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Which editor/IDE does Bisqwit use? Answers & some history. 

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The most frequently asked question in my channel’s comments is which editor/IDE I use. This video answers that question and provides some history.
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@Bisqwit
@Bisqwit 4 года назад
The Github repositories for That Editor and That Terminal can be found at: github.com/bisqwit?tab=repositories Topi’s RU-vid channel (seems abandoned) is here: ru-vid.com Nowadays he works as a technical lead at SoC department in Nokia.
@wilfridtaylor
@wilfridtaylor 4 года назад
I am looking forward to the release of That Shell and That Programming language :D
@BichaelStevens
@BichaelStevens 4 года назад
@@wilfridtaylor And also That Linux with ThatDE
@MirekFe
@MirekFe 4 года назад
@@BichaelStevens That, would be awesome.
@greatsaid5271
@greatsaid5271 4 года назад
+ what editor are you using? - THAT EDITOR! + nevermind, what terminal are you using? - THAT TERMINAL!
@90hijacked
@90hijacked 4 года назад
@Pavel Sudakov quickly, trademark BND ( Bisqwit Not Dos ) before he does! # GNU reference
@SimGunther
@SimGunther 4 года назад
And That Browser!
@PantsYT
@PantsYT 4 года назад
That Shell
@Timo4eus
@Timo4eus 4 года назад
When trying to find suitable editor: - Me: google, read reviews, install and try. - Bisqwit: writes his own editor.
@l3p3
@l3p3 4 года назад
He tried before. If I haven't found one (which is vscode), I would maybe have done the same.
@kenan2386
@kenan2386 3 года назад
i am the Guy that changes ides all Time Sometimes sublime sometimes vscode sometimes vim idk i use everything
@kittyfangz5262
@kittyfangz5262 3 года назад
emacs with vim keybindings is the best editor i think
@marcspecter
@marcspecter 4 года назад
If I ever become an evil overlord with a secret base, I will get Bisqwit to be the voice of the computer that controls the building.
@hiphoplata2000
@hiphoplata2000 2 года назад
and danooct1 for the second one
@NinjaRunningWild
@NinjaRunningWild Год назад
He sounds _very similar_ to Dr Sbaitso, a digital therapist that came with Sound Blaster Pro sound cards in the early 90s. Compare & you'll hear the resemblance.
@M1stersupersonic8
@M1stersupersonic8 4 года назад
"That" Editor and "That" Terminal are the best names for software. Nearly died laughing!
@audiencebigg6302
@audiencebigg6302 4 года назад
That webcam footage of you from the year 2000 is awesome! Somehow feels like an old school nostalgia for me, back when I started using computers when I was a kid
@MoeZarella
@MoeZarella 4 года назад
The "Creating a terminal" series was/is one of the best things on your channel. More coding livestreams please!
@edusantino6317
@edusantino6317 4 года назад
Who stops the video just to see the complexity of Bisqwit codes? Merry Christmas Bisqwit!!
@rollingrock3480
@rollingrock3480 4 года назад
*Merry Christmas, Bisqwit!*
@erikthegodeatingpenguin2335
@erikthegodeatingpenguin2335 4 года назад
0:10 Hey that's me lol also thanks for answering
@a1k0n
@a1k0n 4 года назад
I was a constant user of qedit for C and assembler programming in the 90s. When I made the switch to Linux, I also gravitated toward joe initially, but eventually learned to get really good at vim. I spent a bit of time experimenting with emacs and lisp and scheme but now I'm back to good ol' vim. I can't even remember how to use qedit nowadays.
@MakotoIchinose
@MakotoIchinose 4 года назад
Today I learned that EDIT, a general purpose text editor in MS-DOS, is just a stripped down QBasic editor. :O
@oncle_dan
@oncle_dan 4 года назад
11:56 "The only remaining choice for me was to create my own editor."........ of course. of course.. why would you have any other option you freaking master of programming? ^^
@Darksoulmaster
@Darksoulmaster 4 года назад
I came here for the main anwser, but the story was so interesting I couldn't skip it!
@NOCTUMSEMPRA
@NOCTUMSEMPRA 4 года назад
Man, you are definitely a legend for me. I enjoyed this video so much.
@GodofWar1515
@GodofWar1515 4 года назад
Oh man QBasic is my childhood. And great video!
@MKVideoful
@MKVideoful 4 года назад
THAT EDITOR!
@Decco6306
@Decco6306 4 года назад
This is lovely Thank you so much for this content, we dont see much of this on youtube any more
@BrandNewByxor
@BrandNewByxor 4 года назад
Every time you announce "that editor" it trips me out and I think somebody's about to run up my stairs LOL
@broepi
@broepi 3 года назад
holy sh** I had exactly that same creepy impression. every time I paused the vid cause it distracted me so hard xD
@The242511
@The242511 4 года назад
Wow you finally put it for everyone to be clear
@horaizonsan
@horaizonsan 4 года назад
When he said "That Editor" and "That Terminal" I felt that
@MultiRelyt
@MultiRelyt 4 года назад
Thank you Google
@kahnfatman
@kahnfatman 3 года назад
A big shout out to FRONT END developers - write THAT BROWSER!
@vapourmile
@vapourmile 4 года назад
Wow, that answered a lot of questions. Including why it looks like your programming is so perfect. :)
@st0rm433
@st0rm433 4 года назад
I love *that editor*
@TheMorc
@TheMorc 4 года назад
It's funny that this video was being made since 2017 :D
@Bisqwit
@Bisqwit 4 года назад
Yeah. So is the case (long production time with long delays) for nearly every video I make.
@farukarslan2000
@farukarslan2000 4 года назад
THAT VIDEO! is really cool :)
@roku1892
@roku1892 3 года назад
as a 12 years old kid and a backend dev i watch this video so many times to understand. This channel is so cool. God bless you, Mr. Bisqwit
@redemptusrenatus5336
@redemptusrenatus5336 4 года назад
Ah the days of the Borland Turbo C++ Editor.. before Vi/Vim, that was my editor of choice. After I installed Slackware Linux, I did try emacs up until I found Vim and I've used Vim ever since. Never liked Joe or any of the other editors. Can't say I really tried them once I found my spirit-editor in Vim :P
@roygalaasen
@roygalaasen 4 года назад
Horrors of VI. I’d rather use Joe, but that is probably because it is closer to any other editor I used. I somehow never remembered to go into edit mode in Vi. The worst I used was edlin. (But now we are talking Microsoft.)
@redemptusrenatus5336
@redemptusrenatus5336 4 года назад
@@roygalaasen I can definitely see using something because it's familiar. It was the unnecessarily complex and obtuse nature of Vim that was immediately familiar to me as I could see myself in it ;) Then I also learned to use ed on purpose which I'm sure most people who don't have to, never would.
@TheBodgybrothers
@TheBodgybrothers 4 года назад
The reason you still use vim is that you never worked out how to exit
@redemptusrenatus5336
@redemptusrenatus5336 4 года назад
@@TheBodgybrothers Cute, but no. Vim doesn't try to be everything unlike Emacs which wants to be everything, including your default shell.
@georgH
@georgH 4 года назад
@@redemptusrenatus5336 some users so want that. Emacs doesn't want anything. Emacs user since 2000, never replaced my terminal or email for me, it's up to you to go that path. The beauty is, you can.
@clodgozon3968
@clodgozon3968 4 года назад
I'd love to live in those years when BASIC was popular...
@barbudoru
@barbudoru 4 года назад
I still use CTRL+Insert, Shift+Insert and Shift+Delete in Windows 10 because they are easier to type than the regular cut-copy-paste commands when you use the Dvorak layout.
@jaythomas3180
@jaythomas3180 4 года назад
No problem using ctr+x/c/v with Colemak. Vim's default direction keys on the other hand...
@xthebumpx
@xthebumpx 4 года назад
Yes! I found out the same thing. My biggest complaint about Dvorak is that I can't copy/paste with one hand (and that f is in a bad spot for my short fingers). For some reason though when copying from a spreadsheet preview in Outlook ctrl-insert doesn't work to copy.
@jumhig
@jumhig 4 года назад
Having just implemented support for"legacy" Ctrl-Insert etc in an application, I've realized that the main difference is that Ctrl_X scheme is designed for the left hand, while Ctrl-Insert scheme is designed for the right hand.
@MrKalach
@MrKalach 4 года назад
that IDE chronology story is same as my story, except own editor :D (I had one own "editor", built with turbo pascal vision, and I never used it in the wild) mutta sä oot kova mies!
@frankperdue6585
@frankperdue6585 4 года назад
Merry Christmas to Bisqwit !!!
@JeremyNasmith
@JeremyNasmith 2 года назад
QBasic and Turbo Pascal. I miss those days.
@matthewabbott588
@matthewabbott588 2 года назад
I have a project for you. write a shell in asm using templates so as all arguments and returns are not typed. you will have too write your own oop subsystem in asm to acheive this but the end result is the beginning of an undetectable root kit. keep up the great work and thanx for the php paper. I truly hated the idea of learning such a scripty language. your paper has made it so much easier.
@Bisqwit
@Bisqwit 2 года назад
“in asm - using templates - not typed” I think you may have a misunderstanding or two somewhere. Thanks for the feedback. (I also received your e-mails.) Your other comment was deleted by RU-vid for some reason. See ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PVlobDyTqeY.html
@Xilefian
@Xilefian 4 года назад
I use a plethora of IDEs and tools, and I'm always hitting the wrong shortcut key for the wrong editor at some point...It's usually the build/run/debug/step shortcuts.
@robin_be
@robin_be 4 года назад
I wish IDEs/editors today had the ability to select from a great choice of bitmap fonts with all kinds of sizes... it's even difficult to find ones that just support bitmap fonts at all :( anti-aliased fonts look blurry to me so I prefer bitmap fonts (or fonts that look great aliased)
@birdbrid9391
@birdbrid9391 4 года назад
do you know about this? int10h.org/ you can get ttf versions of old text mode fonts in 256 character set (Px437), and extended set (PxPlus) i have the same issue that i find antialiased fonts blurry, and prefer aliased bitmap text. here's a screenshot of my sublime using PxPlus TandyNew TV size 6: i.imgur.com/JOHOJZU.png and here's the fonts i settled with after trying them all: i.imgur.com/UzzplU0.png one for small, medium and large size
@yash1152
@yash1152 2 года назад
@@birdbrid9391 it's great that u replied with ur input. it's nice to see ppl doing nice peaceful discussions in the comment section of this video (:
@luisz0339
@luisz0339 4 года назад
We need to transform THAT EDITOR into THE EDITOR
@iso-c
@iso-c 4 года назад
Kiitos videoista ja rauhallista joulunaikaa!
@MyVitros
@MyVitros 4 года назад
You’re awesome bisqwit! I love your content and you have an awesome accent when speaking English.
@dillon4321
@dillon4321 4 года назад
Very interesting. Speaking of editing and typing, do you have any keyboard preferences? Such as those ergonomically shaped ones? Any favourite mechanical keyboard switch? I wanted to upgrade my $20 membrane keyboard recently and my research has brought me deep into the world of mechanical keyboards...
@Bisqwit
@Bisqwit 4 года назад
I pretty much just use whichever keyboard is in front of me, as long as the keyboard _layout_ is not insane.
@vesacksi
@vesacksi Год назад
What a story that was, beatiful
@RahulJain-wr6kx
@RahulJain-wr6kx 4 года назад
You are awesome man 👍 I loved the work THAT EDitOR
@gnuemacs1166
@gnuemacs1166 4 года назад
Lovely video thank you I started on a zx spectrum, then Borland, then Linux etc
@franciskapsowe9183
@franciskapsowe9183 4 года назад
This guy must be Phineas and Ferb's Dr. Doofenshmirtz(The Evil Scientist)
@TheBodgybrothers
@TheBodgybrothers 4 года назад
Qbasic for the win
@alejandroalzatesanchez
@alejandroalzatesanchez 3 года назад
That
@tusharagarwal5306
@tusharagarwal5306 2 года назад
Kids: use Sublime Text Men: use VS Code Legends: use Notepad GigaChads: make their own code editor.
@leyria
@leyria 4 года назад
I use Code blocks with a personalized theme, my friends say I live in the past xD And that I should use VS code or VS studio. But I still prefer CB ^^ Take it fast, direct and simple.
@GAURAVSINGH-mb3bk
@GAURAVSINGH-mb3bk 4 года назад
Hi Joel Yliluoma ( Bisqwit) . How many programming languages do you know and use ? Have you tried Rust programming language? Please share your thoughts. I am a huge fan of your programming videos and your programing skills.
@zzador
@zzador 4 года назад
It seems we both have nearly the same programming language history. Learned BASIC under MSDOS at the beginning of the 90ties. Then switched to TurboPascal, later BorlandPascal and from there to Turbo C++ 2.0 and from there to Borland C++ 3.1...What a journey. XD
@haroldmcbroom7807
@haroldmcbroom7807 4 года назад
Happy Holidays, Bisqwit :)
@internationalizationist
@internationalizationist 4 года назад
Very cool, thanks! I’m writing my own text editor, with an eye on VIM and a design similar to 4coder. What for? Because we are programmers and must make tools with which we have to work for ourselves. If you want to do something well - do it yourself! (: PS: Привіт з України!
@michaeljordon8298
@michaeljordon8298 4 года назад
nobody cares where you are from
@javidfarhan1675
@javidfarhan1675 3 года назад
Using a text editor to make a text editor. Seems redundant , but the feeling of using something you made for yourself is awesome!
@shelletonianhuman
@shelletonianhuman 4 года назад
Hyvää huomenta.
@juaneduardocasillacamarill8383
@juaneduardocasillacamarill8383 4 года назад
Bisqwit your'e awesome!
@not_the_dice
@not_the_dice 4 года назад
Bisqwit, which version Debian you use? And also you, as an experienced programmer, what you need to learn before any programming language?
@Bisqwit
@Bisqwit 4 года назад
I use the rolling “testing” branch of Debian, with some pulls from unstable/experimental if needed. For learning a programming language it depends how similar or dissimilar it is to languages I already know. A reference manual is usually the most important thing, followed by example code.
@yash1152
@yash1152 2 года назад
@@Bisqwit thanks for answering
@kahnfatman
@kahnfatman 3 года назад
Borland Pascal was my first introduction to programming. Big shout out to my brother!
@sangamshrestha143
@sangamshrestha143 4 года назад
That was that Editor.
@Loke6074
@Loke6074 4 года назад
Nice vid. Fun with some background.
@servercrux8070
@servercrux8070 4 года назад
Really interesting video... and liked the Background voice
@punboleh7081
@punboleh7081 Год назад
Hej, we started out similarly :) GWBasic, QBasic, Turbo Pascal, Borland Pascal, ..... I've spent a few years with OS/2 before switching to Linux, though.
@dharmang
@dharmang 4 года назад
I used turboc 3 years ago and it was fricking good. Srsly and also the debug is so simple and effective :D
@binaryflawgic5713
@binaryflawgic5713 4 года назад
Maybe I'm seeing things because I want to see them, but Visual Studio Code uses Ctrl+K by default as a modifier key (?) that waits for another press afterwards. Kind of like Emacs's default Ctrl+X.
@thomasgustafsson7692
@thomasgustafsson7692 4 года назад
Instead of writing 8700 lines of configuration files I have written 8700 lines of C++ code to form my editor. Named exactly that, my editor2 (first iteration was not good), i.e., me2. My muscle memory is emacs key bindings. Quite nice to have one binary, no configuration files, and it just works as expected out of the box. Every time. On every computer.
@AiOinc1
@AiOinc1 4 года назад
9:50 Graphics cards and computers were plenty fast, and if they weren't fast enough plenty of companies sold accelerators to speed up graphics operations, mainly for CAD. Computers weren't slow, X Window and the Linux kernal were just beyond inefficient and rendered machines they were on to be completely useless well into the Pentium III era.
@yash1152
@yash1152 2 года назад
have they become efficient today?
@tissuepaper9962
@tissuepaper9962 4 года назад
QBasic was my first programming language in like 2008.
@Bisqwit
@Bisqwit 4 года назад
Pretty late, considering that DOS had not been a thing for several years then! Thanks for sharing.
@tissuepaper9962
@tissuepaper9962 4 года назад
@@Bisqwit Yeah I was 6 and I was using a really chintzy little Windows XP laptop. I don't really know how I found QBasic, but I found a textbook for it online and just used it.
@brownpaintYT
@brownpaintYT 2 года назад
Thanks soo much
@jockey101
@jockey101 4 года назад
What's the color scheme he's using?
@denizo9263
@denizo9263 4 года назад
*_THAT EDITOR_*
@grappydingus
@grappydingus 4 года назад
GWBASIC is the best editor/interpreter, you convinced me, thank you! :D
@marksmod
@marksmod 4 года назад
3:21 holy shit
@shmuel-k
@shmuel-k 4 года назад
חג חנוכה שמח!
@RamLaska
@RamLaska 4 года назад
1:23 I can only imagine how jarring 80s screen/BASIC editors are to modern viewers. It's completely unlike how any modern editor works. I remember in the very early 90s seeing kids in high school typing out their papers as a huge basic file with tons of PRINT statements (which were redirected to the printer). That's the only text editor a really basic 80s computer had, out of the box! (Yeah, and no word wrap, so type it right the first time! ;)
@higor129
@higor129 4 года назад
Joe was my editor of choice in high school.
@williampattison6628
@williampattison6628 4 года назад
Please start some Udemy courses from beginner to advanced C++. I’m sure a lot of people would be interested. You seem to know more than a lot of other people that teach C++.
@lincolnsand5127
@lincolnsand5127 4 года назад
I don't think video format is good at all for advanced programming knowledge. There are many good C++ programming books already out there on advanced C++. Also. Why udemy? Udemy is quite bad imo
@zakariyaahmed8077
@zakariyaahmed8077 3 года назад
You're a legend
@KishoreG2396
@KishoreG2396 4 года назад
I have tried many editors, including emacs and Jed. But in the end, I always somehow end up coming back to Joe.
@kaiserrundfunk-jonacast
@kaiserrundfunk-jonacast Год назад
a alternative to joe is fte or efte for run in linux, mingw or cygwin.
@ricardo.mazeto
@ricardo.mazeto 4 года назад
Basic was my 1st programming language. A Basic tutorial would be welcome. 😁
@satan2k
@satan2k 4 года назад
As my skills improved over the years, I feel more comfortable with the least amount of disturbing visual elements. I went the opposite way, I started with VC++ 6 (around 2001), went to codeblocks, then notepad ++ (/geany) to end up with vim. Lately at the job (for shell / perl / scripting) and for my personal C++ project at home, I stick with vim inside BSPWM :-) It's a breeze when you have a long session of typing and don't want to leave your keyboard to use your mouse. It's also a lot more comfortable for programming on a laptop, but that's my personal opinion.
@hannahcrawford9198
@hannahcrawford9198 4 года назад
How did you record the DOS sections of the video? It's too sharp to be a recording of an actual CRT but I've never seen a CRT shader look that good.
@Bisqwit
@Bisqwit 4 года назад
I wrote my own CRT filter for this video.
@hannahcrawford9198
@hannahcrawford9198 4 года назад
@@Bisqwit that's awesome it looks great!
@Bisqwit
@Bisqwit 3 года назад
Thank you! I have now published the source code of the filter. github.com/bisqwit/crt-filter
@teasauce3608
@teasauce3608 3 года назад
I have a tip for you: When uploading a video, make sure to tell what text editor you use, so people will know! :D
@Bisqwit
@Bisqwit 3 года назад
Thanks! However, the RU-vid algorithm likes more interactions (likes, comments and the like), and it results in more views. So it’s better if I don’t outright answer all anticipated questions.
@000adrianelpiola000
@000adrianelpiola000 4 года назад
Music used in this video? I love MIDI ports.
@boggeshzahim3713
@boggeshzahim3713 4 года назад
Bro the audio has some weird stereo panning when you talk. The sound is mostly on the left side and jiggles between the ears...
@Sukigu
@Sukigu 4 года назад
I noticed this effect too, even though my ears adjusted to it during the video and I eventually stopped noticing it. It seemed like both my eardrums were being alternately "stimulated" at a high frequency.
@Bisqwit
@Bisqwit 4 года назад
I don’t know for sure what could have caused that. I did use a stereo microphone and I spoke relatively close to the microphone albeit at an angle, meaning that any adjustments in my position would have been heard. Maybe the soft limiter filter somehow amplified these differences.
@Hwyadylaw
@Hwyadylaw 4 года назад
@@Bisqwit Just go with mono for your voice, there's no need for stereo.
@KishoreG2396
@KishoreG2396 4 года назад
What is the name of the song at 12:00
@Bisqwit
@Bisqwit 4 года назад
THEM4_2
@KishoreG2396
@KishoreG2396 4 года назад
@@Bisqwit I thought you were just joking, but surprisingly, I actually found it by typing that into google: m.soundcloud.com/bisqwit/them4-2
@bibekkoirala2517
@bibekkoirala2517 4 года назад
Cool video, btw which editor do you use?
@Bisqwit
@Bisqwit 4 года назад
Answered in ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZMBQmhO8KqI.html
@scifu7e91
@scifu7e91 4 года назад
Interesting 👍🏼😮 I wish you nice and happy Christmas days 🎄🎁☕🎊 ;)
@vrman4600
@vrman4600 4 года назад
From where did you learn to program? You are so impressive
@Bisqwit
@Bisqwit 4 года назад
The right question is not “where”, but “when”. The answer is: 25 years.
@vrman4600
@vrman4600 4 года назад
@@Bisqwit books ? the name of the books you learned from ? i know it take years to do this but i really tried to find where i can learn this kinda of stuff
@Bisqwit
@Bisqwit 4 года назад
If I answered and told you (hypothetically) that I learned from a book called "Ohjelmoinnin perusteet", do you suppose that answer would be helpful to you?
@vrman4600
@vrman4600 4 года назад
Bisqwit the name of the book is programming basics? That wasn’t helpful at all😕
@Bisqwit
@Bisqwit 4 года назад
Would it help you if I told you it was written by Petteri Järvinen and published by Pagina? And oh, it was in Finnish language? Do you see the problem now with your question and why I answered like I did?
@kamiien887
@kamiien887 4 года назад
What ide are you using? JOE
@alejandroalzatesanchez
@alejandroalzatesanchez 3 года назад
The hard part compiling without clver tools like gcc.
@luckylove72
@luckylove72 4 года назад
You should have playlist just for "What editor I use"
@magjandighital_craft6636
@magjandighital_craft6636 3 года назад
the guy live in 90 years. he don't know about modern IDE. But He is truly a Programmer ;)))
@tbbw
@tbbw 4 года назад
So... In % how much of your time using vim was spent on trying to exit it without killing the process?
@Bisqwit
@Bisqwit 4 года назад
Pretty much zero, because the correct key sequence was one of the first things I heard about it.
@AdrianDucao
@AdrianDucao 4 года назад
It's not about what IDE/Editor you're using it's about how competent you are writing code.
@daya455
@daya455 4 года назад
Lovely!
@le9038
@le9038 2 года назад
what editor do you use for your code?
@Bisqwit
@Bisqwit 2 года назад
huh
@WhatzHappeningNow9
@WhatzHappeningNow9 4 года назад
Just curious, why don't you use other text editors like VSCode?. I can understand why a lightweight editor can be beneficial when you are working on raspberry pi, arm processors. But VSCode has tons of extensions that just make your life so much easier.
@Bisqwit
@Bisqwit 4 года назад
The excuse I gave in the video was “you just can’t compete with 15 years of muscle memory”.
@jsceo
@jsceo 3 года назад
did you create a script for capturing all those screenshots at the beggining of the video?
@Bisqwit
@Bisqwit 3 года назад
I captured each of the screenshots manually, but I created a script that creates an animation out of them.
@minecraftermad
@minecraftermad 4 года назад
we used borland or whatever at school... in 2015
@notorious_trollfaust
@notorious_trollfaust 4 года назад
I use nano :P
@alpagutsencer
@alpagutsencer 4 года назад
I still dont understand why you are always short on gear even you are living in Finland and having jobs.
@Bisqwit
@Bisqwit 4 года назад
I was taught to be careful with my money, so I am. A fool and his money are soon parted, and I don’t like crossing that boundary. When most things happened that I described in this video, I was earning less than a cleaner, even though I worked as a web programmer. Later, when I worked as a bus driver, I almost doubled that, and I am doing even better now, but I am still careful with my spending.
@JosueRodriguez08
@JosueRodriguez08 4 года назад
@@Bisqwit there is a big gap between being careful and not buying something that can clearly help you out in you own passion and career. Come on.
@spotted756
@spotted756 4 года назад
@@Bisqwit Well, there you have it. Probably being a Developer in Finland does not pay off. In Romania surprisingly you can earn almost 3000 euro/month with 500 euro rent max for 2 rooms.
@JOELwindows7
@JOELwindows7 4 года назад
@@JosueRodriguez08 You can buy hardwares alot. But never trust proprietary and not $0 software. Careful spending! -Never- refrain from buy (not $0) software!
@creatorsremose
@creatorsremose 4 года назад
@@spotted756 Sure, but like you said... Romania.
@ShyRed
@ShyRed 4 года назад
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