Who Named the United States? (Short Animated Documentary) 

There is an Atlantis, Florida.

@@koboldparty4708 And Atlanta, Georgia; which is really fucking close.

Atlantida

With the capital city El Dorado D.C.

Late 18th century 4chan..

True, but so would any other nations name if hadn't been adopted. Imagine living in a world where France still called itself Gaul and hearing France for the first time.

@@johnsphpaulin1162 Gaul would be an awesome name. Gauls win wars, French do not. 😂 But to be honest I always like Francia vs. France.

@@mbogucki1 France actually has the greatest military record of all time.

@@kevinboros7427 yeah, but they lost to that one guy with the weird mustache. So clearly they're incapable of ever winning the war ever again.

@@mbogucki1 but the Gauls didn't win there Wars, that's why it was a Roman province for most of its existence

Well, it worked for Romulus.

No, Fred! We're not naming the country after you! Sit down until you have something useful to say!

meanwhile Frank and Romulus

@@jodofe4879 And also a certain Walt with Disneyland.

If only he was as clever as Samuel Wilson of New York.

And funny enough, what is now the state of Washington was going to be called "Columbia", but people were worried it would get confused with the District of Columbia. So, ironically, they named the new state Washington, an even more confusing name

@@stevenpeay923 this fact fills me with rage

@@gustavosauro1882 I agree with you

Washington, Da Capital

@@stevenpeay923 District of Columbia back then is composed of several cities and counties, namely Georgetown, Washington City, Washington County, Alexandria City and Alexandria County (later ceded back to Virginia). Later, these cities and counties are merged into single entity called Washington DC.

Merritt Animation USA: “F*ck!”

Meanwhile in the former Viceroyalty of Nueva Granada: " [Colombia] , Uff pero que nombre tan Verraco pues"

@asdf Fun fact, there is a Town in Ohio which has a Hitler Road, Hitler Park and Hitler Cemetery.

@@fischlmakesmondstadtgreata7113 was it named before or after the rise of Adolf

asdf, Please don’t lessen the horror of Hitler by comparing him to Columbus.

Can you explain for someone who doesn't speak Spanish?

@@OMGitshimitis One of the Spanish words for US Americans is "estadounidense", from estado = state and unido = united, so quite literally "unitedstatesian". (Just the other way around, as usual in Spanish.)

Eh, better than just gringo i guess.

We also use yankis for you.

@@Eliasdefi Sad Red Sox fan noises.

People from Appalachia say Appalachia correctly. Also I don't think Appalachia would be a good name for the US because then people would get confused trying to distinguish Appalachia the region vs. Appalachia the country.

I have always liked Appalachia or 'The United States of the Appalachias'. Worth considering that it would have been the better name if you were anti expansionist and wanted to limit the Union to just the 13 states and the acquired eastern territory.

@@Bone_Thug It most certainly is not. "A-puh-lay-chee-uh" is clearly correct, even if locals say "she-uh." "Appa-lacha" meanwhile sounds like something you'd get at a coffee shop.

Only people that don’t know how to speak(mostly people with 3 teeth) say it anyway other way than the correct way.

@@somebodysomewhere6770 people from south Appalachia say it like "app-uhl-atch-uh" and people from north Appalachia say it like "app-uh-lay-shuh"

Yeah except they weren't the united states of America as a whole, but for some north american, anglo colonies, with the exception of Canada.

It wasn't all of America though. It is like France calling themselves "The United States of Europe"

@@i_likemen5614 I interpret the name more as a descriptor than an actual name; the States United which are in the Americas.

@@i_likemen5614 Not really, it's like saying "states of America which are united" not "America's states are united"

It was actually named the Republic of the Seven United Netherlands, United Provinces was just a nickname. But I see your point.

Would the parents in this case be Britain and France?

And now the US is taking over Daddy Britains business of manipulating and controlling countries. Yay

Panteleimon Ponomarenko Oh my god! It’s Panteleimon Ponomarenko!

*States'

@@blueangel4ever370 I mean other every nation has done that at some point. Even in modern times France help manipulated the Libyan Civil War’s outcome.

How about *Fascistland* ; especially if Trump is reelected?

@@Perririri I wouldn't call him a fascist. A big dummy, sure, but he ain't no fascist. Now Oswald Mosley? THAT'S a damn good fascist right there.

@@Perririri What has Trump done that you think makes him follow the same ideology Hitler and Mussolini did?

I think America has lost it monopoly for freedom for a long time now. It's no longer the land of the free

@@AzaiReacts well that's a matter of opinion. I really don't think so, but you must admit that the US aren't the only place for freedom now

Really great game.

If you are referring to the nation itself as the Untied States would it not be Les États-Unis?

I will henceforth refer to the French as Republicans

@@spartanx9293 no, also France is not taking the name from a continent. It’d be confusing to call themselves Europeans, if they were the “republic of Europe” or “the United States of Europe”

@@jaciel610 the United States was the first independent country of European descent founded in North America can you name a single other country that meets these qualifications the general rule you also follow what the people living in the country call themselves we call ourselves Americans and we don't give two s**** what other people think if they don't like it tough they should have founded their country before us

@@spartanx9293 ah your comment is a complete USA stereotype “we don’t give two S** about (what) other people”. That says a lot, enjoy your big ego, bye.

Someone already patented a similar name. Sorry. Lol

Not only the name was taken, the country that used it was name "the great columbia". Pro gamer move against the unitedstatians

Well there are two Congos....

Columbia, not "Colombia." And while most people preferred "America" as our country's name, "Hail Columbia" became our national anthem for a few short years, the waterway that led Lewis and Clark to the Pacific got christened the "Columbia River," our nation's capital was baptized "the District of Columbia," and "King's University" in New York City was renamed "Columbia University."

@@grantorino2325 Literally the same thing except for spelling.

I want this as a Marvel What if..? comic so badly

Fredonia sounds like one of those fake countries in the DC Universe

@@The-Samuil You mean like Latveria from Marvel?

I grew up in a town outside of Buffalo called Fredonia. Never much thought about it...

@@fighterck6241 huh. Cool

In the US, the term North and South America is used with the separating point being Panama; and Central America being used to refer to between Mexico and Panama. I guess since "American" picked up as the demonym of the United States, the choice to separate the two in the American English language was chosen.

In (Brazilian) Poetuguese, "America" is ambigous between "the Americas" and "the USA"

@@thehumanoddity I think some of us use America for the us and use Americas when talking about the continents

@mechupaunhuevon7662 I was born in and have lived my whole life in America, and I have never heard anybody here refer to the country as "the States." That sounds like something somebody from the UK or Ireland or Australia or New Zealand would say. I do hear people in media call the country "the United States" often (and incorrectly) enough, but in real life, everybody here calls it America.

@@bigscarysteve I agree & I was born, raised & lived here my entire life as well. If anything, when asked where we were born most of answer with the name of the city first then the state. So, when someone asks me where I was born I never once have answered with the US or America, I reply with Concord, NH. If someone online asks me where I am from & I know they are in another country I will say I am an American & then tell them what city & state so they know what part of the country I am from.

@Stephen Jenkins it's true, but I like and I use the other word because it is actually the correct one :)

Just call us Yankees

@@chaosXP3RT Please, no one do this.

As an English-speaking American that is taking a Spanish class, I have heard a similar Spanish word for inhabitants of the United States: "estadounidense", which also literally means "United Statesian", but is supposed to be translated as "American". Additionally, the term "Americano" (male) or "Americana" (female) is used to refer to an inhabitant of the landmass "América", which is counted by Spanish speakers as one continent, but by English speakers as two continents: North America and South America.

The “correct” version would be the one actually used in the United States, wouldn’t it?

"The Freeds" lol

Fredonia or Oilandia or Democrazia or Republicana

yeah cause it's fucking dumb

Sounds like something Trump would come up with.

I think MURICA is the most American name.

Well in Spain is also called United Statesian (in Spanish/Castillian Estadounidense)

I’m mean, he said themselves.

That's great and all but they don't live in the USA. We call ourselves what we want. Thing is unless we are in another country we usually refer to ourselves by our states(I'm Kansas or Arizona etc).

@Xavier Lekubarri no, our constitution would never allow it.

@@MrMackievelli what do you mean they don't live in the US if they are almost 20% of the population. That's even bigger than the black population (~13%) for reference.

*FREEDONIA, FUCK YEA!*

Sugercult - Stuck in Freedobnia

Bruce Springsteen and Green Day are not pop.

Freedish

Razorlight - Trouble in Fredonia

Yea that is pretty badass

I can already see all the shit rappers rhyming Vespucci with Gucci.

I can already hear Hispanophones from the alternate universe mockingly nicknaming it "Vesputa".

And we would be called “Vespuccians”.

And in LA they’d have Amerigo Beach...

Except for a New Yorker or Texan 😂

I think that’s still the case for many parts of the US. Here in Washington State many people have a firm identity as a Washingtonian just as much as an American.

They still do

​@@dhowe5180It's honestly a really cool part of living in the US. And because of how huge and diverse the country is, you can even find racial differences depending on where you are. People of Western European descent in the North, Latinos in the South/Southwest, Asians on both coasts. Pretty neat

It would feel kind of weird to read an official document from Mexico and just see “Mexico” on top. It just sounds wrong. Countries normally like to state their government type first. Like the Republic of Korea or the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. It just seems more official that way.

Canada is "The Dominion of Canada", and "The Dominion" or "Our Dominion" were once intelligible synonyms for the country. "Canada Day" was "Dominion Day" until the eighties, and you can still see some old storefronts, trucks, brands etc. with names like "Dominion Grocery" or whatever, and one of our largest banks is still called Toronto Dominion.

I'm a translator and it's always weird to have to write "United Mexican States" on the top of official documents.

Nigel Appleby It’s United Mexican States not United States of Mexico

@@kulera True, that was a typo.

In The Madness of King George (set five years after the Revolutionary War), PM William Pitt says to George III "They are now called the United States, sir." George III replies, "Are they? Goodness me!"

That is because Lincoln succeeded in destroying the FEDERAL system the Founders created which resulted in a CENTRALIZED national government that most of the Founders did NOT want!. Also when referring to just the national government or being referred to by an outsider, the singular "THE" is used; when referring to the group of states internally then the plural "THESE" can be used. Examples: "I'm traveling to THE United States"; "I'm traveling in THESE United States".

@@dennisswaney644 Look at this poor schmuck still trying to fight the Civil War. Sad.

@@dennisswaney644 Well if you're saying "I'm traveling to THE United States" than THESE isn't really appropriate. It would have to be "I'm traveling to THOSE United States."

@@Jotari use the right tense.

Nah then we’d equate to Swedes and Finish lol

Honestly, I'd sound stupid to me.

@@davecullins1606 not to me

Make your own reality, gaslight people into believing that fredonia is real and you are a fredish person, reality is but a thin malleable film.

I mean we'd get less shit about using "America" to refer to our country from everyone else in the Americas...

No body would kneel to that

@@SonOfBmore I would ngl

@@SonOfBmore I would

Ratleheeeeeeaad

@ ანდრეი ველასჰო, same.

Odd I call my mate in East Coast on thanksgiving a festive day! Though, he’s more cheeky on 4th of July lol

😂😂😂

Followers of Fred.

The Marx Brothers - who actually did that, their film Duck Soup.

Honestly it sounds like an actual nationality. I unironically wish it had stuck; I’m sick of hearing people argue about whether Americans are hubristic for calling themselves “Americans” despite being only a part of the American continents.

@@JackHankeAnd It's kind of a dumb argument, really. Like, what else would they call themselves? Statesmen? That's actually a pretty cool name, now that I think about it. A tad confusing, but meh. Still, anything other than "American" that's derived from the name of the country would sound incredibly awkward in English

I've started calling us "Statesmen" specifically due to what Jack Hanke mentioned above. People in the U.S. being referred to as "Americans" exacerbates the already present eclipsing of Latin America and the Caribbean.

Burr; Oh, why not?

Hamilton: _cleans glasses_

A place in Canada got named after Alexander Hamilton

Arron Burr: "So anyway I start blasting."

The world was wide enough

Denzel Washington whoops out his pistol from American Gangster

@@Spongebrain97 *Fredonian gangster

Don't worry, he can Alexander handle it.

@@nebulaone908: A Jacksfilms fan, I see

Add a few dead bodies and boats and it’s accurate

Actually, British Empire became even bigger after it.

Pedro Antonio Blanco Villar they’re talking about the whole.

@@Vienna3080 and the several masscres

The British are snobs not nerds

Andrew Patane Ah, so that’s who it was. That makes a crap ton sense now that you said that

Why so?

@@appleslover The dude loved to flirt, fuck, and freak the fuck out everyone.

@@appleslover Benjamin Franklin was quite the lady's man during his time (to a somewhat notorious degree) and even into his 50s still got women fawning over him wherever he went. His list of purported trysts is honestly rather impressive.

Hfar he must of had a big PP

MyHotdogWeiner the fact Death to america sounds right to you worries me lol

@@doombaboi7291 death to evil imperialist america

@@peoplesrepublicofbritain2032 WHY U BULLY ME???

@@peoplesrepublicofbritain2032 you're not even a real country you're just a fraud

Fredonia, NY is QUAKING

Had to scroll a long way down to find someone who posted this reference...

Except for the slaves lol. Well, everyone else banned slavery long ago so why not call the USA ketchup? Like catch up... to the rest of the world lol

@@cgaccount3669 The above reference is to the 1933 movie Duck Soup, which was set in a country called Fredonia.

CG Account Russia: *SERFISM INTENSIFIES*

JOIN THE ARMY AND SEE THE NAVY

Lol very cool to say

Americans tend not to realize that “state” means “country” to most people outside the US. It’s actually pretty badass that the name implies a Voltron of countries.

​@@drksideofthewal not really. A state is just a territory that is autonomous with its own government. It can be a country or a subdivision of a country.

Or the Marx brothers'.

@@Zephaniah700 His excellency's car!

or despicable me 3

@@Zephaniah700 I’m so sad that i had to scroll this far to find the “Duck Soup” reference recognition

Or Lotr

And a Fredonia, Iowa, and a Fredonia, Kansas.

And Fredonia, Arizona

It was actually Richard ap Meryk (or Richard Amerike in English), a merchant of Welsh origin. However, given that the Waldseemüller map (the first record of the name "America") used the name only to refer to modern South America (explored by Vespucci) while Richard's expedition explored North America, it's unlikely (not impossible, of course, but in matters of history you can rarely be 100% sure of anything).

@Room 315 : Were the mountains already called that at the time?

It was Vespucci. But here's one theory a Jewish historian who adhered to Anglo-Israelist doctrine suggested: A Greek word for "worry" is "meros" or something like that. Since this is to be a land of opportunity, it would with "without worry," or "a-meros." ==> "America." There's no evidence for this whatsoever, regardless of your opinion of Anglo-Israelism. But the other alternatives are little more than people desperately trying to come up with an alternative just to be funny.

All that I'm getting from these discussions is that multiple acts of providence shows that these continents were always destined to be called America.

@@samuelnakai1804 It does make one wonder.

Laughs in American.

the war of the 2 Georges

It is a bit backwards. They were colonies _before_ "Farmer" George III. They became independent thanks to a loan from Louis XVI which they never paid back.

Angry beef plant sound

@@davidwuhrer6704 not until we entered WW I and II though we still owe France money lol, no wonder Macron issued digital taxes on us.

Sounds like French

@@gog_magpie i was thinking of sweden

@@Iason29 Frede also sounds like Swede

Sounds like a candy.

The South would not approve at the time.

French revolution approved

So... having gone over it, they're actually more likely to have been named after their weapon "Frankon" (which looked a lot like a javelin) in a process similar to the Saxons (after a dagger they called a "sahson" now called a seax). However, within the Gallo-Romance language "francus" Took the meaning "free" as they were exempt from the laws and thus "free" of them. It turned into the old French "franc" and from there also took on the meaning "noble" later on for the more obvious reason that well... the nobles were Franks.

Did you comment on the Drew Durnill video? "Missouri has a lot of Italians in the St Louis area, I knew it would be something Italian or ribs."

@Silas Griffin he comments on a lot of videos

Of course kim Jung un would notice that

Gives translation to Americani but doesn't give translation to Statunitensi Sidenote: It's clear what it means, don't bother editing a translation in.

@@yoavmor9002 I didn't because it doesn't exist in English.

In Latin America , we call them "estadounidenses" wich is basically "unitedstatians". We use the word "americanos" for any people from America, the whole continent, almost never referring to the people of USA.

@Max15 so us over in the United States refer to ourselves as Americans and our country we call the United States or just America.

@@Max15691 that would be the correct way. But calling someone from Mexico, Brazil, Argentina or even Canada "American" would feel very weird and misleading for us.

It is my understanding that the way English was written at that time nouns were capitalized and adjectives were not. That is why the name was written as "the united States of America" in the Declaration of Independence; but usage was inconsistent. Later in the Declaration the term "United Colonies" was used with both words capitalized.

Aight

I'm in

Thud.

"Hail Hail Freedonia, home of the free, AND BRAAAAVE!" Shout out to all who get the reference!

Erm im the the future.....it never catched on

Sadly, that movie predicted the break up of Yugoslavia.

America means "winner winner chicken dinners"

Burr; "oh, alright. If it'll shut you up."

Reminds me of oversimplified

I thought that was Hamilton?

Фръдония

I was scrolling through the comments here just waiting for someone to finally mention Ol' Ben with the lipstick smeared all over his face. 😁

Well, that's the point, genius brain. 🙄 No one is supposed to hog the toponym if them petty posers are foreign in like THIRTY FOUR different countries located in the area that THEY themselves claim... whether or not they're too provincial or full of shit to admit it. Furthermore, considering how you seem to have very much misconstrued what is the actual plea and then went to project your version onto people, it's not very surprising that it's still fly over your head...

@@quidam_surprise "No one is supposed to hog the toponym" Australia. Also, it's the "United States *OF* America," not "United States that are America," dumbass. That's not hogging a toponym, that's you being mad at a country for no realistic reason and getting mad about it lmao.

How many with the exception of South Africa and the Central African Republic, there are not many other countries making reference to the country they are from, because it is actually silly... just imagine: Germany of Europe, China of Asia... wtf??

@@martinog8223 ​ Firstly, "there are not many other countries making reference to the country they are from," you mean "which continent they are from." Secondly, Germany and China were forcibly united as political entities, with Germany being united primarily by Prussia's military dominance (Not directly conquering the other German states, but through the soft power of their military, you should get the idea) and the many eras of sovereign Chinese countries through conquest. The United States were multiple States agreeing to a Union which was seen as by many at it's founding as insoluble, and as such, they adopted a name that would apply to every state without being exclusive. Do you think the name should've been "The United States of New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Georgia?" No, because that name is entirely silly. Multiple states were willingly giving up large parts of their sovereignty for a common goal, obviously they'd use a name like United States of America. Thirdly, it's ironic you bring up Germany while Germany is currently in the European Union, which is extremely close to being a country, with the only real preventatives being that nobody thinks of it as a country, and any member can leave the EU pretty much for whatever reason. Fourth, even if you just chose "United States," that'd still be "hogging the name," from other countries such as the full name of Mexico, which is United Mexican States, or countries such as The United States of Belgium (1790), United States of Brazil (1889-1967), or United States of Colombia (1863-1886). Finally, I think it's ridiculous for you to call it "silly," and then pull up an example of two centralized countries. There's no need to call Germany "of Europe," because it's just one solid political entity. There's not as much leeway for the German subdivisions when it comes to law and politics, ergo, there's no need to refer to it as "United States of Germany," thus there's no need to specify anything about Germany.

Thank you!

Well the uk and usa owned the Oregon territory at the same time but it dis not like the map

Precisely.

Well it isn't quite that simple because for a while no body knew what it should be structured like.

LEFT4BASS that’s not true. At all. The United States was always meant to be a Federation, never a Confederation. Those are very different things. In a Confederation there are several countries that work together as an organization, but where the central government of each country still has the last say in all matters of their own nation. In a Federation, (like the United States, Russia, Germany, Brazil, Canada and many others) although each state/province has high degree of autonomy, the Federal government has the overarching sovereignty and they have the last say. The United States was founded as a country, not a group of countries. A Federation, not a Confederation.

@@siononalundula1699 Technically, the USA was created as a Confederation and shifted to a Federation with the adoption of the American Constitution.

Cramer I think you’re right, actually. It was created as a group of states mainly to break free from the British, and then was formally made into a Federation with the Constitution. You’re right.

Pretending to be a smartass, I see? Ok.

He was a cartographer...not a claimer of lands

His name was Amerigo with the g, still a better name than Colombia since Amerigo was the first to understand that America was a continent on itself ( by exploring South America, so little connections to the usa)

@@lorisuprifranz In Spanish it is spelled with a C

@@EvansdiAl Ok but he was Genoese, so it's original spelling was with the g

How is Iron Harvest?

I pay you 50 cents for it.

Brian Fox that’s because the United States of America existed in 1798 lmao Edit: that’s cool as fuck

@@TheLocalLt That's just what the Masons and Illuminati want you to think. ;) :P

@@user-xb9yv2ci4c Well 50 is more than 1 so that sounds like a great deal to me. Sold!

@@brianfox771 Well the Inflation exist

Arse kidder