This is the final video in the ultimate multi-frequency showdown with the 4 top metal detector manufactures flag ship metal detectors. They are the Garrett Ace Apex, Minelab Manticore, Nokta Legend & XP Deus
Sounds like a fair unbiased (free machines from companies) review. You do teachable videos and that's awesome. More and more metal detecting tubers could care less about the hobby they just want the free goodies. THANK YOU!
The Vanquish is a great machine! I almost bought one, but the Legend was on sale and I couldn't resist getting it for $550. It came with headphones and a full carbon fiber shaft plus the LG30 coil. It's a steal of a deal. I've already found a lot of old coins on the beach, the oldest coin I found is 1924. I've had it for a month and can't seem to put it down much lol 😊
Good videos and fair comparisons on those machines, I own a Legend for now,it was more affordable to me and has many coils, for the future I would like that Manticore. Thanks for show the aspects.
Guys, ive metal detected for 25 years, tried em all. NOTHING, I MEAN NOTHING compared to the Whites V3i. It truly searched in three frequencies at the same time and deciphered, analyzed and gave you the information back in the correct frequency. Multi frequency is not the same as the V3i operating in 2khz, 7.5khz, and 22.5 khz. Its polar plot graph analyzing screen was 100% correct on if it is a coin or not. ALL in Color. Also, with the standard coil, I easily found silver dimes on edge at 11-12 inches, NOT KIDDING. Yes, it was complex to setup and expensive, but amazing. I'd never give mine up. What happened to whites?? SAD
Nothing compares to the V3i. It will find anything practically anywhere. Large color screen, completely programmable, nothing like it and everything out there today is still trying to catch up.
Good video, I think I’m on the same page with you on the D2 and manticore decisions. I’m fortunate and have both, and sometimes struggle on which one to use as the primary. I guess I will continue to carry both …lol
Very good video and pretty much spot on for most every point. I love my Nokta Legend and it's a very capable and durable machine. It is a little harder to use but once you setup your custom profiles you basically just go to the one you want and away you go. No questions XP Deus II and Manticore are great machines but you're paying a heck of a lot more for them. The price for XP Coils is just ridiculous and that was the big reason why I stayed away from XP. The Nokta Makro Legend has 5 coil options now and they range from $100 to $169 which is much more reasonable.
Nice Video, R&R. Good information presented, without bias toward any one manufacturer. A big factor in which detector to buy is where one is going to use it. I don't hunt beaches b/c of my mid central location, but when the Apex came out, I became interested enough to buy one. At the time, ML was the only vendor selling their SMF machines, and SMF was what I wanted after owning a ML Sovereign many years ago. At the time of purchase, I had not metal detected for 15-20 years, so I wasn't sure if I would enjoy detecting again, so the Apex's cost was more in line with my budget. Garrett did a reasonable job with the Apex, and once learned does not disappoint. So much so that I have bought 2 other coils for it. I've found hundreds of coins, some jewelry and relics with the Apex at old homesites. I have hunted iron rich homesites with it, and it does a reasonable job. When the going gets tough as in denser iron, I use my Deus 2-9" coil. The Deus will hit a little deeper in my local soil matrix. The adjust ability of the Deus is what you pay for, and it sometimes helps on more difficult sites. A lot of older homesites don't require the ability of the Deus, so I use the Apex at these sites. My only wish is that Garrett would release an update for the Apex that included recovery time adjustment, and some others that you indicated; Or maybe and AT(Apex) version. The Deus is a lot more adjustable and for a comparable coil size can detect a little deeper. The persistence of the TID is much more stable on the Deus than the Apex, and the Deus RC is water proof for heavier rainfall or water hunting. A big factor for me was the lighter weight, like the Apex. At 70 yrs old, I like to minimize the weight to swing. I like both machines. Now there are other detectors available that are SMF which provide great performance/$ . But for now, I have both ends covered, so I'll enjoy what I have.
Thanks for your comments. Lots of good information contained in it. When the Apex first came out I wasn't impressed. After they did the update, things improved. It really is an OK detector for most sites.
I Absolutely love the Manticore-I've had mine for about 7 months and I am really comfortable with it-I just wish I could get my hands on the smaller coil
I agree about the Nokta Legend. I bought it 7 months ago and am just now willing to give it a try. I think its a great machine but haven't looked forward to figuring out the settings because of the menu. If mot for that I would have been using it already. Ive ran a 800 and 900 Minelab since starting detecting about 1.5 yrs ago. I dont know if I will continue with Minelab because of how theyve handled bringing out coils for the Manticore and the delays. Great video! 👍👍👍
That's for sure the biggest downside of the Legend, in my opinion, the menu layout. Other than that, it's a very capable detector. Yea, Minelab has really fallen short on the coil release for the Manticore.
i have the Garrett Gold AT, it sucks at the beach on the edge of the salt water. For plain sand or anything else its great. I dont dig hits under 30ish so it lets me be picky.
Excellent video. Very good, unbiased perspectives. Subbed your channel. Nothing more boring to me than 'fan-boys', hypists, coin planters or dullards. Thank you. From Cornwall UK.
Great wrap up. Shared it with a friend. I've been telling him to get the Legend as he's kind of a tightwad. But he's been using my Nox 800 a lot and thinks he needs a Nox 900. I'm trying to talk him off that ledge lol! For him, new with a warranty, I really think the Legend is his best bet. But for his budget, if he really wants to get a Nox, I think a used 800 would be the way to go over the 900. For one machine, I'm happy with my choice of the Manticore (assuming I can ever get an M8). But, I sure wouldn't mind having a D2 to go with it!
Thanks, Dave. Glad you liked the video. I think I'd have to agree with you on the Legend. Great machine for the money, and once you learn all the menus, it's right on par with the Equinox. At this point , I'm really liking the Manticore/Deus 2 comb. Tough par to beat if it fits in your budget.
I went from the Deus 2 to the manticore, because I have owned so many Minelabs that it just seemed like the right thing to do. Having said that, I am considering going back to the Deus, lol!
@@RelicsRings well, there are certain things about the Deus that make it a good fit for me. Mainly the wireless option. I didn’t think it would be that big of a deal, but it actually is. Also, it looks like I might end up doing some diving next summer and the rating on the manticore is not as deep. Plus all of the experiences with leaking equinox units back in the day do not instill a lot of confidence lol.
Great comparison video I think Deus 2, and Manticore are tops all around. About equal in my opinion for detecting. With all that said I am not a fan of the wire on the Dues in water and it makes a really high end detector look like it came out of the dollar store it’s just ugly and comes off in rough water. The multi plug up charge is not my favorite either I just don’t trust so many plugs. Small control box is not a plus either I like seeing the screen without having to squint and the VDI numbers go away to quickly to bring up and look closer. Both XY and 2D screens are just a tool don’t rely on either 100% but with manticore it’s a tool available on the big screen always without giving up VDI size.
Fantastic video. If i could trouble you with a question. I've been using the equinox 800 for about 4 years and i'm looking to upgrade to either a manticore or a deus 2 , i mainly hunt very trashy beaches with lots of foil , bottle caps , pull tabs and iron nails , which detector would be best for discriminating in those conditions ? Thanks
Either the Deus 2 or Manticore will work in those conditions. The Manticore I feel like is a bit deeper on the beach and the Deus 2 a bit better at separation. It comes down to which is more important to you.
I've found so many old silvers and coppors with the Apex ...It's been a great machine for me....I found my first 24 k gold ring with that machine.. It rang up like a silver dime high on vdi scale.. I'm wondering what did your gold coin ring up at ?
Nice outlook......Sure like my F75 too, but I guess that is becoming old school like me but I water hunt too and I want to retire my CZ21 Nice you8 put the APEX in there, I am a Garrett man from way,,,way back, but feel they have not kept up ...Thanks again
Aye. Still use my 75, and my F19. They've done me proud over the years. Got the 5" : 5x10" : 13" Detech DDs for the 75 plus it's standard 7x11". Same for the F19, minus the 7x11". Got a Legend too, for sh##ts and giggles. Damned if I'll get stung £1,000 plus for a machine...From the UK.
I'm hoping Garrett will get another SMF detector released soon. Now that Nokta has just announced 2 new SMF detectors, Garrett and Fisher have a lot of catching up to do.
@@RelicsRings Agree, I am a old Garrett man from the 80's and 90's, but the Americans have let it slip aways, I do have Fisher and they do the job,but you can't help to want to move on with the cell phone types :)) Just ordered a couple :))
To tell you the truth, just got two of the new big three, Legend and Manta, put them up against the 75 and they both lost with a really small bronze coin I look for here in Japan, just a flake of a coin. Can't go wrong with it @@KernowekTim
Great gold detector for the money, especially paired with the 5x10 HF coil. Not quit as sensitive as the Equinox series or Manticore, but it's right up there for multi-purpose .metal detectors
Does the Deus 2 have that external wire that has to be hooked up from coil to pod when submersing it in water? Did they improve the latch so you don’t lose the control pod? I’m guessing these downsides were on the first Deus model.
Yes, Deus 2 requires an external cable running from the coil to the remote in order to submerge it. There is an after market accessory available to hold the remote on better, but I haven't used one myself.
I have been Metal detecting for over 40 years and I can tell you for a fact that no machine is as good as the site you use it on. Get a great place to detect and you can use a crook handled c-Scope and make great finds.
I think he used the Minelab more then the Legend. His biggest pet peeve was the menu lol it’s the same menu type as all the rest. Multi menus. Only when you use it does it become easy.
You are right I do use the Minelab more than the Legend, no secret there. And yes the menu becomes second nature the more you use it. It's really not an issue overall for me but for a beginner it can be quit overwhelming trying to figure out the menu if you're not reading the manual.
I’ve got the manticore and love it. But always wasn’t the case. I’m semi new to detecting 3-4 years. I started on nox 800 and really liked the machine but once the manticore came out I wanted the 2D screen. The menu is awesome on manticore but at first I was overwhelmed by all the options. The update has helped with iron falsing but that drove me nuts for awhile. The sound would sound great and then you dig a square nail. Now I almost always know before I dig it. I was going to buy d2 but didn’t like menu or screen so I went with manticore. I’m sure either one would be great for a experienced person
@@RelicsRings There is very little to gain in performance between the Manticore and the 800 to be honest, someone with a lot of experience with the 800 would run rings around someone with the Manticore. The 800 is still one of the best detectors Minelab have ever made..
@martinsmith2984 well just by default anyone that bought an Equinox 800 when first released would have more experience than someone who just got a Manticore. Equinox is a great detector, only time will tell which is better. Having said that I still won't be going back to the 800, I really like the Manticore.
@@RelicsRings I have been detecting 40yrs, used all the top end detectors from all manufactures, in terms of performance the Manticore and Deus 2 are really not so far ahead of the 800 as some people seem to think, only talking about performance as in depth, sensitivity, ability to pull targets from areas other machines struggle..
@@RelicsRings As for the apex it should not be in that line up, and you said the Deus 2 was deeper that the Manticore on the beach its not. Gold prospecting none of that line up would be used by any serious gold prospector, What seems to happen now is people have several detectors they use from time to time so they never get the best out of any of them as there swapping and changing all the time. To really understand how good a machine is it must be used for 100s of hours in different locations with different conditions not half a hour here half an hour there, then back to the other machine, I dont like to have several machines at any one time, I tend to use a machine for several years to really get to know it and get the best out of it. The market is flooded with new machines now and people swap and change every other month then claim this detector is better than that detector when in truth they never take the time with any of them...
Tarsacci might be a good alternative. But I never could get used to the tones on it. My personal preference is to just use a pulse induction like the GPX in heavy minerals.
I use my GPX 6000 for relic hunting and it's very stable. Don't really miss the iron reject either as I'm digging deeper stuff and iron reject doesn't work in the deep stuff over 6" anyway.
900 nox never beat it in a gold fields here in Australia 🇦🇺 price and ya get 5m water proof . menu brilliant. With what ya can do as well with a 6 ins coil on notch no one will beat it.
Nothing Wrong with the Legend menu layout I learned the whole thing in a couple of days. You have to learn how to use equipment no mater what kind it is. The Manuel explains everything. The Legend is the best machine for the dollar in my opinion!!
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Yes everyone should read the manual and in the case of the Legend & Deus 2 for a beginner you need it on your phone for reference when in the field, unless you have a real good memory. Legend has hidden menu options that are not apparent from just scrolling through the menu. Not well laid IMO, but yes it is easy to learn over a few days of use. I also agree the Legend is the best machine for the money.
I felt the same way when I got my Legend but after just using it I was not bad at all to figure out. I agree that the screen on my Manticore it much better than Legend but performance is so close on the two that Manticore is certainly not worth $1000 more.
I agree with you about the Legend menu. After you use it for a while, it's not bad to navigate. It's like every other detector, you get used to it after a few days of using it. I still don't like how small everything is, though. I do feel like the Manticore is overpriced, especially with the recent price increase. However, I still prefer it over the Legend for many reasons.
@@RelicsRings I am also seeing a better performance with Manticore over Legend. I just wish it would pair to the $10 ear buds like Legend so I can still wear my sun hat while on the beach.
It's a very capable machine and one of the best for the money. It's hard to do a deep dive into all the machines without making a 1 hour video. Just tried to keep it informative and not too long.
I think they're both great detectors. I don't own either anymore, but of I had to choose between the 2 I'd go with the Legend just because it's multi frequency.
Manticore, Deus and Equinox all very expensive and not offering any substantial advantage for the very high price!! The Apex is not good in trashy sites! That's why I bought the Nokta Legend. I got it on sale for $550 U.S. and it's nothing less then fantastic!
@RelicsRings interesting... reason I brought that up First Texas has them forsale at that price with Waranty. My F5 is a small chain and small gold ring finding magnet, The Omega 8000 is a stud on Silver, The Simplex+ is just fun to use and I've used it enough to figure the jumpy target ID to nail down quite a few 9 inch finds. The Nokta Impact is just Deep and versatile the Deus one just stupid good in Iron. But in the real world of finds under 6 inches out of the 21 units I own I really find no real world differences from a 1983 Tesor Silver Saber to my Etrac. It's after 6 inches that gets interesting but detectors like my Tesoro Vaquero or modified Cibola hang just as well as my others. One of my sleepers is a dang old Garrett GTI 2500. Recovery speeds and processing speeds on some are better then others. But in the wild comparing targets just depends on my current search setup and coil I'm using at that given time. I just watched a video of the Legend getting beat out by three analog units in a simple iron test that the guy replicated on his actual recorder video dig. He then took the V or horse shoe bent nail placed the coin same way he found it and could get the magical cyclop see all Legend to get it or however he says it very funny sarcasm video but I get where he is coming from with all the marketing hype, even Dilec gets into with Calabash and I think it's a marketing ploy myself. I guess I'll buy one since it's the cheapest of all the Multi-IQ machines and give it a go.
@rickvann3489 I have mineralized dirt, so anything that can get a dime at 6" and give an ID is good. Most of those single frequency machines you mentioned will not hit a 6" dime here. If you don't have mineralized dirt, then I'm sure any of those machines you mentioned will do just fine. I also enjoy waterproof control box, wireless headphones, internal rechargeable batteries, adjustable iron bias, adjustable recovery speed and multi frequency that none of those detectors you mentioned have. The Legend is like having 4 detectors in one. Once you use I for a while. I'm sure you're going to like it.
I have the Deus 2, Manticore and Nokta as well and I find the Deus2 and Manticore both very good in iron I have been digging on a colonial site recently and both are pulling good targets out of heavy iron. The deus does a great job but I am not a fan of the small control box, the manticore is super deep and it loves hitting the smaller targets, also the 2d display is nice tool but much like XY on the deus I don’t rely on it for anything more than a second point of reference. I’d recommend turning sensitivity down on your Manticore to 22 or lower even and you’ll still find it still very deep and equal to the deus in iron from what I have seen. Both great machines I just prefer the larger control and screen on Manticore.
