Ivory almost definitely didnt do it but i think that everyone else will think that she did it in episode 2 because she had just joined the staff, wasnt at lunch, and snuck out of the dorms before work
When she was sorting through letters at the time the body was found, was the scream from the murder or the person who found them? Could’ve been a fresh murder since surely someone would’ve found the body sooner, especially because there’s so many staff members in each room constantly
To add to the pyro murderer theory, the way misty talked to him in the morning sounded very fearful. Maybe I'm just reading into it too much, but it almost seems like misty may have seen one of his outbursts, which would make misty fearful and give pyro a motive to kill.
I had the exact opposite feeling to that scene. It seemed Misty really cared for Pyro, and she felt bad for not lighting him a fire. However, I do understand that point and I could have misread fear for genuine respect/care. Now, if Pyro did do it. Would he get in trouble at all? I'm pretty sure he's the heir to the estate. The death of a maid to the Hemlocks would not consider ruining their succesion. This very well go down like that show Your Honor. This is not a murder mystery, but a cover up, and Pyro's desperate attempt to hide his misdeed. If he did it that is. Cheers.
i doubt it as if you had subtitles on when misty was murdered pyro actually acted as if you was in sorrow or sadness (refencing subtitles) also, as see in the first encounter with pyro and ivory, he seems to be kind toward the workers and house staff.
When Ivory looks at Pyro in that one scene, the song "paper birch" plays. Birch trees represent rebirth, new beginnings, and growth. And is also considered a sacred tree because of its protective influences. Paper birch trees are considered to have short life spans, and pared with Pyros scene of him vomiting, i think Pyro might end up dying tbh
Ivory, beforehand of getting hired at the mansion, probably had a traumatic experience in the same woods we see her staring off into, as if in a trance or flashback of some kind that still has a aftershock with her. Hence how they “found her”, but I’m sure when another episode comes out more will be hunted at and delved into.
Good video! It is definitely worth noting that Mysty's body is located on the grand central staircase, which we repeatedly see frequented by the staff of Whitepine. Even though there are an abundance of places people DON'T go, which Raptor goes to great lengths to show, the body is found somewhere people DO go. Whoever killed Mysty, they wanted their body to be found. My theory? Ashwagg did it. The song Ivory plays is "Mountain Ash" and he is rarely seen on screen, giving him plenty of time to commit the crime. And when they find the body, he tells everyone to get away... quite possibly to hide something that links him to the crime.
During the morning mysti died, after ivory played the piano, there’s a sudden cut off to the library. Pyro is there, meaning that he was probably there for the majority of the morning. Not to mention, after Zam said there’s going to be a hunt tomorrow, but specified it would “happen at Luca’s place.” Whether it was code word or not, it leans more into the direction of casual conversation. My guess is the random “butler”. My reasoning is because he showed up abruptly, and ended up leaving an awkward first impression. This is all just theorizing.
here's some theories that I've seen or strongly agree on; -the murder definetly happened around mid-day. Cause if it was early in the morning everyone would've already seen the body and found it earlier, now for the mid-day theory why at mid-day? It is because when Ivory went out to where the piano was Seraptor said the earliest a servant can be out is at 6am. If it was early morning Ivory or any other servant would've seen the body if they were out at 6am, and if we look out the window around when everyone was at their station's it's cloudy and the Hemlocks are already awake. And at the beginning ClownPierce says that the Hemlock family wakes up around 10-11am so by the time everyone was awake and the body was found it was most likely early evening/mid-day that the body was found and the scream was heard before. -But there is also a theory that whoever killed Mistycat was not human. Cause the scream and by the time everyone got there was 20 seconds, the scream could either be Misty's or a servant. The main theory it's Misty's scream, and as you can see on the body there's multiple wounds. One of them around the neck looks like a bite mark so there is a theory that a 'monster' from the forest killed Misty. It is because there's a lot of foreshadowing of the forest and Ivory as well as other servant's and Pryo keep looking out to the forest, as if something is out there. -There is also another theory this supposed monster killed someone else, aka Mrs Hemlock. Cause she is barely mentioned and hasn't shown up (Again this is a theory) and the piano in the basement belonged to Mrs Hemlock which was moved from one of the upstair rooms to the basement where Ivory finds said piano. -Now there's a lot of suspects I've seen but one surprised me is Ross, I would explain why but I haven't seen any explanation for why him. There is also Pryo, then Ram, and some other's (I forgot :']) -One final theory which is kinda not proven and can be proven wrong, it's how Ram talked about how there's going to be a hunt (Previous day to where the murder took place) tomorrow to Pyro, then the next day Mistycat is found dead. A lot of people speculate that the hunt is Misty's death and most likely the 'hunt' is going to continue and more servant's will be killed. The reason this theory can be proven wrong is cause after Ram talked about the hunt to Pryo he said where the hunt would take place. At another residence, now at the manor. But it is still a good theory to dwell upon if it can be proven. (Reminder that these are theories I've heard and/or I strongly agree upon)
Lots of yapping up ahead - includes theories, and thoughts. My first thought when reading these theories was that maybe The Hunt is something different. The Hunt could be hunting the supposed “monsters” at a different residence (prob more encounters/appearances), but infiltrated the mansion instead, killing Mysty. The bite mark on the neck also supports this claim as said in the video. Also (idk the guys name), the person who wakes up to vomit, then go back to his room, looks out at the forest for a very long time. It’s like he’s been sick from whatever is from the forest. Also I have a new theory, what if the guy who vomited was infected/turned into a supposed “monster”. This is supported due to him finding Ivory and Sir Raptor (Seraptor) coming out of the wine cellar. It seems like has either has white or light gray eyes. (I’ll look back to see if that’s the right color) While staring at them for a while, lost in thoughts or action. This is also supported due to him roaming the halls mid-day and being the closest to Mysty’s body. This is, once again, supported that Ivory looks back at the guy when walking away. This may have been her foreshadowing of who did it. So it might be Sir Hemlocke (I think, I forgot) due to the heavy amounts of evidence. Btw idk who says it’s Ivory, I believe that Ivory was just in an emotional shock, not panicking, not moving, but just staring due to how surprising it was. Or she could be used to violence. Another note let’s take a look at all the other characters There is the overly happy one Minute Tech who introduces Ivory to Clown. Prince Zam - I forgot what he did The other staff Seraptor - Ivory’s trainer Clownpierce - the boss Now that I think about it, Minute Tech could be a good plot twist. Hear me out: Minute Tech, he is the one who we can mostly trust, he is nicer to us than Clown, introduced us to the job, gave us a book to read, and also gave Ivory some clothes. Maybe he uses Ivory as a way to persuade suspicions to others, or maybe he persuades others into thinking that Ivory did it. We also don’t know what Minute Tech does other than get in the train and help us get a job. We haven’t seen as much as others. Clown - Very unlikely, but would be funny if he was the killer due to his Minecraft reputation “Minecraft’s Deadliest Player” Conclusion - it could be the guy who vomited when waking up, or Minute Tech (Very Unlikely)
my boyfriend thinks it the butler but i think its too early to claim, but his claim was the butler was absent but what would motivate a butler to kill a maid
The butler wasn't actually absent! When ivory runs into him, he speaks, and the subtitles say his name is "Ivo," and when Ross gives the introduction of the other servants to Ivory, Ivos name is said!!
Episode 2 shows that Mysti wasn’t just any maid, but Pyros personal one, which gives the butler a reason to kill Mysti, the shot at being able to move up
Great video! Glad our doc gets some love, me and the team (shoutout to my fellow sweats if you find this) spent way too long on that so I’m glad it sees some outside use! Onto the theory. I’m not sold on pyro theory because if he killed Mysti at the END of the episode, he would probably have blood on his body because murder (especially stabbing) causes a lot of blood to go on your body and makes sure people find you. Pyro is still a suspect because Mysti could have been killed earlier, but we don’t know for sure. I’m still partial to Ivo because the denying the hunt could be because he is ill, and we have no other definitive proof, but for the reasons you have stated Pyro is a close second. Love to hear other opinions though, this is the most solid and confusing plot Ivory has created and I need all the theories/proof I can find. Keep up the great work!
in the scene that mysty died in, there were a set of stairs behind her, and she sounds a bit older in her voice which could lead to her falling down the stairs. and nobody would kill a person in the middle of the house where everyone can hear them and maybe see them.
I thought it could be that but it looked like she had stab wounds and way too much blood to just be falling down the stairs. Also I could be wrong, but I remember her missing an arm too?
My theory is that Pyro purposely drank alcohol the night before he woke up and vomited. He wanted to be awake so he could figure out Mysticat's whereabouts, and could also get an approximate time Mysti left his room, as we can see him looking out the window, possibly to locate the sun. Pyro also is seen reading on a lectern in the library a bit before the body is found, which could insinuate that he used the library as an easy alibi, and (assuming the library is upstairs) called for Mysticat and pushed them down the stairs, before running down and leaving through another hallway to make it look like he wasn't there. Pyro could've also vomited to see if Mysti would tell anyone, as a precaution. I would assume Mysti is an upbeat fella, so they would keep something like that to themselves. The 'bite' on Mysti's neck could also just be a broken neck, or maybe a stab mark from Pyro. Finally, if Pyro actually spent his time in the library (again, assuming it's upstairs, which it looks like it is), how could he have gone down that quickly? The other staircase(s) would probably be far away (if he went through the staff one we would've gone with the staff), and it's unlikely that he would have time to walk over the body if he didn't do it, unless he wanted people to see him walk over it. However, if he did kill Mysti, Pyro would've had lots of time to walk away and go to a different hallway. Obviously all of this is assuming the screams are from Mysti themselves, or the body was found quickly.
This is a crackpot theory. Clownpierce. but he was with Ivor- He could have planned it before hand. Clownpierce is a very vengeful man. Which makes sense, he is literally the middle man of the mansion, so of course he would hold a grudge against the rich nobles who probably don't care about him, and the people below him who possibly don't respect him. He possibly could've hired that butler to kill Mysty so he could have an alibi. It makes a lot of sense to view Clownpierce as the antagonist of episode 1. He's rude and strict. While not the worse man in the world, he stops Ivory's progression as a character, which makes him an antagonist. This is a just a theory. A theory I don't subscribe to. See, I don't think this was a murder, but a suicide. One of the themes in Whitepine I subscribe to is that rich people are only harming those below them. What better way to show that theme than to show one of the lowest people in the social class of Whitepine, a maid, to attempt to take their life from the stresses of working for people who genuinely believe they are better than you. Though this takes a 100 years ago, elitism was still a massive ideology in Britain, especially Britain at the time. Monarchs still ruled in those days (They still do but they're weakend), Britain was an empire. Of course anybody of any sort of wealth would have pride in that. This would mean anybody not born to wealth was worthless to the eyes of the privileged. This could mean abuse, exploitation, and neglection. Is ivory even paid? Is she essentially just a slave to the Hemlocks? This alienation could drive a person to suicide. Clownpierce being the killer would make no sense to this theme. It'd be insincere. I also think that Mysty will survive in episode 2. She may have looked mangled to the point of death but... People could survive that. Just snap a few bones in place, bandage some wounds, and you got a full body cast mummy in your hospital. Whether she survives or it's a murder or suicide, we'll find out next time on... When you got way too much free time. See you at episode 2.
My firts tought its that there was not actually a munderer,at leats not one that was related with the house or even human, but with something related to ivory,we see her looking out the window and into the woods in some scenes,the way Ivory just gets blank at the moment could clearly be a hint that "something" happened or "someone" happen. Misty asked Pyro if he had a nightmare again,what if this thing he dream about was Misty death? or even more interesing,the thing that killed her,with this not so crazy theory i came to various possibilities: 1- Just a murder (the most basic one): We dont really see more of Misty beside she maybe got along pretty well with pyro,so there no really a clue beside that maybe that was the reason she got killed 2- Possesion of Misty herself: Maybe if something possesed her??? she willingly jump herself 3: The creature: Misty body got a hella bite on the back,its the reason why i believe it could be not human what cause it,this its the one i believe more of because Ivory seemed to notice something in the woods,yk when she got blank with white noise and when all were running to the place where the body the sound turn into white noise again,this could also be that maybe Ivory experience this before in some other way and this its her response to a huge trauma related to wherever mades her got blank at the forest,also the fact that it happened no long atfer she came to the job,wherever Ivory felt or saw,its now in the house?. 4:Possesion of other: Connected with 3 theory,wherever who followed Ivory possesed someone in the house and did the murder thing swith the difference that it manipulated them into doing it
I think her mom was the mother of the family or someone high up and Ivory used to be siblings with pyro and the other kids. Then one day she did something to make the head zombie mad and in return he killed her mom and abandoned Ivory as a young child. The room in the hallway where she met ivo was her room. This could explain why pyro let them go and why she looked back at them. I think she had to run away into the woods when her mother died and that’s why she is attracted to it, she had a flashback. That could explain why she knows piano, and why she needs someone to explain in detail what she has to due because she doesn’t want to mess up again.
I have something to add it was propaply something non human bc masticat had a giant bite mark at the back of her neck and I don’t think it was porosity bc he didn’t have any blood stains on him
here is the thing, this is the second vid on the murder on mysty i watched, i wana point out that before clown stood up to see the murder, there was a muffled scream earlier (turn on subtitles), so i reccomend if you want to get a lot more info , subtitles is a good source, since many begginer lore hunters always forget that subtitles exist.
okay guys this may sound crazy and completely wrong buttttt... there is a chance misty offed himself it might seem wrong due to misty's joy type personality but there is the "Hide True Emotions" Type and act happy infront of everyone else Among the fact that any sane person would make it quick and slit the throat or smth but hey its just a guess
there was a lot of ‘red sauce’ at the death scene and i doubt offing urself would end up like that 😭😭 also b4 that scene u can hear two screams, the muffled scream shows that there was a struggle and idk what would u be struggling with when offing urself…. so prob this isn’t the case
what are the odds it was clown pierce? He deadass asked Ivory to do the task with him rather than telling someone to do it or just doing it himself? It puts him in a position that assumes he was trying to get an alibi.
I think its one of 3 people, one ivory it could be she has mpd and one of whom is a psychopath or clownpierce who got resentful for some reason and is starting to destroy the family's name Or when ivory and clown went outside, she looked towards the forest she could have seen something or someone; I think that she saw some monster in the forest, and it lives there and that that's where the name whitepine comes from but still cant wait till ep 2 to find out
it 100% isnt ivory or clown since right before the findings of mysticats body there was a scream right before that which probably means they found the body after they got murdered (and ivory and clown were there with the staff so it couldnt have been them)
@@spartawhat2220 But that was just when the body was found; it could have been there for hours, or someone could have planted it there but i think there is a better chance of it being some monster in the woods It felt like they were hinting at that sometimes
@@rowancaprio3800 It was found in one of the main rooms, so anyone who woke up would have found it almost immediately. The earliest someone could wake would be 6am, and Ivory left at that time. She would have saw the body if it was commited at night. It had to have been commited when everyone was working, since then the murderer wouldn't be seen leaving the scene. This leads me to believe it was Mysty's scream, not a witnesses, as it would give the monster/murderer 20 seconds to get away (that was the time between the scream and when people got there). It's for this reason I don't believe it's Ivory. But, I do believe there might be some sort of accident in the future where Ivory might have a bit of blood on her hands, thanks to the poster for WHITEPINE. Overall: The body couldn't of been there for hours because someone would have seen it sooner, and even if it was planted there, it's almost as if the murderer wanted people to find it since it's in one of the main rooms, not the rooms that Serapter showed Ivory. Monster in the woods is a good theory, since Pyro is seen looking at the forest as if something is there.
@@ruskodog2706the only way that the body could have been planted there is if someone dropped it from above the stairs and ran into a room so the killer or killers would have dropped it from above ran into a room changed and A came out and blended in with everyone or they jumped out a window and went back in from a door my guess is that side door we see ivory and the other guy (I forgot his name lol) go out but I think the monster theory is still way more plasble I also don't know why they would put the body in that room like you said
no relation to whitepine at all, but this kinda reminds me of the danganronpa rp made by carflo where a character skidaddles through a bunch of stairs and leaves a big ketchup trail leading to their dead body
I know this is useless but I think it’s worth noting that very obviously white pine is a type of tree the manor/mansion is surrounded by a pine forest and ivory is a type of white or it could just be the white and brown of the mansions exterior
