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Who Counts as Black? | Tammi Mac Full Episode 

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Tammi and her guests are debating who can identify as Black and who should not. Plus, that and a lot more.
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@trulytru302
@trulytru302 Год назад
As an unambiguous black woman, no. You are black if both parents are black. you are biracial if you are biracial. I don't get excited when I see biracial people represent black people in media because I don't see myself in them.
@duanerichard
@duanerichard Год назад
I think if you if you can be grouped together phenotypically even with subcategories you can count as black. And biracial includes black so it is at least a partial win.
@BradsBabygirl2024
@BradsBabygirl2024 Год назад
This panel is clueless. As an unambiguous Black woman, I find the topic offensive. WTF?!!
@PHlophe
@PHlophe Год назад
this panel has people that would insist Mariah carey is lite skindededed and that black people come in all forms and shapes.
@prophetuncut
@prophetuncut Месяц назад
@@PHlophe I'll say Black people do come in all shades and colors. And Mariah Carey is biracial, she's Black and white. Easy math
@truthtella7642
@truthtella7642 27 дней назад
​@PHlophe We do come in different shades, just as they do on Africa. Africa is a large continent, and not everyone looks alike.
@amethyststone1678
@amethyststone1678 Год назад
What a silly question! Two black people equals a black offspring. One black person and one non black person equals a mixed race person. I honestly don't know how that cannot be comprehended. Geeezesh🙄
@BradsBabygirl2024
@BradsBabygirl2024 Год назад
Exactly! It’s not that hard to understand.
@myab1471
@myab1471 Год назад
Exactly
@lindam4953
@lindam4953 Год назад
Thank you!
@monadugas9113
@monadugas9113 Год назад
Well said.
@amethyststone1678
@amethyststone1678 Год назад
@@monadugas9113 ONLY BLACK MEN WHO WANT TO WEED OUT THE FULL BLOODED BLACK WOMEN CALL MIXED RACE WOMEN BLACK AND THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED A HATE CRIME BECAUSE ITS THE FIRST STEP TO WHAT I CALL SELF-INFLICTED CULTURAL GENOCIDE!!!!!😡😡
@anthonyx6995
@anthonyx6995 Год назад
Tammi, no disrespect intended, but you should revisit this topic with an intellectually (topically) stronger panel.
@PHlophe
@PHlophe Год назад
the panel gave us "all lives mattah" vibes. sweet people but very weak arguments
@carleeb2344
@carleeb2344 Год назад
Thank you! This whole panel was I see no color and the sista didn’t articulate any points completely
@urhyhnis
@urhyhnis Год назад
When will Tammi do an episode on ‘Who counts as White’ and bring have white panelists and some biracial folks and let’s see how quickly they tell you who is what if they’re not full European. Not one guest on this panel was intellectually equipped to discuss this topic.
@PHlophe
@PHlophe Год назад
most of the guests did not have a functioning brain cell between lol! they remind me of black people that call Italians "the other black". I am like ninja they don't eff with you like that they ain't family they never will be
@foreverfaithful2247
@foreverfaithful2247 Год назад
Where is Cynthia g. She can shut this down
@urhyhnis
@urhyhnis Год назад
They didn’t want her on because she would have definitely shut it all down.
@TaylahCapri
@TaylahCapri Год назад
💯
@chattyash
@chattyash Год назад
All the way to the flo !
@sonyasees1022
@sonyasees1022 Год назад
BLACK DOES NOT MEAN MIXED! WE HAVE BECOME HATERS OF THE BLACKNESS WHICH COMES FROM THE BLACK WOMAN!!! I'm still waiting for someone to tell what favors they do for black folks? What are we getting /gaining from them? Seems they are always copying off a Black woman's child and many of them become rich and famous from that.
@tammaraclark485
@tammaraclark485 7 месяцев назад
Two whites does not equal a BLACK or African. I agree totally!
@indigenous_by_blood8953
@indigenous_by_blood8953 Год назад
There's no fully "black" people on this panel. Where's the ADOS, FBA's, Indigenous, "Black Americans" etc at?!?!
@tiffanysmith2407
@tiffanysmith2407 Год назад
Being "not white" and "definitely not white" does not make you BLACK. It was interesting watching the actress be adamant about not reading for white roles, but still acknowledging that she reads for Black roles. She should not read for Black roles either, possibly taking opportunities from Black actresses (2 Black parents). Respectfully, she should read exclusively for roles created for bi-racial, mixed race, and multi-racial people. 🧐
@JjDakine2023
@JjDakine2023 7 месяцев назад
This is so silly 🙄
@deee3950
@deee3950 Год назад
Zendaya is biracial. She is not the first black anything
@sonyasees1022
@sonyasees1022 Год назад
facts. that gal aint been black a day in her life
@virtualbabe9171
@virtualbabe9171 Год назад
Her mom black or dad ?
@J-God_1999
@J-God_1999 Год назад
@@virtualbabe9171 Dad Nigerian & Mom Scottish/German. Do you think her dna is majority African or European?
@virtualbabe9171
@virtualbabe9171 Год назад
@@J-God_1999 it is mixed
@J-God_1999
@J-God_1999 Год назад
@@virtualbabe9171 Lol. All of our DNA is mixed....some more or less than others
@carleeb2344
@carleeb2344 Год назад
This is frustrating. The black women isn’t representing the issue properly
@chattyash
@chattyash Год назад
She said she’s mixed…. 😅
@33sN45s
@33sN45s Год назад
I would have loved to be on this panel for this question. This panel missed the mark.
@williambell4576
@williambell4576 Год назад
What point if you was on the show could have nailed it to explain this whole conversation, I am very interested in it. Please respond cuz I wouldn't mind being on the show too cuz I think they dropped the ball to be totally honest I never thought they had a ball anyway.
@Ceemoore3000
@Ceemoore3000 Год назад
I find Tammi has great topics but inept and uninformed panels which does a disservice to having a robust and productive discussion.
@williambell4576
@williambell4576 Год назад
@@Ceemoore3000 I'll agree 👍
@indigenous_by_blood8953
@indigenous_by_blood8953 Год назад
Absolutely they did and once again they didn't have a fully "black" American that has been through and has the family lineage that goes back in this country in order to fully speak on the this topic adequately. The systemic oppression and changing of who's who. You have a Haitian immigrant and two mixed raced people.
@edwinabeanum6640
@edwinabeanum6640 4 месяца назад
I think they represented well any other program or panel I viewed.
@betheone8292
@betheone8292 Год назад
This was not a good panel there was no contrasting argument.
@Juicetv22
@Juicetv22 Год назад
Why is it always a big conversation about mixed people being black but never a discussion about the other races that they are... because other races gatekeep their bloodline
@kevinmaxim
@kevinmaxim Год назад
This was not the best panel to discuss this topic. I don't want to call out anyone specific, but one of these just didn't seem.....*unable to find a gentler word*....smart.
@anthonyx6995
@anthonyx6995 Год назад
This panel was a let down. none of them had well thought out ideas or thoughts. for instance, one angle would have been, maybe we celebrate a black win or first when the person who wins or does it proclaims THEMSELF as black. black people have been saddled with the racist one drop rule for far too long. black is more than how you look. it's your spirit. your center. your identity. if a biracial person sees themself as black, then it's a black win. hell, if rachel dolezal genuinely sees herself as black, and attributes any wins or success to blackness, we should take that too. in slavery, white kids were raised by black slaves. a case could be made that black people owned whatever success the white kids grew to have. but i stand firm, it only counts as a black win or first when the person who does it claims black. period.
@LoveGoddess12
@LoveGoddess12 Год назад
*Mix is mix and monoracial is monoracial; Latino is not a race, Latino is a male and a Latina is a female person regardless of race a part of the Hispanic "culture"* .
@zukoher
@zukoher Год назад
Regardless to what they say, a mixed man can't speak for me.
@dangelooliver4086
@dangelooliver4086 8 месяцев назад
The girl in the blue needs to stop talking. She is all over the place.
@MsLotusBlooms
@MsLotusBlooms 2 месяца назад
I just learned that race is not defined by genetics anymore. It is all about what you as an idividual choose to identify as. The one drop rule was abolished in 1967. I have never felt much affiliation with the black culture, almost like I was forced to be a part of this group without warrant. I have spent my whole life duped into thinking I was relegated to the dungeon when the door was always open elsewhere unknowingly. So depressed that I missed out on a normal womanhood, life, opportunities, and significant relationships all because I thought I had to identify black. The next half of my life I am choosing to be something else. I prefer to have no racial category but if I have to choose something, it will be other. I have that right and I will exercise it.
@bc7015
@bc7015 Год назад
Des keeps contradicting herself...they're mixed not black...🤔🤔🤔✊🏽🙄🙄🙄
@kendricjonrs8581
@kendricjonrs8581 Год назад
' A Black of drop in you '
@nanettematthews2264
@nanettematthews2264 Год назад
In my opinion in general to a lesser degree furthermore to me...
@lilbit7156
@lilbit7156 Год назад
😂
@MsLotusBlooms
@MsLotusBlooms 2 месяца назад
No longer applies as of 1967
@christopherwalch6291
@christopherwalch6291 Год назад
These days, all black people who are NOT Republicans are considered the REAL, card-carrying black person.
@jesushateswood
@jesushateswood Год назад
Why were these particular guests selected for this topic? This was a wasted segment.
@shellymarie407
@shellymarie407 6 месяцев назад
if my paternal grandparents are fully black (coming from black parents), and my maternal grandparents are white and a Pacific Islander (Chinese, Philippine, and Hawaiian), and I have a “brown skin” child with a bm, should she identify as black being as though her phenotype actually portrays that of a black baby or multiracial like me?
@farrahdouglas8880
@farrahdouglas8880 6 месяцев назад
I have an interesting perspective on this and I truly hope its received and perhaps considered. I am canadian and of mixed decent. My father is a Canadian immigrant from Trinidad . He came to Canada at 17 I believe. My mother is Syrian and Lebanese. She was born in Canada to her immigrant parents. Because her family is so fair they pass very much as Italians, ir just caucasien. However my mother does look Arab. Anyways they all married french on their side and raised their families as french. The family last name was even changed to a French last name when HER father came to Canada. Anyways all this to say ,because my father came to Canada alone, Us 4 kids were raised very "Canadian ". French family get togethers. Sometimes there were some Lebanese influences, but for the most part we were just raised Canadian. Yes, I always knew I was mixed. I never tried to deny that. I grew up feeling lucky to have 2 cultures to celebrate. Although most of my dads culture I only really knew the food and music. At 13 when my parents divorced my father moved to LA and my 2 sisters and I went with him. I have NEVER in my life felt such racism and EMPHASIS on race until I moved to the USA. Suddenly I was no longer Farrah, I was defined by my race. In canada I knew what I was, I was never confused by that. Moving to LA my first week of school I was approached by about 30 black girls ready to attack me because I didn't "talk black" , dress black, listen to black music. This relentless séparation amd need to classify is very much an American issue . And in my opinion not healthy. That experience living there led me down a path of questioning who I was . I felt forced to act and dress a certain way to be accepted amd that brought me to what I called my 'aaliyah' phase lol. Eventually I came back around to who the real me was, but the experience still happened and it was not positive. In my years of dating in the states I had been insulted and even physically attacked by means of garbage thrown at me because of being in an interracial relationship. This hate and obsession with race will not stop if it's constantly being seen as a positive thing. I only felt all of these things being discussed as far as confusion, not fitting in etc, when I was in that environment I'm the US where there's such an emphasis on it. And trust me, there are plenty of black people in Canada so it has nothing to do with That. Anyway this is just food for thought. But I will say I appreciate the respectful way this conversation is happening on this episode because I have seen some that really made me sad for the human race
@lilbit7156
@lilbit7156 Год назад
Why am I not surprised the panel has no deeply melanated women. Smh
@emmaswan5306
@emmaswan5306 Год назад
This convo is extremely disingenuous. I can't stomach sitting through the entire thing. Des is being dishonest & willfully delusional; Mckenzie is McClueless, but she was raised by a white woman from a racist fam, so I don't expect her to comprehend; the DJ added a bit of comedic relief, but he also contradicted himself numerous times. This convo needs a pt.2 with actual/real black people. Meaning both parents are black (making their child at least 80% or more African decent). People who when asked, what color are you, they immediately understand - with no questions asked - black/African American is the only option available to them (not a mixture, not other, etc.). Preferable a hue of the darker skinned men/women being replaced; & definitely someone with a 4-year college degree or their own business. How is this the business of being black, but all 3 panelist openly stated their not fully black (even the 1 who looks black doesn't want to claim it - damn shame - but I'm not surprised). This Is America.
@nanettematthews2264
@nanettematthews2264 Год назад
Not McClueless!
@lolitafalana
@lolitafalana Год назад
This show features the most ignorant and inarticulate panelists they can find to have a discussion facilitated by a host with poor people skills. I've tried. I really have. This channel could really stand to improve their programming and who's featured on it.
@deee3950
@deee3950 Год назад
1 black person + 1 black person = black 1 biracial with black person + 1 black person = black Everyone else is not black
@CreoleLadisBluesLounge-kg8wu
@CreoleLadisBluesLounge-kg8wu Месяц назад
My son is majority black and I am not. I mark Black and Latin on our paperwork. We’re also indigenous and White. But majority of both of us is Black and Latin. So that’s how I mark it.
@MrChalaki
@MrChalaki 8 месяцев назад
These conversations could be so important but it’s always the wrong people on the panel. And then sometimes Tammie(as much as I like her) asks the wrong questions.
@indigenous_by_blood8953
@indigenous_by_blood8953 Год назад
I don't agree with DES I take that back
@RK_KNIGHT
@RK_KNIGHT 8 месяцев назад
For me mixed raced people are black, especially if they identify as so. Is the reason some black women feel different because of the light skin privilege ? but you also have light skin black people too.
@gregoryhertzog8796
@gregoryhertzog8796 9 месяцев назад
Ms.Tammi Mac to me is Wonderful Show ,Brilliant, supportive, uplifting, sound truthfully host😮😊❤😂 Missed your 📺 TV show on Fox 5 This year 2023. 🤔 thank you catch on You tube yesterday Monday last night,your topic from you FoxSoul Being Black the Business
@latyshal.2286
@latyshal.2286 Год назад
I respectfully disagree with the young woman Des that said you have to be 100% Black to be Black. If you're Black and your Ancestors were enslaved in this country (the U.S.), then you are not 100% Black; meaning you do not have 100% African DNA. Many of our female Ancestors were r*ped during slavery and as a result, your DNA is also composed of European DNA as well as DNA from other racial groups. If the majority of your DNA is mostly African DNA, then you are Black.
@J-God_1999
@J-God_1999 Год назад
Exactly, all of these comments and no one actually touched on this. Black Americans are basically mixed people with mostly African DNA, around 70% or so depending on their geographical location.
@PHlophe
@PHlophe Год назад
Latysha, what it means is that you are majority of african heritage , sediments of admixture don't even need to brough up. there are no blurry lines because caucasian and black
@J-God_1999
@J-God_1999 Год назад
@@PHlophe 100% or fully Black means you have "majority" African DNA? Meaning more than 50%? So....for example: Nigerian Father + Puerto Rican Mother = Fully black. Correct?
@PHlophe
@PHlophe Год назад
@@J-God_1999 You do have to have mostly African heritage to be considered Black and no 51% don't count . we don't do bean counting . not all puertorriqueño are equal genetically. If your parent is afro-boricuan then yeah you are close to the source material . same with Dominicanos . A good example is singer Syesha Mercado . Father is Boricua y su mama Afro-american. Just a look at phenotype indicates that she is close to the African source material.
@J-God_1999
@J-God_1999 Год назад
@@PHlophe Yes, Syesha Mercado is a good example. And you are right 51% might be too close to count but upwards 60% is definitely black to me.
@CreoleLadisBluesLounge-kg8wu
@CreoleLadisBluesLounge-kg8wu Месяц назад
If Black and Latin aren’t both being able to be marked at all … then I just mark Black. Bc my son is majority Black anyway. I’m not … But I am more Black than I am Latin. So whatevs. I just mark Black if Black and Latin aren’t both able to be marked. I identify as both though. Also, Afro American people are Americans that are of African descent. I am still the definition of Afro American. I am of an Afro Latin ethnic group Louisiana Creole. So if I’m marking Black it 99% of the time says Black / Afro American and doesn’t only apply to those that are majority Black. Those of us that aren’t majority are still within the Afro American classification.
@tammaraclark485
@tammaraclark485 7 месяцев назад
I disagree with thee are so many shades of Black and African when there is not. Reds, High Yella and more are not BLACK or AFRICAN. There is only one shade.
@duanerichard
@duanerichard Год назад
10:42 its a partial win for "pure blacks" it does count
@carleeb2344
@carleeb2344 Год назад
So if Mariah Carey a win for blacks
@J-God_1999
@J-God_1999 Год назад
Why not? Lol
@carleeb2344
@carleeb2344 Год назад
@@J-God_1999 she is not black. I also respect that she doesn’t claim to be black
@J-God_1999
@J-God_1999 Год назад
@@carleeb2344 What is she then? Latina? I always thought she was Black. Lol
@carleeb2344
@carleeb2344 Год назад
@@J-God_1999 she is mixed race. Why would you suggest Latina?
@J-God_1999
@J-God_1999 Год назад
@@carleeb2344 Oh. I'm mixed too but Black in America. Latina is always my second guess when I mistake someone as Black. I was guessing like Afro Latina...
@lamata2013
@lamata2013 Год назад
Biracial means two identities at once. Just like I am a black woman, and a black American woman, so three at once! I have a different experience than a black British woman, or a black Jamaican woman, or a black Nigerian man but there is a connection and common experience there. To identify as both, or all, or focus on one more than other sometimes is not negating one or the other.
@Alexis-li2rx
@Alexis-li2rx Год назад
Please tell me that you're being facetious. You do know that you are talking about race vs. nationality. A Black American and Black Jamaican, they are still Black within the African diaspora. Two races consists of for example, of African-American and Caucasian or Asian or Australoid. Nationality represent where a person is from (country). Furthermore, 1+1=2 and not 1.
@lamata2013
@lamata2013 Год назад
@@Alexis-li2rx Biracial black is in the diaspora, and people have been using black throughout this comment section. Race is a social construct created by colonizers, as is "black". 1+1= 2 only proves my point, thank you! Nationality is not just geography. People are proud of it because it tells of their experiences, which is why I bring it up. The argument that some are making that a biracial person cannot be Black in any way because it comes with a different experience ignores the fact that all people in the diaspora have both unique and common experiences. That's beautiful and no reason to other biracial people. You can be many things at once and they don't have to follow a template.
@J-God_1999
@J-God_1999 Год назад
@@Alexis-li2rx Just miseducated. A lot of people confuse race, nationality and ethnicity. It can be a little tricky. Lol
@chattyash
@chattyash Год назад
Bi (two) racial means two races. You can have a Black parent and a Jamaican parent and be Black. Or a Nigerian parent and Black parent and be Black.
@lamata2013
@lamata2013 Год назад
@@chattyash It's funny how you broke down Bi (two) but you didn't break down Race (?) Race is what people who hate you assigned to you, but go for it.
@chieftrice
@chieftrice Год назад
15 mark
@J-God_1999
@J-God_1999 Год назад
Fully Black, 100% Black IN America. OK 😂
@latyshal.2286
@latyshal.2286 Год назад
Right. lol
@bbcream9708
@bbcream9708 Год назад
what do you mean by that ??
@J-God_1999
@J-God_1999 Год назад
@@bbcream9708 I mean we Black Americans are not 100% or fully black. We usually have around 70 something % African DNA and 20 something % European DNA from our female ancestors being raped during slavery. The Black American is a mixed person. Some just may be more or less mixed with other races.
@kisha4040
@kisha4040 Год назад
@@J-God_1999 Black Americans are not mixed. Stop that foolishness. Biracial and Black are not the same. Having distant European DNA does not make us Black Americans the same as Biracials.
@J-God_1999
@J-God_1999 Год назад
@@kisha4040 Explain to me how 25% or so of European DNA is distant?? That means your dad or mom is biracial and your granddad or grandmother is full European. Your grandmother that is still alive as a white woman. Lol. Like I said some are mixed more or less than others. The example I gave applies to more Black Americans than you think….us black americans are not all the same too we just all have majority African dna but not 100%
@tahutira480
@tahutira480 Год назад
BO are so damn divisive even when it comes to allies🤦🏿‍♂️ they constantly run off help and then complain about not being accepted 🤦🏿‍♂️
@Ceemoore3000
@Ceemoore3000 Год назад
BO?
@JennHayden
@JennHayden Год назад
@@Ceemoore3000 no clue what they are talking about.
@carleeb2344
@carleeb2344 Год назад
Kamora Lee?
@vernonblyden822
@vernonblyden822 Год назад
You are who you identify as and who you represent.
@chocolateangel8743
@chocolateangel8743 Год назад
That's a load of crap. Mixed people and phenotypically-black people aren't genetically the same and don't have the same lived experience. Many mixed people claim black because they have no choice. Many times, they are uplifted over BP -- especially if the mixed person is a woman. White is a protected class. Mixed people don't really have an identity of their own and tend to ride the fence -- because it benefits them. This is especially true in entertainment.
@deesdees324
@deesdees324 Год назад
I feel like a fish. So I’m a fish now..
@siemone22
@siemone22 Год назад
So can I identify as a white woman? both of my parents are black by the way
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