@@AdamArcherPigeons pretty happy my blacks and barless are working...because i dont see a path to white or almond here. Except after four steps, four generations. I could see that perhaps. Just curious if you check or know Wynan Wolmaran? Did I get the name right?
@@AdamArcherPigeons it would be better if i paid you.. Im so slow at this patreon thing. I apologize. I will be hauntung you for info if i do that thou...
I don't mind answering questions in the comments here. I only made the Patreon because every day I have people I don't know trying to contact me directly and privately, and that gets to be too much, so the Patreon is an option for these people.
In Spike Island I once saw a white pigeon in the middle of wood pigeons! I thought it was a dove until I found out it is a white version of the pigeon!
I got a 100 % in a genetics test in college 38 years ago and have not used that info for about 28 years but I followed you. found it a great video and bet youdo well in the races cheers thanks for posting
We have a white pigeon living on top of the frame of an outdoor blind on the western side of our house in Eastern suburban Melbourne. Has been there for over a year.
Great. That explanation is really clear. It's consolidated all the little snippets I've picked up about "white" in various species over the years. More genetics videos please! lol man savaged by protective pigeon ;-)
Amazing video! The red baby is really beautiful! Don't worry it is probably a cockbird, because it is a bit too light for pure ashred. Good luck and a lot of success!
I am new to keeping pigeons but loving it. I own 1 tiger grizzle and to gray grizzles does that mean if they breed I will always get GRIZZLES ? Thanks and keep up the good work.
Not necessarily, if both parents are heterozygous for their grizzle gene you'll end up with 25% each of: tiger grizzle, classic grizzle, both at the same time, and neither.
Hey Adam 👋 gonna tell u that I've many pigeons at my home. They are living in for ages. They are mostly grey color, brown color and some of them are white.
I own a few young recessive white racing pigeons that I want to use to foster a few of my baby Strassers next year. Although I really love my Strassers (recessive yellow, ash red bars and ash red checkers), these white ones look sooooooo great
An opaque object that reflects all wavelengths appears white; one that absorbs all wavelengths appears black. Black and white are not generally considered true colors; black is said to result from the absence of color, and white from the presence of all colors mixed together.
I know this is late and won’t matter for this video/eggs and you probably know this yourself but you can hear the chick chipping away at the egg from the inside if you hold it to your ear and know it’s due to chip it’s how I used to determine the hatching or live chicks in eggs for my birds after lay date and marking the eggs 1st nd 2nd obviously protective parents make that abit harder 😅
Hi I am really enjoying your videos. This question might be covered some where else, but what do your individual breeding pens look like? what size are they? how long do you leave the birds paired as individuals?
Can anyone help me please? I am buying 100 pairs same pigeons from my farmer friend. I like to know what kind of breed is this. He doesn't know either. I own small farm house. With stables and barn. I have so much space. And what is the selling price? Please help me.
@@AdamArcherPigeons Hey Adam! Can you do a video on what happens when you get two hens or two cocks from a breeding. I've haven't seen a video about this yet. Thank you!
I got two hens from a pairing and one of hens is strong and large like cock! I raise Birmingham Rollers and a few Homers. This pair came from my Rollers.
Please, solve a doubt for me, in the event that the pigeon is white, or carrier of recessive white, is there a possibility of using one of these in a project with the purpose of diluting colors? Although you have explained the science of "lack of pigmentation", I would like to know if there is any chance of color dilution occurring when crossing with pigeons of other colors... for example, leaving a lighter recessive red, half orange ... Thanks.
Great to hear you talk about white pigeons. My experience is that I had a pair of blue bars and as they get older, they eventually produce a white...it turned out to be a cock. The pair I had were around 6 years when the youngster had white flights. The older the pair, the more splash I was getting until I got a pure white cock. On a lighter note, don't give up on the tiger grizzles....they're beauties.
So one of my white homers hatched a hen with a blue bar on her tail You cant call her anymore a white I think its a homozygous grizzle Am i right? Or what color is her?
Well, I believe The GENETICS Is a big mystery.. If the colour white is recessive they why is it get expressed to its progeny🤔 I had white female roller paired to ash red T check.. both the babies were full white to my surprise.. Can you explain on this?
Hey Adam. I had a friend he’s gone now. But he had a red checker cock and a red hen and all there baby’s were white. All white. After looking at your channel I understand why.
Adam Archer.. Really love your explanation and sharing of knowledge. Can you suggest any book that deals with pigeon genetics. Thank you for everything 😍
@@AdamArcherPigeons I have about 100 white racers and their parents have been out 100 miles. As a foundation I bread the 100 mile whites together but I was looking to add some stronger distance birds into the Mix. And try to get stronger white birds. This has bred a 20 year breeding process for me. I will try the cross and see what the babies produce.
White is not a color so i would say that my pure white pigeon is pure 100% dilute. So i have one pair of silver pigeons and here I bred a dilute silver bar cock looks white with red bars with a silver hen. The result is a pure white cock and a silver hen. Can u explain how this happens? The second batch is another pure silver and a splash or pied silver.
Mix white colored peigon with spread recessive color “ dun “ you will get amazing colors and patterns of actually white patterns I have amazing grizzle Fantail babies from a white male fantail and female dark spread grey mom I paired a grizzled make baby with his white sister and I have got amazing offspring Grizzled white and Brown and grizzled white and grey baby
I have a pair of silver bars, the hen comes from two silver bars but the cock is from an ash red pie forgot what the hen is but anyways back to the pair the cock is a dilute silver but he looks cream white with red ash like bars. They have been together and produces all silver bars and mealy. This year they produce a pure white with dark red eyes i was just stuned. According to ur theory it lost its color genes so i think its just an accident. Now if i mate this white which is probably a hen to its father do u suppose it can produce whites right away because i think the father carries more of the white gene from his father. If u support the theory that it will produce whites then i will try to mate them this spring although i dont think it will produce any dilutes i think its just hard to amagine it.
Hi, if you have any white breeders available? let me know, please. I am looking for a pair with colored eyes. and are they available? I'm from Pakistan. Thank You
White color does not complete any color in pigeons. No color will ever be white if you try for a thousand years. It is absolutely necessary to enter the white pigeon gene. In that case, I think your theory is wrong. If your theory were correct, the white part in shielded pigeons would not always meet in the same place and would not leave the wing tops regularly colored. So the painter either painted them all or had to paint them randomly. Love and respect from Turkey. Thank you. I don't know English, but I can explain this much with google translate.
Actually no! There are also real albino pigeons, I just forgot to mention them in the video. Albino pigeons will have pink eyes instead of the dark eyes of a recessive white.
I mean, technically it's black that's not a colour. White has not made the genes "invisible", they don't have another colour underneath... what are you talking about?
The genes are not "inactive". Their expression is just hidden by the epistasis of recessive white. They will be passed onto the next generation and expressed without inhibition if the other parent isn't a carrier of recessive white. Please don't come onto my channel and start spreading misinformation when you don't know what you're talking about.
@@AdamArcherPigeons What are you talking about? 😆 You're ridiculous There is no other colour underneath!! Don't talk about things you clearly know nothing about lol
