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Western Digital vs Seagate SSD Expansion card for Xbox Series X and Series S. Which one is better? Which one is Faster?
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@rrorge 9 месяцев назад

You kind of forgot that for the first year you just couldn't expand the storage of PlayStation at all, it was disabled

@AIIEYESONME 9 месяцев назад

I doubt Ray forgot, this was about relevant information. What you brought up is completely obsolete now Sony had fixed this within the first year and PlayStation owners began enjoying faster storage then the Series consoles at around a hundred and 20 bucks cheaper than Microsoft's lucrative deal with Seagate to screw over their own customers. While it's funny to note that PS5 fans were able to enjoy much more storage a year later while two years later the majority of XB customers were still stuck with 912 gigs default storage bc no one wanted to be ripped off by Seagate. Lol

@rrorge 9 месяцев назад

I'm not doubting that the expansion was overpriced, or that ultimately Xbox should have gone a similar route as Sony, but what I am saying is it took Sony nearly a full year to enable expanded storage, and for the first 6months of availablity the prices were comparable. So it's not quite as simple as ps5 owners were given a better solution straight away. There are certain things that Xbox does that Sony can't do, you can set up the expanded storage as a portable game drive, you can't do that with the PS5, which makes it a cool solution for someone like me that has a series x downstairs and a series s in my office upstairs.

@AIIEYESONME 9 месяцев назад

@@rrorge Fair enough, I'm in that boat too. I had a Series S so I felt like I had little choice but to bite the bullet on a Seagate 1tb SSD and when I got my Series X I gave my Series S to my daughter and shared the SSD between us. No doubt how convenient it is to truly plug and play the way XB designed their storage solution. I still bristle at the price Seagate had the nerve to charge almost the full price of a Series S. FKin Absurd. Yes no one forced me. But the way I don't know which game I get in the mood to play from day to day made managing the meager Series S storage swapping back in forth from my Samsung SSD a hard pass for me.

@RedPillAlways 9 месяцев назад

Now you can hold 8TBs on PS5 just on External an it true PCIe gen4 speeds

@explodingpotato6448 9 месяцев назад

@@RedPillAlways You can't play PS5 games on external storage. You can play PS4 games or transfer the games over which is usually faster than redownloading them over the internet. The same can be done with Xbox series X/S. That being said with the PS5 you can install an M.2 ssd that has higher speeds, has more space and is cheaper than the Xbox card.

@andyackerman7123 9 месяцев назад

Different tech. WD has had more years to work in this because Seagate has been sitting on the same product since the beginning… Seagate will have a replacement at some point, and it’ll be closer. That’s why there should be competition

@chriswright8074 9 месяцев назад

Seagate 2tb have a different controller

@arnezbridges93 5 месяцев назад

Uh won't be closer, the Xbox is 4x2 and the Playstation is 4x4 which is also the industry standard. There's zero water for Xbox hard drives to be faster given they are physically slower on purpose to prevent... I'm not sure WTF Microsoft was thinking.

@andyackerman7123 5 месяцев назад

@@arnezbridges93 why are you bringing up PlayStation? The comparison was WD vs Seagate, for XBOX….

@arnezbridges93 5 месяцев назад

@@andyackerman7123 because ultimately *brand* doesn't matter when the Series S/X is hamstrung by Microsoft's decision to dodge "piracy" via crippling the PCI bus. There a community that's already done this guys experiments more in depth with precise numbers and the reason for the "glitches" he found. Also we used the third party adapter and turns out the reason more drives didn't work wasn't the software, but that the Xbox physically can't handle the better drives 😭😭 The PS5 was bought up to show the bus differences. It's Hella funny cause at first it looks like Xbox was gonna be the freer, hackable, affordable, friendlier system. Especially when the PS5 choked on Returnal, a game that lives or dies by hardware resume function of the internal SSD. We got played like suckered.

@shaycray7662 9 месяцев назад

This is like when Rocky Balboa faced off against Ivan Drago. This is a battle for the ages!

@Guyatwo-m 19 дней назад

Ohh yeah!!!

@brettjones4634 9 месяцев назад

The WD Black doesn’t have a two terabyte so there’s that to consider and you know games will just keep getting bigger

@Luscombag 9 месяцев назад

I bought the WD for 2 reasons. 1: WD has a much longer warranty. 2: I didn't want to pay Seagate after they price gouged for years when they didn't have competition.

@ravekiller. 9 месяцев назад

I can’t think of a time when I ever needed a warranty for a ssd lol

@user-qf7qy8ch2d 9 месяцев назад

I hate seagate I've had way too many issues with seagate in the past I prefer wd but sadly they Dont offer a 2tb yet but will be buying the 2tb seagate but if wd ever comes out with a 2tb or bigger will be getting that to replace the seagate

@tomburnham6640 7 месяцев назад

@@user-qf7qy8ch2dJust wait for the price to crash. They have already halved in value since release, they will crash further I imagine probably ending up at 180-200 for the 2TB.

@JAmitch-qi7jz 9 месяцев назад

You MUST point out the biggest difference with this storage. Portability!!!! You can hot swap these from one xbox to another, no formatting. Just log into an xbox with your account and bam your games are playable by just loading the expansion card and logging in. In a digital games world these make taking said digital games to a friends house that they dont own possible. This is how all console storage should be. It shouldnt be locked to one console.

@LukeM2 9 месяцев назад

If both ssds were the same size ie: 1tb then this is a fair test. If one was 500gb and the other was 1tb then there will be a discrepancy because ssds usually perform better the larger it is because it will have more NAND chips and maybe a better controller(NAND).

@chriswright8074 9 месяцев назад

Yes but the 2tb Seagate SSD have a different controller

@LukeM2 9 месяцев назад

@@chriswright8074 this is my point. Ssd size needs to be the same for both tests

@anneritchie8264 9 месяцев назад

Also, were both cards empty when everything started? Ray didn't say

@hhectorlector 8 месяцев назад

These “tests” were so far from following the scientific method-I’d be surprised if anyone who “liked” this video would care

@ayoungtricknamedjim5498 6 месяцев назад

He said they're both 1 TB. The WD Black costs less and is considerably faster than the Seagate. Western Digital is crushing it!

@captainthunderbolt7541 9 месяцев назад

You're not measuring the same things. This is pointless.

@arnezbridges93 5 месяцев назад

The 10 second difference is a known factor. The drive does indeed tranfer faster for often used files. I guess its on nand or memory or something like that.

@oliverjackson2594 6 месяцев назад

Dude, you're the man. You really love this stuff and it shows. Long live your channel.

@SolVentulus 9 месяцев назад

There was a problem with the Solar Ash test. Going from opening the game to when you can "press any button" isn't good since all those screens are designed to last as long as they did and that's why you got similar results. You should have used loading screens to make a better test of how a game loads from the cards. Just something to think about if you ever make this kind of video again. Either way, I'm hoping to get a Series X this year if I can find one during these holiday/end of year sales.

@Fastlan3 9 месяцев назад

When series s/x first released, you could use a high speed SSD's. A few updates later this became not possible for most if not all series s/x games. I load all my games on to separate a SSD so i don't need to download them again - although updates can still complicate things when you actually want to play the game.

@kenshiroson4893 9 месяцев назад

This is a really cool video Ray. I'm actually fascinated by this.

@jerrodmcdaniel2043 9 месяцев назад

Great video thanks for all the informative videos which are also entertaining too however I wish you'd done a reverse test of transferring it back to the xbox

@jaymichael497 7 месяцев назад

Idk, but the fast forward bits with the 80s synth track hits just right for me. Lolz. I'm on series s, and definitely have been looking into a memory upgrade.

@DarthSeanious 7 месяцев назад

I have always preferred WD over Seagate. And the WD is cheaper so this has just confirmed my choice. I also prefer Xbox over PS5 but it is much better to not be locked into a proprietary system

@muveemanone2067 9 месяцев назад

Thnx 'X-Ray!' very informative n helpful video 🤘🏼

@DeeKnow 9 месяцев назад

Yea I've had the 1tb seagate expansion since it launched.

@svenkummer7379 9 месяцев назад

i like that your trying something new keep making w videos!

@DonaldHendleyBklynvexRecords 9 месяцев назад

The best way to time these things is through recording the screens and post production timing them

@RobHayes_V 3 месяца назад

Thanks for detailed comparison. Can you post a link to your TV stand?

@Dee-ld2ty 6 месяцев назад

So lucky to have Ray Ramano teaching me xbox stuff

@mogamadrifaatabrahams8643 9 месяцев назад

6 gigs per second??? Give me ur wifi plzzz😂

@tylerkretz5651 9 месяцев назад

This is why I love this channel thank you Xbox Ready you are always the best facts about Xbox

@3Rayfire 6 месяцев назад

Love the 80s workout music selection for the timing portion.

@houman2009 Месяц назад

@BobsMaginty 9 месяцев назад

I like these type of videos, please make more dude!💖💖👍👍

@trell114 9 месяцев назад

Thanks for keeping us XBOX Ready with this informative video I was trying to decide which one to get this definitely help a ton appreciate you.

@VileDivinity 9 месяцев назад

I got the Western digital card recently and its running great so far.

@tbzombie1725 6 месяцев назад

Be nice to run optimized games on externals

@jcchaconjr Месяц назад

Something was “off” there. The Seagate drive was peaking at about 6.4 to 6.5 GB/sec transfers, and the WD was only managing just under 6 at best. I think that the big difference was that finalization process. 🤔

@77dris 9 месяцев назад

You should have dressed up as a track coach with that stop watch. LOL. Btw, the loading times of Solar Ash, and most game, is probably fixed by the game manufacturer to allow the same amount of time to show the startup screens etc and may not be affected by SSD speed. I know people have done tests of applications like Photoshop and found that the startup screens are purposely slowed to stay on the screen for X amount of time, and often there will be no disc read/writes going on.

@AIIEYESONME 9 месяцев назад

I thought that too. But then I recalled how long the Witcher 3 took to boot up on my ol XBone. On the Series S the Witcher 3 was blazing fast to boot up. And on the Series X even a little faster, although it was tested on a mostly empty internal Storage of the Series X while Series S internal ws capped. And both used the same Seagate external 1tb storage card that booted up equally just as fast. Same thing happened in my test of FO4 with 150 mods that took even longer to boot up on my XBone then TW3 even did. the results were astounding. mere seconds and I was at the loading screen, few more seconds and I was in the game.

@robgable2426 9 месяцев назад

I put in a 25 gig hard drive in my og Xbox. That was huge at the time. I currently have a 1tb ssd external drive for older games and swapping games to Series X.

@Averyfarish 9 месяцев назад

I Like That TV Stand Where Did You Get That ???

@Scorpiometricsofficial 4 месяца назад

Man, I remember in 2003 when my son opened his playstation 2 for Christmas just to sell it and buy an xbox. I'm going to be honest I never found out until he moved out around 2010 and wondered why the hell there was a leftover xbox in his closet

@mlicerio4362 9 месяцев назад

You never answered the first question.. why do we only have 2 options for expandable storage.. Seagate and WD Black .. would like to know your thoughts on that..

@nativesneakz3609 8 месяцев назад

I’m waiting for more 2tB option or atleast for the prices to drop really not tryna spend another $280 on just storage 😭but I will if it’s not cheaper within next 3-6 months

@lanecollier2834 9 месяцев назад

Meanwhile for someone who just bought a series X today and is finally replacing the Xbox one 1TB advanced warfare edition……. These times are still other worldly forget the differences between the two cards. I’m more than ecstatic about both 😂😂😂

@hiawa23 9 месяцев назад

I have 6 TB of Seagate storage cards, and 12TB of Samsung 860 SSDs external which houses 4 generations of Xbox games.

@taeganmoses3686 9 месяцев назад

Can I get a compilation of all the "ooohh's!!" Lol

@awes5709 9 месяцев назад

My solution is two 1trb 2.5 SSDs with enclosures for XBONE games/BCGs. 1trb expansion card for SeriesX games. Since SSDs eventually die Im worried about the internal drive and would try not to put too much rd/wrt time on it. Considering you have to send it to MS for replacing.

@srobeck77 9 месяцев назад

Confused by "ssd's eventually" I mean the sun eventually burns out too. SSD with no moving parts last far longer than the mechanical drives. So what are we really talking about here, 2-4 decades of life?

@abdulambon5148 5 месяцев назад

@@srobeck77thank you for clarifying be I saw the comment above and was a little confused/worried

@w4nderers460 9 месяцев назад

If there were 4 tb external ssd I will start getting hyped..

@srobeck77 9 месяцев назад

Would u get just as hyped for the $1,000 price tag it would come with?

@Dre-ib6si 9 месяцев назад

Lol overkill

@SNKev411 9 месяцев назад

Hey ray Do you think Microsoft will ever release a light gun For the Xbox Series S and x To compete with the playstation VR2

@bigup31 6 месяцев назад

What stand is that tv/monitor on? Really like it and can’t find a similar one.

@FXIIBeaver 4 месяца назад

Whoa whoa. Did the exclusivity end?

@buddyhanson8630 9 месяцев назад

I believe Walmart has a 1 terabyte card and a 2 terabyte SSD Seagate for 200 dollars as a bundle

@YouTubeCensors 9 месяцев назад

An Xbox ssd and a regular HDD bundle

@rodnemeth6766 Месяц назад

@@RU-vidCensorsYes it's even on there app. It's the Xbox dual pack and it's amazing

@THNiggies 9 месяцев назад

Low key, that stop watch is not analog, it’s digital. 🤫

@WaynesWorldUnlimited 5 месяцев назад

I have the Xbox series S which I barely use. I have the Xbox series X which I live on and I this Christmas picked up the one terabyte SSD Seagate Drive job done

@hassosigbjoernson5738 2 дня назад

I do have a USB-SSD on my XBox Series. It's a Crucial X8 2TB which often did go for like 80 bucks. That's really helpful.

@Terryhunt385 9 месяцев назад

I have a Seagate 2 TB from Best Buy that I bought for $360 USD (on sale 10% off). I enjoy it. Nothing against the WD Black, but it is in the back of the console, so I never think about it.

@scenev145 8 месяцев назад

Is it worth getting still

@Yuntoe 7 месяцев назад

@@scenev145definitely not

@agee0708theonly 9 месяцев назад

after two years both mine and my sons interal ssd died killing the xbox went to pc so sad hope yalls get a longer life

@WaynesWorldUnlimited 9 месяцев назад

I’m definitely in the market for one of these. Sick to death of hard drives.

@tyicbranch2734 9 месяцев назад

I'm the same way I have like 90 games and I'm sick of swaping games over Im thinking about getting one of these to download my next gen games on

@chriswright8074 9 месяцев назад

@@tyicbranch27342tb

@WaynesWorldUnlimited 9 месяцев назад

@@tyicbranch2734 yeah I completely agree I’ve got slightly more games and you about 600. All downloaded but then I used to be a broadcaster so I do have a lot.

@jaxtaylor33 9 месяцев назад

The 2TB seagate SSD has faster read/write times then the 1tb version.

@Dotbanero 3 месяца назад

I subscribed just off the 80s intro. Solid

@CJ42082 9 месяцев назад

I have a series x green but I still love it with 1tb Seagate card to 😂😆 I love how I can play anything of my Seagate card 43 games total on system and card combined

@MightyMorpinMatt 9 месяцев назад

Ray you left the fact that you could take apart the xbox 360 HDD down the drive itself and use it on the xbox 360 elite slim for extra space instead of buying the expansion drive although I use this method for my set for about a year tell Destinys expansions started to expand gig size. Lol.

@killer09321 9 месяцев назад

You forgot that the 360 actually had small memory cards that went into the front of the console!

@hovamane 7 месяцев назад

So the newer cards are faster to d/l and transfer, but same speed on startup 🤔

@khalfaniwilliams9948 5 месяцев назад

Great video these things matter I got PS 1 vibes from these MCs ✌🏽

@bigtank1982 9 месяцев назад

Noticed on some of your runs a game was still “playing” in the background and sometimes not. This will effect transfer speeds. Made your test less than scientific.

@ssmufc9941 9 месяцев назад

Time to time the time it takes to take … data from one place to another 😂

@Mark-dr8tf 9 месяцев назад

8 gigs was fine for the og Xbox

@MrJoshpit 9 месяцев назад

Great vid

@B3A5T_91 2 месяца назад

After a year or so of series x being out u could n u can still buy custom empty storage card casing n then u just needed a ssd to install in it, just ur xbox needed to accept it. To some people it was a cheaper option n for a while was a better option as the segate cards were unable to get hold of due to high demand. Then western digital came out with theirs to provide more options.

@urbansk8r231 9 месяцев назад

What about using Samsung's external T7 Solid State Drive on Xbox series x,. I have 2 TB portal one. It comes in a fitted case, that has a pouch for cable.

@robgable2426 9 месяцев назад

You have to start time when you press start game and see how long until you're in the game.

@josephhall7317 Месяц назад

I had the Seagate with my first series S, got the western digital with my current series X and overheated the system and it cooked through western digital, so back to the Seagate expansion card

@michaelburton 8 месяцев назад

The Seagate drive is nearly flush with the Xbox so there's nothing to see when installed anyway 🤷🏻‍♂️. Does the WD stick out at all?

@UONeal 9 месяцев назад

You should test the 2tb vs 1tb... BC the 2tb is a few Gbps faster

@n64slayer 9 месяцев назад

They should make a cd that you put in the slot that gives you storage that would be way better if you never use physical games

@TGGA 7 месяцев назад

That would be worse. Reading and writing data to a physical disk takes LONGER then reading directly off the SSD.

@stevengilbertjr.1733 9 месяцев назад

You should test the loading times for a more demanding game like Skyrim

@thomasenright5282 3 месяца назад

One is very expensive for this expansion, esp when you see the see the price you would pay for a normal NVME M.2 either 1 or 2 tb, not only that it is very hard to get the 2tb expansion anywhere in Ireland.

@Mark-dr8tf 9 месяцев назад

Great vid. What I will say is by your test Wd black has a superior transfer rate. Quick resume might benefit, but from dashboard to startup menu you not so much.

@XBnPC 9 месяцев назад

Most scientific testing ever 😂

@larryharshmanjr5634 9 месяцев назад

Add the 2 times together and divide by 2 for an average

@newfie66xbox76 5 месяцев назад

Ray I bought a Portable 2TB solid State HDD It is a 3.1 plugs in the USB Port in the back on the Series X it's compatible with XlS bought it on amazon $70.

@blany7160 9 месяцев назад

When will you talk about the Xbox Mastercard

@505PRE 9 месяцев назад

They never have those damn Storage cards at my GameStop or Walmart. They should have just released the series s with the 1tb tf!

@chriswright8074 9 месяцев назад

Amazon

@srobeck77 9 месяцев назад

The PS5 doesnt even release with 1tb. Its about the cost me boy.

@505PRE 9 месяцев назад

@@srobeck77 damn not even the ps5 huh rip

@knowledgegaming8437 6 дней назад

I bought one. Now I have to buy another one for videos. I dont have a computer to reformat the SSD. Didnt know once you format for storage you cant redo the format unless you have a computer. So keep that in mind before you format one.

@mikejohnson8391 3 месяца назад

There no mention mentioning of 2nd Xbox site of 2nd Xbox series x other than one on market with green light.😊

@rager1969 7 месяцев назад

Which one do I have? I have a 2TB Seagate on my XSX and a 1TB Western Digital on my XSS.

@ThePhOeNiX86 9 месяцев назад

Real question is how do games play because these cards let you play without transfer so what's that even matter how does it affect gameplay and downloads.

@1LowkeyMF 7 месяцев назад

So I just got my Xbox series X, do I get the WD or the Seagate ?

@aryamansinghgaharwar 9 месяцев назад

why is bro so hyped 💀

@moby3412 9 месяцев назад

Don't know how fast the cards are but it takes 15.55 to test 2 cards 😂😂

@MrLonewarrior93 Месяц назад

This dude talks.. F O R E V E R about so much unrelated crap! !! On soooo many videos !!! On and on and wanting to go back in time.. bla bla bla. Dont care about all the other crap. Just get to the point already . Smh.

@gameingdp3605 9 месяцев назад

I have a external hard drive but I want a internal just to store my xbox series games on because it's a faster

@mistro0014 9 месяцев назад

What are the manufacturer quoted speeds?

@luisconcepcion723 7 месяцев назад

I went with the Seagate 2TB. I like the performance and how it looks.

@panamaalex 9 месяцев назад

Late to the game, Sega Master System had internal hard drive with Hang On and Snail Maze.

@grilsegrils9330 5 месяцев назад

I think some of the copy attempts you show us must be cached by the time you do reruns

@grilsegrils9330 5 месяцев назад

You probably hit the throttling limit of SLC imitation with the Star game

@TW-yj2rs 9 месяцев назад

your stopwatch is still digital

@brutusinthesin5883 9 месяцев назад

That's what I was laughing at. 😅

@NIGEL-MORGZZ1100 9 месяцев назад

Here we go

@billrevels3331 9 месяцев назад

Why won't someone make an ssd cable that connects the xbox to any size SSD drive at the same speed as the internal?

@tonycoffee7335 3 месяца назад

I am saving my internal 1TB storage for GTA 6 when it coming out. Lol

@richardrussell7082 9 месяцев назад

Non-Seagate drives don't have access to the velocity architecture, so the benefit would be more in ongoing general gameplay, rather than just file transfers.

@ryrymanuel 9 месяцев назад

Wd c50 advertises that it does have velocity

@steven2809 9 месяцев назад

Rubbish...

@Lionheart1188 9 месяцев назад

"velocity architecture" is a marketing buzzword lol

@cubano100pct 8 месяцев назад

FULL ANALOG!! You used a digital handheld stopwatch. Should have used a mechanical windup stopwatch. You know the ones that have hands moving around in the dial.

@hornet66 9 месяцев назад

I doubt in the real world you will never be able to notice the difference in speed between the 2 drives.

@user-fh2ir6lq1n 5 месяцев назад

Who wouldve thought 20 years later xbox would bring back the idea of a memory card. I know people who have multiple with different games and saves downloaded onto em, even has one strictly for game footage and screen shot. They use the ssd that plugs in the like a modernday ps2 memory card

@KingSora909 9 месяцев назад

I feel like the Western Digital wins because it's just a slight bit faster plus it is less money

@skipdoggs 9 месяцев назад

Back then on the Xbox - Xbox 360 we didn't have to download the games the memories were just for saving game progress

@kram9850 9 месяцев назад

Unless you have a low atention span and play muliple games at once, then you really dont need this , im still suing a element ssd and when i need to put a game on the internal it takes about 5 minutes plus their already like 8 games on internal so unles you jump from game to game a good ssd is worth more in my opinion

@JoseOrtiz-xh6he 9 месяцев назад

I bought the seagate 1tb for my white Xbox series s and for my brother black series s that comes with 1tb already I bought and WD 512 gb drive 1500 gb should be enough for me as new games come out I’ll just delete older ones like gta and cod