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Who needs functioning reverb anyways? | 1968 Fender Super Reverb Repair pt.2 

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Is Reverb on a Super Reverb really THAT important?
Some unexpected bumps along the way, but fear not! I'll be recording how the amp is sounding so far tonight! Subscribe to catch the upload 🤘
1968 Fender Super Reverb Playlist: • 1968 Super Reverb Blac...
00:00 - Status update
03:01 - BIG IRON time!
09:50 - 3 Prong re-wired
12:37 - Woopsies!
14:36 - FIRE HER UP!
17:17 - Setting the bias
18:48 - Let's try using a scope
20:32 - Volume pot mystery
21:50 - Resistance confusion
24:59 - Tube socket cleaning
26:56 - Spring tanks oh my
30:28 - Reverb CRAZY!
33:37 - Troubleshooting time!
37:59 - Takeaways
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@goodun2974
@goodun2974 Месяц назад
If a reverb tank in an amplifier is found to not have a piece of cardboard or masonite underneath it, I suggest adding one so that when you bag the tank the bag doesn't wrinkle up underneath the tank and contact the underside of the transducers, impeding their isolation and mechanically short-circuiting their suspension (the transducers are the lowest hanging fruit here, and are mounted to a spring-isolated subchassis in order to provide resistance against feedback). Sometimes the isolation springs have stretched a little bit and the entire subchassis, with it's transducers, might be hanging slightly lower than the bottom lip of the reverb tank; use 2 layers of cardboard as a bottom, with the uppermost cardboard layer having a cut out directly below the transducers so that they still "float" without bottoming out. It may be tempting to move the short isolating springs to the other unused holes in the shell of the tank, which are further apart, in order to increase their tension and lift the subchassis up a little higher, but I dont know if this would affect the resonant frequency of the tank and/or whether it would lessen the feedback isolation. I'd love to hear from anyone who has experience with this sort of thing.
@BradsGuitarGarage
@BradsGuitarGarage Месяц назад
Yoooo! Thatnks for the shoutout, cuz. I owe you an ale.
@YeatzeeGuitar
@YeatzeeGuitar Месяц назад
❤️
@stevelark9840
@stevelark9840 Месяц назад
Nice clean work! One thing I noticed... The black, hot wire from the power cord should be going to the gold screw and the white neutral should be going to the silver screw on the courtesy outlet. Even though the outlet isn't grounded, it does have polarity based on the size of the input slot.
@goodun2974
@goodun2974 Месяц назад
Your bench looks like it was built from old-growth pine flooring pulled from a 1920's hardware store. At some point you may have to resist the temptation to build an amp cabinet with it!😉
@krisharrop3764
@krisharrop3764 Месяц назад
Nice work brother!
@Kdawg270
@Kdawg270 Месяц назад
Just have to say Man you pay a lot of a mind to everything, Well Done 🙂
@YeatzeeGuitar
@YeatzeeGuitar Месяц назад
Thanks! Can't turn that side of me off
@RaxFx
@RaxFx Месяц назад
When soldering, I use Silly Putty to hold wires in place.
@killereverb3928
@killereverb3928 Месяц назад
I had a ‘66 Super Reverb and the Reverb was flat thin and lacking. I had a ‘79 Princeton Reverb that had the most luscious fat wonderful Reverb one could ask for.
@YeatzeeGuitar
@YeatzeeGuitar Месяц назад
They can be all over the place I guess, depending on how healthy the tank and circuit is. We'll hear how this accutronics tank from the reissue spring unit sounds soon 😊
@huddyskiba1
@huddyskiba1 Месяц назад
Dude… batting 1000 on chassis grounds. 😘👌
@YeatzeeGuitar
@YeatzeeGuitar Месяц назад
🙏 I've worked hard on that skill!
@huddyskiba1
@huddyskiba1 Месяц назад
@@YeatzeeGuitar it’s the parallel parking of amp repair. Some people got it. Some don’t.
@goodun2974
@goodun2974 Месяц назад
​@@YeatzeeGuitar, I'm an old dog who has somehow managed to learn a few new tricks from Psionic Audio and Brad"s Guitar Garage!
@matthewf1979
@matthewf1979 Месяц назад
Those reverb transducer usually can't be fixed. That brass pin is connected to a very thin wire if I recall. When it's pulled out, that's it. The MOD short decay tank is pretty dang good to my ears. 4AB1C1B is the part number from Antique Electronics Supply.
@YeatzeeGuitar
@YeatzeeGuitar Месяц назад
Originals would be long decay wouldnt they?
@YeatzeeGuitar
@YeatzeeGuitar Месяц назад
James @ rewind electric did a video where he was able to transfer a pin with its wire and hook over successfully, I maaaay give that a try for fun 😬
@matthewf1979
@matthewf1979 Месяц назад
@@YeatzeeGuitar The original tanks have about a 2 second decay. The modern long decay tanks are approaching the 5 second area. Try to fix it!
@oldasrocks9121
@oldasrocks9121 Месяц назад
@@YeatzeeGuitarThe big Gibbs were in Hammond's like H100s and A100s, might be your best bet for a low mileage one.
@YeatzeeGuitar
@YeatzeeGuitar Месяц назад
@@matthewf1979 had no idea the modern ones are so different in specs!
@MichaelSmith-rn1qw
@MichaelSmith-rn1qw Месяц назад
I don't know if they still sell it, but the plastic tack they sold to hold up posters would work for holding wires in place. No 1970's dorm room would be complete without plastic tack holding up your Farrah Faucet poster (or Andy Gibbs, lol). Check your office supply store. Edit: that Accutronics Reverb tank is likely original, although both of my 1969 amps have a Gibbs 64063 tank. If you do need to replace the tank, MOD sells a good replacement. The proper tank for any vintage Fender amp is 4AB3C1B. You can find a table to see what each letter or number represents, on Stew-Mac or Ted Weber's websites.
@goodun2974
@goodun2974 Месяц назад
Brad's Guitar Garage in Australia uses a blob of BluTack to hold wires down during his repair videos ---- but someone in the comments here recommends using Silly Putty because it's more resistant to soldering-iron heat than BluTack is.
@Kdawg270
@Kdawg270 Месяц назад
I sometimes burn my wires just to make a new wire sound old only cause I suck at soldering LOL
@YeatzeeGuitar
@YeatzeeGuitar Месяц назад
😂
@goodun2974
@goodun2974 Месяц назад
It might have been instructive to set the wipers on both the original potentiometer and the replacement pot to their mechanical midpoint and then measure them from one side to the wiper and then the other side to the wiper to see if the taper of the two pots is similar or not. Newbies to this stuff may find it informative for learning the conceptual difference between linear and logarithmic pots, and how audio tapers may vary.
@YeatzeeGuitar
@YeatzeeGuitar Месяц назад
Fair point
@goodun2974
@goodun2974 Месяц назад
@@YeatzeeGuitar , By the way, I hate plastic shaft pots, primarily because they can get sheared off if banged into. They do have the advantage of not seizing up from galvanic corrosion, and the shafts ate easy to cut and shorten to length; but in the past I've encountered some cases where plastic shaft pots react with certain control cleaning chemicals and seize up almost immediately when sprayed.
@YeatzeeGuitar
@YeatzeeGuitar Месяц назад
Oof! I've got some 1meg pots coming to replace it and see if that helps with the terrible taper
@dyamariv3628
@dyamariv3628 Месяц назад
So what happened with the "original" volume pot, you put it back in. Was it reading odd still or was that just because it was in the circuit? I
@YeatzeeGuitar
@YeatzeeGuitar Месяц назад
Just being weird in circuit 🤷‍♂️
@dyamariv3628
@dyamariv3628 Месяц назад
@@YeatzeeGuitar Interesting to learn, I've never measured a pot in circuit. Good to know!
@YeatzeeGuitar
@YeatzeeGuitar Месяц назад
@@dyamariv3628 me either, not in that position
@Mr.T711
@Mr.T711 Месяц назад
Is the ground supposed to be longer than the hot, neutral on the three prong wall cable?
@YeatzeeGuitar
@YeatzeeGuitar Месяц назад
Yes
@Mr.T711
@Mr.T711 Месяц назад
Thanks, wanted to verify.
@goodun2974
@goodun2974 Месяц назад
If it was me personally, I wouldn't leave the death cap in place for "looks", I would remove it entirely; and although normally I'd give old parts back to the customer, I think I would throw that capacitor in the garbage. Considering that Ajax blue molded caps are "unobtainium", somebody might be tempted to use that cap in another amp repair or build, but it was under-rated and inadequate for the job, and has likely been severely stressed by AC wall voltage, therefore probably leaky (electrically) and not trustworthy. AC and DC ratings of capacitors are not directly comparable; modern "safety capacitors" are spec'd at 1000 volts and specifically designed to be self-healing and/or to fail "open", not shorted, in cases of an overload; but Fender used an ordinary 400 Volt DC rated capacitor as the death cap.
@YeatzeeGuitar
@YeatzeeGuitar Месяц назад
Check the next part of the series uploaded the other day, death cap was removed and they're actually 600v spec. I put it in the PI position tested for leakiness and it's fine 🤷‍♂️
@goodun2974
@goodun2974 Месяц назад
@@YeatzeeGuitar , interesting ---- but I still wouldn't trust repurposing it as a coupling cap that has to block high DC voltage. The peaks and noise spikes of an AC power line are very rough on capacitors, although granted the amplifier was probably being played with the switch in the lowest-noise position that put the capacitor on the neutral side of the power cord and not on the hot side.....
@YeatzeeGuitar
@YeatzeeGuitar Месяц назад
@@goodun2974 that's exactly my thought, and then this was already 3 pronged so 🤷‍♂️
@Kdawg270
@Kdawg270 Месяц назад
I would think when ever we change old stuff and then add new stuff they are not going to play well with one another...
@YeatzeeGuitar
@YeatzeeGuitar Месяц назад
As long as everything is in spec!
@oldasrocks9121
@oldasrocks9121 Месяц назад
Got to 40 minutes: broken reverb tanks usually stay that way, there's no reliable way to repair the transducers. The new MODs are way better than the present Accutronics.
@YeatzeeGuitar
@YeatzeeGuitar Месяц назад
I kind of want to find a Gibbs 👀
@gregbaker9579
@gregbaker9579 Месяц назад
If you can’t find one the MojoTone ones are awesome. Lyle recommended one for my 72 PR and it has a beautiful sound!
@oldasrocks9121
@oldasrocks9121 Месяц назад
@@YeatzeeGuitar If you put a Mojotone in a bag no one but you will know... Srsly, should you go new they've got 3 dwell lengths, choice of 2 or 3 springs, multiple ohm ratings and input output configs and they're $26 bucks. Sound samples on site, you'll find the shorter delay is brighter, longest is swampy and dark, pick your flavor. Iirc the bags are $9?
@YeatzeeGuitar
@YeatzeeGuitar Месяц назад
@@oldasrocks9121 I've got a friend coming by next week with a couple tanks to test, we'll see how they fair!
@oldasrocks9121
@oldasrocks9121 Месяц назад
Blue tac is that plastic putty your mom would make you use to stick posters to your wall instead of tape.
@seanblythe9109
@seanblythe9109 Месяц назад
I used it only one time because the heat got to it and it was a nightmare to clean up lol
@YeatzeeGuitar
@YeatzeeGuitar Месяц назад
😂 Gotcha!
@YeatzeeGuitar
@YeatzeeGuitar Месяц назад
@@seanblythe9109 oof 😆 keep away from the big iron eh
@oldasrocks9121
@oldasrocks9121 Месяц назад
@@YeatzeeGuitar I use a bigger flat fishing weight for chassis stuff
@RaxFx
@RaxFx Месяц назад
@@seanblythe9109 Silly Putty does not get disturbed by a bit of heat - if it worked for Apollo 8, it works for me :)
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