Which Is Better? Lectric XP 3.0 Or Lectric XP 2.0? We Put Them To The Test! 

Was going to order the 2.0 last night but got busy (ended up being a blessing in disguise). Logged back on at 3am to order the 2.0 and saw the 3.0 had JUST launched with $277 worth of free accessories. Ordered. Which of the two variants handles better? The regular 3.0 or the 3.0ST? Thank you

What is the grade of the hill in your test?

Thank you! Hope you enjoy it as much as we do. -JT

Lectric normally stocks replacement parts. If you contact them, they can probably sell you the 3.0 grips and possibly even a seat.

I did the same and upgraded my 2.0 to a larger battery. There's not much reason for me to upgrade to a 3.0 unless I really want the newer controller.

With the same 11-28t i think it’d be hardly any different. I’ll be keeping my 2.0 and mod it soon enough with some POWER

Yeah, in my experience, there is no discernable performance increase going from the earlier XP generations to the 3.0. The improved top gear ratio does help in terms of comfortable pedalling speed and resistance (i.e., it eliminates "ghost pedaling" at high speeds), but as far as I can tell, the overall power output of the motor is the same either way.

Nice! The 3.0 is “accidentally” worth the wait.

That's awesome!

Saw 48 v motor controllers Amazon $80. Worth the conversion. Will it work? Is swappin out controller wires easy?

Cannot exactly comment. But with the motor and controller being larger I think it would be quite a bit better. -JT

Appreciate you thinking about us!

@@EbikeEscape np. Fwiw, they also gave me a survey, at the end, so I mentioned the channel there. Hopefully, you’re covered one way or the other. It was a big gd order, so somebody ought to benefit (besides us).

Those do help quite a bit. Cheers! -JT

Great Question. We have a bit more riding to do before we can definitively say. But we have found Lectric to be very accurate in the past with their range estimates. So if you go off of their numbers. It looks like the range all remains the same. 2 extra amps is a small amount. And the rear motor sounded like it was more efficient. So I believe their numbers for the 3.0.

@@EbikeEscape has the weight remained the same. New rigid rear rack & front shock should be heavier. Only time will tell how the extra torque affects range & reliability.

Thank you kindly!

The two battery is only offered on the XPremium. And would be a 20Ah combined capacity. The capacity on the standard XP 3.0 is 10Ah and the Long Range XP 3.0 has a 14Ah capacity.

The setting you are looking for is P08 in the advanced settings. Hold the "+" and "-" button down at the same time, until the screen changes. Then cycle through the advanced settings to get to setting P08. Turn that from 45 to 100. And your top speed of the bike on throttle only is bumped up to 28 mph. Do this at your own risk, there are settings in this advanced area that can harm your bike. Also consult all local laws and regulations before making any adjustments.

@@EbikeEscape No, changing the top speed setting (from 20 mph to 28 mph) only applies to the pedal assist mode. The max speed in throttle-only is not adjustable and remains at 20 mph.

I think you'll be happy with the 2.0. It's still a solid bike. Now if you were planning to utilize the full weight capacity of the rear rack then I would probably consider upgrading.

see my post above...these bikes are easy peasy to upgrade component wise

You do not. Texas follows the federal ebike classifications. Which allows Lectric ebikes to all be ridden without the need for any other sort of requirements.

Honestly tho because I'm think that premium is not so premium even with the 2 batteries. It 5oo more and just almost make it not worth it any more...🤔

Business write off? Go with the 3.0 long range 😄 But really unless you like the 3.0 features (for me the integrated rear rack for children) the 2.0 is a screaming deal.

@@EbikeEscape Thank you! Other people have told me to get the 3.0 and just get an extra battery for the future

I prefer the step thru both for looks and accessibility.

@@EbikeEscape Funny, I think the classic version looks better. Much sleeker, imho. (Step-through is indeed easier to access, though, I'll grant you that. But it also puts the pedals closer to the ground, which is a slight disadvantage.) All in all, I prefer the classic version. 😊

That I do not know. I think in most cases you'll do well if you buy a name brand but obviously any brand can have issues. Just follow the easy instructions on battery storage and charging.

@@EbikeEscape Uh.... I think you may have replied to the wrong comment.

You could change to front to a larger ring to get a little bit more steam, but how much faster then 30mph are you trying to go?

@@EbikeEscape a few more mph faster, mister

Lectric’s website has a range chart on it. We found it to be quite realistic in our previous testing. Check that out.

Here is a link. The chart is less then half way down the page: lectricebikes.sjv.io/GjL1o2 (affiliate link)

Definitely

No. It is the same on both models.

How safe is it for the key to not fall off while riding?

The rear motor is different also. So I think that would cost a bit more to make the same.

If you like biking, the Mid-Drive has a more natural feel. The 3.0 is awesome, but still a hub drive motor. So it feels a bit different. Where are you trying them out? In Phoenix?

@@EbikeEscape Thanks for the reply. Yes, Phoenix! Based on what I am reading so far, I will probably go with the 3.0.

I bought my XPremium a month ago and it really is great. I think that mid-drive really makes the difference. I actually pedal around tight u-turns in the road where as I think the X has more unstable feeling trying to do that. Plus the fact that I think the mid-drives are so much quieter than the hub drives. I like to ride on nature trails and I don't think other people appreciate noisy ebikes on the trails. Mine is whisper quiet.

Mid Drive uses electricity more efficiently, but stretches the chain. I went from a mid-drive to a hub Drive and stopped having to switch chains every year or so. Also, I'm more confident I can throttle out of a dangerous situation without worrying about my chain slipping.

Update: I went to Lectric Headquarters today. It was a very cool facility and Alex was great to work with. Being able to take unattended test drives in the nearby neighborhoods made all the difference. I took 4 long rides. One on the XPremium, one on the XP 3.0 and two separate rides on the XP 3.0 Step-thru. I was really trying to convince myself that the step-thru was the way to go, but....I loved the natural bike riding feel of the XPremium, along with the quiet and smooth hydraulic brakes. It was a night/day difference from the hub drive motor due to the overall realistic true bike pedaling experience, but in the end, it didn't win out. Unfortunately, it almost felt like I was riding an old Puch moped from the 80's. it just didn't seem to have the same "get up and go" perkiness that the other two had. It had such a heavy feeling and drag to it and wasn't as nimble as the others due to that. As I rode it, I learned how to take better advantage of the power though. The XP 3.0 Step-Thru was next. There was just something about it that felt off from the start. It was very hard to put my finger on what exactly it was, thus why I took two separate test drives on it in-between the others. Possibly it was due to it being "lower to the ground" then the XP 3.0 and also a feeling of the frame just not being as "tight" and "strong". Almost as if the bike was made of two separate halves. The XP 3.0 won out. It just felt the most comfortable overall and it was just as easy to mount, at least for me. Please keep in mind, I'm a total ebike novice and not exactly a spring chicken (56 years old). I only rode one for the first time a year ago (XP 2.0) and haven't ridden one since. Take anything I said above with a grain of salt, as I am not claiming to speak with any authority. The only downfall of the test drives is that the area was all totally flat. I couldn't test out the power of the 500 watt hub-motor on any substantial inclines like I would have to deal with living 30 minutes North of the Lectric facility. I'd love to test out another ebike brand with a 750 watt hub-motor, but having the ebike manufacture right "down the road" might provide a better overall value add! Thanks, Lectric!

The issue we have found with internal cables is they are tougher to get to fold without kinking the cable. Aesthetics of course internal looks better. As far as welding goes. We have yet to have one of our models crack or break. Also worth remembering that this is a sub $1000 ebike. I recommend checking out the Denago Folding 1 or the Aventon Sinch. Those models have some appeal that I think you might be looking for.

They did post that updates to the XP were being announced Nov. 1 on their web site.

@@chow-chihuang4903 they didn't post that a month ago.

Agree here, just took delivery of my 2 x 2.0's in October spending almost 2500, I guess the bikes are OK but to then get emails and text messages just a few weeks later saying "hey buy the new 3.0 it's better than that old 2.0 you just bought" is pretty shitty. The new edition does address some of my concerns and frustrations with the 2.0 but now I'm completely screwed and cannot afford or justify an upgrade so soon. I reached out to their service team and basically was told "sucks for you" I even offered to buy a bike without a battery and just use my battery apparently this is not an option. If I'm being completely honest here if go with Rad if I had it to do all over again, lectric has a very terrible return policy and I can't help but wonder why...seems pretty clear that Instead of telling potential buyers "hey we have a new version coming soon" they would rather just keep pushing bikes out the door at all costs to avoid any potential temporary lull to the balance sheet.

@@sebrofc I am with you. I will never buy another bike from lectric. Got my bike the day they annouced the 3.0, same price. Dirty pull.on their part.

Sell your bike on face book or offer up it holds it vale big time you should have no problem making that money back thats what i did😉. Sold for 950

Which setting did you change? And is that top speed on throttle only or pedaling? Another though, is make sure when you are shifting into the smallest gear (the 11 tooth). Sometimes things can get bent during shipping and not allow you into the smallest gear. Which will effect your pedaling top speed.

I had that happen when I bought my 2.0 ,but after a few charges it should improve.

David sez: _"Unlocked the motor by following instructions, but fasted bike will go is 17.9mph. I’m 200lbs."_ Yeah, I have the same experience. I weigh about the same as you, but in throttle-only mode, my top speed is about 17.5 to 18 mph. And that's on a fresh battery. As it discharges, the top speed decreases as well. At around half full, my top speed is only about 15 mph. 😕 (In pedal assist mode, this is less of a problem. I can get it up to around 25 mph in top gear in pedal assist mode. Maybe even a little bit more if I push really hard.)

We reached out to Lectric to confirm. The batteries are backwards compatible. The issue, Lectric said the issue was all reviewers got pre-production models. And this issue was changed on production models. Feel free to reach out to Lectric. They can confirm the backwards compatibility.

@@EbikeEscape Wow, that was a fast reply! 😃 That's good news for me, because I have an XP (1.0) and I'd like to upgrade to an XP 3.0, and it would be nice to be able to use the XP's old battery as a backup. Thanks for the info! 👍😊

Update: I bought the 3.0, and the old battery from my 1.0 didn't fit. 😡 It looks like it is _supposed_ to, but due to what I perceive to be poor manufacturing tolerances, it was too tight and had to be forced hard to go all the way into the frame tube. At that point, it was in so tight that the only way to remove the old batt from the new bike was to pry it out with a screwdriver. Worse, the locking pin on the 1.0 battery didn't line up with the corresponding hole in the 3.0 frame, so I couldn't unlock and power on the battery. So it was a literal non-starter. So while it appears that the batteries from older XP generations are _supposed_ to be interchangeable, in fact they are not. Very disappointing.

Not really sure what you're complaining about? They did upgrades and kept the price the same. They did not advertise a price cut.

Trying to maintain that $999 price point makes it hard to incorporate rear suspension. We think the upgrades to the motor and drivetrain are quite the upgrades.

Is your rear tire seated all the way?

@@EbikeEscape yeah i checked that. the bike shop said the slime caused a section of the tube to almost double back on itself, causing like a ball to form, making the weight unbalance at a section of the tire. its all set now, luckily they did it free of charge. the fact that Lectric said a wheel wobble was a "normal" is insane to me

Agreed. After many commenters have brought this to my attention, I have been working on it. Thanks for the constructive criticism.