Who makes the ULTIMATE Pep x Klopp Era Combined XI? 👀 | Saturday Social 

This Liverpool fan needs to come on again, he's unbias and well measured.. actually offers strong footballing opinipns

It’s easier with city and Liverpool cuz there’s so many options

Couldn’t agree more

Don't be too fooled, Buvey loves to wind people up when he's in the mood for it

Compared to a certain retired league one striker/bodybuilder.

It's a bit weird that Haaland isn't in there, though. With all due to respect to Mane, who was undoubtedly one of the best players in the world *while at Liverpool*, I think his subsequent seasons with Bayern and even Al-Nassr have shown that he benefited massively from Liverpool's hyper-attacking system, which was almost custom-built for the inside forwards. When you compare him with people like Agüero, who I think we can all agree is one of the best strikers in Premier League history, and Haaland, who casually breaks records left, right, and centre, he just doesn't hold his own. I think for the combined XI, they should've just gone with a Klopp-style front 3, with Salah and Agüero being inside forwards and Haaland in the middle.

Also, Bernardo not being in this team feels off. I know that, if this were an actual team, you'd have to put either Rodri or Fernandinho in there to cover for the attacking trio and the rest of the midfield, but symbolically, there is absolutely no way that Rodri makes the team and Bernardo doesn't.

@@maxkho00 doesn’t make any sense, neither haaland nor aguero are inside forwards. Mane makes absolute sense

@@soumyomandal8661 Agüero would make an excellent inside forward. Let's not forget that, among other things, he was an excellent dribbler and passer. Just because he never played as an inside forward doesn't mean he couldn't.

@@maxkho00 I love aguero. I am sure he would have. But let’s just go with what we have seen, we can’t bypass Mane just because of some speculation

He's certainly not

DDG was the best in the world for 3 years Allison ain’t even near Dave never mind Cech and Peter schmiskes and vds

@@Chipsandgravy202its definitely clear youre a ManU fan kid

Allison absolutely rank today

@@ramsdale4 >Ramsdale LOL

ye

But cancelo

Terrible XI. Haaland should already be there instead of Aguero, Cancelo instead of Robertson and Ruben Dias instead of Kompany.

@@bazingacurta2567behave yourself

@@alecmicah Cancelo over who?

City fan here and Cancelo doesn’t come close to Robertson personally

If you love it so much why dont you marry it heh

@@22slz33Why? Cuz Robertson has been poor defensively for us for the last 2 years 😂

@@Ibrahim-nf6yhcancelo cost city more than a lot of people think, also Robertson from the time he signed up until you won the league was the best in the world?

@@Ibrahim-nf6yhhes been so good this season until the injury he offers more forawrd that what he concedes

Completely agreed. I'd even go as far as saying Sergio shouldn't be there; mane in CF and sterling on the left (under pep!!)

Haaland over Sterling though. Salah - Haaland - Mane. That’s terrifying

most real man city fan LOOOL. Man put haaland on LW@@RojoBoxeador

@@RojoBoxeador I think to optimise Salah and Mane you need a false 9 though so I don’t think Haaland would work as well as people think Edit: I would love to have seen it though because that does sound terrifying

They were still in pep era and were still amazing, them being good before pep has nothing to do with it

Klopp would of probably won more tbh. Look at the level he got Liverpool with nowhere near the money, pep is world class but he couldn't do what klopp has, on the other hand klopp still hits that level with 115 advantages and an endless fund of money. If the roles were reversed we'd have had no title challenge in 6 years.

Yeah it is such an interesting debate. I kind of agree. I feel if you have top quality technical players then pep is the better manager. He would make them even better but he demands a certain level of technical quality. That is why likes of kalvin philips didn't work for him. However if you have above average or very good players who are not top top players then klopp is a better manager for them. He would get the most out of limited resources. By no means gini wijnaldum, Henderson and fabinho individually are world class players. I would also put Robertson in there. However klopp's style is more based on intensity and counter pressing which needs willing runners. If you are a good footballer and not that great technically and you have that intensity and physicality then that kind of player can thrive more under klopp. Some Eg kalvin philips could have been a better fit for klopp Trent I feel would have gone even a level up with pep. He wouldn't have had to defend much. Likewise I don't think the likes of grealish would do that well under klopp And someone like Henderson Gini or Robertson would not do that good under pep. In a way they both are at the perfect clubs.

​@@ishraqsyed8999 i kinda agree with most of what youre saying but can't say I agree with your take on Robertson tbh

but klopp didnt win more he only one 1 prem title in almost 10 years at the club so please state facts and not if buts and maybes. klopp doesnt have an era. this is peps era and before that is was fergies era.

We never know

Hello Buvey. How tall are you? Brain called you "a unit". For him to say that, you must be massive.

Good to see youre becoming sensible

Good picks today. Wouldn’t change a single player…honourable mention for Bernardo Silva, unlucky to miss out

@@miamitten1123 Buvey's probably 6'3-6'4

@@Zavstarnah this is a one off

asked him have u?

Theres a lot of instances with that. I mean Ederson is a prime example. All teams in the world bar City would prefer Alisson, but Ederson's better for Pep.

imo, i dotnt think pep would drop alisson for ederson. He is no ederson but his ball playing abilityis very good,just a step below ederson and he is the better keeper.@@EA.....

@@moulinyan Given that pep started Bernardo ahead of Mahrez last season will give you the answer.

@@user-hv9xk4mz4s comparing mahrez to salah??? if pep has salah, silva plays in midfield.

She said that Salah is overall better premier league winner than Ronaldo, but except of that she got most things correct if you ask me

@@zzzannin. emphasis on premier league, forgetting everything ronaldo did when he left

@@zzzannin.she was right 😂 Salah has double the stats of Ronaldo in the prem

@@lukemaher7901 he also played double the time there after also being in his prime

@@zzzannin. wheres ronaldo worldcup?

They dont, there's no guarantee that if they both stayed at Chelsea, they would have become as big as they are now. Also back then Chelsea had a stacked squad with all the best youngsters in Europe, they just couldnt keep them all and see those talents come to waste.

yeah but there's no guaranteed they would developed to the levels they are at if they stayed

Why on earth would Chelsea be kicking themselves about De bruyne?? He acted like a kid and was extremely lazy and grumpy, the players didn’t want him around let alone the club

I think Mourinho got rid of them both

@@punkask3619 and for good reason

Smoking rocks if you think Klopp won’t replicate similar results with this city boys .😂 you’re smoking something really strong

maybe you misunderstood what i tried to imply@@curtiszyr

Don’t forget Klopp had similar midfield at bvb

@bertrandtheApostle7343 U spoke my mind man..... I don't think he knew Klopp at Dortmund, cos every team in the world wanted to sing and did signed a player from Dortmund

Forgetting the way coutinho was dominating midfield for liverpool?

@@yt2530no he wasn’t countinho was selfish and inconsistent and wasn’t strong enough.

@@lukemaher7901 Always popped up with a goal outside the box when he was needed. Only midfielder that consistently put up numbers. Only one that could unlock a tight defence by beating a few players. In that 17/18 season him behind salah mane firmino was a joke of an attacking force.

Peak David Silva clears Bernardo Silva. And Pep is better than Klopp if you count overall tasks Pep has won two trebles and multiple times more league titles

Liverpool have better resources than the other teams so of course they can easily take minimum 2nd place

@@Deathmare235 I think i disagree. They have a strong establishment and excellent management but the funding isnt spectacular, i'd call it impressive about their ability to compete at the top

Which Dortmund era?

Dortmund??? 🤣😭

It has to be fair if not you can’t get any kloop players in

@@eL--RaLReus, Gundogan, Lewandowski, Hummels are some good shouts of course 2 went on to play under Pep too but still don’t disrespect the names

​@@thatonebirtyd5058wasn't marco reus also a player under klopp ? If so prime reus before his injury was unstoppable.

check what each player was doing before Pep and check what they became under Pep.

Criminal he wasn't mentioned. Unfortunately I think the fact city won the treble right after he left hurts his legacy. For me hes better than robbo on his day but not Trent or walker

His peak was way too short. He wasn't seen as one of the best in the world in his first season at City (19/20). 20/21 he started to be seen as one of the best. 21/22 was his peak. 22/23 he got dropped and loaned to Bayern halfway through the season. I loved Cancelo when he was at his best but he genuinely doesn't have the longevity of Trent and Robertson. I'd also say those two were just as good during their peak. Robertson in particular was the best of the 3 defensively during his peak so there's no way Cancelo gets ahead of him (and LB was where Cancelo played his best football under Pep imo).

Defending was suspect and he was inconsistent.

Yeah thought he has a shout in that midfield.

The counter, and the real answer, is Klopp has the better head to head record...

​​@@brianbates212Klopp took Liverpool from ruins to GLORY. Pep had an already successful team. Pound for pound, Klopp's better

@@emmanuelkoya4529 I think klopp brings the most out of what he has but pep can create the best strategy and tactics. with the exact lineups they want i think pep would beat klopp. but given a ragtag team i think klopp beats pep.

Mince. He actually didn't invent it. Go back to Rinus Michels at Ajax. Ruud Krol used to play in defence and midfield. That was back in the 1970s. As for Beckenbauer, even Bobby Charlton said that he was a midfielder which obviously belied his sweeper position.

@@glasgowgrad6277 Didn't do my research. I guess Pep just brought it back

Walker>Trent also I want Sane over Mane but thats personal pref

Gvardiol???😂😂 He has not even played half a season

Gvardiol hasn't even been at City for half a season 🤨

@@Max-kx9wy Anyone who thinks Walker is better than Alexander-Arnold is a casual.

@@borger1000 And? I'm not taking longevity into account, it's purely a best XI.

Do you know there is a player called kompany?

Almost spot on but Cancelo better than Robertson

@@eL--RaLnah brev we don’t claim Cancelo

​@@GermanChickenwingdias was his signing and also a treble winner and in the fifapro XI

@@GermanChickenwing in the 3 seasons he played under pep, Kompany played 62 games in all comps, the premier League, champs league & all cups. In Dias first season under Pep he played in 53 games in all competitions, in 3 seasons Dias has 136 games under pep, and a key player in the treble winning side. I'm not saying Kompany wasn't a great player because he was, if the question was "City's greatest XI" then there is a debate, since it's who's in the ultimate Pep/ Klopp team it's Dias since he's achieved something Kompany never did

I think he meant ability as in opportunity

​@@joesid3153He better have.

I wondering the same thing 😢 The magician

I mean klopp nearly went invincible with a lesser squad so most likely

I just thought imagine if Man city signed Van dijk instead of Liverpool Man city would have been unbeatable tbh

Cancelo ahead of Robertson,No

That is a terrible list

Lol..... Cancelo over Robertson is criminal

Liverpool have spent over £800M since Klopps 1st full season (16/17). In what world is that "barely spending any money". They haven't spent as much as city, but it's not like they are some mid table championship side with their spending.

accused and proven innocent, so stop being biased because he clapped United in 2 Ucl finals. Better manager is the one that win the most, that innovates the most that adapts the most. Pep changed his football, Klopp is unable to play anything than hard rock. Pep is the reason for the best team in the history, he did not has had it. He assembled it and made it that way.

Not world class. But they are underrating gundogans time at dortmund. Crucial to their champions league run

​@@vendexa5840Wasn't he under Klopp himself as well?

@@madeupstory9510 Yes. That 2013 team was special

@vendexa5840 oh. Apparently tgere is doubt. Lol. He was world vlass in my opinion. Loved him at dortmund

@@vendexa5840 he was world class, actually world class in the brief moment between late Season 2013 and beginning of the season 2014. I don't know what kind of career we would be talking if he didn't suffer that back injury. I think David Silva, Kevin debruyne and Gündogan would be considered equals. Sadly this injury ruined his career. But seeing what he achieved despite this truly states what an incredible Player he was.

Carlos wasn’t a better left back than Maldini or Ashley Cole

Exactly upcoming years, right now Aguero has a better legacy also Salah and mane are goal scoring wingers so Aguero suits them better