Which Do You Choose in 1991? Phoenix Gold MS-275 vs Rockford Fosgate Punch 150HD vs Orion 275sx

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4 Videos Combined into 1! 2 Videos comparing RF Punch 150HD and Phoenix Gold MS-275, one showing PG MS-275 on Amp Dyno and final video is RF Punch 150 vs Orion 275sx. Classic Old School Amp Tests!
Video Index
0:09 RF Punch 150HD and PG MS-275 Overview
1:03 Exterior of Amps
3:40 Prices
4:14 Internals
7:33 Power Output Tests using O'scope
8:01 RF Punch 150HD Power Output
11:09 PG MS-275 Power Output
15:25 Final Thoughts
16:21 PG MS-275 History
18:47 PG MS-275 Amp Dyno Tests
21:49 RF Punch 150HD vs Orion 275 SX
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@wal2 21 день назад

*Video Index* 0:09 RF Punch 150HD and PG MS-275 Overview 1:03 Exterior of Amps 3:40 Prices 4:14 Internals 7:33 Power Output Tests using O'scope 8:01 RF Punch 150HD Power Output 11:09 PG MS-275 Power Output 15:25 Final Thoughts 16:21 PG MS-275 History 18:47 PG MS-275 Amp Dyno Tests 21:49 RF Punch 150HD vs Orion 275 SX 22:00 Amp Dyno Drag Race 3 Modes of the Amp Dyno Explained: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Q0m6NsB-HHc.html TEST BENCH EQUIPMENT SMD / D'Amore Engineering Amp Dyno: goo.gl/sJTcf7 XS Power LTO Lithium Battery Cells - lddy.no/1ivr6 XS Power D1400 14V AGM Batteries - amzn.to/2BPFCKW XS Power Titan 8 Lithium Battery - lddy.no/1iq28 XS Power PSC60 Charger - amzn.to/2CHGcfs Fluke 1000A AC/DC Clamp Meter: amzn.to/2Rw5WDA Handheld Dyno: amzn.to/2u2EgKV My Favorite Screwdriver Kit: amzn.to/3vijokl _DISCLAIMER: This video and description contains affiliate links, which means that if you purchase from one of the product links, I may receive a small commission. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases_

@BblastedD 24 дня назад

This is so old school that Derek had a full head of hair!

@benryals7475 23 дня назад

As much as I was involved in car stereo for nearly all of the 90s I rarely ever saw Phoenix Gold yet it was one of my favorites for my ever running wish list.

@PHUNNYGUY2 23 дня назад

I’d choose the Phoenix Gold

@ericpearl5874 21 день назад

@@PHUNNYGUY2 Nostalgia

@jonesbrewer4398 23 дня назад

For some reason I wasn't a big fan of Fosgate amps back in the day, I was into PPI and Soundstream but I always loved the heatsink design of the Punch 150. I had a friend that had a Punch 150 powering two Fosgate 15's and two Fosgate 10's and it hammered!! Another great video!!

@pervertedalchemist9944 24 дня назад

Back then, you were the man if you had a Rockford Fosgate amplifier. Pair that with a couple of Cerwin Vega woofers and some fun was about to happen.

@MrMan-ol4ic 24 дня назад

Back in the day, i had Phoenix Gold ZPA .5 i believe it was, black, with the fans, one on each side with the plexiglass down the middle, that amp was a freaking beast. Had it hooked to 2 Sound Stream 15's in the trunk of my 87 Monte LS.

@gjohnson102gj 23 дня назад

Would love to see the Autotek 7150 bts or the LaSounds Hermosa 150s

@popeye2674 20 дней назад

Bought my punch 150 here in Lafayette Louisiana from Ricky Smith audio. Back in 91. Their still open today

@hdbenstereo 23 дня назад

Miss my old amps, ran 2 45w Fosgate Punch for mid highs with 2 Zapco M80's for the subs back in 86-87 hard to beat for staying in the 250 watt and under class.

@3rdaxis649 24 дня назад

Still rockin my MS-2125 and MQ-430:)

@ryanharrington4717 23 дня назад

I choose coustic!

@91CavGT5 23 дня назад

Big D dug this video out of the old school vault!! Still a good video! You have really polished your delivery over the years, but the basis of the channel has stayed the same and that is what a lot of us love! You show us what these amps actually put out vs what they were/are rated at. Thanks Big D!!!

@cjaldrich1 24 дня назад

I’ve had a newer Punch 250A2, a Punch P2502 and a PG ZX450. All were great, but the Phoenix Gold ZX series were such good sounding amps. Personally, back in the day, I would have picked Phoenix Gold every time.

@StonerCreek74 8 дней назад

I've been in the Car Audio Industry since 1988. I remember having 2 PG MS-275 on my highs, and 2 PG MS-2125 on my 8 Pro-Tech 10 inch subs isobaric in my 1989 Honda Accord. I was using a Pioneer Dex-M88 head and Pioneer EQ-6500. I had Pro-Tech waveguides and MB Quart everything else. Custom kick and door panels and fiberglass subwoofer tub and amp racks when fiberglass just started getting used. Good old days!

@scottgibson807 24 дня назад

I remember when the PG amps had the two gold plated bus bars for +/-. Pretty. Still preferred RF though.

@roughboygarage1475 23 дня назад

In 1991? I'd have to go with the PG MS275. Just because that's the one I wanted back then but there were no PG dealers around me. It was a totally different time back then. You really had to run whatever your local shops sold. Especially if you wanted a warranty. Nowadays it's just click- Buy It Now. This newer generation will never understand the struggle!

@robsorgdrager8477 24 дня назад

This is Making me remember the taste of dial up internet.

@jaideshjainarine5114 24 дня назад

The ‘Nail Driver’

@24-7flounderproblem 23 дня назад

That's right 🎉drive nails

@WSKRBSCT 24 дня назад

Phoenix Gold. I wasn't a big Rockford Fosgate guy even when I sold them. I respected what they could do, though.

@hankshobbies 23 дня назад

Phoenix Gold just didn’t have the hit of a Rockford….had a stereo shop and did installs for 19 years

@vishS14 23 дня назад

Ooooohwwwww yeahhh, Multiple 300 ZX owner here. Love your channel man!

@raymo6795 23 дня назад

Love the old school stuff big D, keep em coming my friend

@cm1752 24 дня назад

PG from PDX FTW!

@paulcabinatan2390 23 дня назад

MS-275 all day..still have one and a MS-2125

@kennethh.566 9 дней назад

I was a PG fan back in the mid-late 90's. I've owned M25,M50, MPS-2240, and ZX-450 amps. I liked the way those classic M series amps looked with the white chassis, blue lettering, and bright gold heat sinks. I had the M25 and M50 mounted side by side on the amp rack so they looked like one big amp. All the amps in the M series were designed so they could be placed next to each other for a continuous look.

@ericbachmann8037 24 дня назад

I had A Phoenix Gold M-44 and Rockford Punch 200 back in the mid 90’s. So, I chose both !! LOL

@600wheel 24 дня назад

I miss my OLD Phyoenix Gold amp

@BMW1M 23 дня назад

Love them all. Used the Orion.

@MuvoTX 23 дня назад

+1 for the Phoenix gold... both great amps though. Didnt those punch amps have a really nice bass boost EQ?

@600wheel 24 дня назад

I have a 1999 Volkswagen golf and I’m running a punch 200.2 (The one where you have to go to the backside and flip the chip depending on what you want the crossover to do) in it with a matching punch 8” sub still to this day and it’s still pounds. I love the old sh¡t Rockford FTW!!🤘😎🤘🍺🍺

@z1berzerker 23 дня назад

Been waiting 😌 🙌 years for this

@matthewelliott2213 24 дня назад

In the early 90's, my goal in life was to run the Frankampenstein and Son-of-Frankampenstein with plexi covers...

@jasonnelson6624 24 дня назад

I had the same fantasy but I also wanted to have PG cyclone rotary subwoofer. Which of course never happened I moved on to ppi art water cooled and the ppi flat top sub as my new dream system. Lol

@yonson_racing 24 дня назад

Nice! In 1991 I had the MS-275, I used that thing for well over 10 years before it got stolen...

@ehrenkrause9861 22 дня назад

15:55 seem like the triple Darlington design was just a very small window in the car audio history. I would consider those Phoenix Gold amps during that era probably the best sounding amplifiers I've ever used especially when pushing them right to their limit.

@johnstarks5323 20 дней назад

I concur, USA made, triple darlington was an incredible era. P.G. offered triple Darlington on their flag ship amps all the way to the Xenon series. New units are still in stock & being sold at this time of this post.

@kennethh.566 9 дней назад

I agree...the harder they were pushed it seemed the better they sounded. My MPS-2240 would happily run just about any ohm load north of a dead short and sound good doing it lol.

@ehrenkrause9861 22 дня назад

0:22 damn an old school video for an old school amplifier shootout. Love the vintage reroll

@joshholden8561 23 дня назад

I'd take the Phoenix gold no questions asked

@mattlitchfield221 24 дня назад

Brings back memories!! I had three of the phenix gold amps and the big eq they had!!

@danhorton6182 24 дня назад

Hands down the PG amplifier put out a better looking waveform. I look at these every day, as I do vintage car, audio, and home audio repair. When you were measuring the Rockford, there was a little bit of a distortion at the tips of the wave form, I thought it was probably just an artifact of the scope you were using. But then you put the Phoenix Gold on and then the wave form looked absolutely perfect. Would that artifact be audible? Probably not, but for this reason, I would pick the Phoenix gold every time at least for the mid and treble. For subwoofers it wouldn’t matter really.

@marksmusicobsession 20 дней назад

Linear Power were the best amps of that era period.

@jjthomas9656 11 дней назад

I agree,I started installing professional in 1990 for a RF dealer,I was running 2 linear 2202,2 952,swapped in 2 punch 150,2 punch 45....I swapped back in a week😂wasnt even close

@SDS-1 24 дня назад

Classic video compilation ❤

@RiddledEnigma93 21 день назад

I like Phoenix Gold, but after owning a few RF amps the prime series is pure utter shit, the Punch 60 was another story it was a beast, so RF as long as it aint prime!~ Hooked up a Punch 60 in Tri-Mode to a pair of MTX 10in in separate boxes with a Orion 15in on the bridged channel for a old friend back in the 90s.

@TheKlixer 23 дня назад

That’s a toss up. As an RF enthusiast my heart says RF. That said having actually seen and heard both of these in action my hands would be reaching for the PG. They really were ahead of their time. Great video, thanks for the trip back in time.

@garageman327327 24 дня назад

I had both. My perception at the time was that the Punch was much better as a sub amp and the MS275 made a better amp for mids and highs. I recall being very disappointed in the MS275 when trying to use it as a sub amp but it still made for a great SQ amp.

@hizsunhisatake6156 23 дня назад

The PG Route 66 and Outlaw where miles ahead of Orion and Fosgate back in the early 90s

@JasonWW2000 23 дня назад

@@hizsunhisatake6156Where they? They were just regular PG amps in a new heatsink.

@505Tempest 23 дня назад

Haven’t watched yet but I’d pick the Phoenix Gold MS275

@jmcg7906 23 дня назад

I would dream of having the phoenix gold amp.

@bigdogbrodavepresents6178 23 дня назад

I remember pulling several Rockford Fosgate amps and swapping in Phoenix Gold amps. I did what the owners wanted pretty much, no complaints BUT, as them amps go, RF kinda had an edge in sound thanks to KNOBS. BUT.... To be honest them customers kinda wanted NO KNOBS. They were searching for the illusive SOUND QUALITY in an Automotive environment. Only so much SQ in a CAR I say. Seemed at the time to be a DOWNGRADE but I got paid. I remember PG being one of them companies that really took market share from the other established brands at a TIME. Customers were looking for something more... EVERYTHING was GOLD PLATED.... MOBILE Gold Plating companies... LOL... I REMEMBER... BDBD/2024

@xsivemotorsports 24 дня назад

@0:25 I haven't even seen what happens but back then we where so brand biased, the shop I went to sold 4 brands, the two other shops in my town both sold 4 other brans..... it was like being in a gang, we wouldn't get near the other guys let a lone run their gear. My Bias has me wanting RF to loose & PG to win (No dirty delete from me I'll take it like a mane if I'm wrong"

@20smgreen 24 дня назад

Love those PG MS amps. I've got 2 MS amps, both need recapped. Aside from that, they're both 9.9/10 in condition and Grey in color. MS275 & MS2125

@bayramoglumurathan925 24 дня назад

Thanks.

@csj9619 24 дня назад

"Hybrid design" on the RF PUNCH HD series refers to the electronic components being both surface mount and through-hole types. The owner's manual shows a "typical" system layout, consisting of (4) 6.5" component sets and (4) 12" woofers, all powered from a single PUNCH 30 stereo amp. I get a laugh out of that picture every time.

@Dingleberry1856 23 дня назад

Why is it funny?

@johnstarks5323 20 дней назад

I like PG on mids and highs R.F. on subs, but I did hear a M100 on subs & was impressive. (bridge @ 2 ohms load) on USA made Lanzar DC 15"

@thedraftdoctor1 24 дня назад

Phoenix for sure

@r3d-1truth17 23 дня назад

Hey Mr Williston, great to see you keep dropping content and keep our eyes and ears open for more of your amazing work. I have asked many questions and put plenty of feedback on your videos, this is yet another backseat driver opinion again (smh lol). You should do a “Derek’s Degree” segment and explain more into some of the complexities of the things you do. I wanted to know the physics or reason for loading down channels on amps when testing. Why do you need to? To relate what happens if you don’t load them up. Also, when you test multi-channel amps, your fluke readings (5channel amp reference) are unavailable. Lastly- because of those gigantic amp draw readings, how can a person put an amp rated over 800watts into a car w/o having a 300+ amp alternator? But, keep up all your amazing and awesome work- you always seem to keep a plethora of old school information- I would be interested to know if you can locate any from 7/12/98 USAC competition in Milwaukee? I took 2nd place & would love to go back and see the results or even some photos again. Cheers

@JasonWW2000 23 дня назад

Are you just making suggestions or do you really want answers to those questions?

@r3d-1truth17 22 дня назад

@@JasonWW2000 this is combination of both…I think there is a lot of information that goes over my head, and I can only assume there may be many other who sit in the same shoes, but just don’t take time to ask. I think it’s up to people like us, me & you @JasonWW2000, who put ourselves out there to ask questions without fear of feeling threatened or foolish. Cheers mate!

@JasonWW2000 22 дня назад

@@r3d-1truth17 About loading channels: A car amplifier has a power supply section and an output section. You want to put a load on each output section channel so that the power supply side is also loaded down. For instance, if you have 4 channels but only load down and test two of them, there's plenty of reserve power in the power supply section so the two tested channels may read higher than they should. Unscrupulous companies may use this technique to boost their power ratings. Loading all channels puts the power supply section under full load so you get a more real world power rating.

@JasonWW2000 22 дня назад

@@r3d-1truth17 About the power draw of the amplifiers from the vehicle: There are several factors your not considering. First, the battery is the main energy storage device. Typically an amplifier will draw instant power from it and then the alternator will kick in a second later and start refilling the battery. Second, the amp dyno is receiving a full volume test tone. That's very different to music. With music, the volume varies and the bass (which uses the highest amount of power) surges. It's usually a quick burst of bass energy with gaps in-between. The bass amp draws power in bursts while the alternator is recharging the battery at a steady rate. Third, the frequency of bass also plays a role. Lets say you have a 1 ohm sub in a ported box tuned to 30hz. Bass notes around 27-33hz are going to see an impedance around 1.3 to 3 ohms (the lowest ohms). So these frequencies draw a lot of power from the amp. A bass note of 45hz might be around 15 to 20 ohms and draw very little power from the amp. You can put a DC clamp meter on your amp an see the draw change with frequency. So the song your playing can have a big effect. So all this combined means your not drawing as much power as you think you are. Maybe 1/4 to 1/3 of what you thought when cranked full blast. This is why most folks say a stock electrical system (80A-100A alternator) can handle a 1,500 watt amp.

@rexxx927 22 дня назад

Love my DSM 200 and 4080

@stevemccauley5734 23 дня назад

The Orion showed who always had the muscle & in my opinion sounded better than both other brands. RF always sounded boomy to me because of the bass equalization he designed into them. Still though, you’ve gotta respect Jim Fosgate & what he did for car audio. I bet that Orion was a hot mofo after that low impedance test lol

@videobyallen 24 дня назад

Given the choice id go with the orion

@raymo6795 23 дня назад

...Anyone ever hear of "Poweramper", ?made in FLA..How about 'Chronic". These were eBay finds, both seem like exceptional quality, I can find no info on either

@jameslucas3161 24 дня назад

Those price conversions are from 1992 to 2010 so the amps are probably worth even more now, relatively speaking!

@JasonWW2000 23 дня назад

The conversion doesn't show worth, it shows equivalent value.

@warpedhifi1 23 дня назад

Been a Rockford fan forever, so I would go with them still. Over the years, owned zero Phoenix Gold's, one Orion, 1 RF Power 1000, 3 Power 650, 4 Power 300 and one Punch 150HD. I think I like Rockford!

@fullerreflectionsllc1103 11 дней назад

In 92 i would go with phoenix gold my first big amp was a phoenix gold that weighed like 60lbs had huge handles and i think it was 5 channel it also had like 4 fans on it

@drewscruis 24 дня назад

I had a MS275 and that thing slammed.

@joshholden8561 23 дня назад

I expected about 100 more watts from the Phoenix gold

@saschacubexyz 24 дня назад

Yeeeaaah....best old buddys🤘🤘🤘

@timpindell8178 24 дня назад

Phoenix Gold.

@nunyabizznizz7326 24 дня назад

all 3 are good amps....👍👍

@johnstarks5323 20 дней назад

Is it me, I kinda prefer the old school era of car audio amps were it was only like a dozen flagship brands, that were hard to obtain. now days the market is oversaturated with hundreds of amp brands. some one can pull up on you, blow you out the water with a full bridge, brazilian amp system. that was a tenth, the price of a high end vintage system.

@kennethh.566 9 дней назад

Back in the day most of the high-end car audio gear was made by bespoke brands in the USA by small passionate companies. Today many of the old school brand names are still around but they've been bought out by a few umbrella companies that just use the old brand names to sell "mediocre at best" mass market Chinese electronics.

@jeezy5270 23 дня назад

Question Big D , are the replacement caps same quality of the original? Just wondering if using lesser grade caps or parts would affect that sweet ol school sound?

@MrBonger88 23 дня назад

It was always RF for me and my friends back then but I’ve honestly never heard the Phoenix

@raymo6795 23 дня назад

Funny that the RF looks like it is intended to be mounted to the rear deck, upside down, with sink fins downwards. When I installed as a youth, we were taught that sink fins should be mounted upwards because heat rises

@joshholden8561 23 дня назад

I had the Phoenix gold sapphire big powerful amps around this pg model I believe sapphire was after ms series

@JohnWalsh2019 23 дня назад

Big D why so sad sounding? Hope you are doing okay brother!

@courier11sec 24 дня назад

What was your getting method back when you filmed this?

@raymo6795 23 дня назад

I never owned a PG back in the day, but I have an XS 6600 , and an XS 4300 series, probably from the mid late 90s, a 6 channel and a 4 channel. Both are noisy as hell. So I sent them to be repaired, to 2 different technicians, and both told me that there is nothing wrong with them...but these amps suck, real noisy. I argued with both techs and they said there is nothing wrong with them and implied that I am nuts..(anyone recommend a good technician to repair these amps?). I also have had (and have) many Rockford Fosgates. I never had a problem with them. RFs always seemed crude, but well built and always performed above rated.

@joshholden8561 15 дней назад

Bid D have u heard of the Phoenix gold sapphire series ?

@paulkoski8759 24 дня назад

Were did you get that meter plz let me know I can run that on my dash

@alanstant9356 23 дня назад

It would be hard to choose because they are all so close in power, Big D.

@joecool7165 24 дня назад

I have to wonder about the crunch 50 SHC that was the same time. Period. They were rated at 490 W what the max output was. I wonder if they would compete the cleanest amplifier ever made

@robsorgdrager8477 24 дня назад

I remember the early crunch V-drive amps. I can't remember the build house but it was normally a very high end SQ audio build house...ADS I think, regardless those old crunch amps were really really good.

@joecool7165 23 дня назад

I always ran Atomic 1. 12 was all I needed 2. 12 you only gain three SPL I used to run just one used to run the amplifier mono 10 it was plenty of sound back in the day to have 100 W of power and put out that kind of sound was incredible

@joecool7165 23 дня назад

Big T I’ve followed you a long time. I love what you do. It’s funny now I use these for tweeters. They used to be my sub apps.

@dlastmohican71 23 дня назад

@@robsorgdrager8477zed audio builds

@24-7flounderproblem 23 дня назад

Zed Audio 👍

@gilbertw5370 23 дня назад

This is a really old video that was re posted??

@bamafan-in-OZ 24 дня назад

Wow how's the price of the MPH-6300, $23,500 in 1991 or roughly $54,000 today!

@flashbacks7892 23 дня назад

Please dyno and sq test, Butler Audio Tube Driver Blue vacuum amplifiers, wish someone can send BigDWiz a TBD amp so he can test it, would love to see it tested, please make it happen, thanks.

@jessieallen4435 23 дня назад

I know in 92 my Linear Power 5002q was over a grand and my 2202 was over 500

@FrankStPeter 22 дня назад

Punch 150 and the punch 75 we used to run at 1 ohm all day

@ricktroxell6448 17 дней назад

I want to see the old black orion 800 watt against somethin I had one rebuilt 2 times the first didn't go to well but I loved that amp it got stolen from me I want to know what it would do I pushed a solo Barack L7 12 with it it beat that thing like a war drum

@dre_day_ 23 дня назад

Phoenix Gold

@z1berzerker 24 дня назад

Molex wasn't the best... 🤔

@markwentz8332 24 дня назад

would this be considered old school oldschoolstereo?😁

@csj9619 24 дня назад

yessiree! old school or the "golden age" of American made car audio.

@midnight-xpress1136 23 дня назад

How about YES!

@fabelgamer7410 24 дня назад

Why so serious today? Hope all is well with you.

@sergiobisonte 24 дня назад

this is an old video..

@danielknepper6884 24 дня назад

Sounds like he smoked a bowl before he ran the video

@JasonWW2000 23 дня назад

The first half of this video is from 2011. He had a different speaking style and video editing style.

@rickietatum4319 23 дня назад

watching this at 1.25X to stop me falling asleep.

@andrewkelly1225 23 дня назад

All I could afford was the Crutchfeild branded Precision Power.

@wal2 15 дней назад

Those were sleeper amps for sure!

@samuelgonzales3824 21 день назад

I did a Camaro Z28 with 2 RF 150s and 2 15s Rockfords Pros . That system would flap your clothes standing outside the car ..😮

@johnmedrano9782 24 дня назад

it may be your garage, but it is a stereo amplifier scientific laboratory

@robtremble2277 24 дня назад

150hd all day

@Gotyoulooking 23 дня назад

Did I read that right @ 17:09 , MPH-6300 450-Watt Power Amp package deal for only $23,500 !!!!!!!!!!!! jesus, and people complain about the watts per dollar today lol.

@MrXjoeharperx 23 дня назад

Amplifiers are so cheap now. Back when this amp came out it was the equivalent of a months pay and then some. 1000 watt subs came out a coiple years later, but no one could afford to buy the amps to push them.

@BobBasshead 23 дня назад

@@MrXjoeharperx Amps are "cheep" now days because most high output amps are class D where as the old school amps most of them were class AB which by circuit design require more "parts"

@JasonWW2000 23 дня назад

The MPH-6300 was a special, limited production item. I'm not sure they actually sold any. I think it was mostly a show piece, flagship offering to get attention. A publicity piece.

@JasonWW2000 23 дня назад

@@BobBassheadThe cost difference has nothing to do with what class the output section is. It's mostly due to the semiconductors. Back in the 90 the mosfets/transistors were very expensive and could not handle much power. Today you can get a FET that can handle 100A of current and costs $1.50. Plus all the other semiconductor chips can do more functions and cost pennies.

@wal2 15 дней назад

Yes it was never a production amp though and was listed once for over $100k if I recall correctly. We discussed it with Larry Frederick over on 12V Talk

@marckendrick3163 23 дня назад

Pg.....

@jeffreyabercrombie 23 дня назад

Don’t get that with class d

@19derrick77 23 дня назад

Am I the only one that thinks this sounds closer to normal at 1.25X playback speed?

@BobBasshead 23 дня назад

Yup! Same here.

@91CavGT5 23 дня назад

This has to be one of Derek’s old videos that he recorded several years ago and just never put up here on RU-vid. The cadence of his voice, the tone of his voice, the choice in words, and the test procedures all point to this being an old video.