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@Ginadi Hutama not necessarily true. It's weird, because it is stated that Amaterasu was driven back by Sefar. On the other hand, however, Amaterasu is stated to rival Velber itself, which makes no sense if she could lose to one of the individual cells velber sent out. Also, depending on how much stock you put into the number that get thrown out in materials, Amaterasu is stated to be 387,420,489 to Sefar's 300,000,000. So yeah, there's technically more evidence that Amaterasu wins, but not really clear cut either way. Regardless, the fact that there's an argument at all is more than can be said for most of the verse.
Just for people who don't get why Nero is a beast. In hebbrew there is no numbers just letters with numeric value, like A=1 for example. Nero ( the actual emperor) was very keen on the persecution of christians, so it is theorized that when they wrote "the let him count the number of the beast; for it is the number of a man: and his number is Six hundred and sixty and six." The number when accounted by it's numeric value equals "Nero Caezar" (Nero emperor). And for the exaltly same reason Nrvnqsr ( who reads "nero") from the original Tsukihime was given this name, for he had 666 beasts inside him. As for the design of the Noble Phantasm and the Beast Nero, it is also a reference to the book of revelations where Rome (Build on seven Hills and controlled by Nero) was the interpretation of Revelations 13 :1"And I saw a beast rise out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns" and Revelations 17:4 "The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and was glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls. She held a golden cup in her hand, filled with abominable things and the filth of her adulteries." - 17:5 "and upon her forehead was a name written: Mystery, Babylon the Great, Mother of Harlots and Abominations of the Earth. " The design was perfect, and to me, finally justify making Nero a woman on the Fate universe.
I love how much FGO is inspired by the Bible/Bible related characters. Before it was the go to place of homophobes and misogynists, it has been filled with mysteries and lore about today's world and its morals. I'd really love to see Type-Moon explore it more
@@rotonek2887 what the heck is a woke ? Also, the Christian lore and hence Jesus are canon in the Nasuverse. It was stated that Jesus can manifest in the Saver class, and if that was the case Queen Draco would have Class advantage against Him. He also gave Martha Rider the cross she fights with, and the spear Percival wields is sacred to begin with because it touched Jesus' blood. But there is no scenario where Jesus joins the fight even for Nasu
So funnily enough, until Draco "abducted" us, we (Chaldea) never knew that "this" parallel world with Sodoms Beast existed, but they (the other Chaldea) knew about us.
I think Nebuchadnezzar probably had the biggest power boost of any character in the entire fate franchise he went from being a normal human to become a strong as he is sure he didn't do anything to get that power but it's still a very impressive power jump.
Arthur: *chasing Beast VI L and R* Merlin but Gril: "eyoh you busy?" Arthur: "yeah.. kinda" Merlin: "cool.. ima just teleport you to where I am right now, we kinda of have a situation at the moment" Arthur: "MERLIN WHAT THE FU-"
@@NoOne-Belongs nope. Beast 666 actually split into L and R to try and lose Arthur from it's tail.. unfortunately when that happens it triggers S and G to show up too which is admittedly odd since that implies Beast VI has 4 different incarnations
@@NoOne-Belongs wait! correction Beast VI does NOT have 4 incarnations it split itself into L and R but unlike Beast III it's L and R are reffered to as Sodom of Gomorrah, VI/S and VI/G apparently all Beasts have an L and an R it just so happens that III has Lapse and Rapture and VI has Sodom and Gomorrah meaning that while any beast can split itself into L and R they will then be reffered to in a different manner
@@AJLaz000 also the fact that with this event+draco specifically, we find out that for beast 6 S/G to emerge, beast 3 L and R have to emerge. That's why Arthur was chasing them so he can kill them and find his true target, beast 6/G
with all the demons roaming around in fate im hoping that we get some angels at some point. personally i would like to start with Metatron because he could be a sort of reverse arjuna alter. starting out as a the fully human Enoch in first ascension, moving on to him when he was receiving a tour of existence in his second ascension, and then him as the full angelic scribe of god Metatron in his third ascension
This is really smart Take on Nero. Because even in History, Nero is one responsible for most deaths of Christian Believer during his reign as an Emperor. So much so that to warn other Christian to never revealed their Faith, they call him as Monster '666' in the Bible. Keep in mind '666' in the Bible have many different meaning depending on which take is on. But, in Nero case It was referend as a human trying to be a God. This comes from the meaning of number in Christiany. 3='Trinity' is number that symbolize God as Father, Son, and Holy spirit. And 6='Human' is number that represent humanity and their imperfection. That's why Nero is called monster '666', because He symbolize a human trying to be worship as a God.
Hey tsiah great video as always. also a recommendation topic. But I think one explaining alteration and it limits would be cool. Considering you did projection (tracing) and reinforcement, rounding out Shirou/EMIYAs skill set would be awesome. And as always keeo up the great work. Always fun listening to you.
So that explains a lot, I was wondering if this was another universe, a spin off, or just a weird remake. Thank you for clarifying it Tsiah. Always looking forward to your videos and explanations.
I know in this video you mentioned how strong Tamamo is - but I would really love to see a “ don’t sleep on Tamamo “ video ! Id love to see you explain her magecraft
Funny how Arcade did something prior Fate games always failed to do: finally make me give a crap about Nero. Her Beast rendition is the only interpretation of her I actually like. On a separate note, I'm surprised the battlefield where you fight Sodom's Beast is a ruined city of Rome, and yet no mention of Romulus (Grand or otherwise) coming in for the assist. He really needs to be in more events.
That makes no sense since it's just Nero. An even more vain Nero. You didn't read anything about her, you just hated she was popular and didn't pay attention at all and attribute things you made up in your head for things that happened.
@@raymondyongho5757 No, you are literally simping for the version whose negative traits people hate have been amplified because that was the point proving you were jumping on the hate band wagon and did not form your own opinion of the character.
@@RavenCloak13Tbf it's not naive simple brained Nero haters fault she's been so fucking raped and bastardized. She hardly resembles the pinnacle of fate/ writing she once did in Fate/EXTRA They'll never understand
Actually I wonder, so draco loves humanity (as to why she’s the beast class) but is it similar to goetia? Also just realize that the other beast larva lost their beast class status not just cause of getting weaker but also losing the desire to destroy humanity out of love
It's an implication that Nero wants the world to find joy in the theatre she made, Applause is her sin. Goetia's sin of pity ultimately came from not understanding humanity but her's might come from a more sympathetic standpoint as a fellow human. A thinking similar to maybe "I think this is nice, why can't we all like this? People are so mean and depraved" Nega-skills also play a narrative, each one so far has been kind of denying their own origin. Goetia has Nega-Summon despite/maybe because they are a summon. Tiamat has Nega-Genesis because she is genesis. Kama has Nega-Desire as she is the love god and never stopped it. Kiara has Nega-Saver, who she got from her F/GO self and specifically chose NOT to be a proper messiah/saver but to only save/love herself. Koyanskaya's has two probably due to the fact that she's not ready yet, she has not decided how she targets humanity, but she came to be cuz of getting an Ego and cuz of animals relationship with Humanity and their weapons. Nero's and Beast 666's Nega-Messiah is not at all explored or explained i feel but it might be similar to Kiara but instead chasing pleasure, they genuinely chase after salvation. Kiara could grant salvation but chose pleasure and Nero and Beast 666 might be looking for a way to grant salvation to humanity that suits them while rejecting every other path possible salvation. Sorry for the tangent.
@@therenegade4482 oh! Must have missed my head. Was the similarity stated during Arcade? I could only read a fair few translations so I admit I am lacking. But I was under the assumption that, that similarity came from the wiki which I had believed was an old description of it. Before when Tiamat was the only Beast with a lot of specified explanations on how her powers function so she was used as reference all the time. Cuz I do remember reading that same sentence years ago.
Great video Tsiah. Could you put a link to where you got the videoes for arcades story. Been looking but couldn't find any and the new event reignited my drive to look for it
So what's actually is "FATE" system summoning in Chaldea. The fact it doesn't need a catalyst plus it can pull extra classes like its my "Tuesday, 5:00 A.M class"
Well, they did poor Neb dirty. Yes, he got too high on himself and God made him insane. After a time, though, he woke from his madness, realized he did wrong and repented. God gave him back his kingdom and then some.
5 Star Saver Class. NP: Single Target Arts OR Party Arts slew of buffs (The Holy Supper could work for this) Skill 1 Guts (reference to the resurrection) Skill 2 Party card type up Skill 3 Unique self buff that increases star gen and NP gauge if Guts was triggered. Just a personal draft.
Noble Phantasm: *Redemption* O’Father in Heaven, Let us Guide the Lambs to a new light, Let us Forgive their sins again and welcome them into the Kingdom of Heaven. (I am really sorry if I butcher this.)
Thax bro now I get my answer From intrude king Arthur when I read her intrude king Arthur himself said I'm only here because of beast 6 and I was fighting her long time ago and also king Arthur said beast 6 will be come back someday so until then I'm papering myself to fight her again
Wait how does ritsuka beating goetia in mobile make him a counter to nega messiah? Wouldn't it make it the opposite? You don't quite get more messiahnic than saving the world Or is it something like them becoming an anti beast person conceptually?
It very barely does. Most of the story is told in summaries on loading screens. Dialogue is rare and the scenes of it are usually pretty short. It's an arcade machine after all, so long scenes don't really work when you have people waiting behind you to have their turn playing.
8:11 It seems like Nebuchadnezzar forgot the reason why he went mad in the first place- if I'm not wrong that mindset of being a god was why GOD tuned him mad
I still don't like the final beast form for Draco the fox/dog ears+tail it just discount Tamamo to me. I think Mother Harlot should be more like a demon/succubus or a 9ft tall Nero with her hair down in a crimson/scarlet and purple form fitting dress with jewels around her body with a comically large crown floating above her head while holding a golden chalice that oozes a dark red aura and also fur scarf I guess lol.. Looking generically foxy evil is kinda basic to me I wanted a more of a contrast similar to Kiara but reverse go form loil to a whore than to a graceful lady type shit.
@@TsiahIV I love Draco umu's new appearance too, i really love how it works for the lore-wise, esp as to why she chooses to remain as a beast in context of fgo's lore and japan's theories. the fgo mobile Draco is most deff an Alter-ego disguised as Beast-class, considering her arcade version is explicitly an Alter-ego class. the fgo wiki for whore of babylon and draco supports this too, reading both, it all makes sense. I deff understand why people are disappointed it ain't the wolf-mom whore of babylon Nero, but at the same time its very understandable why we don't have that version, since thats the complete beast Sodom, which would bring about the end of humanity, so it makes sense we can't summon that version. a few people have also said that fgo arcade's version was a "boss model." which makes sense and lore-wise thats the one that wants to destroy humanity, a umu thats sinked deep into depravity the playable draco was alter-ego in arcade, so that prob connects the theory of our draco's new form being a alter-ego disguised as Beast, including the lore for her accepting her destiny as a beast and walking alongside humanity. prob the most interesting part about her lore based on the wiki, is our Draco looks to be a continuity to an extent from arcade's timeline, after she was defeated and weakened. as we're contracted to her in the story. I'm in love with Nero+Draco's new lore, its very beautiful I deff think the only way the mother Harlot/Whore of Babylon Nero would come would be either, specifically Rider Nero, but thats a class she actively avoids for good reason. or a spiritron dress.. while possible.. thinking about it, that may not happen unless they specifically give Mother Harlot's "Oblitus Rosae Theatrum" NP animation from arcade, since that's what her np is. sorry for the long typings. all-in-all I really like how this collab expanded on Draco Nero and Beast VI, including her 3rd ascension with the lore for how and why. its amazing
