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Which Tank should you play in Final Fantasy XIV (Shadowbringers) 

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@bamjam1
@bamjam1 4 года назад
I started playing this game 2 weeks ago and rolled a gladiator to become a paladin later and i must say as a new player learning to tank the dungeons this game is really amazing. When i played wow i would get alot of heat from random internet nerds for being a new tank. In ff14 i start a new dungeon, say im new and ppl guide me trough it and tell me what to do its amazing,
@Starkid527
@Starkid527 4 года назад
Oh, i’m exactly in your case ! What’s your ID?
@skyesfury8511
@skyesfury8511 4 года назад
This is why FFXIV has taken the top spot for reputation in the mmo community. And, as of March 2020, the community still strongly condemns rude and foul behavior in casual/leveling content. It's not until you get into the more serious raid scene that toxicity starts really becoming common. But I would expect that in any mmo's raid scene as competitive personalities tend to also have little tolerance for newbish mistakes. That's also why I don't raid anymore, I just don't want to deal with that type of play anymore. But, with a good guild (known as "free company" in this game), you can still do most Savage and EX content, you just might have to wait until it's no longer current content.
@michaelmichaelagnew8503
@michaelmichaelagnew8503 4 года назад
Been tanking in this game since 1.0, the community in this game compared to wow is allot more mature. You will run into groups every once in a while where you have toxic jerks that will kick you if you dont tank exactly how they want you, or will kick you for not zerging through everything. Those kids are rare and most probably left the game to play wow classic since that community is probably more up their alley. They try to act elitist but most are just dumb kids who have no patients and only care about themselfs. Think ive been only kicked from the group as a tank maybe 3 time in the past 8 years. All the kicks are when i was gone for a while, picking the class back up and getting unlucky with a toxic retarded group that only cared about themselves and wanted a zerg run in a dungeon. Good thing in this game they are extremely rare.
@DotHacker99
@DotHacker99 4 года назад
I'm starting tonight. Only played DOMO ehich I'm sure is way different than WOW. Excited to support and play in general.
@ENGRtube
@ENGRtube 4 года назад
People are like that in FF14 too lol, same situation. I'm learning how to tank and nearly every new dungeon I go in through the duty finder there is some ass hat healer or DPS shitting on me for the most stupid reasons, like watching a cutscene or reading my map so I know where to go lol I actually have LESS toxicity in WoW believe it or not. Still like the game though but you need to remember there are assholes in every online game, they arent exclusive to a single game.
@azael1633
@azael1633 4 года назад
Thanks to your chanel I started to main tanks. I can't stress enough the appreciation of your WoW skill references during some abilities explanations. Keep up the good work !
@DesperiusFFXIV
@DesperiusFFXIV 4 года назад
I will, thank you !
@forgottenesper
@forgottenesper 4 года назад
The GNB and WAR parts felt quite rushed in opposition to the PLD and DRK. It's not really a fair comparison when you focus on your favourites much more ):
@Squallcloud95
@Squallcloud95 4 года назад
I think it wasn't supposed to be fair as said at the start of the video.
@felipeferrao7905
@felipeferrao7905 4 года назад
Felt the same.
@smellmyclock
@smellmyclock 4 года назад
He literally says it’s his opinion at the start, and that you shouldn’t use his opinion to dissuade you from choosing your favorite class lol
@CydonianKnights11
@CydonianKnights11 3 года назад
io dont care what he says i love my GNB the gunblade is my favorite weapon period since ff8.
@Aftau
@Aftau 3 года назад
this video shouldve been titled: paladin or dark knight. oh and heres two others idk
@tromlui7
@tromlui7 4 года назад
Honestly, as a Gnb main, I feel like you've missed the point of a lot of our kit. It's cool that you aren't as big a fan, or that you prefer having more solid and obvious defensive options, but you draw some unfair comparisons (like aurora vs. clemency) when they aren't really meant to fill the same role in the kit. Aurora is more akin to a fast-recharge secondary defensive cooldown / enmity generator for large pulls than it is an emergency heal tool. And the biggest sell to a lot of the gunbreaker's defensive tools is specifically that it doesn't consume their resources to use them -- a Drk has to spend MP for their TBN, and a Paladin spends MP that could be used for offense for Clemency. But a Gnb can Heart of Stone + Aurora a healer through a raidbuster without interrupting their rotation or expending any offensive resources. There are merits to both, and that's why there are generally two tank slots in a raid -- having two overly defensive tanks is a detriment to the group overall. It's not about comparing which tank has the -best- version of X feature -- it's a lot more about how those features work together towards the end goal.
@grandpharaoh5600
@grandpharaoh5600 4 года назад
This made me respect GNB a whole lot more. -Paladin Main
@silvera-00
@silvera-00 4 года назад
Well. People don't take GNB in for world first clears. The hole "best tank" comes too close when you talk about dps. At the end of the day it comes to having a good blend of both. GNB are just squishy and imo in the case of tanks, I'd rather use a tank that I know has good survivability and dps.
@Lowlight23
@Lowlight23 4 года назад
I love the ending on this video. Good choice at voiceover to the visual. 😁
@xDrim09
@xDrim09 4 года назад
Recently started playing FFXIV after giving up on WoW. Love your videos, keep up the great work 👍
@toshihitsu1989
@toshihitsu1989 4 года назад
Just started watching your videos and love them been playing ffxiv for over 4 5 years. And I tended to play Pld and white mage just max level my PLD the other day.
@Fade2BlackSS
@Fade2BlackSS 4 года назад
I started really playing FFXIV when 3.0 was released for the DRK. But I just can't get into the recent iteration of the job. I have all of the tanks leveled to 80 but WAR is my go to. I can appreciate how simple yet hard-hitting the job is. Hearing the sound of the guaranted Direct Hits with Infuriate and Inner Release as you tear through groups of enemies is SUPER satisfying and the job's self-healing is pretty nice too with Equilibrium and Nascent Flash. Not having to manage DoTs or have to worry about button bloat is a huge thing for me as well. My only complaint is the fact that there is a little bit of down time while waiting for the burst phase cool-down.
@commentsforthealgorithm
@commentsforthealgorithm 4 года назад
"Listen to your parents, they might have good advice" You dont know how true that is my friend XD My mom runs our FC
@xanderbriggs2794
@xanderbriggs2794 3 года назад
My dad isn't the owner of my fc, but he is the highest rank that is active often, so he "runs" my fc
@cjrulem
@cjrulem 4 года назад
Thanks for the info, Dad!
@markdavenportjr5129
@markdavenportjr5129 4 года назад
excellent guide Im enjoying both dark knight and gun breaker so far. :)
@rizwaanansari8526
@rizwaanansari8526 4 года назад
What is that timer on the bottom left corner in HUD. It's like telling what ability you need to do next?
@619ver1
@619ver1 4 года назад
Okay, you are a very different kind of player then me. I hate it when i have to click 20 buttons at once >.
@bsmall1412
@bsmall1412 3 года назад
Especially when one is switching from PC to controller play LOL.
@ladydarkangelyuki
@ladydarkangelyuki 4 года назад
in eden verse pld does have uptime oportunity that the other tanks don't have because of requiescat, holy spirit & confiteor, in e5s as the ot that window makes it easier to go fetch orbs compared to the other tanks who at best can use their gap closer to extend the distance they can fetch orbs at, in e6s if you save or time that window into the conflag mechanic, you can keep high dps while soaking fire nado instead of being stuck only using the 1 range attack the other tanks have, in e7s you don't really get too major an advantage other then being able to pull the add faster while keeping uptime tho to arguable results, in my current progress of e8s that window helps a smidge with diamond frost but helps a lot with light rampant where if you get an orb other tanks would loose a lot of uptime depending on the strat while you can just do orb mechanic while still hitting the boss the entire time. Do mind other tanks do have advantages in other area but as a pld 1 trick pony, this is what I see.
@JihoonJKim
@JihoonJKim 4 года назад
GNB is less singe time mitigation, but constant regen / lower mitigations. Throughout a fight, that can mean more dps windows for your healers just cause of how relatively stable their hp will stay whilst other tanks will fluctuate inbetween busters / downtime of CDs. It's definitely less straightforward and takes more gusto from both healer and tank player to play, but when understood fully, offers so much uptime for both utility roles.
@jonathanhunter7670
@jonathanhunter7670 4 года назад
God i love this game so much that even if i don't agree with the uploader i just wanna be a part of it either way 😁 awesoke video 😁
@Zerosenpai25
@Zerosenpai25 4 года назад
Tbn is like the best skill in the whole damn game. I remember having like 3 vuln stacks getting it by a tank buster and it looked like I got hit by the bust as if I didn't had those vuln stack at all
@Joshua-xh6bm
@Joshua-xh6bm 4 года назад
Best tank cooldown? Sure, although Heart of Stone comes in at a close second for me because it's free. But for me the best skill in the whole game goes to Assize. It's so wonderful.
@anexplosion5436
@anexplosion5436 4 года назад
TBN is the best for off-tanking thats for sure.
@Exel3nce
@Exel3nce 4 года назад
How can you even remember the Name of skills ...
@T8-TR
@T8-TR 4 года назад
@@Exel3nce When you main a class for hundreds of hours, it's not that hard. Even the more obscure (for someone that isn't Japanese, that is) names on SAM can become pretty easy if you play it for long enough.
@Exel3nce
@Exel3nce 4 года назад
@@T8-TR i know what my skills do but i never even looked at the names^^
4 года назад
Paladin and Dark knight are my favorite tanks at the moment too.(because of how their abilities look, their weapons, and because of their defensive tools) I think they are the strongest tanks at the moment as well but gunbreaker seems good too and warrior isn't bad either.
@tkYenzo
@tkYenzo 4 года назад
Great vid! can you do the same vid but for dps?
@DragonoftheDarknessFlame
@DragonoftheDarknessFlame 4 года назад
For me Gunbreaker is the most fun. Square did a good job fulfilling the Gunblade fantasy and their opening feels amazing
@accelerator8558
@accelerator8558 4 года назад
Thats Squal Lioheart for ya
@T8-TR
@T8-TR 4 года назад
GNB and DRK are definitely the most fun, imo. GNB is better, imo, since you don't need to delve into your own crazy rotations to hit its intended playstyle. The cartridge combo is gonna be really fun to use regardless of if you're using a proper opener or not. DRK, on the other hand, is only REALLY fun if you use the intended opener, with spamming plenty of Edge, which is probably not intended, since you only need to use it twice to max out your Darkside timer for 60 seconds.
@PowerfulSkeleton
@PowerfulSkeleton 4 года назад
@@T8-TR Of course blasting Edge is intended. Darkside isn't even really a mechanic you should be be thinking about any more.
@touchthebacon5447
@touchthebacon5447 3 года назад
It's so great that all the tanks are in a very good place unlike in the past where PLD was avoided for the most part. Recently I've picked up DRK and having a blast.
@WisecrackJax
@WisecrackJax 4 года назад
Personally, I think tanks’ rotations should be on the simpler side so that the defensive cooldowns can be weaved more easily, since that’s their purpose. That’s why I stick to WAR, which is simple in rotation but complicated in optimization, and PLD, which is just amazing all around.
@ardentdfender4116
@ardentdfender4116 3 года назад
Tanked in WoW for over a decade plus as a Righteous Paladin. Just started playing the game and yeah i'm playing one here too as a Tank. Fun times ahead with a decade plus of Tanking experience. Making just a little impact on the queue times when i'm on.
@matthewpelletier6900
@matthewpelletier6900 3 года назад
I've been away from the game for a few years and am getting back into it now. Mid 60s right now, mainly SMN with some SCH for those queue times. I want to learn to tank but I'm not interested in starting back at LVL 1. Probably just push through until I can get GNB, I love me some Squall and Lightning.
@Randsel
@Randsel 4 года назад
Pretty nice when a class type is so balanced that all options are viable and provide different play styles different ways of getting the job done.
@EdumBot
@EdumBot 4 года назад
Huh. Didn't think I'd see my character in a random video. RDM around 5:40 with the Murgleis Anemos glamour.
@grandpharaoh5600
@grandpharaoh5600 4 года назад
Puttin in work m8
@muatring
@muatring 3 года назад
How do i see the DPS of the party like the one in the video?
@duanelewis3268
@duanelewis3268 3 года назад
That Final Fantasy Tactic musical score 🎼 😌😌
@RyanHarris77
@RyanHarris77 4 года назад
Cast divine veil during countdown, watch it expire after pull, cry.
@SubduedRadical
@SubduedRadical 4 года назад
That's the beauty of it, though: You can cast a heal on yourself with Clemency if you need to (or on someone else - I'm pretty sure the 50% heal it gives you when you cast it triggers DV)
@RyanHarris77
@RyanHarris77 4 года назад
I’m not casting clemency on myself right after pull to trigger divine veil. The potency loss while raid buffs are up isn’t worth it. If the healers don’t want the help for the first raidwide that’s on them.
@SubduedRadical
@SubduedRadical 4 года назад
@@RyanHarris77 You...realize you can cast it BEFORE the pull....right?
@RyanHarris77
@RyanHarris77 4 года назад
SubduedRadical not going to happen with the rest of my prepull routine. There’s no reason to burn 4K mp prepull (2k for clemency then 2k for holy spirit at -2 seconds) especially if I’m using the req opener since I need to have at least 8k mp less than 8 seconds into the fight.
@PKDeviluke25
@PKDeviluke25 4 года назад
Hallowed Ground is so satisfying to use.
@RyanHarris77
@RyanHarris77 4 года назад
I love using it and still dying. Somehow I've managed on numerous occasions to use hg after the damage snapshot but before I actually die, so I end up dead from lethal damage and hg is on cd.
@PatriotArro
@PatriotArro 4 года назад
@@RyanHarris77 it's so easy to do on just about every tank invuln if you aren't careful tbh. I've learned to use it slightly before I think I need it for that reason.
@CobaltDysprosium
@CobaltDysprosium 4 года назад
No matter what I get super into, I always fall back to WAR. That being said... I almost have my PLD at 80 (79) and it's been very enjoyable. Might use it as my secondary. I jump around between all of my tanks though. Just whatever I'm feeling.
@grandpharaoh5600
@grandpharaoh5600 4 года назад
It's just a tank thing. 👑
@irtelam1
@irtelam1 4 года назад
Only problem I have warrior is that, you need to have seperate gear for it if you wanna play other tanks aswell. Other 3 more or less can share the same gear with some different food buffs, but warrior needs it own thing.
@CobaltDysprosium
@CobaltDysprosium 4 года назад
@@irtelam1 Eh, you can just meld for DET instead of DH and only be minorly suboptimal on other jobs. It's not that big of a difference.
@antonrepkin9020
@antonrepkin9020 4 года назад
War have a huge pro - it is a fucking WARRIOR, with huge ass AXE, with FIRE farting out of all orifices, and FELL CLEAVE. it is just unparalleled awesomeness. ;)
@MrKasiitis
@MrKasiitis 4 года назад
Out of my raid group in casual situations like extremes or experts as a main healer personaly prefer healing any other tank than paladin. From my experience PLD for some reason takes really a lot dmg from double or triple trash packs. Hallow Ground and Clemency is cool but first have super long cd and 2nd rarely is used.
@mastercats
@mastercats 4 года назад
Paladin does take Abit more damage in these situations as they can't scale to it very well. Drk has tbn that is already really strong and while it doesn't scale it is a noticeable ~5 seconds whee they take no damage. While abyssal drain can be like a personal benediction if used well. Warriors nasant flash scales very well against content and is a slightly better version of TBN in big trash pulls letting them lock thier health bar for about 5 seconds. Gun breaker has that camo skill which actually make a decent difference in content along with aura access for a 2nd Regen dot that's comes up about every pull. Paladins on the other hand don't get anything extra in a big pull. Infact they lose the chance to realisticly use clemancy at all. Both of thier grp damage protection skills don't work on themselves, and sheltron doesn't go far enough.
@ladydarkangelyuki
@ladydarkangelyuki 4 года назад
As a pld when doing dungeon I only use hg on multi-pull since I don't need more then sheltron for bosses, otherwise I typically rely on sentinel, rampart, sheltron, reprisal to cut my damage from multi-pull to decent success if my healer can keep up in regards to clemency i actually sparingly use it only if i'm in my requiescat window with no other form of mitigation going for 1 / 2 clemency 2 / 4 holy circle & confiteor. When I say if my healer can keep up, do mind the only healers I've seen have issue are those who are severely undergeared, don't know their job well or both.
@ladydarkangelyuki
@ladydarkangelyuki 4 года назад
@@RazLegends-dc5cm pld is very vanilla at 50 and under, the kit get's better later on.
@nxkakashi
@nxkakashi 4 года назад
I recently came back to XIV, i was wondering if you think that an old Main PLD would play well on a Gunbreaker, i'm so used to all the mitigation PLD had, if that's relevant, i was main pld back when we were working on Alexander, i was the MT there, after that i changed to dps on the next expansions so i have no idea how tanks are, and i kinda want to try something new but i don't want to feel like ''oh, this tank do dps but damn, almost no mitigation'' i still want to go to dungeons, do a big pull and survive, any tips on that? or should i just stick to the good old pld?
@CT-gh2vm
@CT-gh2vm 3 года назад
Gunbreaker can mitigate just as well
@sergel02
@sergel02 4 года назад
PLD was my main before Shb but I felt button bloat was getting to me, GNB has the same issue. Loving DRK so far though.
@TheSSdragon
@TheSSdragon 3 года назад
With all of the effects turned off it looks like a dance party is going down
@ernstwulle1520
@ernstwulle1520 4 года назад
gibt es das video auch auf deutsch ?
@bsmall1412
@bsmall1412 3 года назад
I am use to playing MMO’s on a PC, but have been playing this game on PS5. So controller play with lots of abilities has been a bit rough. I am looking for a good beginner tank, with a simple rotation that I can be effective at as a casual player. All signs point to the Paladin, but DK seems so much more fun, but less forgiving... Nice guide.
@CT-gh2vm
@CT-gh2vm 3 года назад
War or paladin
@vince7230
@vince7230 3 года назад
i need to say that you have an amazing understanding of the game, i main DK However with current meta. " i hate meta" but, i had to switch to PLD and GNB for 5.4 savages,,for some reason PLD and GNB are two most optimal gay couple for current raid meta.as PLD has on par with DRK mitigation while doing second highest dmg among all tanks, GNB does the highest dmg while can be sharin regen and clemency from PLD for lack of mitigation ..
@leonardceres9061
@leonardceres9061 4 года назад
I wanted to love Dark Knight as it was my main in FFXI. I played Dark Knight type chars since my Everquest days with Shadow Knight. But I’ve found a lot of issue with the Drk in FFXIV. For one they are in a weird place. They don’t have as much mitigation as a PLD nor as much DMG. Also this kinda goes into a whole other area I take umbrage with is the way the game is set up. You don’t get your full kit until max level but even when you do it’s only viable for lvl 80 content and beyond. Or solo content which really isn’t ever a good litmus test. Even so let’s look at some of the abilities. One single target that increases your attack power by a small margin. There is also an AoE version which only does marginally less damage than its single player counterpart. Hardly worth a distinction between the two. You really don’t have many life tapping abilities prior to lvl 80. A warrior arguably has better self sustain. So it begs the question what is the actual class identity of a DRK ? Edgy looking armor and attack animations? The common conception is that DArk Knights have superior magical mitigation. Why is this even a thing ? Because they have the Dark Mind self buff which really isn’t all that great . So GNB have better DPS. War has better self sustain. To me DRK should have been more of the selfish Tank. They should be amongst the top DPS by a decent margin to the other tanks and be able to sustain themselves with more life Tap abilities baked into more of their abilities. They wouldn’t add much to the raid but that’s the whole point. Even the Dark Knight Quests back up this whole selfish warrior identity. Right now just seems like most people “Want” to play DRK for the look and feel” Rather than anything else. Sure there are those that like it because like the paladin it has a pretty easy rotation. The biggest complaints I’ve heard about the gun breaker is that even though it does more damage it has more button press is required so that turns off a number of players who just want an easier time of tanking. But that shouldn’t be the main draw to why people pitch dark Knight over gun breaker or any other tank. The fact their huge weapons ultimately lead them to do less Damage means those colossal great swords are more for show than anything else. Sure all things equal we aren’t seeing a huge gap in the parses but it’s the principle of the thing.
@lionelvenes6148
@lionelvenes6148 4 года назад
Any changes as of now? I’d really love to see Drk in a better spot.
@leonardceres9061
@leonardceres9061 4 года назад
Lionel Venes all these observations I’ve made at the current state of things in the game. Before patch 5.3. As mentioned one of my biggest gripes is the way the level Syncing works in this game. It basically rolls back your whole character to an earlier time and you have to unlearn your current rotation. No other game does it that way. There was no need for Square to reinvent the wheel here. Just sync characters level and stats only. That said as other content creators have mentioned any content can be cleared by any class. But if you do run parses and are somewhat competitive then by comparison you’ll see some of the other points I mention about DPS and self healing not being what they should for a class where those are supposed to be the defining characteristic.
@salemsaberhagen8390
@salemsaberhagen8390 3 года назад
still super sad drk is not a dps like in ffxi as it was also my main then, such a waste.
@itkovian11
@itkovian11 4 года назад
I'm still pretty new and was wondering what program you're using to track dps?
@CobaltDysprosium
@CobaltDysprosium 4 года назад
It's ACT (advanced combat tracker). I believe he also has a video on how to set it up.
@itkovian11
@itkovian11 4 года назад
@@CobaltDysprosium Thank you!
@eambyenostale2480
@eambyenostale2480 4 года назад
Ok! I'm looking forward to Paladin, but because of these shields and swords, what is yours weapons (Paladin) on videos please? :D
@DesperiusFFXIV
@DesperiusFFXIV 4 года назад
Its the Sword and Shield of the round, bought on the market board or crafted by Blacksmith
@eambyenostale2480
@eambyenostale2480 4 года назад
@@DesperiusFFXIV Okay, really thank you for your videos, just hitted 70 with my pld and got Endless expanse sword and shield, with dreadwyrms replicas dyed pure white, really cool, still my first tank and I have to remember more mechanics what to do in dungeons :D
@NyxxNovaVT
@NyxxNovaVT 4 года назад
Using WoW Terms really helped me grasp some of the usage of FF
@JustRunAround
@JustRunAround 4 года назад
What's that green axe used your warrior called? Can't remember seeing it?
@DesperiusFFXIV
@DesperiusFFXIV 4 года назад
Its the shinryu axe, added recently in patch 5.2
@maciiiiiiiiiii
@maciiiiiiiiiii 4 года назад
you can even get the non-glowing version in Shinryu-EX ;)
@nicky7458
@nicky7458 4 года назад
U rly put that picture of Zenos that makes me dry in woww
@LordCullBot
@LordCullBot 3 года назад
I can't decide between DRK or WAR they both seem fun to me.
@oblivion.walker
@oblivion.walker 2 года назад
War is Better But Drk is Cooler
@Thoros89
@Thoros89 4 года назад
schade das du es nicht auf deutsch noch gemacht hast sonst sehr interresant und vielen dank jedenfalls für dieses und die anderen videos.
@Sugar-bz5np
@Sugar-bz5np 4 года назад
WAR and DRK forever. I like smacking things with massive weapons. And inner release/living shadow are just so damn cool
@tatersalad76
@tatersalad76 4 года назад
Why does the class with a shield and longsword do more damage than the class with a great sword and a great axe? Explain SE
@accelerator8558
@accelerator8558 4 года назад
SE : Because i don't know.....fuck it!!! Well i need to test the other 2
@Exel3nce
@Exel3nce 4 года назад
It doesnt
@Jake-cp4wb
@Jake-cp4wb 4 года назад
It does. In buff heavy comps drk can more or less do the same dmg but gnb is always the highest and war always the lowest.
@stupidregistration
@stupidregistration 4 года назад
Potato King Well... magic 😜
@accelerator8558
@accelerator8558 4 года назад
Me main on the previews was a paladín and......i am love whit me paladín class
@luckygaming6687
@luckygaming6687 4 года назад
How can u see everyones dps and so on ?
@immanuel94
@immanuel94 3 года назад
DPS meter. He has guide to set one up here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-yWNRCHdu328.html Only available for PC users. Don’t know of any console ones.
@korev0x949
@korev0x949 4 года назад
We want to look at our tanki, errr our 4 new dps jobs in 5.0-5.2
@PriceAintRight
@PriceAintRight 3 года назад
Yeah. I'm not an excessive amount of buttons person. I play Monk, but I would never in my life play Ninja. I'm never really at risk of ruining an entire attack lmao. I think I'll try Paladin though. You made it sound simple, let's see if I suck at I later today 🤣🤣
@bsmall1412
@bsmall1412 3 года назад
Let me know! How was it? I just started a playing a week ago and am trying to decide what tank to learn/play.
@inquity6
@inquity6 3 года назад
you click your skills?
@eisenstein99
@eisenstein99 4 года назад
According to the thumbnail, it’s GNB. Case closed.
@Silverwind770
@Silverwind770 4 года назад
I really...REALLY miss Scourge for DRK
@Tenel
@Tenel 4 года назад
THIS !!!
@T8-TR
@T8-TR 4 года назад
Scourge, old Delirium, Power Slash. Square, please give me my cool ass animations back. Syphon Strike and Soul Eater are so boring to look at.
@Vill-N-E
@Vill-N-E 4 года назад
@@T8-TR Dark Arts was bad ass too. ;[
@miqotesoulia8620
@miqotesoulia8620 4 года назад
theres always a few ppl that remember that skill. Man it was such a sick animation and sound when you used it. RIP
@mlemlemmlemmlem
@mlemlemmlemmlem 4 года назад
Shit I miss combos in general 😂
@MunitionsDudTester
@MunitionsDudTester 4 года назад
I like all the tanks equally except for Warrior. I pretty much mained WAR in Stormblood and enjoyed it, but for some reason I'm just not digging it anymore.
@DreamHachi
@DreamHachi 4 года назад
Which to play? I say all of them.
@KidDynamite22
@KidDynamite22 4 года назад
I'm only levelling my Pally now so this is a non question not an opinion but the Paladin's sustainability seems to naturally be a bit lower than the others no? I know you get the shield and so extra block chance but there's no healing or mitigation in your basic combo at all? Warrior and DRK both have a decent chunk of HP gain in their last hit and GBR has a small heal and a small shield on their second. PLD has neither and yet seems to be favoured for sustain? I realise it's a fairly moot point in group content where your healers keep you topped up but I just found it strange. (I also realise you have clemency but that's an overall DPS loss and even then WAR gets equilibrium). Like I said not an opinion, it's a genuine question, am I missing something or is it more of a big picture thing?
@KidDynamite22
@KidDynamite22 4 года назад
Heya, yeh I agree on all the above, like you said, was weeks ago, since then Pally has become pretty much my main tank, love it, and yep Clemency is amazing, the shield helps a lot nevermind its myriad of other cool downs and its actual offensive skills are all impactful, either high burst or heavy dots.
@janlanda7968
@janlanda7968 4 года назад
so i asked my parents which tank to play and they r like wtf...
@sdhetan3hetsa
@sdhetan3hetsa 4 года назад
lol
@Wolfdoggie
@Wolfdoggie 3 года назад
I've only played since last summer and wonder why Overpower has existed in such a form for so long? Shoulda been updated long before innocent 2020 newbies witnessed such a thing. D:
@77hellsing
@77hellsing 4 года назад
who's healer no 3?
@maciiiiiiiiiii
@maciiiiiiiiiii 4 года назад
WAR in the best case :D
@damir_van_kalaz
@damir_van_kalaz 4 года назад
I like how when it came to GNB, he compared Aurora to Clemency, and HoS to TBN, both of which are slightly weaker because they're FREE and do not interrupt GNB at all to use, but then completely skipped over comparisons that are much more in GNB's favor like Camouflage vs Dark Mind. Not to mention ignored the really impressive AoE damage GNB can put out if you just do No Mercy > Demon Slice > Bow Shock > 2x Fated Circle > Demon Slaughter > Fated Circle > Bloodfest > 2x Fated Circle. The bias is strong. DRK is great, so is PLD, but this video almost makes GNB sound like it's just "the tank for people who don't know how good DRK and PLD are yet", which couldn't be further from the case. It creates the wrong impression of GNB, and that just leads to some people disrespecting those who play it because those people think they've gotten partied up with an inferior tank class when they haven't.
@DesperiusFFXIV
@DesperiusFFXIV 4 года назад
I am sorry, I am really biased and failed my positivity and neutral standpoint for GNB. I will make an updated version soon where I will try to emphasize people for the Gunbreaker.
@a.z.pantera5577
@a.z.pantera5577 4 года назад
We all make very good points for our favorite tank, but those points are rendered invalid when we now have gunblades which are such a dumb weapon they circle right back around to being cool.
@emeraldo
@emeraldo 3 года назад
I love that 40% of this video is DRK. :)
@SrBlacken
@SrBlacken 4 года назад
Dragoon obviously
@doomdeathxx
@doomdeathxx 4 года назад
6:28 healer no5, red mage is still in part white mage, healing without MUCH mp cost like clemency and can res people, yeah, he gets the healer no4. not PLD
@LhasaThailand
@LhasaThailand 4 года назад
So i played this game since it released and loved it, unfortunately had to quit before a real reborn even released. Now fast forward several years later, i find myself in a position where i have the time to pick up an MMO again and really sink my teeth in again. Looking forward to nolifing in this game again. - Get rid of the wife - Find a job that allows alot of free time I win once again after taking massive L's for the past 8 years.... See you lot in Eorzea. ^^
@theazuredemon4854
@theazuredemon4854 4 года назад
I have a bias against WAR mostly because of things that should belong on DRK, and I will hate Living Shadow so long as it is a "Summon Demi-Bahamut" mechanic, and this is what really turned me away from DRK because once you activate the "Summon Demi-Bahamut" mechanic as soon as the boss becomes un-targetable then you wasted a total of 2400 potency and 50 Blood Gauge, and no amount of TBNs will get that back... you might as well run into Arena Edge-Kun or Death Wall-chan once you waste Living Shadow... PLD however is a good secondary tank to have once you have enough practice with it but really shines(pun intended) in the hands of a skilled player who can save dungeons boss fights from being total wipes(though the same could be said for WAR but with Nascent Flash but WAR needs another DPS alive for that to work which is why I believe DRK should be more Blood DK of FF14 over WAR) unless the boss is doing too much damage for the PLD to keep up with healing through said damage... And now for bias for how fun GNB is for level 70 and beyond... 1 word: Continuation... that's all I need to say how fun GNB truly is... but only at level 70 and beyond... before then is a slog mostly because of no Continuation... and if you sync down to where you do not even have your level 60 combo, you will need to improvise on the fun for single target...
@DesperiusFFXIV
@DesperiusFFXIV 4 года назад
I hate GNB below seventy, its truely a disaster
@theazuredemon4854
@theazuredemon4854 4 года назад
@@DesperiusFFXIV Let me guess; no Continuation?
@saladv3028
@saladv3028 4 года назад
Only reason i prefer war is because of the cone aoe, it's easier for me to position mobs
@Jacki799
@Jacki799 4 года назад
lol i hate the cone aoe cus i always miss one side of mobs on a pack
@fernandozanartu4354
@fernandozanartu4354 4 года назад
dude, PLZ repeat dps rotacion with bard ILVL 480, im main bard i love your videos and you bard plzzzz
@Frosth15
@Frosth15 4 года назад
Got my War to 80 today. First was Gun. Tanking is the best for me, it’s the only role I’ve played 🥰
@maciiiiiiiiiii
@maciiiiiiiiiii 4 года назад
you should definitly start to play melee DPS and healers from time to time ;) trust me it will 100% help you to be even better at tanking as you'll get a better understanding of how to position bosses, trash, etc better or how and when to use your mitigation tools more efficent😉
@grandpharaoh5600
@grandpharaoh5600 4 года назад
@@maciiiiiiiiiii Thanks for that.
@grandpharaoh5600
@grandpharaoh5600 4 года назад
Same here.
@biiQar
@biiQar 4 года назад
So which i should go on my next tank? Paladin or warrior? Ughhhhhh help me pls..
@Edelweiss487
@Edelweiss487 4 года назад
I say go with paladin. They're pretty good and fulfill that magical knight fantasy. Their rotations is straight forward as well since you're rotating between FoF and magical phases with no downtime
@CobaltDysprosium
@CobaltDysprosium 4 года назад
That depends. Do you like do combo or big number?
@JustSkram
@JustSkram 4 года назад
Warrior. Everyone and their mom is paladin
@tatersalad76
@tatersalad76 4 года назад
Warrior, because you get to swing a big "fuck off" axe and the kit is a lot of fun. I got my PAL up to 80 and it's just not nearly as fun as WAR for me
@biiQar
@biiQar 4 года назад
Thnx for the heads up everyone.. 😘
@sbmlingo6841
@sbmlingo6841 3 года назад
I hope tanks mechanics get harder in EW and see some burst damage on paladins why not but yeah Dk and Pal are super good
@Kozutsami
@Kozutsami 3 года назад
Good thing they changed nacent flash so you don’t need party members anymore
@pinkvomit123
@pinkvomit123 3 года назад
I just need a tank that’s simple to play, I’m not good at doing multiple things at the same time XD
@kalamander8563
@kalamander8563 3 года назад
Then I'd say go WAR. Once you're past the initial rotation the only things you really have to worry about is hitting your Cooldowns when needed, keep Storm's Eye up, and remember not to pop infuriate during inner release.
@bsmall1412
@bsmall1412 3 года назад
Same, LOL. I was hoping this comment would have more responses. I want to try DK as it seems fun, but Paladin seems more forgiving of errors.
@bsmall1412
@bsmall1412 3 года назад
@@kalamander8563 Is it really that simple? I am being serious here. Simple is great, but if survivability is trash, I don’t mind mashing a few other buttons.
@NoBrainah
@NoBrainah 3 года назад
@@bsmall1412 try DRK if that’s what you want. Even if it’s a little harder you will be more inclined to play it because you like it
@bsmall1412
@bsmall1412 3 года назад
@@NoBrainah Eventually it is what I did and I have had a fantastic time and I am really enjoying. I don't mind tanking and the anxiety of tanking is gone. The DRK suites my play style although I wish it had a bit more self healing. However, in the end the class seems to be a in a good spot.
@254171275fb
@254171275fb 4 года назад
They all good because their all Ballanced
@rexcyjones9416
@rexcyjones9416 2 года назад
Why tank as warr: Basically ur an angry hungry beast. You devour the flesh and drink the blood of your enemies while you chop them up to pieces.
@Staineless84
@Staineless84 4 года назад
You're kinda biased dude. I like your videos but you ignore vast swathes of information on the tanks you don't like or completely misrepresent them. GNB has nothing like Hallowed Ground? Really? Cos it has something pretty similar, a little weaker but 60 seconds off the CD is very valuable. Nothing like TBN? That's fair, TBN is amazing but you said yourself it has downsides of not popping which costs you damage, HoS has none of that. What about WAR? It has the best suite of personal CDs overall in the game, with Vengeance, Rampart, Thrill, RI, NF and Equilibrium while also having the best invuln skill, Holmgang. No matter how good Hallowed Ground is, WAR will almost have it's third use up by the time you have your second. You also skate over downsides of DRK and PLD. PLD has the weakest personal CD set and while it's support CDs are the strongest they are almost all very finicky, the wings need to be aimed and timed flawlessly to have any good effect mid combat and divine veil just doesn't get procced sometimes. DRK has the terrible Living Dead, which has an awful condition on it which makes uses cost raid damage outside having a WHM and even with one you lock down their most valuable solo heal resource. I don't know man, I think if you're gonna make a vid like this, at least provide all the information and not just cherry picked stuff.
@longfire312
@longfire312 4 года назад
Why no mention of floor tank D:
@bloodcarver913
@bloodcarver913 4 года назад
DRK for lyfe! EdgeLord ftw! ;D
@imeldomarcos4126
@imeldomarcos4126 4 года назад
Hallowed ground is op.
@oriain81
@oriain81 4 года назад
The best tank is the one you can master. So its Dark Knight then!
@GunGrave112985
@GunGrave112985 4 года назад
9:23, 2b is best tank.
@SpaceElvisInc
@SpaceElvisInc 4 года назад
Nascent Flash should get the dragon sight treatment and not required a target to work, like I got a macro set up for mine but when soloing old fights and when you aren't in a party it would be nice, also make onslaught free and have 2 charges like all the other fucking tank gap closers it's so fucking dumb
@Jacki799
@Jacki799 4 года назад
yea 100% with you on this and its like 100 potency too like wtf just removed already if ur not reworking it
@lucanastral735
@lucanastral735 4 года назад
It's also half the potency of all other tank gap closers. It's as if they hate the warrior class.
@snowblade7669
@snowblade7669 4 года назад
I'm a tank main not a class main and I still feel that paliden is broken just because of clemency. No tank should have a heal thats in par with whm cure 2. In a light party if the dps and healer dies, I can still kill the boss all by myself with the correct rotation. No tank should be able to heal like that. Only dark and gun seem balanced in there own right. Wars crit window is way to long and needs adjustment.
@ApocryphalSaint
@ApocryphalSaint 4 года назад
not too mention their damage output for being a passive tanker is too high IMO. Based just alone on the class archetypes it should be at the bottom, not inching close to the top against GNB who by and large gives healers and themselves a harder time in savage content in return for their good dps than any other Tank.
@cruzeal9334
@cruzeal9334 4 года назад
Paladin ❤
@puffin-onehandedgamer1164
@puffin-onehandedgamer1164 4 года назад
I'm told the warrior is the easiest to play, is this true?
@totallynotnox8322
@totallynotnox8322 4 года назад
Yes
@BrandonMart1011
@BrandonMart1011 4 года назад
put in perspective, im a tanking noob, i really only do it for quick queues for tomes and such and im able to do it lol really easy
@ApocryphalSaint
@ApocryphalSaint 4 года назад
I would disagree personally as someone with all tanks at 80. PLD-WAR-DRK/GNB
@nikependragon
@nikependragon 4 года назад
Please, simple terms! Optimized ultima? Reprisal? Dark missionary? Salted earth? Blackest night? @.@
@ace052330
@ace052330 4 года назад
I like how people with great and valid points point out the flaws and biased bullshit in this video with huge amounts of likes but get no reply at all. If you can’t make fair unbiased comparisons stop putting your garbage up. Also at least have the descent to reply to some of the people who have called this out.
@Ragingsystem
@Ragingsystem 4 года назад
Look I know this is an old video but man you putting spoilers in this Tank Guide is kinda bad form :/
@HeavyMetalLink05
@HeavyMetalLink05 4 года назад
I loved DRK in Stormblood but I HATE it in Shadowbringers. It feels so handicapped compared to other Tanks. It's damage is crap, it has no useful amounts of sustain, and TBK is its only saving grace that you get punished for using outside trash pulls and tank busters while not being rewarded for using it properly. I dropped it for PLD and won't go back because PLD is objectively better in almost every situation
@Fade2BlackSS
@Fade2BlackSS 4 года назад
I'm kind of in the same boat. I started playing FFXIV specifically for DRK as it's been my favorite job in the whole series. I loved it in HW, liked it in SB and hate it in Shb. Damage is fine but it just feels very clunky to me having to manage MP. It desperately needs better self healing as well. Reducing Abyssal Drain to a 120sec CD really sucks. And while Soul Eater helps a bit, it can't be relied on like Clemency or Equilibrium. Even GBR's Aurora is helpful.
@Jake-cp4wb
@Jake-cp4wb 4 года назад
www.fflogs.com/zone/rankings/33#boss=72&metric=dps&class=Tanks&dpstype=pdps
@Jake-cp4wb
@Jake-cp4wb 4 года назад
Drk can be the second highest dps out of the tanks. And you can use tbn on autos depending on the fight. Basically anywhere autos do enough dmg to matter it can be used, just takes some practice I guess.
@Fade2BlackSS
@Fade2BlackSS 4 года назад
@@Jake-cp4wb That's the thing for me though. I could care less about the meta or how much damage a job does. If I'm not having fun with it, it's hard to me to play it.
@Jake-cp4wb
@Jake-cp4wb 4 года назад
@@Fade2BlackSS for sure. Fun is pretty subjective so go with what floats your boat. I was just responding to the op claiming it's dmg was crap. And it doesn't need a self heal. It's barely behind warrior defensively and much stronger than pld in that sense. I mean it all in a savage and ultimate context though. No one uses clemency in raids. If you did it would change that a bit.
@blairbrook1336
@blairbrook1336 4 года назад
Blue mage tank ftw!!
@muramasa1984
@muramasa1984 4 года назад
Its hard for me to take ur tanking seriously when u turn adds allover the place n face them to ur party members...
@damir_van_kalaz
@damir_van_kalaz 4 года назад
Rarely matters in most dungeons tbh. The only time it's really an issue is if you're facing bosses toward the party, otherwise it's whatever. Adds don't do tankbusters, and most AoEs are effortless to avoid. In many dungeons, you'll have to dodge AoEs anyway because there's adds that target the DPS and healer even while aggro'd to the tank.
@piconio
@piconio 4 года назад
The biggest issue that I have with pld is his style His animations from ARR are total trash like Riot Blade ;d His LB is aweful He is not comparable to GNB or DRK in terms of being stylish and being stylish is really important imo x)
@Exel3nce
@Exel3nce 4 года назад
S&s> big sword
@KokoKrunchs
@KokoKrunchs 4 года назад
Agree, Paladin animation skills are trash compare to other tank classes.
@ibrahimalhazmy2522
@ibrahimalhazmy2522 4 года назад
i only play edgelord DRK
@Swiftray
@Swiftray 4 года назад
12 minute Video - 4 tanks - talking 8 minutes about 2 tanks .... yep ....
@veiregor
@veiregor 4 года назад
Heart of stone is the better version of tbn. hallowed is the 2nd to worst of the tank invulns , after living dead, by having such a long cd. Gnb's kit is the second best in terms of defensive cds. And lastly war became clucky with the new infuriate effect. Some opinions from a tank main since 2.0
@92bricks
@92bricks 4 года назад
DRK needs more self heals.
@CobaltDysprosium
@CobaltDysprosium 4 года назад
I think DRK should act like a sap tank, slowly draining life from the enemies with a DoT. Thematically it works better. PLD utility tank with best strong cooldowns, WAR burst dps tank, GNB consistent DPS tank. It's so weird to me that the tank with the giant axe got relegated to being the one with the most defensive cooldowns and lowest DPS. WAR should be even with GNB while PLD should be lowest DPS and DRK slightly above it (having a giant sword...), but DRK and PLD should be tankiest due to shield and dark magic bolstering defenses. But in the end I value the job fantasy more than keeping things as even as possible I guess. The tanks are so homogeneous right now it's crazy.
@D-Havoc
@D-Havoc 4 года назад
@@CobaltDysprosium I really miss the _soft mitigation_ and high sustain that DRK had. In my opinion the defensive rankings from most strongest to weakest for the tanks should have been PLD > GNB > DRK > WAR. While the inverse goes for the increments of their HP and damage. Though I don't think SE purposefully made WAR and DRK's damage weaker than PLD and GNB on purpose, they just don't consider raid buffs and how Inner Release gets nothing from crit buffs and DH buffs, while DRK having heavy magic ocgd just goes largely ignored from weaponskill and physical damage buffs.
@jphourcheu
@jphourcheu 4 года назад
I feel you and I really want it too. As a DRK main I wish I could do more self heals too. However, if we to have more self heal and TBN, that would be unbalance. Assuming we getting more self heal, they might nerf TBN or make abysmal drain causing MP-which I happy compromise for. Definitely send message to developers. With enough request, they may change their mind but I don’t expect it to implement till next expansion.
@WisecrackJax
@WisecrackJax 4 года назад
Do DRK should have personal shields, self heals, and enormous damage? Get real. If anything, they should either self heal or have personal shields, and whichever you give it, WAR should get the other.
@D-Havoc
@D-Havoc 4 года назад
@@WisecrackJax I don't know where you got this assumption from since I said earlier that I liked when DRK used to have _soft mitigation_ e.i. that doesn't mean a thick shield that makes you choose between food (DPS) or water (mitigation) at a given time. Seriously, I don't understand why just one tank job would be delegated to just self heal and another personal shields. Sounds very stupid, limiting and lack flexibility for co-tank synergy. A spectrum of cooldowns ranging from hard to soft mitigation and that mitigation being ACTIVE mitigation would be healthier for tanks going forward. Not this static cure potency nonsense that is attached to Storm's Path, Souleater and Abyssal Drain has. GNB's Brutal Shell is fine in concept for GNB alone. Changing WAR and DRK actions to mimic it was a bad move in my opinion as it made the lifesteal disjointed to the damage they deal which is completely antithetical to how these jobs used to keep up sustain as they were of a different cloth of tanking than the sword & board PLD.
@imeldomarcos4126
@imeldomarcos4126 4 года назад
Paladin is the best. Ez and powerful .
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