Who has the best claim to the title of Roman Emperor? 

In the UK, Francois Graftieaux wants the DNA of the Queen because he claims that his father is a illegitimate child of Edward VIII. Can you do a video on that?

THE OTTOMANS DESTROYED BYZANTIUM, THEY HAVE NO CLAIM

King Felipe looks like the son of Tom Hanks and Mel Gibson. Does that count?

Donald Trump. MAGA 2020

so when you say Karl von Habsbrug the von is pronounced fon because V sunds like F i german

That would be King Felipe

so Donald Trump

@@jerrydickerson1111 Xi Jinping*

@@FabiWann Well technically, but the state of Russia has both the largest of the armies, and highest military power rating. In terms of nations. but in terms of monarchs, you are correct, King Felipe

@@Darren67299 does largest mean numbers or effectiveness? Because if it means the latter (and it does), Xi is a child compared to Trump.

True.

That sounds pretty spanish, and roman

A sad and beautiful truth at the same time.

He doesn't have the best claim. Ferd and Issy never payed Andrew for his Byzantine claims, thus they never actually bought them off from him.

But if Roman blood only runs in the veins of Italians

Es verdad, incluso podría reclamar la corona inglesa por haber sido Felipe 2 rey de Inglaterra

What could be more Roman than having a claim on all of Europe

Are you sure about that claim?

The gypsy King!😊

that would not only make him the rightful roman emperor, but an emperor of something even greater of rome! the emperor of europe!

Lately i have being revising and confirming that in fact the Spanish Empire has been one of the most influential European Empires post Rome. Due to the time period it lasted, the geographical limits, the economical power that lasted even after its political and military power had diminished, and its cultural, and (believe it or not) scientific contributions. It had come to my attention based on recent though i had on the importance of the Spaniard currency during centuries, the role of Spain in global trade and culture. The fact that Spain had one of the most interesting approaches to human rights prior to the modern era is remarkable as well as the importance of spaniard universities up to the nineteenth century.

Absolutely 💯, but there is a thing called Black Legend of Spain, started when other countries couldn't win on the battlefield so they started a propaganda campaign, which revived every time that was necessary for those other countries' interests. ( I like your summary a lot, I think I'm gonna borrow it 😉)

​@@henryytbthe Roman Empire and Spanish Empire are the two Greatests

@@fernandogarcia3957 Those people who believe and promote that have fallen asleep in all history classes.

@@nicolasrodriguezmartinez4613 There is a reason for the phrase: Spain, the third Rome.

Easily best comment here.

underrated

just because is Spain?

@@astrofabio68 It's a reference to some pretty awesome comedy.

🤣

Is that a one piece reference?

@@nameless5646 Not sure, but its a meme that the true successor to Rome is 'the friends we make along the way' or an obscure country or person.

Flynn Tom 😂

Caesar would kill them all

@@marcospedroza7184 Pirates?

What Capetian dynasty please ?

@@twanabaiz9516 The house of Bourbon is a branch of the House of Capet that ruled France for almost all of its post-Frankish monarchical history. The house of Capet is also a branch of the Robertians, the line that Charlemagne belonged to. The main Capet branch ruled France until the late 1200s, the Valois branch of the Capetians ruled until 1589, and the the Bourbons ruled France until the French Revolution. After the war of Spanish Succesuon, the Spanish throne was also occupied by a Bourbon until today. Therefore, he can trace his heritage back through the Capets to Charlemagne.

The holy roman empire has nothing to do with Rome, neither do the Capetians, nor the Carolingians.

@@EvilSmonker Some people considered it the heir to Rome, even though it really isn;t, and, and Charlemagne was the first Holy Roman Emperor, and he was a Carolingian

@@avyay9818 I realize that some people think they are, but I believe there is little reason to think that besides a western european centric world view that discounts the eastern roman empire’s legitimacy.

Of those introduced in the video, again the King of Spain is the one who could have had all those resources. Don't worry, it's only a an entertaining exercise, but it doesn't hurt anyone, I think, to acknowledge the fact that the rightful heir is His Majesty the King Felipe VI of Spain (and many other territories by tradition and officially...)

Also there hasn't been an Roman Empire for over 1500 years. People over here arguing about an artificial linage to a non-existent empire like it matters.

⁠@@andyaustin3323Correction: 500 years and good joke.

Yeah only during periods like the crisis of the third century

THANK YOU SIR

What evil have I done?

Ave, Emperor Jeff Bezos!

@@kiharapata LOLOL who says that nero or caligula ? or was it another one....oh maybe it was the dick who bought the throne? after the prats auctioned it -.....didius julianus or someshit?

@@420judaspriest I think the Praetorian Guard killed the Emperor for being cheap and put the throne up for sale. Some Noble bought it for like 15 minutes. Some General said 'I don't think so' and marched in and took power. The Noble who thought he could buy power last words were "What evil have I done?" because he said he didn't kill anybody or did anything that bad. The General didn't feel he could let the guy live so the seemingly opportunistic Noble was executed. Don't remember the names of the principals but they were not that well recognized. Not "history famous" like the guys you mentioned.

Guilherme Pata being rich

MashPatayta I love this comment lol

Reminds me of Emperor Norton.

a descendant of the emperor of rome is an accountant, incredible lmao

Help Me isn’t it Biggus Dickus?

If he's an accountant in the economic shithole that is California i'm sure he's fit for the job, at least he knows a lot about inflation

When you also know that he has the title of King of Jerusalem too you will be amazed jajajajajaja KING OF JERUSALEM (crusaders)

Wasn't Charlemagne the successor of Rome. Tht makes france

@@wingedhussar1453 The king of Spain is a descendant of Charlemagne

@marie7622 I mean a random bloke in france now could be descend of Charlemagne

Trajan was from an Italian family from Umbria. Marcus Aurelius was born in Italy to an Italian family as well. Maybe Hadrian and definitely Theodosius are Spanish. But the other two are not.

Historic Science, Dammit!

You mean in the mausoleum?

*Lenin is his display case :-)

how many lennins are still there?

@@LoneStar48 Not nearly enough.

I am pretty sure that felipe wild have quite the high ground over his rivals😅

You wanna put the spanish one in a civil war dispute? Are you sure that would be fair with the other contenders?

*world war.

The Habsburgs would win simply by marrying everyone and putting their kids in the will.

@@GlobalWarmingSkeptic Which kid? Now that's the question!

Marry her AND YOUR CHILDREN IS GOING TO BE THE ROMAN EMPEROR

@@elpibelol5005 not even close

Varangian Gaming if you kill the right people hell yeah

Ferdinand Zvonimir?

Well tecnically almost every european is descendant of some nobility, so you can genocide your way into most thrones.

And, which is the most important matter, the LEGAL right. Felipe is the legal heir, the one who could show official and historical treatrises, documents and testaments of his ancestors, being them righteous, properly crowned holy roman emperors by popes.

MrSludov Felipe is from the bourbon house not the Habsburg which can not really give him a claim. The Russians maybe by the house of Ivan but not romonavs the ottomans maybe because they married lines of Byzantine princesses and they also had Constantinople which was known as the “pure Rome” and the Habsburg yes because the owned Roman lands even that doesn’t really give them a claim. Napoleon no no no. So really it’s just the ottomans and Habsburg and maybe the Russians.

@@warman8230 Salah, the claim of Felipe would be suported in the fact that the the last Byzantine emperor LEGALY passed the title in his testament to Fernando and Isabel of Spain.

Conquest is all the Romans respected.

@@MrSludov philippe the sixth of Spain will go straight to hell due to bull bullfighting practice!!!

Only one is capable of raising one 🤷‍♂️

@@SacchieILU Turkey France or Russia could all do that.

@@HVLLOWS1999 Turkey, France, and Russia are not led by the Osmans, Bonapartists, or Romanovs.

@@SacchieILU Spain aint go no big army anymore, Italy's army is stronger.

@@SacchieILU Yeah? Which one? The monarchy in Spain is really weak, so Felipe certainly can't...

but rome's in italy though, not spain. the italian guy should get it (rome is in italy)

@@ausore9832 that’s not how it works

@@user-hl6ls8sv4t yeah it is

@@ausore9832 no

@@user-hl6ls8sv4t ye

If Spain somehow manages to overshadow France and Germany in the EU, I think that would be a neo-roman empire

True, we all agree on Felipe VI, but... how do we bring back the Roman Empire? Do we proceed to arrange a referendum in Rome? Come on folks, bring up some ideas! Looking forward to the Neo-Roman Empire.

@@user-yi3cv3ep5j yes I’ve come to the conclusion that the only legitimate successor has to come through the Holy Roman Catholic Church

We already has the European Union, while there is no office title "Leader of European Union" but there is several President position Spanish King can eligible to be in. So ironically it will be the Holy Roman Empire style of government again, but this time with the proper Roman Emperor as the head of state

just get the pope to crown him or something

All he needs to do now is adopt Jean-Christophe Napoleon and the Western Roman Empire is back in business.

​ Chris Mullen Then just invade some contries (Portugal, Andorra Monaco and Belgium are easy) and would control like half of all that the western roman empire ever had

@@Seneka51 Jean-Christophe Napoléon will never be a child of Felipe nor will ever represent Spain nor will ever a puppet of anyone, let alone Felipe. He is French. He is a descendant of Napoléon. How dare you?

Bro learn to take comments that are somewhat offensive to you

Did you just called Felipe... Phillip?

UUH I LOVE THIS PART!

Becomes Emperors* >Get shanked by the praetorioan guard and their commander replaces you

its the 21st century, either 1v1 in a game, a rap battle or a dance battle japanese shord fights are also acceptable i would pay to see any of those

Don't forget flat out assassination.

Lol China probably had 20x more civil wars I think at one point they had a civil war every time an emperor died

Right! The Romans loved law. Felipe would make the best statue and I think he has the best army in Europe. Plus he speaks a Latin language.

@@oldtimetinfoilhatwearer Don't forget that Roman's could and did select heirs not of their blood. If this was ancient Rome, I could walk out on the street grab a kid, and with the proper paperwork, declare them my heir. So Felipe wins in blood, documents, and Roman style.

Gabe Morehouse best army in europe ? Someone doesn’t know about France, UK, Turkey, Germany and Italy. These are the countries with a better military than Spain currently.

+chris. Felipe does not have the best claim of Roman Emperor. And, he does not secure The Roman Emperor look. He does not even look like a Roman Emperor for you to claim this.

@@oldtimetinfoilhatwearer Wrong! The Romans loved law that they created themselves. Felipe would not make the best statue. He does not have a good army in Europe nor The World nor existence. Plus, Jean-Christophe Napoléon speaks a Latin Language, too. The Latin Language spoken by Jean-Christophe Napoléon is named, French.

Magnificent

Everyone hire a gladiator

Who can be the conqueror

It has been resolved. We plebes would never know. It doesn't concern us.

Paul Maupin spoken like a true roman emperor

Did he? Haha

Yes, it is true, the countess Olympia von und zu Arco-Zinneberg, daughter of archduchess Maria-Beatrix von Habsburg and great-granddaughter of Karl I Habsburg, last emperor of Austria-Hungary

Jorge Vargas Caporali 😵😵😵

@@willmosse3684 Yes, he did so at the Invalides, where Napoléon is burried aha

The Brazilian Imperial House has Habsburg blood from D. Leopoldina, what means that IF every claimer of the Roman Emperor Title die then the claimer of the Brazilian Throne would be also the claimer of the Roman Throne Btw it will never happen

You forgot that what makes him more legitimate is that monarchs inherited it without force just given by the Nephew of the Emperor somehow inherited his uncle's title

Don't forget the beard. 😜

Romans never had Kings, Capet are French - French are regarded as completely foreign people in Europe whom Justinian wanted to exterminate

@@WizavPRO As if you never heard the Roman kingdom

@@WizavPROSpanish you mean he dint said the french

Hahaha

He looks exactly like a Roman sculpture

Jean-Christophe looks æons more classically ‘Roman’ than the eh’Spaneesh guy. No competition.

@@Floral_Green He Kinda resembles Constantine

@Timothy Callanan Naww

Through Russian royalty he’ll also have Constantine XI as an ancestor

-A Spanish

@@Annnto that’s not a fact it’s an opinion because there can be no way to objectively claim a legitimate emperor, I was mostly pointing out the obvious bias of a Spanish person proclaiming it. I’m pretty sure if you dive into genealogy as much there will be people with similar characteristics but they video didn’t. And by the way half of my family is originally from Spain just a couple generations back, so I have no reason to envy Spain. Think harder, thought is not a linear process it’s more like a web stop being so linear

@@MacetazzOpina still a fact? Dude she is still alive if i’m not wrong, and the op is talking about probability

Plus, the Spanish Royal Family also has roots from the Habsburg Dynasty and has had many marriages with Austrians later on. They're also from the Bourbon dynasty from France

I wanted to like, but you were at 69 likes. Sorry little one

John Levin not anymore you can like now

Historians: "this means nothing" Spanish dude's father: "Why won't you shut up?" =]

King Juan Carlos was the Holy Roman Emperor. Who has succeeded him? Juan Carlos is the sperm donor of Prince William.

He's not the roman emperor, he's a very naughty boy!

Not only that, but also by blood on both sides due to their relation to Bourbon, Habsburgs, charlemagne and even the Rurikids

Sure your words are true but not when you are getting conquered. That's why I'm going with the Ottomans candidate

@@napolien1310 I agree. I was simply pointing out that the Legal course of it does infact go with the Spanish. But the last Qaiser-e-Rum were the Ottomans. Therefore I also support them.

@@khudaidadkhan1178 oh ok

@@napolien1310 But... Ottoman empire is also broke apart

10th Roman Civil War? Confirm?

They would argue who would be emperor and then form their own factions before the pretorian guard kills everybody and choses a third candidate nobody thought about.

@@fristnamelastname5549 10th? More like the 150th

@Jan Sitkowski well the only remnants of the senate would be the Italian legislature, so i guess the ball is in their court now.

@Jan Sitkowski well it certainly resembles an empire in collapse anyway

Felipe VI has already the title of Byzantine emperor and king of Jerusalem too.

@Jason Sehorn nope

He also is a bourbon of the legitamist line, giving him another claim though as the French crown is derived from East Francia, itself splintered from Charlemagne's empire, as well as also being given the titles from Andreas Palailogos, fusing the titles of Roman Emperor to Phillipe VI, or Augustus Philippus Iohannes Paullus Alphonsus, or Felipe III and VIII in English.

His name is not on that paper

Obviously. We're talking about his lineage, not him as an individual.

@@marcmoris3590 But those titles are on the papers that left him as King of Spain, which also (surprise) also contains titles his lineage has, who knew that when you inherit something you can also give it to someone else to inherit?

no joke I seen him just a few days ago in Cordoba while I was drinking no idea what was hapenning until someone said that is the king of spain. Amazing how they rocked up like that with very little organisation. Guess it means I seen my first Roman emperor lol.

How cool, you have no social life and neglect your friends because you'd rather watch videos alone

@@dominikweber4305 you’re watching the video so you obviously think it’s interesting💀

@@nickweimer2118 yes but they're commenting on the weird attempt at a brag that just comes across as arrogant and sad, not the act of watching the video.

Thats literally what i did just now lmfao

@N Gaming Romulus wasn’t chosen by the senate?

And also is the King of Jerusalem 😂

When you're so early that he is called Gaius Octavianus

..the last true emperor of Rome...Romulus..

When Romulus Augustus was deposed and retired, his insignia was sent to the Eastern Empire so technically the Empire was reunited. The Goths ruled Italy in the Eastern Empire's name, if not so much in actuality....

@@fluffytom82 I read Augustus and my mind jumped the gap 🤦‍♂️

@@fluffytom82 He's confusing the last Augustus for the first

wrong, pride and blood are two most important things for romans, from all heirs spain is the one that deserves the least, if anyone should be emperor of rome although it is impossible because once something is dead you can revive it ever, it would be Italy or Great Britain.

@@paranoidman15 actually as I said adoption was a method largely used to choose your own heir in Rome, so blood wasn’t that important. If you look at the golden age of the empire, most of the emperors weren’t their predecessors sons.

@@giulia480 that's true, but the heirs are still chosen based on spiritual bond which is close to blood, and Spanish King was chosen to heir to Rome because of desperate attempt to gain their attention so that they would fight the Ottomans.

@@paranoidman15 Great britain more than spain? haha Seriously? Spain inherited more from Rome than it is, and as far as I know there was never a Breton emperor, nor is a Latin language spoken there, I'm sure you are English x "d

even france would be a better candidate lol

Technically, if I'm reading well, that was the Hasburg dinasty the ones that inheritage the Holy Roman Empire, but they died by f*cking with cousins so now Spain have a French dinasty called Burbon

@Frx bx01 you didn't watch the video then. @usefulcharts already said there was a direct line from Philipe VI to the original transfer of the imperial title. This means the king of spain inherits that title despite being a bourbon not a trastamara.

@Frx bx01 you do not understand what you are saying and I feel sorry for you.

@Frx bx01 It seems someone skipped the 2:25 mark here...

Technically it’s be Trump since the only country on earth closest to the absolute domination culturally, economically and militarily as Rome was in the ancient era is the United States in the modern era, therefore the most powerful person in Rome would be akin to the most powerful person in the USA...Trump so all Hail Trump Emperor of the USA

@John Smith i know you are joking, but dont put Caesar in the same sentence as this soy boy called trump.

@John Smith Trump only commands the puny colonial legions, he doesn't count.

A.J. Bensinger I don’t think the Romans would like a Non Roman to lead them. Just saying.

@John Smith the consuls controlled the legions.

@@Mardek775 happened all the time...

If I am right, turkish culture changes the name of country so Ottoman Empire could have been in fact Byzantine Empire, but claim of any title lasts only to grandchildren of current ruler, so the head of Ottoman dynasty have no claim to it. We can only wait for another crusade which could restore the Latin Empire.

Well, King Felipe has 26 kingdom level titles, holds 8 duchies and 1 arcduchy and probably has tons of prestige (although his marriage to a commoner would have cost him a buttload of prestige), so he is the best candidate!

that game. . .is amazing lmao omg, I once caught myself saying " crap I'm my wife now " lmao that games makes you say the craziest shit " how do I kill my son, I need him dead " XD good times. . . good times

@@jakubbezimienia6449 The turks conqured byzantine so no not fit for rome emperor title if were enemies of it

glitterhoof is the best candidate

Think of it....Dwane The Scorpion Emperor!

Added bonus: if the Rock becomes the Roman Emperor, we get Wrestlemania at the Colosseum

Would that mean that any school sponsored by the Imperator would be... a School of Rock?

@@skoshman1 Yes. In fact he would employ Jack Black as whatever the Roman equivalent of Education Secretary was

Go forth Dwayne, son of John, Head of your house of Rock, and claim your throne.

How many time did it took to you to write this comment?

@@crthnorsp for his mental health I hope he just copy pasted it

Por mucho leer y poco dormir, se le secó el cerebro.

Hey you forgot all the titles he gets from being after hundreds of roman emperor

and the legitime king of portugal and al it's lands

Same fam... same.

... and he would look best in the crown and robes.

Same here.

I know right !!!

Roman Emperors chose their successors so imo Spain makes most sense.

yes, the Spanish basically brought the roman law to America, and did what Rome did, they brought and funded institutions based on Rome to the new world.

Spain also followed in with many other traditions: * Exploited the valuable minerals from their conquered lands, just like the Romans did to Spain * Built an extravagant multicultural empire, THE superpower of their respective era, with a very self-serving mindset * Had a long decline until a rising great power dealt the final blow (for Spain: Spanish-American War) * Theocratic rule (Christian Rome, Christian Spain) * Spain built up on the old Roman saying NON PLVS VLTRA (nothing beyond [the Pillars of Hercules/ Strait of Gibraltar]) and really had quite the extravagant PLVS VLTRA (their New World conquests)

@@LucarioBoricua El imperio Español fue el último imperio clásico, digno heredero del Romano en lo colonial como en lo militar y a mi parecer hicieron mas bien que mal en América. Dudo mucho que la palabra "Boricua" hubiese llegado hasta nuestros días bajo otros imperios coloniales de la época

@@OverthinkerYT PLUS ULTRA el sol no se ponia en el imperio español

@@LucarioBoricua Stay mad

Also they are descended from Charlemagne, albeit through a female line, so they have a claim even if you think the HRE was the successor to Rome, because the mother of the first count of hapsburg was a direct descendant of Charlamagne and a hapsburg married into the Bourbon family, which still rules Spain.

They've also still got decently roman looking architecture.

Yeah no thanks they tried with France and they failed miserably go for Bonaparte

@@crframe738 most Europeans are descended from Charlemagne

Also one of the best Roman Emperors, Trajan, was born in a city called Italica close to modern day Seville, so it wouldn't be that strange to have a spanish roman emperor

Aged like milk

x2

Exactly

Hum CONQUERED BY NAPOLEON hum

Jack Rackham at least acknowledged the Spanish claim and said there's a pretty good argument for it, but dismissed it on the grounds that they never really pressed the claim.

i'd say it was the hapsburgs or maybe napoleon over the spanish claim but imo the spanish claim to the byzantine throne is the most legit one. i think that the byzantine empire was a bit too different from the roman empire to call it the roman empire. i also like the fact that the holy roman empire and spain are the two places that are actually roman catholcis

I think "Roman Empire" is something we couldn't really go with, I think you would have to differentiate between western and eastern roman Empire. The HRE existed besides the Byzantine (eastern roman empire) so if we accept their claim to the roman empire title it would only be that of west Rome Following the arguments for the Spanish those would be the Eastern Roman Empire So I think we would have a eastern roman empire in Spain and a western roman empire in Austria for maximum confusion.

Whatever I say will turn into heated debate full of anger and hate - but truth is, Spaniards are Visigoths who settled from North to South - Favila, Pelayo, Mauregato are Visigoths and modern Spaniards are completely unrelated to Roman world just like French or Italians (who are also French). Keep in mind that any relation to Germanic peoples and race makes you automatically disqualified

@@WizavPRO nonsense. Many of the late western roman emperors had germanic or otherwise "non-roman" descent. Even earlier in fact, Aurelian (restitutor orbis) for example wasn't even born in roman territory.

Carlos 5 was also spanish king

Nope, if the last byzantine emperor had a will to pass the throne to Isabella and Ferdinand of Aragon. their grandson Charles 5 Hapsburg's line is the better one. so, it should pass to Karl Hapsburg. because it was the French who set up a king in Spain after wars of Spanish succession. and he is of the bourbon dynasty. The current king of Spain is also of the bourbon clan. and coming to Russia the blood line of Byzantines has already faded away. As many times the throne was passed to others other than the dynastic rulers hereditary line. it is not a good idea. Through the imperial families it should be a Hapsburg.

Maybe because trajan was from Spain

@@danielrojas-db9nq and Hadrian too.

i look almost exactly like Caracalla

Rather Hadrian or Marcus Aurelius. Trajan didn't wear beard. Ask to Mary Beard.

Did actual emperors look like actual emperors, though?

Philip Arvanitidis the Hapsburgs, Osmans, Napoleons, and Romanovs have nothing to do with Rome either? They all just took on the name because of its great history. If anything being a descendant of Charlemagne has by far the best claim as he and his successors were crowned by the still very Roman Pope when the Catholic Church was still the official religion of the actual intact Roman Empire. All the others claims were either manufactured later or rely on the title of Holy Roman Empire. The only better claim would be a direct heir of the Byzantines or old Roman Empire.

@Philip Arvanitidis That quote which is so often spoken by the masses was created by Voltaire, an opponent to monarchy in general. He looked at the Holy Roman Empire of his time, and saw that it was, at his time, neither Holy, Roman, nor an empire. What he neglected to inform the masses of, was that in it's creation, it held the city of Rome, it had inflated borders, ruling what many would consider areas which would certainly constitute it being known as an empire, and its original leader was crowned by the pope himself, quite holy if I do say so myself. Yes the late "Holy Roman Empire" was neither Holy, Roman nor an Empire. But the original entity Ruled by Charlemagne, which later became what we know as the "Holy Roman Empire" was in fact in possession of Rome, of Empirical statute, and granted its titles by the greatest Holy authority on earth at the time (if we're roman catholic). Which I would consider to makes it Holy, Roman and an Empire. If king Felipe VI of Spain has a direct succession from a legal standpoint, and is descended from BOTH Charlemagne and the Byzantine Emperors, how could you possibly try to argue that any line has any more of a claim to the title of Roman emperor than he does?

@Philip Arvanitidis--the Holy Roman Empire was neither holy, nor Roman, nor an empire.

He's also descended from Hugh Capet, Louis XIV,Charles V,Queen Victoria,even William the Conqueror,

@Philip Arvanitidis yes u are right. fun fact though : there was a Roman (Gallo-Roman) senator named Tonantius Ferreolus who is a patrilineal ancestor of Charlemagne. Therefore Felipe is descended from him as well,not an Emperor but a Roman indeed. Hes probably linked to a Roman emperor somehow probably but is highly likely we will never know

You missed the fact that before the spanish throne was habsburg. And there were several wars between bourbone and habsurgs. War of succession in 1700 and the carlist wars during the 19th century. So the spanish have claims to both sides following the logic that they have habsburg heritage and legal claim through heritage in the will of the last eastern emperor.

Also via the Bourbon’s parent family the Capets the Bourbons can trace their lineage to the Rurikids who did marry at least one member of a Byzantine ruling family and via the Habsburgs they can also trace their lineage to another Byzantine royal family. So technically the Bourbons and the Habsburgs have strong claims to the Roman throne. However the Russians can also trace their lineage to the Rurikids, like I mentioned above, who had married at least one Byzantine princess meaning that if a blood connection was required these three houses would have possibly the strongest claims to the defunct Roman throne. But a fair number of Roman emperors weren’t necessarily related to one another so if we base it on merit then the Bonapartes would be strong claimants to the throne.

@@herrlizuain70 The bourbons reigning in spain already had claims for the Habsburg titles of the spanish crown. I know it's confusing as hell but if I rememeber correctly Felipe V was related to the spanish crown by his grandma. So technically both claims could be valid.

But the Ottomans are no more.

House of Bourbon has no lineage to Charlemagne and the Carolingian dynasty. The French branch died out with Charles, Duke of Lower Lorraine. Who intermarried with Carolingians were the saxon Liudolfings, with Otto I. being crowned first Holy Roman Emperor. After the death of the Lidudolfings came the Salian dynasty which had actual frankish origins like Charlemagne. The last dukes of Franconia were also vying for control of the HRE crown.

@Emperor Louis The Retard no he is samoan

@Emperor Louis The Retard He has the best claim to Samoas Cocoa and Coconut exports limited. He'll have the biggest fale in Samoa.

Emperor Dwayne the Rock of Johnson

“It doesn’t matter who the emperor is!”

or Tom Hanks!

That means king Felipe VI of Spain because he's the only one that is the leader of an actual army

it just kinda matters. Sometimes the Emperor was voted on by the Senate, sometimes they just barged in with their army and were like "hey I am the emperor now", sometimes the heir was picked by the previous emperor (could be a family member, best friend, or some bloke off the streets), sometimes it was decided after a civil war, and sometimes the emperor was place as a puppet either by the Senate or a general with a big army.

The Roman Emperor was decided by power, not by law or blood. The current empire of Europe (The European Union) and therefore the Roman Empire is run by Ursula von der Leyen. She is the president of Europe and so she is the current Roman Emperor.

In that case, Felipe VI, since he's the only modern heir who actually has an army

So... Roman Emperor Xi?

EXACLTY my thought

LOL, it's just a thought exercise!

*All statements from historians should be taken with a grain of salt*

Very true, upsets me to see it but I think worldview plays a bigger role than cultural bias when making this opinion, both of which (influences) are backed by the same decision.

@@rashidsabri7319 due to it's nature, history is always biased towards someone .

His first cousin Pavlos of Greece; looks very kingly to me as well.

The argument that when ottomans conquered, Thomas went into exile and took the empire within him has merit

I'm not gay but I'd totally blow Jean Christophe

@@vmaldia good claim, however weaker than the ones here.

ALSO APART FROM THE UK SPAIN HAD THE BIGGER EMPIRE EVER.

its so obvious.... i was angry at the "historians" there... emperor has to come from within the already existing empire.... you can never choose conqueror legitimate

Im not sure if thats possible

>So unless someone comes along with a bigger stick to beat King Felipe with *Star Spangled Banner begins playing*

@N Gaming you are right and wrong... its true that senate chose Emperor but not on their own will but rather forced to choose whoever the original emperor wished or were made to appoint somebody by army... they were often sons... so, in the end with Senate gone we can easily extrapolate to hereditary succession = King Felipe

@N Gaming well yes, the entire point of the video is to figure out who have the best case, not who is actually the real emperor... Felipe has still the best claim... you kinda missing the point here

Yeah, I read that the word "Byzantine" has only been used since the 1800s.

The Greekest Romans ever.

Byzantine was from Byzantium, a name of a place. It was thought to be the first name of istanbul just before it was called constantinople

They were Greek, but referred to themselves as the Roman Empire, and many other states referred to them as the Roman Empire as well.

@@rhombusgil It might have been settled and named something else even before that.

You don't have to look at who should hold the title to find ways Rome is still relevant. From the language we speak to the religion that whether we like it or not shaped much of our culture, the legacy of Rome is baked into a lot of our lives.

@@86soup 2 is plural

@@86soup Yes Rome has has existed for thousands of years....

600 years* considering the Eastern Empire

The Roman Empire was also a meritocracy, it never managed to establish a lasting dynasty and the reason why they never did, is because Rome was totally against the idea of a monarch, that was the reason for the assassination of Caesar and the civil was So an Emperor based on birth right is against the very foundation of the Roman traditions

You two missed the point. Did the Emperor of Rome (including Byzantine) have the legal authority to name their successor? The answer is yes. Whether this was respected after their death is entirely a different matter.

@@Hemuro4ever this is in effect a moot point if then the successor is removed at will. It's like saying you can make a will but then when they read it don't expect it to be carried out. Well then it is pretty pointless. I am sure you can always make a will, the problem is if it is respected The emperors of Rome actually didn't that's why they tried to work around the issue by naming co-emperors. That didn't work. In the Easter Roman Empire it finally worked because the state had degenerated into a monarchical structure were the senate had no real value. That's in fact one of the main differences between the Western and the Eastern parts of the Empire

@@canemcave Right. Because no two Roman Emperors where from the same family. It's like the Papacy, where no ruler has ever left their charge to a family member!

@@raysc0089 they have tried but in those cases, with poor results. Some people always try to build absolute monarchies based on inheritance. It's a way to create hierarchies, privileges and aristocracies. Remember that princeps meant first, supposedly first among equals. if it's first it's not equal. But in the Roman Empire there was always a counterbalancing force. This is the form of government the Republic of Venice adopted and it's the form that we have adopted. I see a worrying trend today with the feminist agenda based on humans are equal but some humans are more equal than others or in other words female first.

(Alledgedly) spoken by Pompey during the siege of a fortress loyal to cesar in the civil war. Those were the words of a terroristic rebel/freedom fighter (depending on perspective). Most romans were quite the opposite, they took pride in their legalism.

Patrician Romans , Like any othr corrupt aristocratic group through-out hstory , quotd Laws and ruLes whn-evr suitd thm, but wr fast quik to dsmis Laws ruLes whn-evr convnient

@@mikeottawa8158 did you overdose on stupid pills?

@@mikeottawa8158 Why do you hate vowels so much?

My heart wants to believe King Felipe is the rightful heir. But my head tells me it's Dundar ali Osman. After all, legalism is all well and good, but even in Roman law, possession is 9/10ths of the law. If a man murdered the previous emperor and was proclaimed the new emperor by the religious leaders and the military... he was emperor. There are many examples from Roman history of such usurpers.