A % of people are too scared to show up at these rallies. They share these ideals but are fearful of consequences or being outted so they stay online or are silent supporters
@Jose Colon total lifetime membership of the KKk in the past 50 years hasn't even come close to 50k, and that's counting prison gangs. 50,000 out of a population of how many millions of people in the USA? You are worried about an invisible boogeyman.
That's exactly what they want. And they're convinced that crying about everyone who disagrees with them, if they just scream long and loud enough, they'll get it. A hilarious example of social child rearing norms going terribly sideways. It would be hilarious if it weren't working.
Both of thier comments are usually from people outside the country trying to start issues between our population. Cause riots civil war voting out politicians. It's the play book our government has used abroad for decades. Now other nations are doing it to us.
Hiii. Yes. Let's hope civil proceedings can bankrupt them back into hiding or something. That's our only recourse at this point. There's the "Supreme"... Court. 😁
@@awildtannerwasfound5045 critical race theory is all the rave from the right wing goofy. We can’t hurt the poor whyt peoples feelings, they might shoot the skool up.
@@jazzorealtalk6315 crt isn’t ‘talking about race’ is anti white blood libel. Stop acting like we’re ever taught any social theories that don’t conform to liberalism. Just look at this video. Owls white Americans advocating in their own ethnic intrests same as everyone else? So nefarious
@@ELVIR2 Yeah... ...Especially when no one chose what ethnicity they wanted to be--I mean, before I was born, I wasn't given a questionnaire that asked "*Please circle the ethnicity(s) you'd like to be:* White/Black/Asian/Latino/Native American" nor a map with the prompt "Circle spot on map where you'd like to be born"... ...Were you? No--It makes *no sense* to attack someone for something they had no control over
@AC I've seen that on many news videos that had to do with white supremacy and it makes *no sense* because one's ethnicity was *not* chosen by that person... ...I mean, before you were born, were you given a questionnaire that asked "*Please circle the ethnicity(s) you'd like to be:* White/Black/Asian/Latino/Native American" or a map with the prompt "Circle spot on map where you'd like to be born"?? I sure wasn't...And neither was anyone who was disadvantaged/marginalized/threatened/even *PHYSICALLY ATTACKED*, simply because of their skin color/religion/national origin/etc.
It's not about your superiority as a person, rather that exclusiveness creates a society superior in aspects that white supremacists value. The strength of such a society doesn't come from strengthening the individual, but alignment of shared goals and interests. Unsurprisingly, the more similar people are, the likelier it is they will end up wanting to achieve the same goals.
@@aarrcchhoonntt Exclusiveness. You mean like all black colleges, black history month, affirmative action, indigenous people's day and all those "progressive" ideas that exclude white people?
Anyone who has piercings, tattoos, different hair or clothing, looks poor or not white can attest that most people make way too much out of appearances & are unable to read people & situations well. Depending on the community
@@1vigorousdragon There have been mountains of conclusive studies to suggest that the military and law enforcement are infected by white supremacists. Keep burying your head in the sand though lol.
Well, isnt the housing market in the US pretty brutal for first buyers? Thats what ive heard atleast. So it wouldnt surprise me that your statement is absolutely correct.
@@nyhchal5393 lol you have two first names. your ancestors couldn't bother to get better last name let alone your parents couldn't figure out what to call you so they stuck with harold morgan such a shame
@@crazybastardgaming4292 : Looking into my history as a European, is utterly dismal and bitter. The truth has been hidden from us for so long, but staring at one's own 'Reflection in the Mirror'; cannot be an attractive beauty to all. Some of us have to gloss over our ugliness with 'Make up' to stimulate and 'Jubilate the Mind'!!!😞😢
If they fix this then they have to fix blm amd antifa. But this is America so everybody gets freedom of speech. Even to be racist. Just as blm and antifa get away with being enemies of the state
Her arguments have long since died and are in fact, are deflecting in their purpose. People now see that it is the Progressive Left, who are the REAL RACISTS and I don't have to look much further than what they try and teach kids in school to make that argument.
@@JussHaten11 How is BLM a threat to our democracy? Maybe by racially victimizing people and getting them to loot and torch other innocent Black people's means of putting food on the table?
Swastika is not a hate symbol. There should be a differentiation. The one used by the nazis is hate symbol. Just call it the “ nazi symbol.” Swastika literally means “well-being” in Sanskrit and in the Vedas.
You can easily differentiate between the two different types. The Nazi one has more edges and is tilted. But I agree that not many people know about the use of swastika in other contexts.
I think that argument is dangerous. the reality of the 21st century is that the Swastika *is* a nazi symbol. pretending otherwise gives far too much to those abusing it.
@@sidharthpillai4951 Definitely, people refer to swastika only as a nazi symbol and none otherwise. That creates a problem to Hindus living in the western world because it is used in almost every religious occasion.
I don't remember wolfenstien having agit prop telling you racial preservation was evil. Try replacing white with black in this context and get back to me if this would be okay with you.
@@copperheadaz5023 there's plenty of other occurrences, it's the fact that no one wants to cover but instead we still wanna talk about Charlottesville. I think that's the reason for the comment
Literally the best way to combat them is to mock them. And if they throw the first stone, the entire world will rain down on them hard. Redditors gotta reddit.
the problem with that idea is for every 10 people that laugh at the idea, 1 dumbass buys into it and becomes a nazi. hence why deplatforming is the only long-term solution.
A liberal educator discussing her ideologies while showing videos of white people protesting is not a documentary. This is an opinion video with absolutely no statistical backing. Look at the statistics of white vs black and black vs white crimes and make your own assumptions.
As a black man, I’ve only experienced racism twice(I’m 20). Neither of them were gear-wearing-neo nazis 🤣. Just really mentally messed up folks who came from bad homes. Even made up with one. THIS IS NOT DEFENDING THEM AT ALLL!!! Just saying it’s usually the ones you don’t expect
I feel like this take is quite reliant on a white majority perspective. Since I personally have experienced more racism from so called “ordinary” people than outright fully uniformed neo-nazis/white supremacists. Therefore I strongly believe that a change of clothing won’t change anything for those of us who actually experience racism and anti-semitism. The only people who might view it different are those who have these tendencies within them and seek to normalise/sanitise these kind of thoughts.
@American chick And here we go again. Can others voice their opinions without being mandated to lecture like some sort of scholars on racism? How come that some people become so infantile when the subject is racism? Try to imagine yourself in the shoes of others or read up a little instead of expecting everything to be handed to you. It’s dishonest to say that you’re willing to learn but not willing to try and do so yourself. Furthermore, it’s disrespectful to believe that you have a right to demand anyone else to teach you.
I'm saddened by the last comment here (implicitly concluding white supremacy and its effects are not modern issues of import). Much of my life, I'm sure it would have angered me - but today it just hurts. Said as a white male who believes in justice, but knows it can't exist unless applied universally. Unable to avert eyes from just the last 3 decades of inequity all around us. Who cannot help but feel that comment's sentiment is not only non-anomalous, but rooted to the same tree as people discomforted seeing racism represented in polos and khakis. In both cases, the badges of racism being much easier to digest when represented in the culture and clothing and time that doesn't remind you of you. Neglecting the man behind the Klan hood looked (and looks) exactly like your neighbor. Your father. Your brother. And wore khakis underneath it. That haven't confronted the troubling revelation that America is the land of OPPORTUNITY, not inevitability. That we have had the opportunity to confront this underbelly for many generations. That we have failed so far to rectify the hatred in us that prolongs injustice. That it is our turn. That equality is not inevitable. Thank you OP for saying this. As a cut song from Hamilton put it: "Let's hope the next generation thinks of something better."
I dont really know how and where you guys got the idea that the 'victim groups' points of view were not representet on the internet. This video is more about how the perpetrators change and try to keep going althought they are a minority in political thinking. The nature of the video doesnt even try to talk about how the actual actors in all of this feel or what exactly happens to some of them (We already know that segregating and discriminating people pisses them off btw)
Today is white race, tomorrow black, then Indian, then Chinese than European than Arabs etc etc etc. Stop creating divisions. Haven't people learned from History?
2017 was also the year of many much worse attacks, including those in Barcelona, Istanbul, Las Vegas, Manchester, Mogadishu, Sinai & Sutherland Springs.
@@arkology_city : How many people were killed by police in 2020 or 2021. How many people were killed by mass shootings. Every news organization focuses on one particular issue or incident. Nothing new dippy.
@@briendoyle3823 Let me know when VICE covers antifa violence. I doubt they ever have. I have 90 hours of antifa footage, arson, shooting at random motorists driving by, beating random motorists bloody and nearly dead......90 hours of it
The title led me to believe there would be data on the growth or hopefully decline of the movement, with for example, analysis on how the 2020 election results affected their numbers and tactics. Instead there is an extraordinary lack of information. Tell us more!
Doesnt she basically say that its hard to draw a line between relatively moderate and extremist people? Kinda hard to get clear information on movement growth, especially since a lot of political movements change way more rapidly since the pandemic. Take my home country for example, while a extremist political party has pretty much vanished, 5 bigger movements, including stuff like QAnan, have grown rapidly, partially without any clearly stated political orientation (they are all very, very racist, unknowingly quoting Mein Kampf sometimes and totally opposed to democracy). Also the unwillingness to cooperate even with Police, Army, Journalism or medical staff is incredible, making it next to impossible to count out the members of such organisations. At least thats how it is in Germany
They don't want to give you th information because this is a fear mongering piece. As someone who was a professional investigator and infiltrator of these types of groups its why when I break down how popular they are nationally I break them down into different groups of: activists(people who are willing to go into the streets), internet activists (people who admit that they're natsis but only active online), secret supporters(people who secretly support but don't say anything), and recruits(people who are in the indoctrination process. They typically dont think they are natsis but advocate and reiterate their talking points. Good examples of this are SOME factions of Qanon, though I wouldn't say Qanon itself is fatcist its its own beast with no solid ideology and is really just a bastardization/conglomeration of multiple different toxic ideas). I would say there's probably around 3000-6500 activists, about 20,000 internet activists. Another 50,000-70,000 secret supporters(perhaps more maybe less though this number is the hardest to gage but you can check donation websites and conservative groups to get a good idea) and then there's around 200,000-300,000 recruits. There's also about another 100,000 in the prison system though again the number is hard to tell but most research shows that the number is far less than you would expect. I do exclude certain subfactions of Pboy, Qnon, or TPUSA subsections from this number because though there are fatcists in those organizations some chapters are not fatcists at all and are more libertarian or concervative. Ultimately though the amount of these people in our population is negligible and the best way to destabilize them is to ignore them. Call them out when you see them in person or when they interact with you but other than that leave them alone because they thrive off the attention. The govt as entire task forces and subdivisions dedicated to catching them and contrary to popular belief they do good at it. There's even a whole private sector industry based on catching them though they're not nearly as effective they're good at harassing them. If you can make them think nobody is after them they will eventually get cocky and out themselves not to mention from my experience I can say the #1 driving cause that radicalizes them further is the attention and hate they recieve, the less attention they get the less violence they commit and typically they leave the "movement" after short period if time because they lose a reason to fight. Yes these groups need to be destroyed but the public involvement and tactics being used are only making them more powerful. In the mid to late 00s their movement almost died and then when these new public activist tactics were introduced it gave them new life because they had something to fight.
@@scordova98i think i agree with the heart of your argument. my only comment is that all these groups *need* to be officially classified as terrorist organizations. any violent or otherwise destructive attack carried out by those in leadership positions or ‘patched’ members *need* to be charged as terrorists. maybe its because i dont live in that ass-backwards country, but dont yall think its weird how Guantanamo inmates all seem to be non-white??? heck, most of ‘em have to be released cos theyre innocent! do i have to wipe your ass, too?! the point is that you (primarily that disgusting, putrid republican party) need to take a loonnggg look at yourself. Unless youre mitch mcconell - someone draw a portrait of him, poor vampire bastard
@@brightblackgrouse6236 in group preference is surrounding yourself with people more similar to you while actively avoiding places with people who aren’t in your circle. Ya’ll don’t do that. Ya’ll throw racial slurs and try to push people put of areas you inhabit rather than sticking to your own. And you live in a multi ethnic country. If you truly wanted in group preference you’d go back to YOUR country in europe
As someone who spent multiple years of their life as a professional infiltrator and investigator I want to make some points and expound on some stuff from this video. The strategy given in this video is exactly the strategy we need to use and why we've been failing at eradicating these groups. Defensive democracy and education are the keys to disabling them in their current form. Classes on propaganda and how brainwashing works should be given in schools(though that would never happen because then students would realize the schools are brainwashing them), the populace needs to be educated on how they speak, the logic of their ideas and how its wrong and ultimately fails. But more important is defensive democracy. Ostracizing these people doesn't work, it only makes them worse. The best and easiest way do de-radicalize is when you sit down and have a discussion with them(its key to not bring up anything explicitly political during these discussions because if you say something they perceive as communist propaganda they'll stop listening to you) these kinds of face to face civil interactions is the one thing their ideology is not prepared for because its the one thing it relies upon to never happen. These radicalized individuals basically need a therapy/drug rehab approach, and everytime that approach has been taken either in studies or anecdotally it has succeeded. I also want to quickly breakdown their numbers and how popular they are. This comes from my experiences undercover, data I saw from the FBI while undercover, and publicly available sources such as research and donation pages as well as forums. When I break down how popular they are nationally I break them down into different groups of: activists(people who are willing to go into the streets), internet activists (people who admit that they're natsis but only active online), secret supporters(people who secretly support but don't say anything), and recruits(people who are in the indoctrination process. They typically dont think they are natsis but advocate and reiterate their talking points. Good examples of this are SOME factions of Qanon, though I wouldn't say Qanon itself is fatcist its its own beast with no solid ideology and is really just a bastardization/conglomeration of multiple different toxic ideas). I would say there's probably around 3000-6500 activists, about 20,000 internet activists. Another 50,000-70,000 secret supporters(perhaps more maybe less though this number is the hardest to gage but you can check donation websites and conservative groups to get a good idea) and then there's around 200,000-300,000 recruits. There's also about another 100,000 in the prison system though again the number is hard to tell but most research shows that the number is far less than you would expect. I do exclude certain subfactions of Pboy, Qnon, or TPUSA subsections from this number because though there are fatcists in those organizations some chapters are not fatcists at all and are more libertarian or conservative. Ultimately though the amount of these people in our population is negligible and the best way to destabilize them is to ignore them. Call them out when you see them in person or when they interact with you but other than that leave them alone because they thrive off the attention. The govt as entire task forces and subdivisions dedicated to catching them and contrary to popular belief they do good at it. There's even a whole private sector industry based on catching them though they're not nearly as effective they're good at harassing them. If you can make them think nobody is after them they will eventually get cocky and out themselves not to mention from my experience I can say the #1 driving cause that radicalizes them further is the attention and hate they receive, the less attention they get the less violence they commit and typically they leave the "movement" after short period if time because they lose a reason to fight.
Brainwashing works to certain point. Whites are collectivizing due to being put in a fight or flight situation. All this is just the unfolding of the American experiment. Whites as a group of common interest will flock together sooner or later, this is the beginning. Good luck mr fbi man
@@DiogoMarquesAwesome I want to make it clear that I dont advocate brainwashing just teaching people how it's done, I abhor brainwashing but it's an unavoidable thing that all sides use and we need to teach how these brainwashing systems work and how specifically far right radicalization happens because it's actually its own psychological phenomenon(though it's similar to left wing radicalization its also very different) A core piece needs to be education about the example of Reserve Police Battalion 101, and how humans are willing to become evil and commit atrocities if they think it's "good" or "the RIght thing to do". If the majority of the population was educated about human mental pitfalls, fallacies and human nature right wing radicalization would be entirely preventable because that's how it operates, in fact most totalitarian systems would lose their believers because people would be able to see through them because they're all based in subtly flawed psychology. thing is it's obvious that they will collectivize, thanks for pointing that out. however, the collectivization can and is being controlled. So for example in the younger generations(mostly Z) are already collectivizing but they're collectivizing into left wing groups, they've replaced the White part of their identity with something else and collectivize around that in order to deny white collectivization whilst meanwhile being a white collective. Another major thing is that white collectivization is usually centered around churches and the modern church has more or less been destroyed and transformed, they either support left wing beliefs or are what most would consider Apostate churches. This is a major contributing factor to what led to the rise of Qnon because they saw that the churches had a distorted form of spirituality that was different from the churches they grew up with so they dived into spiritualism to try and find another answer. The older generations of white people have really no idea on how to collectivize and the youngers dont either though they understand how to create internet communities which can help them. By the time the majority realizes they have to collectivize it will be too late and they will have to learn the lessons the African and native americans have learned already which will take long. I do think collectivization will happen but it will be small ragtag bands of people likely united under "less radical" ideologies like libertarianism. It'll end up being more like little pockets of collectives than one whole collective, and within each collective there will be struggles because both modern white and right wing culture has a focus on individuality and they'll debate/fight it out within themselves. but yeah there will be collectives just dont expect them to be anything serious, expect like the little roving bands of like minded people that we saw in syria and ukraine.
"These radicalized individuals basically need a therapy/drug rehab approach, and everytime that approach has been taken either in studies or anecdotally it has succeeded" Wow, so what rock have you been living under dude?
@@smithhoowe lol did you read my comment? I have more first hand experience with these types of people than you do. Just because you don’t like what I’m saying doesn’t mean you’re right or that you should throw the baby out with the bath water. Learn to grow up and understand that these people are immature and that if you’re gonna be immature and participate in their mud flinging competition nothing will ever change. Meanwhile the rehab approach has a 96% success rate.
I was able to get close to a 4Chan nazi last year and I got a decent glimpse into what he believed. The white replacement is one of his biggest fears and beliefs. He had an interest in napoleonic history which i found kind of odd. he also didn't like being called a nazi and preferred the term national socialist. wanted a ethnostate. scary guy for sure.
@@truthasareligion9472 Their numbers are dropping because of their stupid one drop rule, they’re undoubtedly incapable of putting someone “in their place” like 70 somethin years back and a good half of them are dubbed race traitors by these clowns who aren’t as threatening as you think.
@@monty_113 so that whole narrative about them not having children and having the highest suicide rate AND leading the opioid crisis is fake news. Great! Tell them to stop whining then
@@spliced7383 no you silly goose your narrative about the ideology losing numbers is wrong, but of course you know that so you deflect and tell us about your opioid addiction. get help hun
Not according to the Progressive Fascists! To them, the working class White Conservative male is an enemy of the state worthy of total political/social annihilation.
Because it’s hyper spun . It’s the agenda being pushed to hate white people and be ok with socialism . It’s a way to cnn msnbc, Cbs, ect ( all owned by a handful of people ) to push the agenda that white = America = hate = we must tear it down . Yes racism exists but it .003% in this vice spin I see more flag waving constitution backing folk that are conveniently WHITE… please wake up. All Americans of any color that value freedom and the constitution are my brothers and sisters ! No
We should. Lets get a panel together, South Side Chicago, on a Sat night to talk about things that dont exist. But lets make sure its on an outside stage, with no armed security.
Everyone who's not an English-speaking white churchgoer. They're anxious about not getting the automatic deference they enjoy and being treated more like every other minority.
Vice plz hire some new hosts or journalists. Most of the ones you currently use are not good at their job. Front stage vs back stage just means they know they are doing something wrong. If you can’t be yourself and show others and be proud of what you believe, you are doing something wrong or illegal.
It’s honestly soo weird especially when you can compare your family so easily to ignorant racist bigots, and when you fact check em they just yell nonsense over you and never want to change…. But there someone always soo religious😭
"what can ordinary people do to fight this." - 'we're starting to see more interest in defensive democracy.' - she didn't answer that high stakes question!!
GET ARMED AND TRAINED. FIND OTHER PEOPLE LIKE YOU. STAY TOGETHER AND FIGHT EVIL. READ HISTORY. EVIL IS HARDLY EVER REASONED WITH. iTS PUT DOWN VIOLENTLY.
*******Update******* Back in the late 1980s in Miami about 100 KKK people came to protest the Jewish memorial, fortunately of the gay community came out in numbers and about 25 drag queens in their heels chaste the group throwing bricks at them..Lol! It was too funny😂😂😂😂😂😂 Never screw with a drag queen, and I am a straight man lol
Are you saying that assaulting people for exercising their 1st Amendment rights is funny? Was it more funny because of the clothing worn by people using potentially deadly weapons? Also it is *chased* ... not "chaste".
So what's the difference between nazi, white supremacy and nationalists? Need someone to tell me cuz I don't know for real murica put to many labels on everything
@@NKOLS-mn8gp so you have a friend Albanian I have a friend that's Russian what does that have to do about racism because you have a friend Albanian and you're a nationalist doesn't make you a not a racist
congrats you found the 1 slightly browner dude in a sea of insecure white guys dressing like theyre in their mid-life crisis and acting all cool with torches like muh ancestors
There is No point For fighting For a Country or any Country As If You will One day Die And And If reencarnation Exists You will Be born on a Different So There is No Point fighting or Hating where you are going No where time Goes By I think We were born To do amazing Stuff Not To waste time and energy In Hating At the end it does Come to an end Your Life with time And what better than To do Amazing things For your life
When she ask you the time, you do not have to explain how to build a clock! Just say they are acting, deceiving, period ! Front stage, Back stage, BLAH ! BLAH ! BLAH !
Every country has a dominant race whether it be in terms of numbers or traits. America is unique as in the Whites were settlers by bloody conquest. Where I come from though, Chinese is the dominant one. The Chinese didn't come to conquer anything. They were early immigrants fleeing instability from Qing China or seeking wealth who through larger numbers, industriousness, and machinations of our ex-colonial masters managed to claim the "top" spot of the racial pyramid without murdering the natives of the region. We were also lucky in the sense that indigenous natives were used to foreign presence and their culture revolves around acceptance/adapting to the new order. That contributed to a lot of nation-building after we gained independence. We had only 2 brief racial riots throughout our history. My country claims multiculturalism which we do pretty well in most aspects, but everyone including the minorities knows that ethnic Chinese has the most say. The peace that we have currently is through tacit recognition that the Chinese impose a benign dictatorship for the benefit of all. Not to say that we don't have minority representation. We do, but representation is capped based on the racial proportion which our government balances in favor of the majority. Setting quotas for immigration and adjusting policies to ensure that Chinese remain the majority for the sake of political stability.
Your country is so ethnically Chinese that you can come up with whatever propaganda you want to make yourselves feel better. America is so diverse and divided that the truth is up for grabs. Hence Donald Trump popularizing the phrases "fake news" and "alternative facts".
Why? So you can stalk pages you hate and feverishly downvote all day long? Giving you people the sense that you are IN CONTROL has lead to most of the insanity in the USA. Like you thought Fox News ratings means Trump has more voters. NO... It just means the right watches more MSM...🐑🐑
"Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.” (1 Samuel 15:3)
