No I mean xebec people are theorising that xebec is still alive and if this proves to be true then luffy will have to beat him to withhold his position as king of the pirates
God valley whitebeard isn't prime Whitebeard and it was never confirmed they beat whitebeard in 1v1 as well. It was rocks pirates crew vs Roger crew and garp and marines. This doesn't prove whitebeard is weaker than any of them. Whitebeard also most likely didn't have devil fruit in God valley. There's no proof that Roger or Garp can beat Prime Whitebeard in 1v1
@@ericfarren5100 source? The show didn't confirm who is stronger between Roger and wb. You are not author to confirm that. The result of Roger vs wb is unclear. Any conclusion is headcanon. You are not author to decide who beats who without evidence
@@ericfarren5100 also wb is most likely slightly stronger than Roger due to his df. But its not confirmed. I wouldn't say it's fact without proof. But 90% people would agree that Whitebeard was always slightly stronger than roger
I think prime garp is equal with prime Roger and prime Whitebeard. Cause Roger and garp fought and always endep Up as a draw. Soo if Roger is a littlw bit stronger he would have won. Sooo i think the 3 of them are equals
maybe they call me crazy but I think that white beard is a little stronger than Roger, and why will they ask? Well, because White Beard never saw that the figure will use his fruit The gura gura no mi never saw that he will use it against Roger so if he had used it I would say that if Whitebeard beat Roger but since their battles always ended as friends drinking sake
Thanks for video but I think you are ovarrating the admirals I know the admiral are so strong but I read marinford and I would say the admirals are not so strong than yonkos and I would say one thing in marinford kizaru kick luffy 3 times and luffy still sober and in wano kaido strike with kanabo to g4 luffy +basic armament +basic conquer💥💥💥advance observation and luffy lose one's consciousness
Garp is not a normal admiral… in marineford probably he was the strongest admiral… maybe now akainu is stronger … I don’t know… Mixiate is not that strong as an admiral… you cant compare kizaru to Garp
@@Own1303 Because without having crazy powers, he couldn't even think about overthrowing the world government. So monkey d dragon must be atleast as powerful as prime monkey d garp or even more. So
@@ratio8099 he is the most wanted , this title doesn't refer his strength , it is more of how dangerous his ideology is and how he think to overthrow the wg well he must be yonko level character
wait if roger and prime garp are 560,000 and wb and rocks are 445,000 and 600,00 respectively then how did garp and roger defeated rocks pirate ? cuz there were big mom and kaido also ?
Big mom and Kaido probably weren’t as strong as they are now and Rock vs the team of Roger and Garp was taken down leaving the rest of his crew to disband and begin their own journey getting stronger after the god valley incident.
We don't know what exactly happened their, probably Roger was with his crew as well including Rayleigh, and Garp was with past admirals who I think were stronger than younger big Mom/Kaido. Or Whitebeard simply didn't take fight, otherwise I don't think Garp and Roger alone were strong enough to take down entire Rocks crew.
I think İn marineford before whitebeard got injured on his chest 435.000 Marineford Garp 450.000 İnjured sick Whitebeard 400.000 Post Timeskip Old Garp 420.000 in their primes Whitebeard 560.000 / Garp 560.000
I don't know why, but I would increase the Yonko level 350,000 to 600,000 (350,000 - 400,000, low Yonko level, like Kaido dragon form or base Big Mom without her devil fruit powers)(400,000 to 500,000, Yonko level, where Kaido (base form 420,000, and Híbrid form, 495,000), Luffy Consqueror Cloak (with gear 2 or 3, 420,000 and Luffy Snakeman with the Consqueror cloak, 490,000), Blackbeard after timeskip (450,000, without the Awakening of his devil fruits) and Big Mom full power (480,000) are)(500,000 - 600,000, legend level/High Yonko level, where Kaido drunk forms (530,000, If he have a Awakening may be 560,000), maybe Shanks (550,000), Garp prime (590,000), and Luffy awakened base (520,000, with more time may be 570,000), Sengoku Prime (550,000), Shiki prime (520,000), Rayleigh prime (510,000), and etc). And after that, there is King of pirates level (where There are only 4, until now, Whitebeard prime (640,000), Roger prime (640,000), Xebec prime (690,000), and Joyboy may be (620,000). For me just, Blackbeard and Luffy will surpass 700,000
Here in my explanation Unlike Whitebeard, Garp was never really stated absolutely Equal. Statement made for Garp is he and Roger killed each other multiple times. Similarly Corcodille and Smoker almost killed Luffy twice, but they're way below Luffy now. Garp is couple of years older than Roger, so every time garp fight Roger he face Weaker version. Like if they fight when garp is 30, Roger is 28 30 yrs. Old garp = 28 yrs old Roger. So 30 yrs old Roger would be slightly stronger than 30 yrs old Garp. So when they're in their peak, same thing can be applied, so I have Roger just slightly above of Garp. But in case of whitebeard, it's directly called equal rather than indirect statement, so I can't do anything about that.
@@SPSenpai ok here’s the thing Roger has better feats than wb and so does arguably garp they 2v5 the rocks pirates and still won it was roger garp vs prime rocks nearly prime wb younger bm and kaido and shiki That alone should put Roger above Xebec As for the statement where Roger says he and garp almost killed each other Ik he never stated they were direct equals but literally no one else besides xebec and roger have a good chance at beating roger and as for garp being older there’s no way to calc how much weaker they were I think roger is stronger than garp too but my point is that even though it was never stated they were equal there are feats to make them about equal like roger and wb the reason why Roger is stronger than xebec is because he 2v5 the entire rocks crew and it was blatantly stated by sengoku it was the whole crew,people assume it was just xebec.As for the rogers crew and marines helped most marines were fodder at the time and it’s proven sengoku wasn’t at the god valley incident and the only other one on rogers crew that can fight a yonko is Raleigh and even then he’s not winning so there’s that as for roger being above wb roger just has better feats as shown and I think wb would beat garp in a extreme diff the top 4 strongest one piece characters would all extreme diff each other,and even if you want to say roger was still weaker during the god valley he could have also gotten stronger since that fight Note:my whole point is that idk why people think xebec is above roger when they fought the whole crew,also I don’t think your a bad power scaler your a good one I just wanted to clear some things up
Wb Is stronger than garp.He was Rogers main rival, Roger toyed with garp and they we're just friendly rivals not too far apart in power but weren't equal, garp couldn't even capture Roger.Whitebeard and Roger were true equals and the strongest
Rock d xebec isnt more powerful than prime Roger or Garp, bcs if he was, then he could just with the help of whitebeard and probably kaido or big mom kill both Roger and Garp.
@jeiron gaming well what i know Garp need help, bcs if he was alone he would die, but with Roger he defeated them. So thats why i think it doesnt make sense.
@@nikocz88 kaido was a rookie at the time, i bet even marineford luffy is stronger than him, big mom was probably admiral level if not lower, shiki was yonko and so is whitebeard, and who is to say marine admirals and rogers crew wasn't there?
Agree but just a question where is the difficulty for example low, mid, high and extreme diff? It was really good Prime WB~Prime Roger>=prime garp>=Xebec
@@nikocz88he was able to hold shiki, kaido, big mom, and whitebeard with pure strength alone you would need to be more powerful than anyone we have ever seen to do such thing
I think Ryuo luffy is stronger than law awakening although law's attack is much powerful and haki can't protect him from law's attack but luffy still has advance observation haki.He can know about law's attack that he can't protect himself with his haki although that is ryuo haki and in term of endurance luffy still stronger than law because he can fight against kaido so long time but law needs to get helped from kid to delay bigmom and they can't take her down.Several people might think that law and kid can take down bigmom now but they win because they can delay to go to kaido in the rooftop but not win in term of power.And most of people might think law stronger than ryuo luffy because his attack is insane powerful even bigmom is bleeding with his attack but if bigmom isn't arrogant in her honor and dodge his attack.Bigmom can easily defeat law.according to luffy in that time he has the advance observation and armament haki although his damage hasn't destructive power same as law but he can dodge bigmom's attack and damage bigmom multiple time he can make bigmom bleed surely and his physical ability has more than law because law just use his awakening devil fruit in the first time his power can't compare with luffy who trained alot in Udon prison.I think luffy this version can defeat law with mid difficult.
@@Emmaplanz no he isn't. We know smoker and Luffy to fought and nearly killed eachother but Luffy surpassed smoker now. It's same although unlike smoker and luffy garp is close to roger and wb level but not equal
@@hindleyluke2100 Theres a difference between a conqeurors clash and a conqeurors coating clash. It has been confirmed in verse that when two characters using that coating clash, their weapons don't touch yet shanks and whitebeard clashed with contact. The same thing happened with big mom and kaido
@@yahallobenjamin2354 I think the reason that there was no visible lightning or weapons not touching is due to it being in the "pre haki" era before there was visible visual effects for haki, because like no pre timeskip armament user had black coating and Conqueror's user had black lightning the same with weapon not touching
@@hindleyluke2100 Thats not a good excuse because of the fact big mom and kaido made contact in this same arc this new haki is introduced and they split the sky.
