Which X-men Omnibus route to choose? In-depth comparison of recent X-men Omnibus! 

A legend gone way too soon.

I went through this process earlier this year when Peter did a great breakdown comparing. This is what I did as well - except I’d already preordered UCX5. I’ll just give that away at some point.

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i think they call those epic collections lol

I am 98 percent sure that everything up to present has been mapped, sometimes with variants, pardon the pun.

LOL. I heard the book screamed out when Omar accidentally creased one of the pages.

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I hate the spine so much I'm going to swap mine for masscre prelude.

@@xXCigarXx Wait, I just realized Vol. 5 is the first UXM Omni I have with the newer spine design. Thank you, yet another reason to go with the MMP Omni.

@@hamzadawud Yup,all my other volumes have the normal font size,the 5th one has that tiny font for no reason.

@@xXCigarXx I just hope I can somehow get rid of my copy of UXM5. I feel like there will be so many on the market now, lol. I should've at least kept it sealed.

@@hamzadawud I'm sure plenty of people are going the volume route and buying x-factor seperately. I wouldnt worry about it,youll probably still get like 75% of what you paid.

@@loganwayne6411 Or just make an X-Factor: Judgment War Omni…

Conan selling how it did made them naively think they could play around with the big lines. Taking people for granted.

@@g-roy23 hmm yes ✌️

yeah =(...omar called it a "wonderful era" that just made me laugh/cry a little

If Marvel remapped the Claremont/Lee omnibus Vol.1, there are enough materials post Inferno and pre X-Tinction Agenda to make two omnibuses/omnibi to cover the gap. Or they could keep the Claremont/Lee Vol. 1 (because Jim Lee's name still sells) and make a New Mutants and X-Factor by Louise Simonson omnibus.

@@UXPose yes that would be great … I’ve always thought the Jim Lee Vol. 1 Omni was a little thin, perfect to add in those missing X-Factor issues plus extras

@@Olorin-jh3dh The New Mutants stuff are also collected in a weird way leaving 10 issues, not collected anywhere, if we take into account NM omnibus Vol 3. That part is messy. Marvel just have to remap that part properly.

That was the main reason I had already decided to go the chrono route with X Factor- that gap, then post X Factor David vol 1. Even when the chrono X Men catch up to the Lee era, they probably still wouldn't include any of the X Factor issues. The Inferno aftermath would be nice to see (hopefully before and not after a classic X Factor vol 3 which would create yet another situation like this Massacre prelude).

@@cruelangel8689 I believe X-Factor: Original X-Men Omnibus Vol 2 should cover all the way up to X-Tinction Agenda. But given that we now know Marvel is going both the Event omnis and Single Title omnis route, there will be that overlap/double dip. We just have to choose one route and stick with it (and hope the line continues).

True facts.

Agree 100%

sad marvel is so woke/marxist now they did the same thing on the john bryne FF omni

So in single issues?

@@theonlycaptainlasagna And in the Luke Cage, Miracleman and New Mutants vol 2 omnibuses too. Probably others but those are the ones I’m aware of. Shhhh….if we hide it and don’t talk about, nobody can be offended and it won’t exist anymore. Right. While we’re at it, let’s censor every song, book, painting/artwork, sculpture, and movie in human history too. And keep doing it every time society changes.

Some of those issues are already in the event omnibus. All the way up to Inferno. The only gap currently is the one between Inferno and X-Tinction Agenda. I laid them out in my video.

That's why I chose to go with the X-Factor omnibus instead of trying to replace my UXM vol.5.

@@UXPose Yep, that gap (issues 41-59) is exactly what I'm afraid of missing out on if they don't get printed anywhere outside of a future X-Factor vol. 2. Because if that's the case, then I will have to get vol. 1 as well (despite the big overlaps since I already have the event omnis minus this new one) so that it'll look good propped up beside a future vol. 2. Anyway, saw your video. I like how you detailed the overlaps in graph form. Great stuff!

They should do a Judgment War Omni which’ll cover that whole period post inferno going into Agenda

The lack of letter pages in the numbered volume is BAFFLING

Becuase it reeks of Marvel being revisionist in how they viewed the X-Men/og X-Factor material in omnibus format.

@@Ythelastnerd They had already released a prelude to Inferno, so why didn't you hold out for the announcement for one for Mutant Massacre?

If you collect both UXM and New Mutants omnis, the numbered UXM omni route currently makes a lot more sense because the majority (but not all) of NM Omnibus vol. 3 double dips with the event omnis. Admittedly this advantage could be nullified if an Inferno Aftermath omni is ever published and includes the remaining NM material. Going the numbered route presumably means you'll miss out on most of the non-mutant material in the event books (especially Inferno), which could be a good thing depending on your preferences.

@@yunoyuluvit inferno prelude was a reprint of a previously released hardcover. this was a net new omnibus that fans only hypothesized. at the time we were led to believe those xfactor issues weren’t going to end up in a standard X-men book but rather its own line.

They can’t be waiting for Death to vanish again to announce it…

But then it would’ve made the X-Factor Omni practically redundant

You are craaaazzzzyyyyy ... LOL

No cowbell?😂

@@MattHouck-x7v x-bell only in this hootenanny! No cows in this shindig!

@@maxappelman haha

If they did an inferno aftermath Omni that would likley be the new mutants and x-factor stuff post inferno. I think that it should just be an X-factor: Judgment War Omni and just leave the new mutants stuff for vol 4 to complete that first run going into X-Force.

On the X-Men side you're missing X-Men: X-Tinction Agenda and Days of Future Past (they fit between the two Claremont & Lee volumes), but an omni with both of those is out next month. You're missing several issues of both X-Factor and New Mutants, if you also collect those.

@@nickbaker1541 Appreciate your response and help! ^_^ I'll have to see about that Omnibus coming out! I've been unsure about New Mutants and atm not keen on X-Factor anytime just yet!

I'm not Omar, but I'd like to think the chances are pretty good: it's a perfect omni-size chunk of material, and along with next month's X-Tinction Agenda omni would allow almost seamless progression from the event books + X-Men by Claremont & Lee vol. 1 into Claremont & Lee vol. 2, X-Factor by Peter David vol. 1, and X-Force vol. 1

You know it.

i imagine with some of their current staff they would censor even if they were not under disney

Doesn’t look like it’s Marvel/Disney…it looks like a particular editor. Uncanny 5 and Mutant Massacre Prelude have different editors. Uncanny 5 was by the editor who oversees restoration work for the Masterworks program and uses those same restored files. Prelude uses the same files too, but the editor for that book apparently chose to make the change herself. This is the same editor that insists on altering covers and such by clipping/rounding corners, and puts in unnecessary colored borders in many, many of the books she edits.

@@robertrichard7311 what’s her name ? If what you said is true having such important decisions such as literally removing content from historical artefacts should not be made by one person alone and that’s incredibly irresponsible

I don’t know for a FACT that’s she’s 100% solely responsible…I’m not privy to decision-making process nor do I have inside info. But in this case, the same identical files were used by two different editors, yet one is censored and the other is not. The editor for the censored book is Jennifer Grunwald…she was also the editor on the New Mutants vol 2 omnibus, which also has censored material.

I started in 21 when they reprinted massacre & such in quick succession, prelude was the book many wanted to effectively complete the Claremont experience in Omni format along with having a consistent chunk of x-factor from the start.

Get uncanny 1-4 Omnis, then go to the events Omnis with prelude to mutant massacre, mutant massacre Omni , the fall of the mutants Omni, inferno prologue Omni, inferno Omni, Claremont Jim Lee Omni 1, xtinction agenda omnibus, Claremont Jim Lee Omni 2. If you really want to go crazy/collect any relevant story from that era (this is unecessary) get secret wars Omni and new mutants vol 1-3 omnis. Secret wars and new mutants vol 1 are the most essential of those for story purposes/tie ins to uncanny. This gets you the entire era in hardback format (minus random issues of X-Factor that don’t matter.)

New Mutants Vol 4 X-Factor: Judgment War

There's a 12 issue gap between where Inferno finishes with NM #73 and where NM vol. 4 will start at #86. If you throw in another 9 issues it bridges the gap to the NM issues in the X-Tinction Agenda omni, with the final few issues in X-Force vol. 1. Judgment War will be in X-Factor: the Original X-Men vol. 2, which will heavily double dip with the event books. XF needs a similar number of issues as NM to bridge the gap from Inferno to X-Tinction Agenda, so you might as well throw them in together With the proposed omni you could have NM vol. 1, the event books, X-Force vol. 1, X-Men by Claremont & Lee vol. 2, and X-Factor by Peter David vol. 1 to have everything from the two series (up to David leaving X-Factor, at least). Alternatively, you could have NM vol. 1-4, XF Original X-Men vol. 1-3, and XF by Peter David vol. 1 and still have everything.

Several other issues are not collected, namely Secret Wars II #5 and Marvel Fanfare #40 (Partial) according to the solicits.

@@UXPose yeah but swII #5 you can get on the swII collections..

Nman! Where have you been!!? I didn’t see you at Map My X and got worried. Good to see you around.

@@NearMintCondition Omar, it really means a lot to me that you were concerned about where I have been! 🥹. I have a bit of a story there. I haven’t told anyone on here about what I have been through since mid March 2023. I won’t go into details unless you reach out and want to know. But, something awful happened at my job in mid March 2023. It was hell for me and my family. Luckily, I returned to work at the start of May 2023 but I was not myself. Things were ok for a while. Also, before this, I started to get a bit disillusioned with our comic book community in fall of 2022. There just seemed to be a lot of negativity. So much that I dropped off of the MMW Forum. Peter M had suggested I do that years ago and I should have listened! Anyway, in May 2024 I was terminated from my job of over 22 years. It was awful and heartbreaking for me and my family. The situation behind my termination is so disgusting ydek. If you want to know I will tell you privately. So, since around early May of this year I have had to cut back on the collected editions I buy. Luckily things aren’t selling out at a crazy pace like years ago! Also, I would get depressed watching you and Jess and the Omnibros talk about things when my heart ❤️ wasn’t in it. So I decided to not watch anything related to you guys until a few days ago. One good thing is that my copy of X-Factor vol 1 came today so I will be putting that on the shelf later today! So basically, I have been going through some shitty times for the past year and a half. It really has been a struggle and I’m not over the whole thing. I might not ever be. I’m going to try to tune in more but I can’t promise. I really want to, but it is hard for me right now. However, I had to comment in regards to the whole MMP situation! We all know the saga of that! Again, you don’t know how much it means to me right now that you were worried about not seeing me. I didn’t mean to worry you or anyone, obviously, but the fact that you took time out of your day to respond to me now, truly means so much. Sorry for sounding like a broken record but honestly it means so much!🥹. Reach out if you want and hopefully I’ll start watching again. Thank you, Omar. 🥹🙏

Email me so I can have your info.

Yes, that's correct.

Thanks!

All the letter pages had. Went to check my single issues.

@@NearMintCondition thank You for checking Omar. I meant whether the prelude Omni had the letter pages not if actual Floppies had them. Great of You for checking them :)

Vol 2 would cover inferno & beyondq into judgment war stuff which isn’t collected elsewhere but could easily be a Judgment War omnibus in of itself to go between Inferno & Jim Lee vol 1.

Vol. 2 should either take them through xtinction agenda (60-62) or right before it, so it’s about 20 more issues of xfactor + side stories after the events.

Only the first 5 UXM issues in the event omnis have been collected in epic so far, so you'd be missing almost everything from that series. For X-Factor you'd be missing issues #10-20. Come February 2025 all of New Mutants vol. 1 will have been collected in epic, so you'll be missing nothing there. The XF and NM epics do have some appearances of the teams in other series, but all of them IIRC. If you're talking pre-event omnis, the epics have material which isn't in the omnis, especially UXM.

If you have all the event omnis, I’d sell UXM5 and get prelude. that gives you all of the UXM5 Stories as well as fills xfactor gap between this and mutant massacre to have #1-40 fully collected.

I think XF vol. 2 will be like New Mutants vol. 3 and only go slightly past the event books - I've mapped it up to #50. Vol. 3 would then double dip with the X-Tinction Agenda and Claremont & Lee vol. 2 omnis to meet up with Peter David's run/the new X-Factor team.