I decided to leave my “holy trinity” of her songs from each album, starting with the album Samo za tvoje oči (For Your Eyes Only), instead of a playlist of her most palatable songs. From Samo za tvoje oči (For Your Eyes Only): - “Manijak” (“Maniac”) - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jRH4piIkv9o.html - “Samo za tvoje oči” (“For Your Eyes Only”) - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1gnVLtnLXXY.html - “Moj dragi” (“My dear”) - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PMgg6X5VNQk.html From Magija (Magic): - “Slatka mala” (yeah I’m not even gonna attempt to translate this) - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-a2agoP8Lf6s.html - “Nisi u pravu” (“You Are Not Right”) - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LeLTXTobl5g.html - “Upravo ostavljena” (“Just Broken-Up With) - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-17rGnA0eX9c.html From JK Revolution: - “Tihi ubica” (“Silent Killer”) - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fQD6s6EUpnQ.html - “Testament” - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JXkY-8lXJ-0.html - “Casino” - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-51D4TbE1CkA.html From DIVA: - “Pucaj u ljubav (Ne vredi)” (“Shoot at Love (It’s Not Worth It)”) - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-d-m3NMZGR8Y.html - “Savršen zločin” (“Perfect Crime”) - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Bo2livVDmIk.html - “Insomnia” - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-B1pDLpdOC1w.html From ALPHA: - “KARLYB*TCH” - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sjfuhvSy75g.html (The MV, you can find the song on Spotify) - “Block!” - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8gaXx0X55rM.html - “Mashallah (feat. Milica Pavlović)” - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2-d3zmHM7Eo.html From OMEGA, none
Alpha's best is Alien. Perfect Pop song. Omega has Romane Mix, Ja, and XY. Great songs. I don't listen to her but ofc i now her songs, we're from same country
“Even though the public opinion is that she is right, she does it in a nasty way that makes it difficult to agree with her”. Well its very clear why Plane Jane did her then!
@@kcat200 I like them. I hate it when shows get too politically-correct and censored, if it was up to me I would bring back the “you got she-mail” segment.
Queer Serb living abroad here. Just came to the comments to say that this was so well explained nuanced and comprehensive. Really bang on contextualization of this person. My partner and I were gagged when Plane started talking about Karleusa. It was truly reality bending lol
I'm not Serbian, but I live in post-USSR country. So for me Plane's performance goes as a one based on stereotypes, but for some reason I still kinda enjoyed it. Idk why, but I think the way that Plane was telling those jokes kinda sold it for me. Agree with all the comments about Ru liking stereotypes, and for Plane it was definitely a safe rout to do.
Snatch Game is not about being accurate, it's about funneling caricatures of people into an American reality show full of drag queens... That's the comedy of it. Sometimes being detached from reality makes it even funnier.
THIS. I actually believe that Jane did more research that she showed (or they showed), but it was said by Chad A LOT in the episode - your only goal is to make mother laugh. Period. Jane did that, did make me laugh even tho I'm polish so I also get the "you're all russians" stuff a lot & really don't enjoy it. I really like Jane and I can see how smart she is, doing a stereotype like that is very funny to Ru & she did it. She's playing the game, whatever way you look at it. I understand Serbians not loving it and I would also prefer if she did some actually russian character then, but anyway I think she did the best in the episode (going by RuPauls standards at least, and she is the host).
im bulgarian and she was the only person to make me laugh out loud, i completely sensed that half of what she did was a russian stereotype and not really jellena but her execution got me, even if she was saying the most go-to phrases you can imagine
it's like if someone did lady gaga on snatch game with a southern accent and made jokes abt dating a sibling and ru didnt know who the character is supposed to be but laughed anyway cus the stereotypes are funny. like, for the ppl who can clock that it's not the right accent and cultural references it's a bit cringe.
hi, I have a very weird question(I think), I listened to Karlyb*tch and I like it but I'm just wondering, who is Karly? And why are we calling her the B word? - serious questions!
I'm confused about why does the fandom is suddenly demanding that draq queens should do an exact interpretation of the character they choose for SNATCHGAME lol Like she's not doing a casting for Jelena's bio pic she was using the character and her russian upbringing to get a win It's not that serious
When I watched the episode I immediately thought of you, so glad to hear your opinion about the episode, how Plane Jane portrayed Jelena as Russian and even saying russian words like babushka. Also what did you think of Michelle thinking Plane Jane was doing a made up character? smh
Honestly, it irks me Michelle didn't take like 10 seconds to googles her name. Even typing her name with an English pronunciation spelling of "Yelena Karleusha" will bring Jelena Karleuša.
But like, no one in the west knows what a 'Baka' is. At what point do we draw the line between offensively inaccurate and simply saying what you have to say for people to get the joke?
im not over Michelle saying during critiques that she assumed Plane had made up Jelena as a character. Like the judges have phones. can they not even be arsed to just google names they dont recognise????
Apart from saying babushka instead of babika, I don’t think making jokes with communist references is that off, Jelena spent her childhood in a communist country. In Budapest Hungary, arguably the most liberal communist country back then, there was one western cinema in the whole city that would offer one movie a day at one specific time. The movies would take a few years to get to Hungary. I think it is really cool she got to share Jelena to the world and set her to the Madonna and Gaga standards explaining who she was to Ru
Jelena is the best person in the world. She has a pure soul and heart, and she helps a lot of people. She is honest, she says what she thinks and doesn't tells anyone behind her back. She has a wonderful family, she sings well, she is a fantastic model, and most importantly, she is an ideal mother, friend, and everything that makes a person special and unique is our Jelena Karleusa. Thanks fo the video.
Wow thanks for all these infos and your quick reaction to the episode! It's crazy that we can all live in Europe and just literally don't know anything about other countries Pop culture. Feels like every country/culture has their own Madonna/button pusher/problematic fav and they somehow look alike/have similar path. Very interesting and complete presentation.
I'm from Croatia and I was gagged when she said she was going to be Jelena, I was so happy to see something from around here being show on the US season like when Monét told that Drag Race Bosnia joke💀, but this was a hot mess, and I feel like it worked better for her cause I bet Ru has no idea about our languages and cultures, so this was something easy for him to understand and laugh at, but miss Plane not even saying the name right made me so mad, happy for her Jelena follow on ig tho lmao
@@latricee_2000 Jelena is happy to be mentioned internetionally, she wouldn't bitch about ignorant people mispronouncing her name, when they are useful to her in acquiring more fame, fans and money. So this argument of yours is invalid
Plain Jane had a Slavic upbringing, so i think that's why she chose to impersonate a russian person cuz she knows it will end up being funny rather than try to sound like Jelena. I think she was really funny, she looked like Jelena, she was quick with the jokes. Overall, I think she did great.
Lol, you are trying to cancel Plane so hard while not knowing anything about Balkan history. Otherwise you wouldn't mention Cold War in the tittle, because that is definitely not the war she was mentioning. I am from post soviet state myself and we are often making fun of communism era in our media till this day, so pls don't get offended for us.
Thank you!!!! Oh thank you so much! Yeah, I found the generalization of Serbia as "another Russia" a little gross. At first I was shocked to hear of some Serbian representation, especially on drag race and then it turned out to be lackluster.
This is a really nice video, it's very informative! Plane and simple (pun intended), Plane Jane played a character for Snatch Game. The challenge is the opposite of representing the real character. Plane made a parody which was understandable and digestible for an international audience. She even mispronounced "babushka" only to use this word to give her act an Eastern-European flavor. Yes, Serbian for grandmother is, as far as I know, "baka" or "baba", but how many people would actually understand that? And honestly, the "thank you for being a comrade" written in cursive and with a Cyrillic "p" was hilarious. I also found it funny how Plane wrote most of the name in Cyrillic, but the last three letters in Latin. It just added to the lack of seriousness of it all. Had Plane tried to represent the character and the country, the political connections, the albums and the songs, most of the audience would not have understood it, and there would be no jokes. But here some of us are, learning more about Jelena, partially thanks to Plane Jane.
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I am Brazilian and know about Jelena listening to balcanian music with Andrea and Galena. And founded DIVA in 2012 and been obsessed on her style. And Alpha & Omega was, for me, as it can be for her and her genre, two very good albums. Congrats on the video! 😎✌🏼
As a JK fan, I'd say Plane Jane looked like her but the mannerisms and the accent were not there, it looked more like a Russian bimbo. It was still very good and I'd give her credit for the war joke (which is very Balkan!). Imo the "comrade" joke was still valid because of the Yugoslav socialist past and even Marina Abramovic has often joked about that!
I've been commenting everyhere how glad i am that someone not only did character from my country, but WON. Plane's impression was like a 6-7 but comedy and characterisation were a 10, deserved winner. Also, fun fact, even tho people see Jelena as only body.. which.. she is making it that way, she acually is very intelligent, and her IQ, apparently, is around 150. The first half is the perfect explanation of her. She is a good singer, when she wants to be. Here in Serbia playback/lip-sync is still VERY alive and so it is very nice to see her shof off her vocals, bc she has them. She has a very unique nasaly deep tone with great riffs and runs but very very... interesting vibrato. It is too push-y and sounds like too much. If she just would tone it down, she would be a great singer. Her ballads show that she has so much emotion and passion when singing, like in "Ne Vredi (Pucaj U Ljubav". Her ballads are so underrated, and she will always SERVE vocals and production. Her fashion is also amazing, probably my favorite aspect of her character. I wish the video included a very big part of her career, and that is her time as a judge on our biggest singing competition (not just in Serbia, but in our region), "Zvezde Granda" ("Stars Of Grand"). She was THE MAIN character by far. She is brutally honest, critical, and... that can come off as and at times IS.. rude. Her most iconic critiques are "You're never going to be a star" and "You dressed up like a grandma". She is also arguing a lot with other judges at times, but her most iconic fights and arguments are with a singer Viki Miljković. Jelena always comes at the end as the winner bc of her confidence and crowd control. People either love her even more or hate her even more. But, she is funny. She has a great sense of humor, but idk if it translates with our people the best at times, bc she comes off as arrogant a lot. One thing is, that she can see a star. People here REALLLYYY confuse the competition as if it's called "Singers of Grand" and so hate on Jelena when someone can sing, but doesn't have a star quality. And that's where i heavily agree with her. Her time on the show is truly iconic and Serbian TV Gold. Whenever she is on the screen, is T.V. GOLD.
Hey u! So as a brazilian who likes pop music from various countries I really enjoy the songs you posted from Alpha, it reminded of some trot songs from kpop and the girl group T-ARA. Although her representation (Plane Jane) wasn't very good i'm glad I got to discover this controversial artist from Serbia. I like those types os singers just like paulina Rubio and Ayumi Hamasaki with controversies and questionable music. Thank you for your service.
Even in her two latest Albums she managed to cover other songs from other parts of the world. That impersonation was painful, having heard, “known” and listened to Jelena before.
I have no knowledge of the culture but it did come off funny to me and even made me research her and look up her music so I appreciate the learning experience from here and what I looked up about her on other websites. Jelena must have gotten a boost in follows on social media because she did end up following Plane Jane so she must have found some humor in it. Which is cool.
Random thought but I thought Sasha Velour just said she studied in Russia during her academic career, obviously she played a Russian character/caricature in one challenge but I don’t remember her ever specifically claiming to be Russian, at the very least on her season but I could be wrong or just not informed to something she said after
We knew she was doing stereotypical misconceptions and I get that you're frustrated about this "representation". As a non-american I would've super mad about this if this was a celebrity from my country. I love Plane Jane tho she's the winner of this season IMO.
Thank you for taking the time to explain so many things about Jelena! First, for context, I’m a white American... Back in 2012, “Krimi Rad” went semi-viral here, and despite not understanding a word of Serbian, my friends in college and I thought it was such a visually stunning video and catchy song that we would play that music video a lot when drinking at home before going out on a Saturday. Then, as time went on, I got more into her music. I became a fan of her songs but never knew much about her other than she was a supporter of LGBT rights in Serbia and was a controversial figure. So I really appreciate this deep dive! Unfortunately, Americans don’t have a thorough understanding or comprehensive view of European nationalities… so it was sad to see Plane Jane rely on USSR-era humor, and it was even more sad to see that relying on those stereotypes secured her the win. That being said though, the one positive is that now gays in the US are finding out who she is and getting a better understanding of Eastern Europe in the process. The US is a large country with only one non-English speaking neighbor, and sadly most Americans never leave the country… so their understanding of the rest of the world is pathetic. I would probably say that the average American in their 20s knows very little about the Balkans. But seeing representation like this in pop culture helps fix that lack of understanding! Because even though it wasn’t the most accurate portrayal, it has sparked curiosity in many Americans who otherwise would have never even thought about pop culture in the Balkans. I guarantee there will be multiple American queens doing Jelena numbers at their local bar now 😆 Thanks again for the awesome video 🤍
plane is russian and Карлеуша is thee same in both...... she used alot of RU slavic references tbf it was best to go that route americans can't tell you where serbia is on the map sadly- ALI JA VOLIM JELENA......
As someone from former Yugoslavia, I can say that impersonation wasn’t spot on, but just the fact someone on Drag race did Jelena Karleuša as a character is fantastic and almost surreal. Jelena herself liked it not because it was accurate but because she is desperate for exposure and recognition, so Plane Jane did her a huge favour.
yeah its unfortunate that the Serbian representation wasn't 100% accurate, but the challenge is first and foremost to make rupaul laugh so of course the uneducated american views of this part of the world are gonna be easy to do for a contestant
At one hand - I really, really like Jane. I can see how smart she is and this choice was smart of her for at least two reasons, unfortunatly those being Ru's ignorance. As Michelle was convinced, that she was doing a made up character and nobody had any idea, that Serbia is not Russia, that we don't all speak or even understand russian. She was smart, because she basically could do whatever she wanted with that, put a couple of known russian words in like spasiba or babushka and be golden, which she was. HOWEVER - I do truly believe that she would be equally as good AND less problematic if she chose an actual russian character. Hell, do something politic, do a russian pop star, someone everyone knows by name but doesn't know anything else about. You'll have the same freedom without the problematic nature, but i guess - it's Jane we're talking about here. Problematic where hahahah As always, great video. If by any chance you're reading this, have a beaufifull day, sending much love from Poland! So good to hear you back c;
JK the biggest Balkan star! They have been advocating for human rights and the rights of the LGBTQ population for thirty years, and they have been attacking Serbia for just as long. Her only connection with Russia is in her two songs where she sarcastically mentions Russian women and the Russian mafia. he also spits on Novak Djokovic... Everything I mentioned is also on you tube. It hurts Serbs when someone from Serbia is better than average, let alone like her with so many albums of success... The best that the Balkans can present!without hatred towards better and different people!!!!
wait , you're Serbian? cuz you keep saying " here " as if your talking about where you live. I honestly thought you were Brazilian all this time LOL, sorry . Anyway at first I was saying that you should just lighten up and not care much about the performance, and just enjoy that she was doing Jelena Karleuša in snatch game. But thinking about it and seeing how if this was like someone doing a lets say famous star like Shakira who's Colombian and making her sound like a Mexican wouldn't be right. Like every American already thinks every latin person is Mexican and its the same with Planes character that everyone thinks slavic people are Russian here int he US., I think this is a bigger conversation about how Americans are pretty much the only country in the world who are least educated and cultured. like living here its always just about the them. I remember meeting people at bars and the conversations were very bland like they would talk about " OH i moved from my small town and here in California is so different it was so hard moving here" I am like wtf? I lived in three different countries and know 5 languages and traveled to over 40 countries and you are complaining about how california is so different then your small town in Nebraska? LOL I still can't get use to it here sometimes LOL . but yeah I totally get where you are coming from. I think I prefer to watch more of the drag race spin offs then the US cuz they actually seem to know more about outside of their country and culture more then American queens. Who only travel when they get famous. but oh well. like your channel and hope you keep making more videos maybe talk about drag race.
12:29 the song rupaul asks about is originally called "thank you for being a ~friend~ (the word that was blanked)", she simply exchanges friend to comrade
also regarding that part about her songs sampling foreign songs, well that's essentially the case for all balkan and middle eastern artists lmao, the turks sample the egyptians and serbs sample the turkish then they get sampled by the bulgarians...etc lmao the melodies however tend to originate IN GREECE.
Delim tvoje mišljenje da je PJane više igrala na kartu stereotipa Rusa/Slovena u Americi nego na kartu same JK. Sjajan video i objašnjenje referenci! 👏 👏
Sorry you had such expectations for the character 😭 I think we need to remember for snatch game is isn’t necessarily about how accurate you are in impersonating someone, rather how funny you are. And with Ru not knowing who Jelena is, she just had to be text book “funny” and used Russian stereotypes.
She played a Russian pop star not a Serbian one. I thought being a Russian Jew she would have understood the nuances but no. It was such a bad portrayal. Serbians are not Russians.
It's a serbian pop star, but it definitely had a russian character. It can be insulting to mix up nations like that. An then the "Spasiba"..only russians say that, it's not slavic in general. Being slavic myself, I got spasiba few times in my life. Its like saying sayonara to all asians.
this! her Serbian pop star turned out to be completely russian with russian accent and russian words. she could've just impersonate someone from ruzzia and not drag Serbia in.
@@kaymaddiiI think it was too risky for her to pick a Russian character while there is a war. But she should have done Alla Pugachova, it would be great. And also being an immigrants’ child she doesn’t distinguish Slavic nations too well. Well, here in Russia we also tend to think that all Slavic countries are one nation with Russia as a matriarch being the Center of the Slavic World. It’s bad.
@@katyadade1041 oh she's not afraid to speak russian and mentions russia many times on the show, but afraid to pick a russian character? how is that different? Agree, she should have done a russian celebrity because clearly she supports the war. otherwise, she could've used the platform to say something against the russian war in Ukraine at least once.
So, comming to the topic of your Video, had a date with a guy from serbia and checkt, that my view on the balkan states is a bit different but I think my knowleg had not that big influence from the united states. I wish I had someone to connect more because I want to learn more about serbia. Thanks for your video!
You’ve asked to see outsiders opinions, so heres mine: i’m an 18 year old American and my online presence pretty much revolves around 90s/00s culture. I often find myself obsessing over 90s & 00s pop girls whether they’re from the uk, Russia, whatever. My good online friend suggested i get into jelena and i was absolutely stunned by her fashion… every now and then a photo of her makes its rounds on Pinterest & tumblr but i never see her name. While i can talk about her fashion and aesthetic endlessly i cannot say her music has affected me the same way. Im still getting into her music but ive yet to find anything that wows me. I think thats mostly due to my rather generic music taste tho
this was very informational to the U.S American eye. I will snatch games are NEVER good representations of cultures. A few here and there performances. 11:37 Ru likes stupid and Borderline offensive comedy. So Plane played her cards right and she did win.
Some of the jokes were funny, I'll give her that. Also, I did enjoy the visual presentation (bigger bust would've been better). Personally, I would've given the win to Sapphira, but I can't call PJ's performance bad. However, the constant mispronunciation of Jelena's first and last name by everyone, including PJ, annoyed me. The mixing of two (or multiple) slavic cultures annoyed me. The constant joke that Americans make about mostly eastern European countries along the lines of us "seeing Golden Girls for the first time" is annoying beyond words, and I would personally go as far as to call it degrading. Just google some stuff, ya know, ignorance is not funny. Kisses from Croatia
Yes, but it reminded me of my childhood in Russia when we got all the 70s, 80s and 90s movies and shows at the same time and what was decades old in USA was brand new to us. It was 30 years ago, but true.
I get it... But I think you're expecting way too much from Americans when some of them barely know America is a continent and can barely name other countries... I mean...
You are taking this all too serious. It's a comedy challenge and the golden girls joke was really funny. You should be proud that someone did a Serbian celebrity on drag race and won.
Omg is the "Female music star with different eras that used to support feminism and womens rights but than supports our leading right wing party and says incredibly insensitive things online while also collaborating with the worst TVchannels" an eastern european thing ? Cuz here in Hungary we have the exact same trojectory and everything of a famous singer called "tóth gabi" who started out as a Pink impersonator emo girl and now sings about findig christ and Hungarian culture on Government organized events.
hey, I hope you are doing good, I used to watch some of your videos as a kid and really liked them (so rediscovering your channel felt like unlocking a core memory) I just wanted to say that I'm glad you moved on from making content that doesn't have your best intentions in mind and that you are hopefully in a better place now. As a Bosnian it always warms my heart to see a balkan online creator not only be ridiculously successful in their field but also being a queer outcast openly talk about their interests even if behind a simple yellow profile pic with the letter "u." on it... I don't know, it gives me a strange feeling of closure and a feeling like i might be able to do the same with my stuff later on as well! Heh, all in all im sending you LOTS of love and positivity and hopefully only great things will come your way
@@_____134 first of all, you’re comparing languages to nationalities now which is something completely else, and second of all, Chinese and Japanese are not even in the same language family, whereas Serbian and Russian are pretty close languages, and therefore not easy to tell apart for people without deeper knowledge.
@@popcorn5866 i am not talking about nationalities or languages but ethnicities - do educate yourself. people of east asian descent share cultural and linguistic elements. so do people of slavic descent. if it’s disrespectful to not care about mixing up one set of peoples, it’s disrespectful for the others as well.
@@_____134 okay so you suddenly decided to talk about ethnicities while my original comment was only about languages and accents. You decided yourself to go into this direction, so stop dragging me into this nonsense discussion. We’re talking about two different topics here.
@@popcorn5866 even if we only regard languages, it is only decent to make an effort. i cannot distinguish between spanish and portuguese, yet i wouldn’t dare say “who even cares” when it comes to distinguishing them.. it’s a super disrespectful and extremely american/self-centric pov
okay so im from poland also a post soviet country and i honestly loved planes snatch game it fit into the formula they were supposed to present and plane just weaponized her slavic upbringing as sapphira said the challenge is ultimately to make rupaul laugh and since he's not familiar with who jelena is and most definitely wouldn't understand a word if plane had thrown in the phrases in serbian while russian is a bit more recognisible in the states plus jane is russian so it makes sense why she would choose to do russian and i personally as a slav find the commrade jokes and stuff like that funny as hell but idk i loved planes snatch game it was funny and honestly its good to see her bring the culture to drag race cause she can interest people in jelena for example wich leads people to for example watching your video and learning the context more but thats just my take on planes snatch game
I have been searching your channel every week hoping you would post I'm glad to see uou again, but understand why you're not doing drag race videos anymore
Where have u been U. Welcome back hope all is well with life and school. I know you be busy but you have been greatly missed can't wait for more new videos when u get a chance. Much love ❤️❤️❤️
Noone else could've done this video better than you U, thanks for coming back here at least to share your wisdom with the children, I'm happy you gave us some more context and I'll look into the playlist. At least from your explanations I can think of Jelena to be similar to some turkish artists we have but she's much more ahead of her time. P.S. I always thought about Sasha saying her parents are from russia when they were from ukraine, but i feel like that's mostly because they probably came to US before the separation of the Soviet Union and probably registered as russian immigrants? Can't say for sure but I feel like russia is kind of a short hand for people from the soviets
I have to defend Plane Jane for her pronunciation, at least in Polish (another Slavic language - for the Americans), the pronunciation would be quite similar. But apparently for Southern Slavic languages that‘s not the case
Obožavam tvoj kanal. I ja sam prestala sa gledanjem negdje oko sezone 12/13 (ne sjećam se lol), pa me kao pravu klasičnu balkančinu jako zanimala Jelena Karleuša na snatch game. Bila sam strašno razočarana takvim nastupom i iskreno, kao osoba iz Hrvatske, sramotno je da nas uopće svrstavaju u istu kategoriju sa Rusima kad smo gotovo potpuno drugačiji od njih u svakom pogledu.... čak i u Jugoslaviji. Uglavnom, divan video kao i uvijek, nadam se da ću vidjeti neki novi content od u. kanala uskoro :) ako ne, sve najbolje želim!
As an American, I have never heard of Jelena. And then when the show showed a picture, I kind of got scared. Part of why I enjoyed Planes' snatch game was because I had no prior knowledge of Jelena. I thought she was made up before there was photo evidence of this person's existence.I personally enjoyed Saphras' James Brown more because I clearly knew a lot more about him than her. Fast forward to a few days later to seeing this video; my first thought was like, "Yikes. I shouldn't have enjoyed Jelena as much as I did."
thank you for the insight! I have sincerely missed your drag race content, it was nice having a slightly more serious, nuanced take on the show, and I greatly appreciate you coming back for this. I do think, given that the challenge is about making Ru and the audience laugh more than about accurately portraying a character there is some wriggle room for things being not exactly right, like, why ruin a good joke with the truth? sort of thing, but some of that was clearly a lot lazier than I had the cultural knowledge to pick up. (I'm from New Zealand. We don't learn shit about anyone here, or at least we didn't 18 years ago when I last took a social studies class, and pretty much all the pakeha (te reo Māori for white folk) here are of English, Irish or Scottish descent. So clearly all we need to learn about is WW2 and Captain Cook. Gotta love that pro western propaganda and colonisation.)
Oh my god, and I too am offended at the drag kings I saw the other night making fun of my gender, and of 'The Windsors' making fun of my culture! As a posh British person, the things that TV show inferred about posh people were so inaccurate and really offensive! So disappointing. Like girl, it was funny. Accurate doesn't = funny. There's no joke in absolute truth. Mae West never asked anyone to 'f*ck me up the ass sometime', and Joan Crawford never screamed 'No Wire Hangers! Ever!' - it's parody. I think you can inform us about the real woman without slating the performance Also, Jelena does have breast implants I saw her confirm it in an interview. There's nothing speculative about those stunning, massive money makers
I'm glad I'm not the only one who was disappointed by Plane Jane's snatch game (even though I only vaguely knew who she was because my parents are from Montenegro) and I also cringed when she said babushka lol. I wanted to know more about Jelena so thanks for this video!
Girl you are reading too much into the performance and nitpicking it to death. It was funny. You’re like one of those fans who gets angry when people dont get every little nuance correct. Snatch Game isnt about doing a serious character study. The queens who try to do that stuff almost always fail on Snatch Game.🤔 Be glad Plane Jane was able to get everyone to care about Jelena Karleusa. Jelena loved it.
i was verry intrigid by jalena karleusa, as an european the last few years ive been discovering more and more balkan artists specialy with eurovision help, but i wonder why are balkan artist not more out t here ?
As mentioned below, thanks for coming back & walking us children in nature, now I want to be teleported back to mars now away from all this craziness 👏🏻👍🏻😂
i mean honestly if maya had won snatch game deja-style idve been fine with it. such disappointment, especially patty lupone hurt me deep, nothing was right about her. but also as a person from georgia, i know how often being amalgamated with the ex-soviets feels like so plane jane was all the way off for me.
@@simont390 im just saying if she'd won for storyline purposes, like stacy and deja had won in the past, i'd've been fine with it, it would shut the girls up and gave her new confidence. for all plane jane is going on about katya being not authentically russian, it's the same 'russian hooker' archetype jokes we've been hearing for years and years. yea saphira was funny but also very messy and besides q who's really my fave from the season so far i didn't like any of the others at all.
