+That1Valentian After the first part of his reign, where he was wise, how much wisdom did Solomon really have? Turned away from his religion, spent lavishly on temples and palaces, had more wives than Don Juan and Cassanova combined could handle! These scandals and others weakened Israel after he was gone. So the old wizard probably should have used Socrates maybe? Also would have been more in line with the Greco-Roman mythology of the others. And there were even Brand X Captain Marvels. I used to have 6 issues? (I think) of a weird android one in red with a bizarre split power. Less said about that one the better.
Skye Dragon6 DC has Greek and Roman Gods in their comic books just like Marvel, but they don’t have Norse Gods like Thor in their comics, so of course SHAZAM is an acronym for the many many various Greek Gods in the Greek pantheon of Greek mythology.
Just to get back at Marvel DC should create characters called: Private Marvel, Sergeant Marvel, Colonel Marvel, Admiral Marvel, Commander Marvel, General Marvel, President Marvel, Prince Marvel, Princess Marvel, King Marvel and Queen Marvel.
You left out (assuming you're sticking with Marine Corps/Army/Air Force ranks) Airman Marvel, Corporal Marvel, Lieutenant Marvel, and Major Marvel. But since you tossed in Commander, that also leaves Seaman Marvel, Chief Marvel, Ensign Marvel, Lieutenant Commander Marvel, Commodore Marvel (or Rear-Admiral Lower Half if you want the up to date rank) and Admiral Marvel.
Erik Larsen created a Batman ripoff character called Sgt Marvel for his creator owned Image comic Savage Dragon. Mary might be TV's Sgt. Marvel but they'd have to fight Larsen for the comics rights lol. www.writeups.org/sergeant-marvel-savage-dragon-comics/
Captain Marvel is the best Captain Marvel. I mean, sure, Captain Marvel is cool and all, but Captain Marvel is even cooler! Think of Captain Marvel, then think of Captain Marvel. Captain Marvel is SUPER stupid, but Captain Marvel is amazing, awesome, and incredible! Face it, Captain Marvel will always be the best Captain Marvel.
No man Captain Marvel is a better Captain Marvel than Captain Marvel, Captain Marvel and Captain Marvel combined! Sure, Captain Marvel is pretty cool, and Captain Marvel is extremely powerful, and Captain Marvel is iconic, but Captain Marvel is all of that and more! Simply Marvelous.
Billy will always be Captain Marvel for me, mainly due to the popular superhero parody here in the Philippines called Captain Barbell. He's this frail teenager who turns into a super-buff hero whenever he lifts his magical barbell and yells "CAPTAIN BARBELL!" It's beautiful.
Captain Marvel: A human 10 year old boy who found a wizard who gave him the abilities of six gods when he shouted the word Shazam which was the first letter of each of the gods names put together. Superman: An alien sent from a dying planet who was found by humans and raised as one who is powered by the sun. Totally the same, I can't believe Fawcett thought they could get away with that, just like Marvel thinking no one would notice that Iron Man is clearly Batman. I: *hopes people understand what I meant with this comment*
MysteriousTomJenkins I pointed out in other comments that it was a lot of little things that added up. But the biggest one probably being how Roscoe Kent Fawcett told his team to specifically create a Superman character, only make him a boy. That definitely hurt their case.
***** I did hear that and figured that would hurt it but it's still not really much of a rip off. A similar costume and similar powers but their origin, powers, alias, and stories are different. Sounds to me like they were simply mad Captain Marvel was a bigger hit. I noticed that when ever him and Superman are in any sort of conflict Superman wins easily or Cap is taken out easily, at least from instances I have seen.
It's funny because it's actually the costume, powers, alias, and stories that were the biggest factors in showing that Captain Marvel was a ripoff. The costume is the weakest to me, it's just a hero that wears red. Big deal. But the powers were pretty similar. You have to remember at this time Superman only had the power of super speed, super strength, and invulnerability. Captain Marvel basically mimicked those powers with the added bonus of him flying as well. The aliases was similar too. Both Clark Kent and Billy Batson worked in the newspaper industry. And the deciding factor in the trial made by the judge was that the stories told in Captain Marvel and Superman were too similar. In this case, it was simply a lot of little things that added up looking bad for Fawcett.
***** I guess that is true, sadly it wasn't like today where Captain Marvel can use lightning and Superman has all his crazy powers, it may have been different then.
MysteriousTomJenkins Oh yeah, I'm sure Captain Marvel could use lightning at this point in time. Just forgot about that. But Superman did not have all his crazy powers yet at the point when DC issued a cease and desist.
As I knew the DC version first as I recall, SHAZAM was an anagram for Solomon (Wisdom) Hercules(Strength), Achilles (Courage), Zeus (Dominion or power), Atlas (Stamina), and Mercury (Speed). we learned this in the old 80s cartoon intro.
Personally I hate that the Marvel movie is being titled Captain Marvel. Mostly because (like im sure plently of people), I always knew her as *Ms* Marvel. And I was one of those who actually know "Shazam" WAS Captain Marvel. So in my opinion the new movie should REALLY be called Ms Marvel, not CAPTAIN Marvel.
It seems the cost of mainstreaming or the movie format is that anything from small details to large chunks are changed or completely left out. It's irksome but I understand things need to be made marketable. - Nali
+Davrial aka Blue Mario Personally, I'm fine with her being Captain Marvel (probably because I'm still relatively new to comics), but I really wish the movies would address Mar-Vell, and have Carol Danvers as Ms. Marvel in one of their other movies before the Captain Marvel movie, and then have her take on the Captain Marvel name, and possibly do something with Kamala Khan, the current Ms. Marvel.
raggarharry I don't believe that's the case in the New 52. He has to say "Shazam" like he means to transform. But back in the day with Captain Marvel Jr., he transformed by saying "Captain Marvel" and he couldn't say his name because of it.
SpadaccinoLuciano The winning ticket is to make sure your friend is in the crowd when you take down your first enemy. Then you have him yell, "Hey look! It's SHAZAM!" Then the crowd will know Shazam's name and it will quickly proliferate through the media.
***** Not bad, not bad. Of course since Billy's 10, that kid will also be 10, and probably no one will take him seriously... but it's better than nothing!
I loved Billy Batston (I think I spelled that wrong) as Captain Marvel. Carol Danvers should stay Mrs. Marvel.... and wouldn't Billy turn into Captain Marvel everytime he said 'Shazam'? That would mean that if he ever introduced himself to another DC character.... he would turn into a kid.
Vicktoria Thomas I think it depends on the tone and volume of his voice. If its a casual way of saying "Shazam" it wont activate the spell turning him into billy and vice versa, but if he said it in a loud more serious tone like "SHAZAM!!" then the magic would turn him back and forth. Well thats how I see it as anyway.
Shazam/Captain Marvel is an awesome character IMO and I will never see or be able to take any other character of that name seriously. But to be quite honest the name Shazam is growing on me, and I've always thought Marvel was a lame name anyway.
i didn't know that they could lose the Trademark for Captain Marvel if they didn't publish comics with the name, that explain why in secret wars we had an infinity gauntlet/civil war/planet hulk storyline, and why now we have a new wolverine/illuminati/omega flight
I acquired a copy of the limb-splitting guy. To be fair, his backstory isn't too bad. A sentient alien robot, posing as a college professor (remember James Marsters in Smallville?) here to observe humanity, and he is committed to helping out where he can. There was a disturbing aspect to a story in that issue: there were 6 booby trapped pens out there and he had to retrieve all 6 before it was too late. The hands had an easy time of grabbing pens, and his head grabbed one in his teeth. I don't know his legs grabbed pens since he wore boots, but I have to keep pushing out from my mind the image of how his torso must have grabbed one.
shazam is one of my favorite heroes, and while i had always known him as captain marvel, i honestly like that it's going to marvel, even if that is entirely because of the name Marvel.
Actually Captain Marvel was originally called Captain Thunder, until Fawcett comics learned that they could not trademark the name due to it being the title of a historical-drama released by Warner Brothers nine years prior. Because of this the characters name was changed to Captain Marvelous in the second issue which the editors shortened to Captain Marvel. This also lead to DC briefly creating a character named Captain Thunder pre-Crisis in the mid-70's after they bought out Fawcett Comics so that they could publish Marvel Family characters without continuity questions. This is why the Character in Flashpoint was called Captain Thunder, the six kids also traced back to the character's original concept of a group of six each with a single divine power
I hate that DC changed the name of Capt. Marvel to Shazam. How is he supposed to introduce himself? "Nice to meet you. I'm Shazam." (Queue in lightning bolt) Boom... Now he's Billy Batson
As we know from DC Collectors Edition C-58's Superman vs. Shazam!in the courtroom battle follow-up of Supes and C.M. when it was agreed in 1972 that DC would revive The Original Captain Marvel the only legal way they could do it was under the old wizard's name of Shazam! So in conclusion now Marvel Comics Group owns the rights to the name of Captain Marvel for their variations on the different hero and if you saw in The Amalgam Publication of JLX their Captain Marvel is a blend of both the green and white hero of Captain Mar-Vell and DC's and formerly Fawcett's Captain Marvel's face.Also a green lightning bolt on the costume.But still the same green hotpants As Mar-Vell's
The true Captain Marvel for me will always be Billy Batson! ⚡️ He was the original Captain Marvel and that's why I think it's childish of Marvel Comics to "keep" the trademark just so DC don't get it..!
@IamKingOfHearts thats like if you're making an amazing job application but you're waiting to turn it in so I come and copy it and turn it in before you
Fawcett Comics should have won the Captain Marvel lawsuit. They had the Captain Marvel character and the Captain Marvel name first. That was really stupid of DC Comics for stealing the rights to the Captain Marvel character and changing Captain Marvel's name to Shazam. And that was really stupid of Marvel Comics for stealing the rights to the Captain Marvel name. DC and Marvel need to be sued. And by the way, Shazam is the name of the Wizard, not Billy Batson's alter ego. And the Shazam family is called the Marvel family. And one more thing: Billy Batson is 12 years old, not 15 years old. The reason why Billy Batson is 15 years old is because his origin was rewritten by DC Comics.
Dustin Nunn 1) Fawcett lost the lawsuit because Captain Marvel was too similar to Superman, who was created way before Captain Marvel. 2) DC had to change Captain Marvel’s name to Shazam because, by the time they purchased the rights to the character, it was already trademarked by Marvel. To be able to use the character, DC legally had to use a different name. 3) Marvel didn’t steal the Captain Marvel name. It was up for grabs at the time, before DC realized that they wanted the character. 4) Since DC cannot call Shazam by his original Captain Marvel name, technically Shazam is Billy’s alter ego. Sure, comic purists may prefer to call the Shazam family as the Marvel family but DC cannot refer to them as such for legal reasons.
@@shelinam Captain Marvel/Shazam and Superman look nothing alike because Billy Batson AKA Shazam (FKA Captain Marvel) is not a Kryptonian. Billy Batson is a full-blooded human being with the powers of Shazam the Wizard.
I love Captain Marvel for many years. She’s absolutely the best pick from Marvel to take on the mantle. The name in marvel has a meaning, a legacy. It’s not just thrown there. Also, it means a LOT more when he character who use the Captain has a meaning, a history to it and a military background. She has all of that. She is a woman of Air Force, a Colonel, somenone who made her name and her own legacy ( Ms marvel kamala lives it) and was already living the legacy as for her being Captain Marvel is being your best version, the best you can be. She’s so inspiring and has overcome many many problems like prejudice for being a woman, had powers and memory stolen, abuse, alcoholism and had even sacrificed herself to protect Earth. That’s what a hero is about. My CAPTAIN. Shazam fans should accept the mor name as it fits very well to the caharacter and learn that the hero makes the name, not the other way round.
If you want a complete history of the Captain Marvel character, Zorikh Lequidre, aka Captain Zorikh, is currently writing a coffee table book called "Captain Marvel Culture". It will cover everything you can possibly think of, including why he is the most important character in comics history. Yes, even more important than Superman.
I'm surprised you haven't gone over miracleman aka marvelman who was created in the uk because Fawcett had reprinted many comics of captain marvel. When dc comics put a stop to captain marvel, they had recreated captain marvel as Marvelman, making his powers science based instead of magic.
Mar-Vell will always be THE Captain Marvel to me. Carol Danvers is great, but I liked her as Ms Marvel. I suppose that she is the best option to step in and take up the name since Mar-Vell's death, though. Shazam is cool too, but his name is still Shazam (sorry, DC, you missed it).
Personally my favorite is Rogue whom permanently absorbed the powers, memories, and the actually psyche of Ms. Marvel (Carol Danvers). Rogue always fought with the multiple personality disorder of Ms. Marvel trying to take over Rogue's mind and body and Ms. Marvel always haunted Rogue! If you can't tell I've always been a HUGE X-Men fanboy! I was always interested in the X-Men vs. the Skrull/Kree crossover galactic battles and seeing them meet the Starjammers in space and meeting other characters like Deathbird, Guardian, etc. while fighting enemies like the Brood, etc. This would make a HUGE new opportunity for Marvel crossovers in space besides just Infinity War/Infinity Gauntlet where you could have a crossover with the Guardians of the Galaxy too! But if I had to pick my favorite actually Captain Marvel it would indeed be Ms. Marvel (Carol Danvers) herself, sorry DC and Shazam! But to me having a DC character called Captain Marvel always puzzled me even when I was a child reading comics in the late '70s up through the '90s which during that time he was called "Shazam"! I don't really know anything about the new Ms. Marvel but I'm not really feeling the new change to a Muslim Pakistani teenage girl, I have no issues with Muslims or Pakistani but I'd rather see them create a whole new stand alone character and I'd rather see Carol Danvers get separated from Rogue and resurrected as the original Ms. Marvel! To me the original Captain Marvel would be the Kree superhero from which she got her powers from!
For me, Billy is, and will always be the Captain Marvel . No character with similar name comes even close to him. It's kind of sad how it lost its name to Marvel, and now it's almost impossible to regain this name with Marvel introducing Carol Danvers as Captain Marvel in MCU. I wish they had gone with Ms Marvel, and Billy got to keep Captain Marvel.
Wow. Based on the comments, Batson is the runaway favorite with Danvers a far, far distant second. But, for me, Make Mine Mar-Vell! He was perhaps the first comic book character I ever fell in love with way back when he was a simple Kree captain in that gawdawful green and white uniform. I'm still annoyed that Starlin killed him off.
in the 70s before DC owned the rights to Captain Marvel, they created a character in Superman named Captain Thunder, who was looking for Whiz radio station , but only found the Galaxy Building in Metropolis. He and Superman fought, but saying the word Thunder turned him into a young boy named Willie Fawcett. It later turned that he was from a parallel world and had been brainwashed by an enemy to turn evil. Everyone knew who was being referenced, by the obvious clues, but it was a way for DC to have the two heroes fight (and Superman win), a few years before they won the rights to the original.
I think he should be called Captain Shazam. It’s still catchy and it means that you can differentiate between the different characters. Ms Shazam, Captain Shazam Jr, etc.
It will be interesting to see in the upcoming Shazam movie if the Wizard pretends to be Billy's friend on the streets that would always refer to Billy as "captain" O_o
what's really sad is Captain Marvel (Shazam) is a much more relatable character & has more to grow not just as a hero, but as a person. however non of this matters because the character will always be DC's punching bag. & they've done a hell of a job down grading him to make superman look good. in fact DC has done this to every character but Batman there's only one reason why Batman is still the coolest DC character of all time ( ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YpIQQeL2ZYk.htmlm )
In my opinion whoever has the character that was created first should own the rights to the name. So being DC’s Shazam aka Captain Marvel was created way before Marvel’s Captain Marvel then DC should own the rights to the name being their character was technically created first.
For Me the so called SHAZAM will always be Captain Marvel. I'm Ol School as they say. I use to watch the TV SHAZAM! series of the 70's and I got the chance to watch Adventures of Captain Marvel serial of the 1940's. I can't change that. He'll forever be Captain Marvel just like Carol Danvers will always be Ms. Marvel to me.
I used to like Carol the most as Ms. Marvel but haven't been a fan of her for a while now. Monica Rambeau seems more interesting to me now so we'll see how that goes for me.
Shazam was given powers from greek gods, he was also known as Capt Marvel, this was in the 70's for me as a child. Then came another capt marvel, danvers, sister or cousin of kara (supergirl) and seems Like 2018 movie will run with that, God I wish the Marvel and DC movies would keep the story lines correct, ruining my childhood of comics.
Reading the comments, I find I am more favorable of Carol Danvers becoming the new Captain Marvel. To be fair, I first knew her as Ms. Marvel but I love the idea of Carol Danvers being Captain Marvel because I personally like progressive movements in comics. Besides, we have a new Ms. Marvel named Kamala Khan. I never really cared for Billy Batson/Captain Marvel/Shazam in the end. Probably because I never grow up knowing the character or recognize the fact that he is literally a kid transformed into a man's body and watching the X-Men film series and the Sam Raimi _Spider-Man_ trilogy as the years pass. I cannot wait to see Marvel Studios and Brie Larson will bring to the character. I hear they will create a new origin story for Captain Marvel. We'll just have to wait and see.
Abel Yuen Wow amazing, you like a shittyass character that's never even been in the top 10 powerful heroes of all time, but don't give af about a character who outsold superman in his prime. Clearly a marvel fanboy from your comment, but its just my opinion.
Abel Yuen Wow amazing, you like a shittyass character that's never even been in the top 10 powerful heroes of all time, but don't give af about a character who outsold superman in his prime. Clearly a marvel fanboy from your comment, but its just my opinion.
I actually like Ms. Marvel's conception. A love interest, then becomes the hero's distaff counterpart, then became a main member of the Avengers to the point she's a close personal friend to Captain America and Iron Man, to taking her ex's name and owning her own comic in present day, complete with a girl so inspired by she took her old alias. Kind of a shame MCU will take a different spin of her character, considering they don't want her story to be similar with Green Lantern.
She actually wasn't called Ms. Marvel. After her famous black costume switch, she was called Warbird. After her Binary phase she return to the Ms. Marvel codename.
Frankly, Carol Danvers would have to be my favorite. I'm not too big on a kid getting into a superhero's body every once in a while. I don't wanna see kids, I wanna see adult superheroes. Had I been introduced to the character when I was young, I'm sure I'd feel differently but I wasn't.
Does DC even want the Trademark to Captain Marvel anymore? I mean they finally changed his name to Shazam, and for the longest time I thought that was the character name anyway. At least until I started REALLY getting into comic books and found out otherwise.
Oh come on, this just like arguing about who is the best Robin (its Robin). And captain marvel came two years before captain marvel so he isn't a rip off.
Captain Marvel (Shazam) has always been one of my favorites. Being a bullied kid, and seeing a character who could say one magic word and turn into a strong super hero... I was totally on board with that!
Yeah but just because they have the same name doesn't mean they're imitating. Carol Dancers and Billy Batson are very different characters. Same goes for Mar-Vell and detachable limb guy
The Big Cheese himself. The OG from Whiz Comics. I don't care much for his name now being Shazam though. How does he introduce himself? ~"Hello. I'm Shazam!" Ⱬ*BANG* "err, I mean Billy Batson. I'm here to rescue you... Shazam‽" Ⱬ*BANG* Meanwhile, In the JLA Watchtower.. Superman: Hello. Welcome to the team. What do we call you? Shazam: Sha-- Batman: NOO No No No!! Write it down! If you say that name only some of us will die!!
I'm still just trying to understand how DC even had a case against Captain Marvel, didn't seem at all like Superman to me. Was it a context thing? Like dudes with super powers in general was kind of their turf at the time?
MonarchsFactory Kind of. It was a lot of little things. From a black-haired white guy superhero who wears the color red and is super strong, fast, and durable (at this point in time, Superman only had those three powers. No heat vision or super breath or anything like that), plus mix that with the fact that Billy Batson worked selling newspapers kind of like Clark Kent working in the newspaper industry as well. It was a bunch of tiny things that just added up.
MonarchsFactory Horror/fantasy writer Manly Wade Wellman who wrote for Fawcett at the time testified in court he was instructed to copy the Superman formula for Captain Marvel. Wellman who also wrote for Wil Esiner's The Spirit, always had disdain for his comic work & considered it an easy paycheck in-between his "real" writing, which at the time was stories in the pulps.
Black Silver Other companies can use it, but they can't advertise or promote anything using that word. That's the nature of a trademark. We can all write our own comics that contain the word "superhero" inside the story, but we can't use it as the title of the story or for any other promotional purposes.
Captain Marvel (Shazam) is my all time favorite comic book character. I would love to see more about him. Anything really. Even if it is really corny or campy. I Just LOVE HIM!
Gotta be the Captain Marvel who has the wisdom of Solomon, strength of Hercules, the stamina of Atlas, the power of Zeus, the courage of Achilles and the swiftness of Mercury! Though I won't say no if Ms Marvel is in her trademark black leotard :p
