Yeah and "Fries? Yeeeaah, there's probably something like that on the menu or an approximation of something. Price? Well not super expensive but not too cheap. You definitely won't need a loan. What it look like ?
Exactly! No one seems to wanna call the man out on the fact that all his info is just hearsay. Even the hearsay is just hearsay! Like okay your witness is senator harry Reid , did he ever physically see or touch the "et" material? Well he said that they denied him access to see it.. Okay wtf is that? That tells us nothing. When I go over the Lazar story I always start wondering how much of it is truth and then a guy like Grusch will come along and slap me into remembering how all of this topic is just BS.
@@mopillo88 nah he's got a point. Grusch comes off really uncredible because of how much he talks without saying or pointing out anything of substance. The guy talks as if everything he says is fact but he himself has never even come into contact with anything. His accounts are all hear say and on top of that when he was asked if Senator Reed had actually touched or seen the "exotic" materials he answers the question in the worst way. It's like dude you've made it clear you don't know anything and are just claiming shit you've only heard about. And also he claims to be doing all this because the government is concealing it from the public and that's just wrong! But when asked to divulge more information he just says oh I would but the government doesn't want me to🤷. Like brooo, the whole reason ur doing this is to expose how corrupt/evil/devious the government has been to it's own people but now you wanna be loyal to them? GTFO. Guy just wanted some attention. It's gross.
The thing that irritates the most about this whole situation is how every country continues to think of it as their own countries national security when its a world situation. I doubt intelligent life is going to see or abide by our imaginary borders.
Best thing for this would be if we looked at the world to be governed by one international body, maybe even have one military etc, great idea bet they havent thought about this yet
It seems the context is the advanced technology falling in the wrong hands. Going to the extreme imagine a North Korean spy stealing sensitive info on back engineered spacecrafts.
@@michaelcandello8678hey let me tell you about the Sasquatch we saw up in the yukon. They were huge up to 10 ft, Brown and furry. They usually walk on four legs but sometimes they stand up on two legs. And they sat around the river eating salmon.
You asked why they crash; simplest answer is they also fight each other out there. It's like a fighter jet crashing in a jungle and animals wonder where it's from; monkeys grab components for playing with or for tools, the ants try to brake it down for building, a snake goes under for shelter and worms use the shadow....what we try to do with those crafts is relative to our own scope of understanding but it may entirely be way beyond our grasp, unless we are being weaponised to kill each other (one of our primary intent with anything in our reach)
@@chrisr6828yeah there's no way rock ever goes on the podcast without clearing that up with joe first. Joe's probly asked him on 50 times. It was actually a shit episode purely because joe was basically talking the entire time because of this....but this is even worse. Why TF is this guy even on here?? What a waste of time for us all. Joe screwed this one up
Now the one thing I do believe is the Art Bell show where he received that call so many years ago. That individual was terrified beyond measure and you cant fake that type of terror.
Yo agree 💯. That cat was either a lunatic who genuinely huffed his own. Fumes. Or he was exactly what he said he was. I still listen to it. No way, year later caller was him. Similar but not even close in intensity. Just the weird specifics he gave. Shit still has me fishhooked. That's one piece of media that truly did spook me. Regardless of its reality, dude believed it.
This dude isn't a whistle blower, he still works for the government and everything he's telling us was pre- approved. If he was an actual whistle blower then he'd tell everything.
The proof is in the pudding, 2h40mint, more than enough time to make it and taste it. this guy is still clearly government, not a whistle blower what so ever, more of a diversion in my opinion. And i think Joe Rogan caught it early also, but he had to make his questions and relinquish any doubt any viewer could have.
I've heard they operate on magnetic field waves and when that's disrupted , they come crashing down...so apparently there are weaknesses in these crafts and it has to do with magnetic field waves disruption.
Mostly likely "if real" the crafts have a device or field or engine that creates a field around the vehicle, if that device or engine or whatever gets damaged or stops working for whatever reason then it would have the force of our atmosphere on the craft instantly which would cause chaos pretty quickly. Esp if it has zero aerospace aerodynamics and falls out our sky like a rock.
Apparently, according to the article accompanying the photo that everyone cites, the orangutan was just mimicking what it saw people doing, it was not able to actually catch anything.
It’s crazy, because prime apes of many types use sticks and rocks in many ways to open fruit and kill stuff. They can swing sticks and throw rocks as weapons…but they can not fish with a stick/spear. This orangutang was just mimicking a human. This is what I think as well from observing the video.
When Joe interviewed Bob Lazar, Bob said he had heard one of the craft he saw at S4 when he worked there, had apparently been found during an archeological dig. Which means it's pretty damn old....
We have actually dug up a great many at this point. I find it incredibly strange that no one ever asks if they are from the same group. You would think that this would be one of the first lines of questions outside of is it "Alien"
Means yes in your head, doesn't mean yes for him. Could be a way more complicated answer you have no clue about. These assumptions are so wild by people really wanting to believe so badly they skip a few logical steps to have everything work out in their own brain. Sad
Thanks Joe and team for putting this interview together for a wider audience to hear David's claims. More serious conversation is needed on this topic as it affects ALL of humanity as a whole.
If Joe applied a little due diligence and did some deeper research, he would have uncovered the fact that Grusch's lawyer is Chuck McCullough... the very same guy who worked with DICK Cheney to create the Patriot Act (essentially an act of perpetual war when one thinks along the lines of 9/11 and COG). Yeah, I'm getting a real bad vibe here about Grusch, someone who claims a lot but all he provides is ground zero evidence.
@@kawkasaurous He talks in an annoying way... like some kind of overly pedantic, overly enthusiastic person (Karen). On the other hand, it seems his efforts to be honest as much as possible, while trying to not reveal any possible military secret, are pretty legit.
I seen a UFO in Michigan on 1978 December 23 it was long calendar shape with lights that blinked out after I seen it. And it continued to follow me home through town really slow. Whenever I stopped it would stop. I was all alone. No one was out after 3 am streets were empty. And the darkness wasn't helping me any. After my account. The next day I woke up to realize I could not remember how I got home that night.
Anyone catch the part about nuclear secrets category because the early 40s Italy crash material was radioactive. Nuclear propulsion, charged electron shields, and electricity. U.S. recovered it near end of wwii which is also when we dropped two newly developed nukes on Japan. Is this where we got the idea for nuclear fission?
"Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe the unknown flying objects are nonsense." - Roscoe Hillenkoetter, the first director of the CIA, 1960
Oh and we know the Nazis were heavily allied with Mussolini. It kind of all makes sense now the whole Nazis-ufo connection that I never really got before! WOW
I’m so happy Joe is open to talking about UFO’s. Whatever maneuvers these craft, have been here for a long time. It’s time to be adults and not so childish towards this subject. People are so easy to laugh at you if you believe in this topic.
Unidentified Flying Objects then yes I'm with you. But conflating UFO's to mean extra terrestrial life then I'm laughing at you. We would have overwhelming, undeniable proof by now if we were being visited by life from another planet.
This guy is a liar. Absolute lunatic. Aliens are probably very real. The sheer scake of the known universe, let alone what is unknown to us, negates us being the only intelligent life. This fool claiming that more than 10 alien craft are in U.S military possession is a joke. The number of holes in this crazy crap are so numerous that his story looks like a colander. Love Joes show. and he always gives people a platform to have their say. I don't always have to agree with the guests, though.
@@noquartergiven7789but David claims non human pilots inside the UAPs. David is just telling us hearsay stories without any evidences to back his claims. It’s he said she said stories.
@@noquartergiven7789 it’s either ET technology or lost ancient technology. Also, the universe is unfathomable. How naïve to think we are alone in the universe.
It almost like we're being prepared for something?? stuff that's been kept away for decades, all of a sudden, all sorts coming out slowly but surely now.
David grusch to his kids in the lead up to Xmas: _So your mom says I can't say what you've got. But I can say that it plays video games and it's made by Sony!_ Grusch's Kids: Is it a PlayStation? Grusch: I can't devolve that information.
it's not that complicated. He can only say stuff he's been cleared by DOPSR. If he goes beyond that, it's just a reason the gatekeepers will use to charge him with violating his NDAs. Through DOPSR is his legal way of talking about this stuff.
If Joe applied a little due diligence and did some deeper research, he would have uncovered the fact that Grusch's lawyer is Chuck McCullough... the very same guy who worked with DICK Cheney to create the Patriot Act (essentially an act of perpetual war when one thinks along the lines of 9/11 and COG). Yeah, I'm getting a real bad vibe here about Grusch, someone who claims a lot but all he provides is ground zero evidence.
@@chaboyaj9189are illegal aliens from another planet/dimension allowed in your books, because they've been crossing all our borders for melenia now, apparently? Perhaps they're not aliens at all because this is their planet and always has been. Maybe future human generations will look at countries and land as the characteristics of an unevolved sub species like these 'beings', do Perhaps too
Romans 10:9 - If you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. It's the greatest and most important free gift you could ever possibly receive. God loves you
Watching this at 3 something in the morning an already eaten a gummy.... Joe Rogan clips is like jump down a rabbit hole of interesting things that will kept me up ...
I think one legitimate reason for UFO secrecy is the fact that the propulsion system alone is a potential weapon. if you can accelerate an object to near light speed, a baseball sized object could take out a city.
And that's how you KNOW that we don't have "UFO technology" ... if we did, a lot of foreign policy problems would have been solved by "mysterious explosions preceded by UFO sightings."
Yea... I've also wondered what the weapons would look like or do with this other form of propulsion. I bet it's real cheap to replicate. Also though, I think they want us all to just stay put, on Earth. To consume more crap, and be controlled.
They’d take his family, money, credentials, and then his life. The government will put a hit on you if you go out questioning why history is just white people conquering brown/black people, Why Clinton and Trump Obama are related, Rothschild Soros Rockerfeller globalization, alien abduction agreement, human farming, etc. Just shut up and go to work and have kids and drink your juice box.
Here’s to hoping this podcast isn’t just 3+ hours of Grusch using big words I’ve never heard before and finding 100 different ways to say that “he can’t get into it” lol
No. No they wont. Just take a minute to consider the full implications. The very blatant cover up is going on a century, and I am referencing Roswell. Everything afterwards is a global government spanning conspiracy. All the space agencies world wide are complicit. While I personally believe the only way this scale of a cover up makes sense is if it speaks on the nature of our reality, the last thing you will see is anyone being held accountable.
At this point I could give a shit about people being helped responsible. That will never happen and talk like that is part of why it hasn't came to light. Let's settle with knowing the truth and moving forward together for a better future. If anger and wanting people to pay for the past is your issue than your mind is too small to handle the reality of the situation
The key thing to keep in mind is that Grusch was an investigator, not a witness. And as a good investigator he followed the money, the paper trail and talked to the witnesses and tried to get the material evidence to find the facts, unfortunately most of which he can’t disclose due to security clearances that would land him in jail for life if he broke. What Grusch is saying is what he found before “someone” cut him loose, which was completely illegal and seems to indicate he was on to something. Now the guy has lost his career, is getting death threats, has had his personal medical records leaked to discredit him, and has repeatedly been denied the opportunity to meet with Members of Congress who want to speak to him behind closed doors to get more information. By the by, All of this is currently under investigation by the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community, who has called Grusch’s complaint “credible and urgent”. Oh and his legal counsel is not your average lawyer, but a former IG himself, which should tell you how strong Grusch's case is in itself. So any logical person has to ask themselves why the Pentagon is so seemingly obsessed with silencing a guy who “doesn’t know shit”? Wouldn’t it just be easier to let him talk and then deny what he says afterwards? Meanwhile the Pentagon failed its annual fiscal audit for the sixth year in a row and is unable to account for hundreds of billions of tax payer dollars!!! Makes it pretty hard to believe just about anything they say! Where there is smoke there is fire my friends and the truth isn’t “out there”, it’s right in front of our damn faces! Grusch is just trying to light the way🔥 Oh and if he’s full of shit Why is Senate Majority leaders Chuck Schumer currently writing legislation into the next DAA to legally mandate all government departments and contractors to come forward with any information, evidence or material that might have come into their possession relating to UAPs starting next year!?! Regardless of what the Joe Blows of this comments section think, Grusch had gotten the attention of the people that matter in Washington. Whoever has been out to take him down in the Pentagon better have an equally good lawyer 'cause treason is a high crime under the constitution ;)
Whether he’s right about the UFOs or not it would be crazy to not be concerned about what a former intelligence officer could let slip by accident amidst his story telling. Especially if he’s someone who’s lost grip on reality. Confirmation bias is a hell of a drug
It’s actually under investigation by the office of the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community, so the blanket oversight over all the alphabet agencies…
Thanks for this important episode Joe. There are many topics I wish were fleshed out a bit more. Bob Lazar came up but immediately the conversation switched to another topic. Also, would have liked to get Dave’s take on if he has any reason to expect that any of the contact is malevolent in nature. If he doesn’t know factly, I’d be interested in his best guess. Joe you also seemed kind of low energy and not your typical hyper curious self which was unfortunate timing for this interview.
Don't forget this Grusch guy briefed 3 presidents while he was in service. He got the skills. The credibility and what it takes to initiate the disclosure plan.
Lieutenant Colonel Philip Corso "the Day after Roswell" is by far the better witness, by his own testimony he saw bodies brought to a base from the Roswell crash and he also is one of the officers who later on brought the tech to the private industry to reverse engineer and to keep the patents. He said we got night vision, fibre optics, lasers, integrated circuits and so on from the reverse engineering of these alien craft. Grusch has second hand knowledge. The US congress should investigate Corso RIP and see what they find, also Bob Lazar. It's twenty years late but Bob Lazar could provide valuable intel about names of personell, companies, locations etc. Congress should absolutely look into it.
Which is why I think he is planted to throw us, the public off. It doesn’t make sense why the government is all the sudden wanting to be transparent. I believed in aliens and ufos until the government said they existed . Now I think it’s just a scheme to trick us into solidarity with the government. What better way to control us than to convince us of certain destruction ?
Ive been “abducted” since childhood just as many others have been. We already know why these beings are here yet nobody takes us seriously. So while you guys keep playing games with whether “aliens” exists, “we” in the know will move on with the agenda. Which has been happening before human kind and which by the way-Its all good. It is mostly about “upgrading” the hardware which isnt that difficult given the utter gullible ignorance with half of the world.
How many legal congressional whistleblowers have you spoken to? Remember, Grusch is doing this legally. He’s a patriotic American, he doesn’t want to have to flee to Russia like Snowden did. Grusch wants people to know what’s happening, and he wants congress to have oversight.
The patriotic thing to do would be to bring this forward to the American citizenry (and the world), not to the US government. Snowden, Manning, Ellsberg, and others like them, are patriots because they knew the government was corrupt and covering up atrocities and crimes against humanity.@@austinherrington7049
I just watched the whole episode, and I was moved by how how serious Grusch is, how serious he takes this phenomenon, and how heavy this weighs on him, and how seriously heavy the impact of disclosure of the phenomenon will be for us as humans. I have a lot of respect for Grusch and truly appreciate the magnitude of his sacrifice in order to do what’s right.
Are you happy with the big downvote I gave to you? I'm a university teacher, and I fully believe that creatures with fur and big black eyes are breathing above us. I'm fully serious, is it that hard to believe that?
There was one instance in a particular location somewhere on the surface of the earth. There were things and some guys who did things with it. Then more stuff happened and people were like “wuuuut” and later on they talked about it so words were exchanged. So it was safe to say “and I can’t get into it too much”……. Since then lots of events have transpired and I’m afraid I can’t divulge anything else.
In the early nineties I was in the Bahama Channel. The water was like a mirror to the horizon, no land or anything else in sight on the water. In the clear star filled sky I saw what I thought was a star that after zigzaging, disappeared.
What I find weird is how this is only coming out now… I remember years ago having a subscription to Gaia, the streaming service. One of the series on there (I forget the name) had scientists talking about aliens. Multiple scientists were speaking about 7 or 9 alien aircrafts we had in our possession and how we were trying to reverse engineer them. One scientist even said they were trying to dissect a body but it would turn to mush within hours. He then began to say that he took it upon himself to inject himself with the alien DNA to see what happened. What he found out what that it allowed him to work on other bodies without them turning to mush. He later went on to say that the bodies function on higher frequencies of some sort and they had created an environment which mimics the higher frequencies allowing the body to stay intact. The wildest claim that was said is they took this alien DNA and were putting it in vaccines for the general public. Does anyone else remember seeing any of these documentaries? I am inclined to renew my subscription to see if it is still there. This was three years ago or more but only now is this such a hot topic for the majority.
@@proudream I will get a subscription to Gaia again when I get off work and make sure to find it for you. I even asked my wife if she remembered these things and she said she did.
@@HopeVideoDavidTyThe only difference is the lack of comments! So no interaction. Other than that, they have video, you can skip ads without premium and you have access to all episodes.
Best Grusch interview to date. Love to see how Rogan tries to push him, and how he dodge it. Get those 2 corrupt Mike idiots out of their offices. They are a complete shame on humanity. The Shumer amendment is absolutely crucial for this disclosure process, Grusch literally says that's why he do this interview and we have to act. Write your senator and congresspeople personally!
@@SyntaxErr19287 His credentials dont mean shit. Only evidence. He has no first hand knowledge he says so himself. Its all stories other people have told him. Literal heresay with zero evidence.
There is no way people who wants to keep this hidden from the world would let this guy speak in open like this. unless he was trained to do so. To keep us tangled with fake stories.
Go ahead, tell us about what we're being mislead from. This guy got barely any press, so you can't be right if the diversion isn't good? You're just a conspiracy theory nut.
Grusch IS consistent in his interviews. This dude is also a hero. He’s risking his life and those close to him and deserves our support for ‘coming out’. ❤
Let's not sensationalize. David isn't "whistleblowing" anything when he said he got the DoD's permission to speak in the original news interviews. Honestly, we can do better than this. It's not that ET's aren't real or not here, etc., it's that people like this are not the light of truth we are looking for. It's really concerning to see so many comments just full-send on this, people aren't paying attention.
He pretty much is giving 3rd hand info. Trust me I worked in the S2 shop (army intel) it sounds more impressive than it really is. I think ole boy is lying .
When he said "you can infer that" there has been a UFO crash prior to the Italy case, he wasn't kidding. The oldest one that I know of ( not counting the medieval ones) happened in Aurora, Texas, 1897. Look that up, its a pretty interesting one. The occupant's body was buried in their cemetery and was later stolen by unknown people.
Ya that church one where it broke the chappel or windmill. Also had pieces in the well. When a group did a test and found foriegn debris the government quickly shut it down. Def a cool story. But than you have Lazar who says they found one on an archeological dig so they have been here for a long time. Wouldn't be suprised if this is alot of the Bible story and wiped out the hybrids.
The part about Italy is all true because here (in Italy) there’s some book with the copy of all the original papers from 1933 , a group of the government , that was called “gabinetto rs33” , has redacted all these officials documents about that crash , now that place (near Magenta half hour from Milan , also half hour from my home😂 ) is surrounded by airports and helicopters factory
He’s def part of a faction of government who’s trying to enact the process of disclosure. Elizondo and Melon have been whispering in congresses ear long before Grusch came forward.
I watched the whole thing. Joe didn’t really speak much until the final 20 minutes or so. In the last 12 minutes Grusch said some really important details that were honest and eye opening. My favorite ever!
Joe is bored with this guy. Joe enjoys factual history and real people. Everything that is being said is public knowledge or blogged conspiracy. Joe legit needs some smelling salts to get through this lol. Thanks Joe for caring. Plz never have him on ur forum again tho. Anyone that has common sense knows aliens exist and will entertain that aliens and UFOs have had contact with us. Joe I hope u didn’t lose any brain cells with this selfless interaction with this man. Love you Joe
@Zackaria_sMax he's high functioning autistic. I do similar things..gtf over it. Maybe focus on the HUMANITY CHANGING information he's dropping! Some ppl i swear
