Who needs a L bracket when you have an Atoll?

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Update: Atoll, just removed the Om-1 & EM1 from the list of compatible camera because the 'models have bigger grips, it will cause smaller finger space between ATOLL and camera. Not recommended because of the bad experience of grasp.'
For this week's video, I share with you a new product I just bought that will make you reconsider your L Bracket system. Let me know in the comments below what you think of this new product. Also, stay until the end as I have a little bonus for you! Look forward to discussing this topic with you. For the OM-1 I bought the Atoll C + the Heightening Plate.
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@drrrw Год назад

This is going to be super useful for gimbal work! Thanks for the demo!

@kitakado7113 Год назад

Thank you for your share! This is what I have been looking for! I ordered it!

@ggwildlife Год назад

excellent will look into this what a genius whoever came up with this, thanks for sharing.

@philiplockwood5243 Год назад

Hello Emilie. Thanks for your video presenting an interesting product. Personally I have an L-bracket on my EM1 Mk3 from RRS. It is on all the time so that whenever I need it it's there, independent of the lens I use. No problem with the screen or port access also. Having said that I always appreciate your videos, many thanks for all your efforts and sharings.

@johnwaller6817 Год назад

Greetings Emilie and thanks so much for sharing this info about the atoll system! I use the OM-1 and OM-D M E1 Mk III cameras. I visited the website and after further review, discovered the atoll D mount has an extended mounting plate to position the ring further out from the camera grip, so I picked up the D ring and heightening plate to give them a try. I my go ahead and pick up a C also. After all, the cost of two rings and mounts is practically the same as a high end L Bracket. I'm believing either will work. Thanks again and Cheers for 2023!🍷🍷🌹

@metalmick99 Год назад

Thank you Emilie for this interesting clip. I got my OM-1- and truly enjoy using it. I'm not entirely sold on the Atoll yet, even though I have a (horrid!) L-bracket that has all the issues you mentioned. I'm not sure I can get my fingers through to the function buttons to the right of the lens mount and changing lenses might also be a little difficult. I don't have huge, meaty hands either. That said, I love it when someone takes a refreshing perspective to an existing problem, so kudos to the crew at Atoll. I'm not saying "No" as yet, but it's almost AUD$200 and my financial controller (wife) has the final veto. That focus bracketing sheet is very, very welcome too. So thank you.

@blackbears4649 Год назад

Thank you Emilie. The Atol looks great from what I can see and I love the ease of rotation. However, I do use my Lfn button on my lenses for my landscape photography and I noticed the ring blocks my access to that. They are on the right track though. Great video.

@catherinejoanpiazza420 Год назад

I'm about to receive an OM-1 today and have been frustrated with L-bracket issues with my EM1-III. I personally don't like using the ball-head notch for portrait mode. I just ordered your version of the Atoll C with heightening plate. I watched your handling of this model and it seems fine and a great solution. Thanks for this!

@ddeewwyy_ Год назад

Appreciate you for showing the compatibility with the peak design travel tripod. Answered all my question about it and solidified my purchase.

@EmilieT Год назад

The company now does not recommend it for OM1 but I kept mine because for me, the space to hold the camera is no an issue

@ddeewwyy_ Год назад

@@EmilieT I currently run sony, are there issues with that?

@williamtaylor8806 Год назад

interesting! i have no use for one but i do appreciate new ideas. thanks!

@andrewsykes2401 Год назад

A great product for use on a still day. In high wind though the flexibility in the system means that there is a lot of camera shake.

@mgerspix Год назад

Just came across your video on this. I got the Atoll a while ago for my OM-1 & Em-1 series bodies specifically for use on astro tracking mounts when using any lens that doesn't have its own tripod collar. This avoids using a ball head on top of the declination bracket, and simply adds camera rotation which is all you want. Other than the known grip size problem preventing full rotation, the Atoll works well for my purpose. For general photo use mounted on a ball head, I'm not so sure about it being any easier to use compared to a basic L-bracket, except for the port access issues. I think of the Atoll more as a tripod collar that's on the body, not the lens, if that makes sense.

@99unclebob Год назад

Nice video Emilie, I am looking to get one in the near future for my Sony A74 , my friend purchased one for his Nikon and loves it and is in Japan right now with it and he's getting many questions from the local people about it. 👍

@jean-christophearlandis2343 Год назад

Bonjour Emilie, merci pour la présentation de cet accessoire très intéressant. En plus, je comprends votre anglais :) . J'en profite pour vous souhaiter une bonne année.

@EmilieT Год назад

Merci Jean Christophe. Bonne année à vous aussi.

@DeMorcan Год назад

l like the Alzo flip bracket. And it does not block access to the side. I use the one with the umbella and flash bar so I can use move the flash to one side on the camera instead of straight above. It is just quicker and easier. It can be used handheld or on a tripod.

@SwissNetHawk 7 часов назад

I wonder what that quick mount mechanism is on your tripod. Never seen this system, but it looks very interesting.

@UNLKYHNTR Год назад

This thing is a blessing for astrophotography

@Aviator168 Год назад

Pretty cool. I want one.

@angelogarciajr5356 9 дней назад

Very cool

@johannrafetzeder465 Год назад

Thank you!

@EmilieT Год назад

You are welcome!

@stephenelderphoto Год назад

Hi Emilie. This looks like a superb product, which is actually quite reasonably priced. I paid about $100 for my Smallrig cage for the OM-1, and I bought it without paying attention to the fact that there was no side arca swiss fitting. I love that the Atoll will let me keep the cage attached while using the Atoll! Very cool. The only problem is that I can’t find anyone in the UK right now that has the Atoll available. Oh well, I will be patient. Thanks for bringing this great product to my attention.

@EmilieT Год назад

You might try to go directly from the company? They might ship it to the UK?

@dogs4399 Год назад

I made that same 'mistake' with the small rig. However, I attached an ARCA plate to the side and it works great. But this Atoll looks terrific. I am curious about whether there's enough room for my fingers on the grip.

@EmilieT Год назад

@@dogs4399 The Atoll recently decided that they would not recommend if for the OM1. I am ok with it but I have very thin fingers.

@kamilrakowski23 Год назад

Wow! A really great product. Too bad it's not available in Europe yet. I have a smallrig cage for the om-1 and extra arca swiss plate, but this is great for smaller cameras, like pen f.

@cjk1943 Год назад

nice idea happy new year

@EmilieT Год назад

Happy New Year to you too

@andymok7945 11 месяцев назад

Looks really nice. What I find disappointing is that most of the accessories for the OM-1 are made for camera body only. I always have my battery grip attached. I can shoot longer and of course have my camera in portrait orientation and be stable instead of having the right arm up in the air.

@BillSmithBSartist 9 месяцев назад

Thanks for the video. What is the round tag hanging from your camera?

@VirtualTourPhotographer 7 месяцев назад

I do wonder if this can also be used as a 'no parallax point adapter similar to the nodal ninja R series. It would then allow for full lens access and control. Thoughts?

@mr.l6982 Год назад

I did not find the bracketing worksheet on Chris’ website.

@patrickmackay741 Год назад

Hello :) J'entends à ton accent (1ère vidéo que je vois de toi) que tu es francophone voire française :) (Personne n'est parfait :D Je vais aller voir leur site, mais pour un produit équivalent, on m'a dit que le défaut - pour un Fujifilm - est que le bouton de release de l'objectif est difficile à atteindre. Ensuite il faut voir si l'ensemble de ton parc objo pourra encore se connecter à l'apn. Dans une autre vidéo, un photographe disait ne pas savoir installer tel ou tel caillou une fois cet accessoire placé... Je n'ai pas la référence de ce youtubeur mais il donnait ça comme principal défaut. Excellent produit qui m'intéresserait s'il s'adapte à mes Fujifilm et les cailloux qui vont avec :) En attendant je vais prendre le temps de découvrir tes vidéos

@creativeip 4 месяца назад

Hi, good information. Have you tried NiSi W-72 rotatable mount? I use Sony and Sony has so many options (I use Smallrig rotatable mount). And now, I am buying OM-1 M2 and 90mm Macro and I will badly need a rotatable mount or L-bracket. I livev in India and we don't get 3 legged thing, here. I am curious on NiSi W-72 ( 3 pieces are available in India).

@edboatman2725 Год назад

This is great product! Which model of Atoll do you use for a Micro Four Thirds camera? I use a Panasonic LUMIX G9.

@tim1398 Год назад

Like you I don't like an L bracket. I would not use it the vast majority of the time as I am handheld, and would resent the extra weight and bulk. I've also thought the portrait vs landscape orientation is not as important for m43 as the image fairly close to square (unlike FF 3:2) and you can recrop in post. I do have an L bracket that will attach to Peak Design plate if I really need. This device is interesting, but seems large for m43. Also it blocks the lens switches.

@vinodp195 Год назад

Dear Emilie, your contents are great and I am following you regularly. I consider this buying one for me. Thanks. Can you please provide the details of the tripod head that you have used in this demonstration?

@EmilieT Год назад

I use the Peakdesign travel tripod on this video. I will do a review soon on it. I have had it for 4 years now.

@scottlewisphotography Год назад

On a lens with a tripod foot like the 40-150 PRO or thr 150-400, is this better/different than doing the same kind of rotation in the collar for the tripod foot?

@EmilieT Год назад

Great questions, for those two lenses, use the tripod foot of the lens definitely. You don't want all the weight of the lenses on the camera connection.

@marklaurendet1861 Год назад

Looks like an interesting product. Could you update the notes with all the spacers etc to get this to work with the OM-1 since the site does not seem to list the camera as compatable, but I could have miss read. It would be good to know what items you actually obtained. Hopefully it will work with all the other cameras like EM1.3 as well. . I could only find the kickstarter page and reviews. If they have an official site could someone post a link as it looks like something I could be interested in for Macro work

@EmilieT Год назад

Just did. I bought the Atoll C + the Heightening Plate to make it work on the OM-1.

@marklaurendet1861 Год назад

@@EmilieT Thanks for the confirmation. I think this is something I will be trying in 2023 if I can find a place to purchase it from.

@lindakrugman6534 Год назад

It's available through Kickstarter. I checked yesterday.

@Bunnyisms Год назад

Is there a way to make that kind of thing work for an E-M1X? That's what I have, but I also have a smaller Olympus body I could use

@EmilieT Год назад

Unfortunately it doesn't work on the EM1X. Only OM1, Em1, Em1 mark II, Em1 mark III according to their website.

@CostcoSamurai Год назад

I have a om em5 mark ii, which atoll should I get, should I get the atoll ?. Later I want to get an om1 too. Thanks for your advice

@EmilieT Год назад

I am not sure as I don't have this camera. I would contact the company directly and ask them. Sorry about that. They are now not advising this product with the OM SYSTEM camera, unfortunately. I still kept mine and it is ok.

@aldintv1 Год назад

very interesting, do you maybe know if it work with the sony a6000/sigma 16mm f1.4?

@EmilieT Год назад

You will have to go to their website and check. They have a list of what camera works and you can email them directly and ask as I do not own sony gear.

@mark1hancock Год назад

Not sure if it is the camera angle you were filming from but the lens didn't look very centered which is a concern

@h.e.verheijden8083 Год назад

Great but it locks lens button 😢

@digidraxe8052 Год назад

I always enjoy your videos Emilie and I am grateful to the link to Chris McGinnis' site. But with respect to the ATOLL system, ouch! It costs $3,500 to set up your OM1 with the ATOLL. For the same cost or less, I could buy a new OM1 camera complete with any M.Zuiko lens, less the three that come with their own rotating collars. Better yet I would be more than one third of the way to paying for a 150-400. Now that could make a real difference in my photography.

@bear8453 Год назад

I use it on my OM1 with slight reistriction to the grip and 2 front buttons

@JensMHA Год назад

Taiwan $ 32 to $1 USD

@EmilieT Год назад

It cost around $105. I am going to update the link right now and post it from Hunt's

@digidraxe8052 Год назад

@@EmilieT Thank you Emilie. At that cost it is well worth considering.

@digidraxe8052 Год назад

@@EmilieT I have since learned that currency is listed in Taiwanese dollars. That makes sense. Thanks.

@massimomenzaghi1683 Год назад

Especially in macro I need to rotate the framing and I miss this option with the 60 macro. I hope the new 90 will have tripod collar! Anyway, in your video (Thanks!) the Atoll is not perfectly on axis with te lens; I look on silencecorner and I viewed that there are minimal regulation you can do with allen screws: did you tried it? There are plus than one Heightening Plate that can be evalueted?

@EmilieT Год назад

Thank you for your comment. You are right about the Allen screw. I used a different lens when I set it up and need to redo it. One extra plate is what the company recommended and I used it but there are plenty of minor adjustments you can do.

@massimomenzaghi1683 Год назад

Thank you!

@lindakrugman6534 Год назад

I dove into the kickstarter page and found that it's not recommended for the OM-1 and E-M1 (all versions) because it impinges on the grip area. Bummer! Emilie, what do you think about the grip experience?

@EmilieT Год назад

Good question. It is not bad for me (but you know it is there and close to your hand) but I do not have really big hands. I made sure to move the atoll further from the lens so I can still have a good grip.

@nyingjea6837 Год назад

Hi Emilie! Great video! What tripod are you using with the Atoll? I like the quick release on the tripod with the Atoll.Thank you again for a great video and sharing your knowledge.

@EmilieT Год назад

Thank you. I am using the Fotopro E6 Eagle Series Tripod Kit and also the peak design travel tripod. Those are my two tripods. Highly recommend them.

@nyingjea6837 Год назад

@@EmilieT Thank you very much! I greatly appreciate the info. I will check both of them out.

@chrispatmore8944 Год назад

All my tripods either have a ball head or the baseplate angles to 90 degrees very easily. My telephoto lenses have rotating collars. Why would I need an extra overpriced gadget? On the other hand, that chart is super handy and an excellent price.

@charliedennis3754 Год назад

Emilie what is the name of the ball head that you are using. Also what is the name of the tripod. Happy New Year to you. The ease of the way you lock in the Atoll. I am looking for a good tripod without a center post

@EmilieT Год назад

Hi Charlie, Happy new year to you too. I am using the Fotopro E6L. Love it. I will make a review on it in the future. www.fotoprousa.com/product/e6l/

@charliedennis3754 Год назад

Thank you for getting back to me.

@echoauxgen 4 месяца назад

Research, RESEARCH this circle over the lense DOES NOT have a paddle to push the button that releases the lens! Your big fingers have to squeeze under the device to release the lens.

@EmilieT Месяц назад

That is correct. That is why they don't recommend it with OM SYSTEM cameras anymore.

@romvac Год назад

Is it possible to change battery with this mount on a camera?

@EmilieT Год назад

Yes zero problem

@guykerr8111 Год назад

I tried ordering one for my OM1 Mark lll and was told it is no longer recommended - due to small gape between Atoll and camera making gripping an issue. Have you found gripping an issue? Thanks.

@EmilieT Год назад

Hi Guy. I saw that and posted a note in the comment of my video. I personally do not have an issue but I understand that some people might if they want to hold the grip.

@guykerr8111 Год назад

@@EmilieT Thanks. Bought one for my OM1 and works fine except I have issue reaching front two fn buttons, but oh well. Using it regularly.

@jasongreene8062 Год назад

This product looks amazing, what a great idea. I however went to the website and the cost is over $3,000!! That's more than the OM-1. Insane.

@ivarschiager8529 Год назад

100TWD equals 3,32USD!

@cdof5981 Год назад

2880 Taiwan dollars is about $94 US or €87. The official website says it does not list EM1s or OM-1 in its compatibility list, it is honest in pointing out limitations and suggests buying only after considering the limitations.

@anthonygarbo8114 Год назад

Taiwan $ 32 to $1 USD

@jasongreene8062 Год назад

@@ivarschiager8529 Ohhh... 😂 sorry for not noticing that. Thank for clarifying!

@jasongreene8062 Год назад

@@cdof5981 I see, thanks for the clarification!! 😂

@MooseBear82 Год назад

Do you know if the Atoll will take a manfrotto quick release plate?

@EmilieT Год назад

I am not sure. But I will ask.

@EmilieT Год назад

Just heard back and this is the answer: the ¼” 20 thread on the bottom would allow for someone to use their currently existing Manfrotto plates without any problems.

@mr.l6982 Год назад

You and Chris need to get together in the Lehigh Valley (Bethlehem) and do a Macro workshop!

@EmilieT Год назад

That would be fun!

@ivarschiager8529 Год назад

What about the zoom-ring and the function buttons behind the Atoll?

@Sande1s Год назад

All proper tripod ballheads also allow turning the camera sideways. More so, all quality L brackets come with an additional 1/4" screw hole so one can attach the Peak Design standard plate without blocking any possible battery doors. There are also Capture Clip compatible L brackets on the market. This Atoll however blocks access to lens switches and the aperture ring.

@EmilieT Год назад

Yes you can move the Atoll and have space to access them

@Sande1s Год назад

@@EmilieT Moving it to block access to the zoom or focus ring in turn? Surely the Atoll works for people, but not all - to answer your question "who needs an L bracket?".

@worldwidewayman Год назад

I am also an OM-1 shooter and have been frustrated in not being able to find a good L-bracket solution. But the Atoll solves everything! I have a couple of questions, though: My tripods are Manfrotto and they use their own proprietary mount (not Arca-Swiss). Their type of mount is clearly not compatible with the Atoll which looks like it has an Arca-Swiss mount. Is this true? If so I can easily convert my Manfrottos to Arca-Swiss. The other question is about the correct model of Atoll I need for the OM-1. On your video info you say you have the Atoll C + Heightening Plate but on the Atoll website it specifies the Atoll D + Heightening Plate for the OM-1. It states that this solves the problem of being able to fit your fingers around the OM-1's grip when the Atoll is fitted. But on your video you say you can still get your fingers around your grip even with the Atoll C + Heightening Plate. So are you sure you have the Atoll C and not the Atoll D? Because I want to be sure to order the right one? Thank you for your video and your help answering my questions.

@EmilieT Год назад

Thank you for the questions. Yes not compatible with Manfrotto. I do have the correct set up but Atoll has now decided it is not made for OM-1 as people have complained about lack of space. For me it is fine but I understand why some people do not like it.

@godsinbox Год назад

Seems like a good product, but the manufacturers are concerned about complaints. "ATOLL C+Heightening Plate. Some users feel that ATOLL is too large for EM1/OM1. The finger space between the ATOLL and the grip is too small to hold the camera. So we have removed EM1 and OM1 from the available compatibility list"

@EmilieT Год назад

Thank you for posting this. I just saw that. They are leaving it to the customers to decide if it is a good fit or not. Ummm...

@godsinbox Год назад

@@EmilieT They Recommend the 'D' version as you can slide the baseplate to make more finger room, but stop short of saying it is fully compatible.

@iorisuzuki-555 Год назад

@@EmilieT Emilie, you seem not to have problems with the space between the grip and the ring. You probably have small hands like me, so can you tell us if you've had any difficulty using it in the field?

@EmilieT Год назад

@@iorisuzuki-555 I personally do not have issues in the field with it but I can see why some people might as it does limit the grip.

@daveinportland Год назад

It looks like it will make changing lenses even more of a chore as it looks like it blocks the lens release.

@EmilieT Год назад

It works fine with me but some people have been complaining about it I think as they are not recommending the Atoll for the OM-1 anymore.

@daveinportland Год назад

@@EmilieT I love the concept/idea. Thanks for sharing.

@GrahamMarkham 3 месяца назад

It doesn't allow you to switch to portrait mode if your have a cable connected to the camera !!!!

@t2bb 11 месяцев назад

seems to obscure important functions on the lens :( L-bracket is still better.

@EmilieT 11 месяцев назад

It is a little bit. I might try to check an L-bracket in the future. I just really like the concept of this product.

@t2bb 11 месяцев назад

Lens rings are good for panoramics and bird watchers but are normally lens specific. NodalNinja do some good ones for Fisheye lenses and most of the L bracket makers to lens mounts for telephoto lenses. iShoot do some good lens mounts for tilt-shift lenses. The AToll fails right at the concept stage, it is astonishing that it is actually manufactured.@@EmilieT

@hilarylee5332 Год назад

great product, ridiculous price

@EmilieT Год назад

Price is not in US dollars. I put a link to Hunt's with US price.

@rogerhance5883 Год назад

Its looks a great bit of kit, but ridiculously overpriced. Its more than an OM1 ¬

@scottlewisphotography Год назад

Roger, that's the price in TWD. In USD it is about $94 or $77 GBP.

@tonyfabris367 Год назад

It looks and it is way too big for that camera and made for “ one size fits all “.Now the are other companies making the same bracket that fit different camera and lenses perfectly …Cheers 😢

@xavpil2 Год назад

In 2023 you need a Rode Go mic to post on RU-vid. Your video would be so much more enjoyable. Interesting content though

@EmilieT Год назад

I did have one and returned it. I now have the dji. Great piece of equipment. I use this and my LS-P5 for the videos. Both are great.

@hobo456 Год назад

hahah attach 100-400mm and you will know your answer :P :P :P L bracket is way better than Atoll :P :P

@EmilieT Год назад

With a telephoto lens, use the lens feet to switch to landscape and portrait. If you use a L bracket you are putting a lot of pressure on your camera body.