WHITE BALANCE: Important or Overrated?

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Discussing the importance of setting white balance and testing the flexibility of changing white balance in post on Raw, JPG, 8-bit video & 10-bit log.
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Table of Contents:
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0:00 - Intro
0:40 - Common Misconceptions about White Balance
1:07 - Changing White Balance on Raw Photos & Video
2:08 - Using the White Balance Dropper in Lightroom/Premiere
2:32 - Raw Photo Results (5500K, 2500K, & 10,000K)
3:25 - Conclusion #1: Can Raw White Balance be Changed in Post?
3:37 - Why I Wear a Grey Shoelace on My Wrist
4:53 - JPEG Results - Extreme White Balance Adjustment
6:14 - Does Exposure Matter for Correcting White Balance?
6:27 - Why Warming an Image Increases Brightness
6:53 - Conclusion #2: Can You Change JPG White Balance in Post?
7:19 - White Balance Method 1: Custom WB in Camera (Best)
7:42 - Method 2: Use a Different Neutral Grey Object in the Scene
7:59 - Method 3: Eyeball It or Set White Balance to Lights
8:40 - Method 4: Just Put Your White Balance on a Middling Kelvin
9:00 - Method 5: Auto White Balance - Why It's the Worst
9:25 - Locking the Auto White Balance Helps
9:57 - When Auto White Balance Is Okay to Use
10:14 - 8-bit Video Results (H.264 MP4 - Standard Profile)
11:38 - Conclusion #3: Can 8-bit Video White Balance be Changed?
11:52 - 10-bit Log Video Results - Any Better?
13:03 - Conclusion #4 & Final Thoughts on White Balance
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@SrCarpi 5 лет назад

I bet X-Rite is going to start selling $85 grey shoelaces.

@geraldundone 5 лет назад

👍😜

@jeffzanin5503 5 лет назад

C$100, naturally. And no free shipping either.

@niklasroste4512 5 лет назад

and thats by inch you know ;)

@NewYorkerPEACE 5 лет назад

it's amazing they can sell that nothingness for so much. it's good to be the standard in the industry.

@xsgtcrazyx 4 года назад

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@SteveMayedaTV 5 лет назад

Now we are all getting gray shoe laces on our arm....You gotta start selling those

@AcGtrNut 5 лет назад

I am wondering if anyone makes an 18% grey watchband...search time.

@sigmundevensen3937 5 лет назад

Merch! Yes!

@b29ak2007 5 лет назад

yeah he should totally start selling these

@eigojiyouzu 5 лет назад

Yes, sell em, i'd rather buy them from you as im sure most of your viewers like to support what you do.

@zyh8351 5 лет назад

Converse: (cough)I think I can help a lil

@AtaSeddighMohammadi 4 года назад

I haven't seen any content as high quality as yours ever. Never felt the need to skip some parts of your video to get to the actual content. very helpful. Thanks a lot :)

@Alonnnz 5 лет назад

Finally learning some more from youtube. I was done watching tutorials / explanation vids since all youtubers are just repeating each other with newbie instructions. You're bringing it to a whole new level! Thanks for that

@zobotrombie 3 года назад

I stumbled upon one of your videos recently and I just kept watching more. The value and knowledge in your content is delivered in an easy to digest way for guys like me who want to get into videography but can’t afford the proper education for it. Thank you so much.

@curtisjudd 5 лет назад

Helpful, practical question, answered! Thanks Gerald!

@geraldundone 5 лет назад

Cheers, Curtis! 😃🙏

@grat2010 5 лет назад

Ah, there's the original "what is happening" I've been missing. Also, my husband's shoelaces about to get "undone".

@geraldundone 5 лет назад

Clever. Very clever.

@juanalvarado7794 5 лет назад

"What is up everybody!" 😂 sound familiar ?

@ginatinyverge9661 4 года назад

Beware people, this channel is dangerously addictive.

@PaulKretz 5 лет назад

Haha, LOL, thanx for featuring me! I'm happy real Gerald is back! =)

@JohnPaquette 5 лет назад

I imagine a future standard gray rubber wristband product which is stain resistant. Killer content, Gerald. No fluff. Quick, clear delivery. Very helpful.

@geraldundone 5 лет назад

Thanks, John! Much appreciated. 😃👍

@ulrichmors574 Год назад

Hey Gerald , you should sell "neutral grey wristbands for video" ;-) - where is the "buy" button???

@USGrant21st Год назад

One of the misconceptions is the belief that the WB set on gray card is what you want. Of course, totally incorrect WB usually looks ugly (unless that's the intention). But the truth is that if you take two raw files from different cameras of the same scene and set WB on the same gray card, you will get different color results nevertheless. WB is not what makes the colors pleasing or not. My Nikon Z6ii is set at White AWB, as well as my Sony A7iii. Both result in different colors. But I usually don't care that Nikon's AWB is wrong, because the colors still come out great. I rarely ever change Nikon WB in LR. With Sony, it's a different story. The colors often don't seem right, and fixing WB usually improves that, but even after the fix, the colors from Sony raw files are still lacking. Bottom line, don't sweat WB, get the right camera.

@DarkTrapStudio Год назад

@@USGrant21st Also, it depend on the Kelvin of the light, morning light would not make the same grey as the evening one.

@adamn3917 5 лет назад

super super informative! thanks for taking the time to explain and share.

@herurishardana5618 5 лет назад

This is awesome - thank you for the deeper dive on this subject.

@RockWILK 3 года назад

Sometimes I feel guilty watching your channel. Like I snuck into a school and I'm watching for free. Always such awesome information. Thank you so much for sharing so much all the time.

@dathofilms 5 лет назад

I LOVE how you always address all possible upcoming questions what people will be asking in comments, and answering them beforehand :D thats experience!

@geraldundone 5 лет назад

Haha. Thanks! I try. 😃

@dslrvideoshooter 5 лет назад

Brilliant intro. Glad its back!

@geraldundone 5 лет назад

Ha. Thanks. Cheers, Caleb. 😃👍

@qt31415 5 лет назад

and we're back~ :))

@CountSorinsRealm 5 лет назад

Man at some point someone needs to create the RU-vid DSLR video channels' squad where they all hangout at a round table and make different cameras fight to the death!

@andreslinn69 5 лет назад

The intro itself deserves a like! Great info and video thank you 🙏

@VehicleVirals 4 года назад

3rd video I've watched from you back to back and I gotta say your content is gold!

@pebmets 5 лет назад

Another great job. The shoelace idea is so simple it's genius. I often misplace or forget my gray card and then I end up scanning for something that is close to neutral. Keep up the great work presenting useful and meaningful information.

@geraldundone 5 лет назад

Thanks, Phil. I do the same thing. 😜

@robinmayfair3068 5 лет назад

I’ve just discovered you for the HLG3 stuff, and I turned into the notification squad. Thanks a lot for sharing those really great nuggets of knowledge. Please keep doing what you’re doing!

@geraldundone 5 лет назад

Thanks a lot! That's awesome to hear. Happy to have a new subscriber. Look forward to future comments! 😃🙏

@vistek 5 лет назад

Great test & demonstration! Bravo as always!

@geraldundone 5 лет назад

Thank you very much! 😃👍

@Rudraghosh 2 года назад

Awesome indepth tutorials. Grateful ❤️

@ThisIsTechToday 5 лет назад

Dude. The Shoelace is BRILLIANT. I ALWAYS try to get custom white balance in camera with a gray card before I start recording. It has been way easier since then.

@geraldundone 5 лет назад

Ha. Thanks! And agreed, way easier. 👍

@lucasboyle959 2 года назад

always good hearing an echo of your own thoughts/opinions

@niklasroste4512 5 лет назад

WoWeeii, great tip with the shoelace. Thank you sir, this will save much of my time in edit since i forget about WB over 30% of my shoots!

@MichaelSchagen 5 лет назад

You're a beacon of evidence based reason in an ocean of regurgitated nonsense. Thank you.

@geraldundone 5 лет назад

Thanks a lot, Michael! I really appreciate that. 😃👍

@mribi 5 лет назад

My thoughts exactly!

@freeandcriticalthinker4431 4 года назад

Michael, evidently you are not a “current day hard left Democrat “!😉. Lol. Yea I agree with you, facts and reason are getting harder and harder to find these days.

@benarnoux 5 лет назад

My kids are upset because I took their laces, all of them. Don't they understand I have goals?????

@geraldundone 5 лет назад

*Benjamin's arm is covered from wrist to elbow in a rainbow of shoelaces* - IT'S FOR SCIENCE!

@JustDavidMinistries 4 года назад

Gerald Undone 😂😂😂

@momandjas 4 года назад

Hihihi

@KCSiebert 4 года назад

Ben Arnoux The 2nd best reason to have kids, (so you can steal the stuff back that you bought..)

@olegstrekachev6734 4 года назад

Thanks man! Finally someone who is checking his information before teaching others.

@bradena.1194 5 лет назад

somebody should think of 18% grey lens caps

@geraldundone 5 лет назад

That's a great idea! I love it.

@MichaelSchagen 5 лет назад

The expodisc claims to be 18% transparent. Won't fit on your lens though without some tinkering and quite expensive for a lens cap. A white reflective object also has the advantage of giving you the ability to set a good whitebalance under dimmer light than the grey card or anything transparent at 18%.

@jan.tichavsky 5 лет назад

Reminds me of the grey Pentax Teleconverters that look photoshopped in pictures :) www.pentaxforums.com/lensreviews/Pentax-Rear-Teleconverter-A-2x-L.html

@mondotv4216 5 лет назад

Gerald Undone Old panasonic dv camera had a semi transparent white cap precisely for that purpose. Hate seting white balance on dslrs; so much easier with a dedicated set button on a video camera. The A7SII has to be in photo mode to actually set it.

@MichaelSchagen 5 лет назад

@@mondotv4216 these can be used for whitebalance but not for exposure. I also don't understand why dslr's dont use the easier camcorder method to set custom white balance. Actually, on the gh5 it works very simmilar to camcorders.

@oren.kirschenbaum 5 лет назад

As always, Gerald - great stuff, thanks!

@thomasjayprince 3 года назад

This was amazing. love the way you went through this process. Very clear, concise, and helpful for the newb that i am. subscribed!

@blainemarcano 2 года назад

This was great! Very informative. Thank you.

@Paul_Greenwood 4 года назад

Really great video, super helpful! Love that grey wrist band and grey card on the shelf. Timeless content Gerald

@DawidDoesTechStuff 5 лет назад

Wow, another 8000 subs in 2019 so far. Good job, you must be very excited.

@geraldundone 5 лет назад

Thanks! It's pretty amazing, yeah. Very grateful. 😃🙏

@DawidDoesTechStuff 5 лет назад

@@geraldundone Good luck for the coming year. :D

@MHVideo 5 лет назад

He deserves milion+ that knowledge!

@stephenscharf6293 5 лет назад

Another great video, Gerald. Your explanations are, as always, accurate and very well-considered. For professional real estate and architectural photography, accurate WB is absolutely key, as we're usually using mixed lighting, ambient and flash. I've learned a number of tricks in post to deal with color contamination in PS, but having accurate references in-frame, especially for a sequence of frames, as one does for RE, Arch or product, is a big help to minimize shot-to-shot variance and having maximal color consistency through all the images in your assignment/shoot. As we used to say in Six Sigma, customers don't feel _averages,_ they feel _variation._ Cheers, Stephen

@geraldundone 5 лет назад

Thanks, Stephen! Always love your comments. Great points as usual. Cheers!

@cwjonesII 5 лет назад

Ok, that shoelace idea is absolutely great!

@technoendo 5 лет назад

Great test, thanks for the video!

@rich8037 3 года назад

Mate, these videos of yours are really first-rate. I've watched a few now and the amount of really solid, evidence-backed information you get into them is admirable - and it's all so clearly presented too. I'm trying to bring myself up from next-to-nothing to reasonably adept video all-rounder in a hurry (expanding an audio-recording business and wanting to hit the ground running) and I feel I've found a proper goldmine of information. Many, many thanks -and I'll visit your Patreon and make my thanks more concrete shortly: if we were on the same continent I would consider buying you a big box of beers or something but this'll have to do!

@saadazzahrani 5 лет назад

I like your take on different things, you're quickly becoming my favorite youtuber.

@geraldundone 5 лет назад

Flattered and thankful. Appreciate that! 😃🙏

@olano123 4 года назад

Great video, thanks! I think many of us kind of now the difference between raw and .jpg when it comes to white balance, BUT i enjoyed and find it very useful to see practical examples of the limitations 8 bit and 10 bit log has. Also, well presented!!!

@carlculpepperimages 5 лет назад

Excellent info! Thanks for taking the time to do these tests and share the results. I usually like to stylize my WB a little, but it definitely helps to start out with an accurate setting whenever possible. I recently did some run and gun, outdoor vlog-style shooting with AWB, and I noticed it shifting throughout the takes. Next time, I'm locking the WB down first.

@geraldundone 5 лет назад

Cheers! Yeah, I like to stylize it as well. White balance for vlogging is tough because of the changing environments. Understandable.

@rosyaugust7095 4 года назад

Hi Gerald Undone, This is great tips. I have been using Auto White Balance until I watch this video. Loved it. I hit the red bell and go

@LifeofPal Год назад

This is very helpful. I printed a color chart to just test on gopro and yi 4k with different WB to see how well camera captures the colors and also to match both of these camera. I did certain test and it gives me new starting point. Getting correct skin tones was a huge issue in auto WB. Thank you so much for this, well presented and informative.

@cameraconspiracies 5 лет назад

What is the song that plays after you subliminally planted seeds of doubt in our minds by potentially saying n'aright at the end leaving us to wonder which dimensional Gerald we are watching?

@geraldundone 5 лет назад

Hahahaha. Oh that song... 😜 It's called Brenner by Falls.

@CountSorinsRealm 5 лет назад

You have the Peter Gregg whitey balance card. What more do you want from us haha?

@ddonald1845 5 лет назад

Haha Duuudeeee, nice to see you here !

@cameraconspiracies 5 лет назад

@@geraldundone Thanks ;)

@lulumink0 3 года назад

Best man explained the technicality of videography on the entire RU-vid.

@DillonLoomis 5 лет назад

Excellent video. Learned a lot. I have never hit the "bell" for any other RU-vidrs as I am on here enough as to not need notifications. You earned my first "bell" click! Lol you da man thanks for all you do for this community!

@geraldundone 5 лет назад

Wow! Well I'm flattered. I appreciate it. Looking forward to future comments. Cheers! 😃🙏

@NathanHoang 5 лет назад

Ur videos are so informative. Thanks 🙏🏼

@kingkaamaofficial3900 3 года назад

Thanks so much Gérald ! Like always .. you re the maestro 😉😎📺

@osmancho3185 3 года назад

This is the only content I'd pay for man!

@MarkMorrow 2 года назад

Excellent WB solution, love it. Made the back of my biz card a white/black/gray card. Always with me.

@birdsofray 5 лет назад

Yes!! Well done, Undone!

@JonathanDyer651005 5 лет назад

I started watching one of your videos. Before I knew it I was bingeing. So clear, so straight forward, so damned good. Thank you for the excellent nerdy stuff, best resource I have found to date.

@geraldundone 5 лет назад

Thanks so much for saying that, Jonathan. That's very encouraging. Cheers!

@JonathanDyer651005 5 лет назад

Gerald Undone Still bingeing!

@Sal4Ro Год назад

What a great idea, the shoelace is brilliant alternative to a card. I have a gray cloth type velcro Apple watch band that I'm going to start wearing more often on shoots; thanks for sharing!

@MrWhiltetail 5 лет назад

I'm just learning about editing for action cam footage and barely know anything but you do a good job of being informative, clear and not overloading people.

@geraldundone 5 лет назад

Thanks for saying so. I'm happy to hear that!

@jan-hendrikswanepoel3744 2 года назад

This is really evergreen content, thanks 🙂

@mxcrec 3 года назад

A very informative and useful video, thank you.

@specialized41 4 года назад

Very useful information. Thanks Gerald !!

@GDoggProductions 2 года назад

Just what i needed 😁 Thanks again Gerald

@CondorCreative 5 лет назад

Dude I think Grey “UNDONE” wristbands are a great useful merch idea

@Vernonchan 3 года назад

That shoelace thing. Genius.

@saulmirandaaliaga 4 года назад

Thank you very much for the video, Gerald. It was very helpful!

@ChannelWright 5 лет назад

Another great video! Thanks!

@Maros_Mari 4 года назад

Thank you, this was informative and to the point, motivating me to spend extra seconds to set the white balance properly.

@HybridphotoPro 2 года назад

Right on - Custom WB + correct exposure in the camera is the best way to go for image quality and for production speed.

@HrPedrosak 3 года назад

VERY helpful! Thanks.

@bhosterman Год назад

All this time and I was trying to white balance picking white surfaces... DOH! Johny come lately here, but this has changed my world! Thanks for the video!

@toxictabasco 5 лет назад

Great demonstration and explanation of the WB. And that trick with the shoe lace is cool. I use a grey cat for custom WB for indoor shots.

@geraldundone 5 лет назад

Well-behaved cat. 😜

@ernolaunis 5 лет назад

I think you produce easily the most useful videos around the RU-vid. I’m grateful. And I’m not hater when I say that I’m tired of life coaching etc even when the videos are about movie making. I like entertainment also but learning makes me more happy. Like Aristoteles said way back that people are in their most happiest state when they learn and they can use the skills with others. Thanks dude.

@ernolaunis 5 лет назад

Don’t mean to say there’s anything wrong at all that RU-vidrs speaks about their life. I’m just tired 😴 - I don’t mean anything negative. But the happy moment what I fell w/ this video was huge for me.

@geraldundone 5 лет назад

Much appreciated. I enjoy being useful, so thanks for saying so. I agree with you about learning. Happy to help! Cheers 😃🙏

@PaulKretz 5 лет назад

In newer cameras *Canon has a nice feature - WAWB - white priority auto white balance* . It really helps in many situations. More on this in my video (timecodes included): ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qo9bPw1YsX0.html

@YoFreddy 5 лет назад

Thanks man. Great explanation!

@chaloffmediaproductions2347 5 лет назад

Amazing videos! Thanks so much for the info

@geraldundone 5 лет назад

You're very welcome! Thanks for the kind words.

@SarahJonestoo 3 года назад

Fabulous. Thank you!

@RobbScholarTube 3 года назад

Every video you make is fire G, give this man a medal!!!

@TylerFroisy 4 года назад

I wear a white lokai band on my wrist, never even thought of using it for this situation , thank you! 🙏🏻🙌🏼

@PeterYacono 5 лет назад

Thank you very much for quality content.

@lamontgilliland9664 5 лет назад

Brilliant!... lots of technical detail very clearly explained. Thank you : )

@geraldundone 5 лет назад

Thanks, Lamont! Cheers!

@ayechapin1 Год назад

I came across your RU-vid videos because of my upcoming trip to Alaska to hopefully photograph the Aurora Borealis... I'm fairly new at this hobby maybe 2-3weeks into it and I'm trying to learn as much as possible about night photography etc.

@StirfriedGerman 5 лет назад

Thanks, this video will literally improve mine 👍👍

@geraldundone 5 лет назад

Awesome! Glad to hear it. That's what I'm trying to do. Cheers! 😃👍

@kabassa 5 лет назад

I really like the fact that you have your own style making videos. Good job!

@geraldundone 5 лет назад

Thanks for saying that. Appreciate it!

@jacklinemedia Год назад

Great info here. Thanks

@Film_Fog 5 лет назад

I like the approach of showing how it was tested so it can be verified. Good job.

@Leprutz 5 лет назад

Yes of course, but still the fact he saw himself forced to do it is kinda dumb, because whotebalamcing a shot before you shoot is crucial. There is a rule that says: never doin post, what you can do during production. Andwhite balancing is a camera operators first job to do.

@007bennett 5 лет назад

Thanks for this. I just ordered a18% grey card last night for getting better exposure in my z6 n-log footage but this video really shows I need to be making WB more a priority as well.

@geraldundone 5 лет назад

That's a solid investment. 👍

@anthonyc1883 5 лет назад

Thanks, Gerald. Been living in fear of tackling white balance for...well, forever. Yes, tutorials abound, but I like yours.

@Anna-gv7vo Год назад

Another great vídeo! May I ask what is the white card for? Thank you so much!

@pinkirite 2 года назад

Thank you!

@viviendolapesca 2 года назад

Great post and tips.

@maexjan4416 4 года назад

You only get this super explanation at this channel. Thanks gerald

@MA-jm3fu 2 года назад

Great content Gerald.

@aravindamandis 3 года назад

Thank You so much !!

@tusslemania 5 лет назад

thank you Gerald!

@behery4tec 5 лет назад

Hi what is the name of that program you are using

@geraldundone 5 лет назад

Adobe Lightroom Classic CC

@ORBIS-FILM 4 года назад

Very usefull. Thanks!

@Highfivechurch 4 года назад

Great info!! White balance has been difficult, but I think it can impose beca of this video.

@MichaelWTurner 4 года назад

This is a good video. I try to always do a custom white balance, but sometimes when I'm running and gunning I forget. Then I'm kicking myself in post.

@greglaw3693 5 лет назад

Gerald, thank you sincerely for making this video. This information was extremely beneficial! One of the most overlooked objectives indeed. Oh, and the shoe lace concept...INGENIUS 😉

@geraldundone 5 лет назад

Thanks, Greg! Really appreciate that. Thanks for saying so. 😃🙏

@showdaKOs 5 лет назад

I did hit the like button 3 times, the second i heard that (weirdly cool) "what is happening?" now I can go back and actually watch the video !

@sebastianfilms4499 5 лет назад

2:27 the third image has a bit more magenta to my eye than the first two. Being nit picky but I find I have to adjust somewhat sometimes after using dropper tool.