pretty cool.
It's incredibly nice to finally see some more capture cards featuring HDMI 2.1 as 4k becomes far more common. So kudos to Avermedia and future competitors xP As for the DP Mirror split, in my 7 years of streaming with a dual PC setup, I have yet to meet anyone who actually does that. Though it does seem interesting!
I did it for two years but it was buggy as hell on some games. the games on the xbox game store seem to be the worst for it but some steam games crapped their pants as well. Honestly though at the price of these cards I would suggest most people are better off using the money to upgrade their graphics card, selling the old one and their second system, and switching back to a 1 pc set up. I did that and everything is so much easier and it runs better due to the upgraded graphics card
I think these companies should start releasing DP capture cards for dual pc setups. I get it that hdmi 2/2.1 are more universal. But monitors mainly benefit more on DisplayPort connections than hdmi (pc gaming). But again, not that many people will go for dp (less demand for dp) and that already answered my concern. But I’m just saying, it would really be nice for those who use DP because most monitors get more FPS. JS 😅
I have a dual stream setup and HIGHLY recommend this card because I love gaming not only at 4k/120 but for the HDR! Doing the dual output won't work with HDR unfortunately, this allows me to pass through HDR and the tone mapping for HDR let's my viewers enjoy the game which, when paired with a custom LUT I worked on, makes every game with HDR look way better than any other stream gaming in SDR so it's a win win!
Just a heads up for ya, Downbeat Beatdown is currently being flagged as copyright on your synthwave playlist. Taking monitization. Content owners: ICE Core, SAMRO_CS, VCPMC_CS, LatinAutorPerf Content type: Melody or lyrics Impact on video: Not monetizing Oddly, didn't claim the whole song, only the first 2:50. Thought you might want to know, Keep up the great work!
@@PringlesDomain I disputed. funny tho, got hit with nearly 20 yesterday from lo fi playlist, all claiming between 1 to 3 sec of a streambeats song, same claimant. Has to be some kind of bot doing malicious things. Harris and his team didn't work this hard to promote this awesome thing for streamers and creators only to have it treated like this by some bot BS. Hope YT can stop this thing from happening really soon, before others are hit, and actual money is stolen.
@@PringlesDomain Basically said the song was the song claimed, but 1 the whole thing played, not just a portion, then cited that this was a Streambeats track. I do not expect any response for 30 days. Whatever this is is trying to take ad revenue as a stream gets post live views, and YT is basically letting it happen. If the claimant does not respond in the 30 days, then it is dropped, but it still shows up on my vid/vod till it is released. Very annoying having to respond yesterday to 14 seperate claims of 1 to 3 seconds of a song that did play, but is a Streambeats song.
there is one thing stopping me from buying this card and its the mounting bracket. i use a hyte y60 case with the vertical mount gpu there is enough room too fit a low-profile capture card behind it but all the slots require a low-profile bracket. i know one of elgatos older cards included one but this avermedia one doesn't even tho is has a low-profile form factor
Not to throw shade on AverMedia, but I bought the LiveGamer Ultra and it was so bad I had to send it back. Full disclosure, I'm an Elgato fanboy, but I was willing to break rank and give AverMedia a shot so I could passthrough 4k120 from my Xbox Series X. I'm used to plug and play, and this wasn't that. I was never able to get a picture to passthrough. After hours of frustration and zero information online to help, I gave up and returned it. The good news is Elgato is supposedly launching their HDMI2.1 capture cards February 1st!
All Other Capture Cards Have Pass Thru Latency. Cloning Also Has Its Issues. Ill Eventually Try This One To See If The Passthrough Is Better. Also If You Have AD Block Installed, And Feel Like Your PC Games And Videos, RU-vid And Feel Like Your Getting Micro Stuttering. Remove It. Everything Will Run Better. Im Talking About The Ad Block Google Extension. The StopSign Looking One. Cant Speak For The Others.
Do they capture the sound as well? Or do you need something else for it? I ask because I have a gaming desktop PC which I use to run the games, and I have a laptop I want to use for OBS Streaming. Do I need one of those cards and does it include sound on the HDMI?
out of curosity what is stopping companies like NVidia from partnering with a company like elgato to make a built in recorder off the gpu NOT SHADOWPLAY(IT SO BAD NO MULTI AUDIO TRACKS FOR DISCORD OR GAMECHAT SUCKS) as of this moment i use obs replay buffer but i find the frame loss to not be worth it
As a streamer I always appreciate your videos. I watch the videos and always say to myself, "There goes Harris making my bank account deplete again." Love the vibe and helpful information. I wouldn't be anywhere close to what I do (which isn't much) without you!
@2:22 not nothing. The usb c version has a 3.5 trrs input and pass through that you lose to the pcie version. So if you need the extra audio input for your setup the usb c version is more valuable to you. Same with the other new card. You gain vrr support and 4K over the live gamer HD but you lose 3.5mm input and pass through and it costs an extra $30.
Are you planning on covering the new Mackie products announced yesterday? Would love to hear your input on the first stuff released since Rode acquired them!
Thank you for putting some positive energy into this video. It made it entertaining to watch. I watched the video about the same products on another channel. And I just felt depressed afterwards.
Hi harris, could you please elaborate on what you said at 5:50 about not needing a capture card for a 2 PC setup? So you use the display port to connect GPU & Monitor, but how do you get the signal to your streaming PC (in my case a Zephyrus g14) through HDMI without the capture card? I don't fully understand what you mean by mirroring it.
I cant find one video on youtube showing this method. what would the intake look like on the streaming PC? there would have to be an elgato linking the PCs right?
Not needing the passthrough for 2 pc setup. You clone your monitor to hdmi in your gaming pc and that goes to capture cards in port. Most dual pc streamers use capture cards like this.
I own an Elgato 4k60 Pro, it has done what I need it to do and done it well. I rarely game at 4k although I do have a 4k display. It is interesting to see the latest releases though!
I have the older version of the Livegamer capture card but it would crash on me almost daily. I don't know if it was a issue with my PC or because of the Elgato HD60x ( I have a triple PC setup) but I finally got tired of it and replaced it with another HD60x
I'm really excited for the future of streaming, Twitch seems to making some good choices after what has recently occurred over there 👀. Hopefully they won't go back on the promise to pay streamers more or at least invest more into them. With the announcement of enhanced streaming and new powerful capture cards like these, I wondered if you could make a video on the modern streaming computer setup, i.e hardware components, software components and why they are important. Considering that these new transcoding and encoder options coming to twitch utilize hardware encoding making CPU-based streaming rigs a lot more redundant if you're looking for the best performance. This particularly concerns me with AV1 as it is only native to GPUs. Of course the CPU is important but some guidance on components would be great so people aren't overinvesting in the wrong areas on these setups! As always you produce amazing videos, thank you for that.
I run my newer consoles through an AVR the capture card then passtrough to tv and all my mini/retro consoles throughan hdmi switch then a separate capture card and pass back to the tv on a different hdmi input.
honestly im curious how BlackMagic Design's "broadcast quality" HDMI ingest/capture cards compare to the more "gamer" focused offerings especially if your aren't capturing high frame rates like 120fps or above
I use the Avermedia live gamer duo, the one that does your camera and another thing like a console, but it’s old so lacks these features, could really do with a replacement 😬 I don’t really want to use a camlink for example
Im very curious if these have the AMD audio issue. Im using an external Avermedia capture card right now, but due to audio issues, I'm using the line out on the card for audio xd. Not pretty. Would be cool to switch to something internal assuming no audio problems
You mentioned dual PC set up... Everything I found always talk about using a cap card or NDI. You are saying you can connect your game PC to the streaming PC using a HDMI cable from graphics card to graphics card? Or was using that as a reference for if you already had a cap card no need to get the newer one
I think the reference was that you don't need the enhanced pass-though capabilities these devices offer because you can clone a display instead and go right from your PC to your monitor while still capturing said content -ie - Output the same signal twice from 2 different ports - one to capture on stream PC and one to your monitor, rather than output to capture card - then output FROM capture card.
As someone using the Live Gamer DUO from Avermedia I wonder if they'll release a new version? I use it because I pass a mirrorless into the capture card which is VERY nice one a single card
guess people are using these to minimize their pc performance loss. Gaming in 2k 240hz having to record and stream to twitch, takes some juice. Having the capture card do the recording part and suddenly you free up some ressources that translates directly into fps or Vram headroom.. atleast that's my guess, not everyone is sitting on Rtx4070 or better. Honestly i have never seen benchmarks for this thesis, but it sounds about right.
i dont stream and probably never will i still enjoy and watch every video and like them so much Just enjoy the positive energy, good vibes and based takes
Thank goodness because this razer one is completely annoying. So much Razer bloatware, and even if I disable it from start-up, it still starts up. Eventually just uninstalled everything.
I had really big visual stutters on streaming in dual PC with elgato 4K because I have 360hz and the elgato only take to 240hz, so the output was in 240hz but my PC was running the game at 360 and the stream is at 60 so it was doing a lot of weird artefacts. Does this capture card resolve that issue you think ?
Question for people; what is the point of capture cards? I stream/play/compete on PC. Will it make the stream/recordings look better? Or is there no difference vs. normal screen capture on like streamlabs/obs?
It’s more for 2 pc setups and camera capturing. Makes it simple as well as takes the extra load off your gaming pc. So you wouldn’t have to worry about ANY performance hit with streaming
I cannot, for the life of me, understand why you're not punking anyone at Avermedia or Elgato for a Dual-input single-passthrough HDMI capture card? So many streamers, who run single-pc setups are having to resort to capturing whatever console they play on through an capture card, and then buying a cam-link or similar for their camera? Why not create a single capture card that allows camera input, and then a console input with a passthrough?
Ah yes, 4k is now 3840p. Must be a really big jump from 1440p. (for real though, there's a discrepancy in the graphics in the video at 2:36 and 2:54, following the same logic as in the other lines 4k would be 2160p)
Hey guys, help me out. Where do I find how to do the thing he says @5:45 .. I can't find any video with this method.. It either stream from obs to obs, ndi or teleport. Can't find the HDMI mirroring thing he mentioned
With each new video that talks about all the newest and best and even bestest capture cards, it more and more feels like I shouldn't buy one because it will be obsolete tomorrow anyway.
I'll never trust capture card companies again, i'll buy 2 temu capture devices (one for a backup) before wasting my money again on outdated hardware because they are too lazy, too dumb or too cheap to produce something for current gen. Why would you upgrade now? Sony and MS are already talking next-gen... These will be obsolete soon too. Ill just invest my 270 into an hdmi splitter. Cant record 4k, but what use is there for that anyway atm, cross that bridge when built.
This video could be a lot better:/ I would’ve liked to see more testing and the results of that testing instead of just telling me show me that it’s great:/
