Matt, The seven "extra books" deleted by protestants in 1825, have been part of the Christian Bible since 382AD simply because they are part of the Septuagint. Such Canon is where the greatest number of OT quotes are cited from, in the NT. God bless.
@@angelvalentinmojica6967 precisely. Both the Orthodox and Catholics use it (since we were the Church who put the canon together), and the only reason Luther and others wanted to get rid of many of these books was that it would wreck their claims against the Church.
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Love this, too. Huge respect for your time, effort and competence presenting this is a really clear and neutral, but most of all super accessible and authentic way. Be blessed!
Hi! My adult son turned me on to your videos. They are a GREAT help in understanding the Bible. ADD moment : in the clip of you and the ancient rock drawing, I noticed the creature above the "centipede " looking thing. Possibly a swardfish? Hmmm a dinosaur? 😃 You have a wonderful day, many blessings .
Matt, I want to thank you for what you're doing here. I studied a lot of this in Christian Highschool and College, but have . . . lost track . . . of a lot of the details over the years. Furthermore, my wife's family is not Christian (she is, but not her parents and sister) and she has a lot of questions that you've helped answer. You've also helped me to direct my own study and given me names and details to use to begin studying. Thank you so much.
I'm glad you made this. This is a way to respectfully show on what we Protestants, Catholics and Orthodox agree on and don't agree on. Especially to my friends who aren't as knowledgeable on the Bible as they'd like to be.
I agree, for the same reason I respect Wayne Grudem's _"Systematic Theology"._ I may not agree with his final conclusions, but he seems to lay out the alternatives in a *FAIR* manner.
I have more recent translations for comparison, but as a Catholic, I really enjoy reading the Douay-Rheims Bible even though it is from the Latin Vulgate, so a translation of a translation, but I love how it comes from the work of St Jerome who would have had access to records we no longer have and would have had a more practical knowledge of ancient Hebrew and ancient Greek than we do today. I also think it is cool because Latin translates into English much more easily and clearly than Greek or Hebrew does. So, in many cases where the Greek or Hebrew can be translated into English in multiple ways, the Latin to English translation can be less ambiguous. So, if we trust that St Jerome had access to native speakers and contemporary sources that eliminated the ambiguity of certain Greek and Hebrew words and phrases then it can give us some insight into how those phrases were actually understood and which way they were meant to be translated. Just my personal opinion, keep in mind that I am a Catholic and at the Council of Trent I believe my Church declared that the Vulgate, in particular, had been protected from error. So, if I wasn't Catholic and didn't believe that the Church was guided by the Holy Spirit I might be a lot more critical and have a different set of assumptions. However, I think in this case reason, regarding St Jerome's unique time in history much closer to the time and place that Christ lived in than us, and the way languages work regarding Latin being a disambiguating filter between ancient Greek/Hebrew and English, combined with my own faith in the what I believe happened at the Council of Trent, really helps me feel at eas about reading what some might call "the Catholic King James Version"(although I read the 1899 edition which is more like "the Catholic NKJV"). That being said I do read multiple translations of the Bible. My next two favorites include the Orthodox Study Bible and the Revised Standard Version-Catholic Edition. As an Eastern Catholic, I use the OSB because the footnotes have a lot of theology from the Eastern Church Fathers. The OSB uses the NKJV for the New Testament and has a translation of the Greek Septuagint for the Old Testament. The Revised Standard Version I use is actually the Second Catholic Edition and is known as the Ignatius Bible, it comes from a more modern translation of the original Greek and Hebrew, and was the first English Bible translation in history to utilize the Dead Sea Scrolls. In addition to the three I've mentioned, I have also heard and read the Catholic New American Bible(translated from Greek and Hebrew sources around 1970) my whole life as this is the standard version authorized for readings during services at the majority of Catholic churches in the United States, and although it is not my favorite translation I still read it occasionally for balance. Since my family was historically Southern Baptist, Methodist, and Seventh-Day Adventist, I even have some old King James family Bibles that I read some times that are pretty cool.
You got to remember Jerome knew the apocrypha wasn't canon. Jerome talked to those in Israel, and he learned they didn't keep them in the temple. Additionally, it's clear the OT of the NT is the tanhnak, which Jesus called the canon atleaet twice in the NT, and that doesn't have the apocryphal text.
I have never heard a good argument for taking the “Apocrypha“ out of the cannon. Growing up I sounded ignorant telling people The Catholics added books to the Bible. Thank God I grew up and learned how to study.
The Apocrypha are books written in Greek that were considered scripture in New Testament times. In the Middle Ages, the rabbis decided that Hebrew was the divine language and Greek language material was purged from the cannon.
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I love the long form content. I recognize that most people probably would prefer it to be shorter but all of the information you presented is invaluable and incredibly helpful. I've never taken the time to understand the origins or history of the Bible itself and this type of content makes it seem very approachable. Thank you, Matt!
I like the longer videos. I spend most of my 8-hour work day listening to RU-vid content like this, it's helpful when I don't have to pull my phone out very often
Clear and compassionate. I'm glad you aren't dismissive of other traditions. As a semi-evangelical right now this makes me want to study up on apocrypha
Thanks for being pretty fair with the history/the differences. I would point out three important things: 1. While the Threefold Structure of the Hebrew Canon was talked about around when you had mentioned (earliest reference comes from the intro attached to Sirach [written by the author, Yeshua ben Sira's grandson--who called them the Law, the Prophets, and "the Others"]), it was fuzzy as to which books belonged to the different collections. As you mentioned, the Samaritans only accepted the Law, but then you also have groups like the Saducees who regarded only the Law as Scripture (and then disputing with other groups about doctrines seeming to be only found in the Prophets/Writings--like the Resurrection. In the scene where Jesus is confronted by the Saducees about the situation from the Book of Tobit [one woman, married to seven husbands who died before children], He argues for the Resurrection only with the books that they actually held, the Law, rather than something like Daniel [or just straight defending Tobit], Matt. 22) Or the Essenes/the Qumran Community--more than just the current Hebrew Canon, but with Tobit, Sirach, the LXX Jeremiah [shorter Hebrew version which in Greek is combined with Lamentations, Baruch, and the Letter of Jeremiah], and apparently not accepting Esther. Or looking at the debates about the canon in the Mishnah and the Talmud--there were questions about Esther, Song of Songs, and Sirach all the way into the 300s/400s AD among the Jews (with Sirach being quoted as Scripture several times in the Talmud). The way Jesus described it was telling "The Law, the Prophets, and the Psalms"--it was not yet a set in stone collection of writings (more than just Psalms, but it still wasn't "We know exactly which XYZ books 'the Writings' refer to") 2. The Council of Jamnia was posited by a scholar in the 1870s, but scholars since the 1960s looking at the evidence say that it's almost impossible for it to have actually happened. The Jewish Canon was actually finalized around the same time as the Church was finalizing its OT--late 300s early 400s (specifically Pope St. Innocent I's letter in answer to the Bishop of Toulouse asking a question about St. Jerome's rejection of the deuteros, in 411) 3. It is a little unclear which Zechariah Jesus is referring to in the Abel to Zechariah reference. In Matthew, he is called "Zechariah son of Barachiah" (23.35) The Zechariah in 2 Chronicles 24 is called "Zechariah son of Yehodiah." The Zachariah Jesus mentioned may have been the author of the Book of Zechariah (son of Berechiah son of Iddo) or (as one late first century tradition had it) Zechariah the Father of John the Baptist--but He specifically cannot be referencing the Zechariah in 2 Chronicles.
@@ernestrobinson8441 Matthew 23.35 (RSV): from the blood of innocent Abel to the blood of Zechariah the son of Barachiah, whom you murdered between the sanctuary and the altar. 2 Chronicles 24:20-22 (RSV): Then the Spirit of God took possession of Zechariah the son of Jehoiada the priest; and he stood above the people, and said to them, “Thus says God, ‘Why do you transgress the commandments of the Lord, so that you cannot prosper? Because you have forsaken the Lord, he has forsaken you.’ ” But they conspired against him, and by command of the king they stoned him with stones in the court of the house of the Lord. Thus Joash the king did not remember the kindness which Jehoiada, Zechariah’s father, had shown him, but killed his son. And when he was dying, he said, “May the Lord see and avenge!” The Zechariah Jesus mentions is the son of Barachiah. The Zechariah in Chronicles is the son of Yehodiah. In order to say that they are referring to the same person, you have to also be saying either: 1. Jesus, the Incarnate God, and Author of the Scriptures made a mistake when referencing the story, 2. Matthew, inspired by the Holy Spirit made a mistake by adding an incorrect clarifying identification to Zechariah's name, or 3. That the inspired author of Chronicles identified Zechariah incorrectly. If you really need this figure to be the same as the one in Chronicles, then either Jesus/Matthew is wrong or Chronicles is wrong. I personally would rather follow the simpler option (two different names for two different people), which doesn't make the Bible contradict itself.
@@gideonjudges7 i though that Zaharia is actually the father of saint john the baptist. At least orthodox think that way. According to our holy (oral) tradition he was killed after he refused to tell where his son is hiding after herod the great send soldiers for baby Christ to be killed.
@@maligjokica right, that is one of the ancient traditions (I know it is recorded both in the Protoevangelium of James and by Origen [who rejected the Protoevangelium, so the places where he agreed with it, like the identity of Zechariah or the names of Mary's parents, are likely from an earlier tradition than either of them]) But whether it was Zechariah father of John the Baptist, Zechariah the Prophet, or even just another contemporary Zechariah with whom the audience of Jesus would have been familiar, we know for certain that it is not the Zechariah in Chronicles.
Anthony Fisher Is it possible that both Jesus and Chronicles could be talking about the same Zachariah; but, using different names he had? Was it ever Jewish tradition that someone would be called the son of his father and/or grandfather? Or that one might have been the name of his biological father and the other his adopted father? I'm not trying to perform mental gymnastics; I'm just curious.
These videos are such a blessing. I was raised in a Christian home and went to Christian school and even Christian college so I already know (or have known at one point) most of this information but the reminder and the format is so interesting and entertaining. Thanks so much for your hard work. It’s almost like taking a college class again! =]
This is because what is taught in most of America is Protestantism, not authentic Christianity, as it's known in Europe, Africa and the Middle East. There's a wealth of knowledge that the so-called Reformers threw out. Now, with people like Matt, who comes with the spirit of humility and wanting to learn, he is helping is fellow co-religionists discover things that were lost in the West, but which we in Orthodoxy (Eastern, Oriental and Assyrian) never quite lost.
As a Catholic, I really enjoy watching your videos. Very informative and very scientific. I mean, when we are talking like this, we show the facts as facts and we consider that some people may not agree with us because they come from different backgrount. Thanks, Mat. I hope to see more videos like this one.
Really good video, very clear. Love the editing, your use of images and overlays are always helpful. Please thank your kids from us (because I know you would have already thanked them from you) for a stellar job with their books and scrolls.
I am speaking as a Catholic. One thing which I have heard discussed about the New Testament is the claim that NT authors used the Septuagint as their reference source when discussing OT prophesy. One thing I would also like to give you congrats on. Clearly you have your own opinions about the Deuteron-Canon/ Apocrypha. Your level of disagreement, yet respecting Catholic beliefs, is great appreciated. This just increases my respect for you. I look forward to your further videos.
One thing I never understood is why us Christians fight so much when all we disagree on doesn't really matter in the long run. We know from biblical teaching that Jesus asks us one question "who do you say I AM?" if we agree on that one answer everything we don't agree on shouldn't matter.
@@jokermann100 We must be able to discern between true fighting and debating/ discussing. Fighting is about one aggressively tearing anther down in order to feel superior. Debating/ discussing is about challenging each other. A certain amount of adversarial behavior is good. It challenges us to refine our thoughts in order to seek the truth. The problem is when it leads to pride. In pride we are blinded to our own faults and the possibility that the other may have (at the very least in part) a valid point.
30:44 "In terms of direct quotation"?? If we use this argument we would have to leave outside of the Bible these books as well: Judges Ruth Ezra Esther Ecclesiastes Song of Solomon Lamentations Obadiah Jonah Zephaniah 16:12 You also mentioned Jesus "fixing" the OT canon by virtue of mentioning the Martyrdom of Zachariah which took place place around 540 B.C. (implying that he was the last OT inspired prophet, thus rejecting the Deuterocanonical books ). Jesus himself tells us that the period of the OT prophets reaches until John the Baptist around 30 A.D. "The law and the prophets were UNTIL John" (Lk. 16: 16). Notice how Jesus applies the term "Law and Prophets" not until Zachariah (540 B.C.) but until John the Baptist (30 A.D.). **NOTE: Deuterocanonical wouldn't be an extra 4th category (as displayed on screen) because they were part of the Wisdom, Poetic, and Historical literature which in turn is part of the traditional tripartite (sometimes bipartite i.e. Lk 16: 16) Jewish term** I think your analysis reflects more than the Old Testament (for Christians), the Hebrew Bible (for Jews), the TANAKH (Masoretic Text) which came into light around the IX century. Keep in mind that the "Hebrew Bible" (39 books) utilized by Rabbinic Judaism is not what the Jews in Jesus' times utilized but the Masoretic Text (around the 900's A.D.) . The 7 books rejected by Protestantism always were part of the Christian Bible, even St. Jerome who after spending some time with the Rabbinic school leaders in Palestine expressed doubts about them, nevertheless accepted the final decision of the Church (as opposed to the Rabbinical views). Finally, even in the Talmud the book of Wisdom is quoted as Scripture.
As far as Luke 16:16 goes, I'd say Jesus is talking more about the spiritual status quo up to John the Baptist's public appearance. Until then, the Law and the Prophets of the Old Testament were the primary extension of Gods plan for mankind. John came as the voice in the desert that Isaiah prophesied about, announcing a change in the way Gods kingdom manifests itself on Earth. Until John there was the Law and the Prophets; after John there was Jesus.
The point is that these were Prophets killed; Jesus says, because the Hebrew/ Jewish people didn't like the message! John is killed by someone who was in the eyes of the Jews of that time, an outsider!
Big difference between Sirach and Enoch. Sirach was accepted by the Early Church Fathers and by all Christians from the Synod of Rome in 381 until the Protestant Revolt in the 1500s. Enoch is not widely accepted and is only really accepted by the Ethiopians, who are a small group of worldwide Christianity.
@@jmjaquinas7298 Does that matter? If it's food for thought that helps you develop your thinking about religion, I'd call that a good tree bearing good fruit.
Jesse Campbell The reason I mention both in the same breath is that both stem from incredibly old traditions with rich histories which I would love to see explored in more depth here. Furthermore, you'd be surprised at the strength of the connections between the Tewahedo Church and early Protestantism despite their opposite approaches to breadth of canon, and it would be really interesting to see that discussed here.
@@ConvincingPeople Plus, 1 Enoch is making a tremendous comeback in popularity and study among Western Christians with, the apocalyptic times, and all. Most of Christianity is sleeping on the Tewahedo much to their own loss.
I really love how respectful you are with regards to Catholic and Protestant differences. I feel too often there is too much disrespect on both sides, even to the extant that some people don’t consider the opposite side to be Christian! I found this channel a couple months ago and it’s really helped me. God bless, and keep doing such great work!
Connor Taylor I agree with your comment mostly except when you seem to imply there’s more than one way to salvation... But yeah, the disrespect is a totally downer
Thomas Pop I personally believe that the Protestant churches, Catholic Church and Orthodox Church are all “Christian”, but the three branches practice their faith in different ways. I can’t say who’s views are the most true (I’ve got my own biases), but I believe that all who have true faith in Christ Jesus will be saved. I’ll let him decide who’s the wheat and who’s the chaff Lol!
@@thepunkrockchristian I mostly agree :-) I definitely believe there are people who call themselves Catholic that are saved, and people who call themselves Christian that are not saved. I think what it comes down to are the core doctrines and teachings, and I have to say that I don't believe that Catholicism teaches the true gospel. They add all kinds of extra things to Salvation, all kinds of extra weird rituals that scripture does not tell us to do. There are saved Catholics, but Catholicism itself teaches a false gospel in my opinion.
Thanks for another very informative video! Personally I have only read 1st Book of Enoch and The Book of Maccabees (mainly because there is so much content in both that I feel I have to re-read passages again and again to really absorb all of it) but both helps you to thoroughly appreciate what's going on in the mind of an ancient Hebrew. Anyone who has really dug into the Bible can definitely grasp both books. The more I read and understand what the Holy Spirit is showing me the more amazed I am of the Bible. Part of that is understanding the Ancient Far East Hebrew. Definitely feel like your videos and content deserve more than 10 mins!
Great content! Thanks for your easy to follow lessons. I’ve been binge watching your channel since I discovered it. I loved the craft time too. Your children are precious!
St Jerome translated the books from Hebrew & Greek into Latin, the language of the aRoman Church. Then carefully copied by educated monks & other clergy
Hey man, just wanted to say that the visuals and stories help a lot. The visuals in this video as well as another video I watched where your kids went to visit the fruity pebbles village. Those really helped understand the points you were making. Also, I really appreciate your attempt to look into things. As a Christian I often find myself discouraged by seeing how quickly other Christians (even leaders) are willing to accept a story or "fact" without checking it at all. We need more Christians to stop when they hear facts they agree with and think to themselves "but is that really true?" We certainly do that we things we don't agree with. I love the references, the explanations of where information is from so people can look it up, it's very nice.
It's interesting that I knew exactly what you were doing @ 5:58. I have recently gone over 2 Kings and remember that the king tore his clothes upon hearing the book read.
Thanks for the video! I've been working on this for an undergraduate Honors Thesis on this for 9 months and I STILL feel like there are a million more things to learn about! Very enriching things for the believer to understand!
A good friend of mine in the Navy was a Protestant Minister/Navy Chaplain. He told me that the Apocrypha was left out of the Protestant Bible since the only remaining translations at the time were Greek and the Jews at the time didn't recognize Greek translations. The military used to be a very ecumenical place as the chaplains job was to support each person's religious beliefs even if they were of a different faith. They really took effort to understand other theology. The Orthodox Church actually has a few more Apocrypha books than the Catholic Bible. They are very important, especially Maccabees as their revolt was a key event. Old Testament scripture is ancient and that is probably the real reason for the uncertainty of which books to use. This is a good video. The Apocrypha is good to read and acknowledge the points in this video.
I'm so very happy to have found this channel! Ahhhhh snap! I'm digging into some research and I'm so happy with my findings :) Towards the end of the video, you said that Jude mentions "the book of Enoch". Would you mind explaining which verse that is and what version of the book of Enoch might it have been?
Thanks for putting this together. I like your little buckets. If you haven't already, I would check out Gary Michuta's books "Why Catholic Bible's are Bigger" and "The Case for the Deuterocanon" if you want a thorough treatment of the Catholic perspective. It is incredibly well researched. His shorter book, "15 Myths, Mistakes, and Misrepresentations about the Deuterocanon" might be a tempting start as it is shorter but really it is a supplement for the other two.
So the protestants basically took the Masoretic texts as canon thinking it's canon... but failed to understand that this version was the one the Jews decided to change after the coming of Christ. Whereas the Septuagint was what the Jews originally used BEFORE the coming of Christ. From a Former protestant.
@@progmanmike So you prefer to use a copy of which the Jews revised after Christ's first coming? Okay LOL It's Deuterocanonical* not apocryphal. Oh guess what, protestants never existed when the Church was compiling the Scriptures. LOL
@@progmanmike sir I think you should read wisdom chapter 2 Let us therefore lie in wait for the just, because he is not for our turn, and he is contrary to our doings, and upbraideth us with transgressions of the law, and divulgeth against us the sins of our way of life. He boasteth that he hath the knowledge of God, and calleth himself the son of God. He is become a censurer of our thoughts. He is grievous unto us, even to behold: for his life is not like other men's, and his ways are very different. We are esteemed by him as triflers, and he abstaineth from our ways as from filthiness, and he preferreth the latter end of the just, and glorieth that he hath God for his father. Let us see then if his words be true, and let us prove what shall happen to him, and we shall know what his end shall be. For if he be the true son of God, he will defend him, and will deliver him from the hands of his enemies. Let us examine him by outrages and tortures, that we may know his meekness and try his patience. Let us condemn him to a most shameful death: for there shall be respect had unto him by his words. Wisdom 2:12-20 Sounds like a prophesy to me. Would you agree?
Андрей Карлович on a different note, your username is interesting me. Are you a Russian who types perfect American English or an American who has a cool looking Russian username?
@@noahwilhelm9201 I am not American and I do not type American English or speak American English, I type English (British). I'm from Singapore, and this is my actual name. Karlovich is my patronymic. St Andreas the First Called is my Patron Saint, hence "Andrey". I speak English, Russian and Mandarin Chinese.
Андрей Карлович cool! I assumed it was American English due to the LOLs, which I didn’t know it was a thing beyond the US. But that’s awesome that you speak all of those languages!
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Came here from No Dumb Questions, i strongly agree with Destin that you are really good with words. I like to listen to your Voice/sentences. Interesting videos! Keep on, i am excited for history nuggets, when will it come out? :D
Very very well done. Hopefully, things like this video and the effort behind it will eventually bring us all together. From your Orthodox brother in Christ.
Hey Matt, just wanted to let you know that I really appreciate your descriptive (rather than prescriptive) style of talking about the Bible and religion in general. It's very friendly to people like me, which is to say atheists/agnostics interested in the historical, cultural, and theological questions about Christianity. Good work.
Hey Matt, I'd like to pitch a video topic at you for you to do. There are tons and tons and tons of videos and websites explaining HOW the New Testament came to be. I think even the unlearned have a basic understanding that a bunch of men came together and decided what books belong into the New Testament. However, there seems to be no interest to find out WHY a bunch of men came together in the first place to make that determination. What was going on in the 4th century that prompted these men to come together to finally take a stand after so many centuries and decide the rule (canon) that everyone should follow? And who gave them that authority to make such a declaration? I'm sure you'll find that answer very interesting. Take care! Love the show! Marky D. "In the house"
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Just wanted to say thank you for these Bible study videos, they are helping me very much with my understanding of Christendom and the many questions that were persistently holding me back. Seriously, many thanks!
While the early Christians disagreed on which books of the 'apocrypha' were canon, they pretty much all included some of those books. The variations could just be due to these being more obscure writings of which fewer copies existed.
Hey, Matt--- Fantastic job on this edition of the 35-min. Bible hour. 😊 I wanted to thank you for clearing up a question I've always had about Jesus referring to Zechariah. I was not aware that by the time of Jesus, Chronicles were written last-- that really explains a lot. Appreciate you man! Bless you!
Just commenting to say I appreciate this channel and the work you do bro, never thought I'd be as interested in the bible historically as I am now. (After finding this channel of course)
Also the Council of Jamnia is widely regarded as a myth, even most Protestant historical scholars will agree now that people were trying to use it as an anchor to give credibility to a Protestant OT. But even if Jamnia did happen a Christian has to ask themselves an important question: What authority do Jewish Scholars living in the 1st century, who are not believers in Christ, have over Christian Churches? The answer of course is none.
@@sheldonsawyer4782I'm not sure what your point is. There's a difference between Messianic Jews of the modern era and Jews of the 1st century who didn't believe in Christ.
I’ve been really impressed with the thoughtfulness and kindness of your videos. I just subscribed today after about a week of hemming and Hawing over your videos, which all of them I’m super impressed with, if not fully agreeing on all your conclusions. I stumbled upon your ‘why certain books were left out of the bible’ vid first. I didn’t agree and still do not with your analysis. But as I kept watching your other vids with diverse topics I later came to realize you have a super fair and loving perspective to which you present really important information about the Holy Bible, a book which I deeply love and have immense gratitude for, yet not the only holy book on the planet I admire and revere. You have inspired me to reconnect with my Christian faith, and although we might have differences in the nuance of our beliefs it really doesn’t matter when what you’re doing is being a beacon of light and love, shining for God, and allowing Gods infinite mercy to flow through you. Thanks for being here. You’re doing great work.
If you have good content the length of the video does not matter. I think this subject rated a longer video like the one you provided. Thanks for what you are doing.
Loads of fun! Always love watching your content!!! One thing I think you did not mention: Jerome conceded that the *Church* regarded the deuterocanon (the blue ones) as legitimate/authentic/authoritative scripture, despite having his own personal doubts. That one man (a Catholic saint) should feel uncertain about some of the books he was translating, does render them spiritually invalid -- and he, the saint-to-be, knew this already. He is quoted somewhere as saying (essentially) 'If they are good enough for the Church, then they are good enough for me.'
It would have been a lot easier if you’d just said: “the Roman Catholic Bishops under the guidance of the Holy Spirit met at the council of Carthage and discussed the cannon. The Bible was then rolled out as an official cannon on August 28, 397 AD. The Catholic Bishops then reaffirmed the Bible and its original and it’s 73 ORIGINAL books that were tampered with by Martin Luther (and his followers) after the reformation. Today Protestants are missing 7 Old Testament books due to Martin Luther’s heretical beliefs of sacred scriptures.” See easy!
Matt, as always, you do a wonderful job. Truly a blessing to watch and to know that others watched. Well done. I wanted to point out another reference to the biblically endorsed (or at the least, incorporated) extra-biblical text of 1 Enoch. You did well to point out Jude's reference, but 2 Peter also gives it a head nod (2Pet 2:4). This passage, in particular, makes me wonder if they (or Peter at least) believed its contents since he references it alongside other events considered truthful. Till that Day... God bless you.
Those who say that the OT canon wasn't established until the 1st century are ignoring Sirach, written in the 160's BC, which makes reference to the three-fold complete canon of the OT several times: "the Law, the Prophets, and the Writings". Plus, Jesus and the Sanhedrin had many disagreements, but one thing they were never divided over was the canon of scripture.
Hi Matt, love your series. I've requested this on another video's comment section, but can you do a video on the Messianic Jews? In a way they're really "new" to the Christian faith, but very ancient at the same time. Thanks for your work here and God bless!
The _"Ten Minute Bible Hour"_ seems to be the _"Grape Nuts"_ 🍇 🥜 of RU-vid channels -- containing *NEITHER* grapes nor nuts. _TMBH_ seems to be neither 10 minutes nor an hour. (I borrowed the _"Grape Nuts"_ metaphor from the late Dr. Walter Martin who used it to describe _"Christian" "Science".)_ That said, the _"Bible"_ part is correct and I enjoy your content! 😀
Awesome video Matt! Would love to see a video regarding the symmetry between OT and NT. A common argument opponents of Christianity use it the “difference” between God’s nature in OT v NT.
It's not so much a symmetry, but typology. The Old Covenent events were just types and shadows of the spiritual reality that was to come in the New Covenant age. St.Paul sums it up in this verse: "However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural, and afterward the spiritual", I Corinthians 15: 46.
I love a number of aspects of this presentation, such as (1) its content is well researched and very informative, i.e., scholarship garbed in plain clothes of the man on the street, (2) its language and manner of presentation, i.e., the presenter's use of visual aids and efforts to simplify even some technical terms are evident that God has given him the gift of teaching, and (3) its honesty about the facts of history and courtesy towards the audience naturally disarms one who may have come with some bias or some degree of defensiveness (did I hear your name right as "Matt" at the beginning of the video?). Thanks for the commendable presentation! I plan to use it with my future Home Bible Studies. I wonder how I could obtain a CD of it.
Another great video. Everytime I was thinking you were about to glaze over a historical fact you spoke on it and it's a great point how all Christians share a large majority in common when it comes to the Bible and why. I would offer 1 missing connection, the word "authority". I tie this to St Jerome who disagreed with the 7 books of the "apocrypha/deuterocannocical". You stated on several occasions on how Jewish leaders (authority) came together to sort things out historically and Cannon prevailed through consensus. Then you state the same thing happened in the Christian tradition which St Jerome himself later submitted to, despite his personal opinion. Biblically speaking Jesus also establishes this authority as David did in (Matt 16:18/Isiah 22:22). Once we establish who that authority is in these modern times, since Jesus promised nothing would prevail against it, we quickly see a more clear picture of why 1 Christian understanding has more books verses another. In the end it is a minor detail, since the most important thing we share is the Gospels and New testament, but in pursuing One universal Christian family as Jesus calls us to be, I'm drawn back to its original Greek term by Ignatius of Antioch (107AD) katholikos.......we are told by this disciple of John we are to be 1 universal body, and to follow that authority, same as Jesus' hope in the garden of Gethsemane. May his intercession be with us all as his feast day approaches Oct 17.
Regarding Deuteronomy 34. As Jews we have two possible explanations as to who wrote it. Both hold that the entire Pentateuch was dictated to Moses, by G-d, from beginning to end. One explanation was that Gd dictates the last chapter to Moses, who in turn dictated as Joshua wrote. The second is that Gd dictated that chapter to Moses and commanded him to write it down.
Another great video, Matt! Only wish instead of Apocrypha, you would have used the term "deteurocanonical" [ = "of secondary importance, not on the same level as the other OT books"] to put them in proper context. Apocrypha seems like a pejorative Protestants use for "those books we reject " without understanding anything more about them. The only new doctrine I can find in these books is "prayers for the dead", but that's a topic for another video!
This actually explains the Bible reading plan I'm in the midst of. It is following the traditional Hebrew model, and now I understand why 1 and 2 Chronicles is the last book before hitting the New Testament.
Ticia M Much better to break the Chronicles off like that when you're bulk reading the Bible. Imagine reading 1 and 2 Samuel, 1 and 2 Kings, and then right after, reading 1 and 2 Chronicles, ohhh boy…
From Wikipedia: "According to the Talmud, much of the Tanakh [Old Testament] was compiled by the men of the Great Assembly (Anshei K'nesset HaGedolah), a task completed in 450 BCE, and it has remained unchanged ever since."... There is a footnote that cites Talmud tractate Bava Batra 14b-15a I don't understand why Christians look to Josephus and Philo for questions like this but they almost never look at Jewish sources such as the Talmud or Rashi. It seems that many Christian scholars are simply unaware that there are Jewish sources
Nice catch! They are enthusiastic participants, and had just returned home from awards night after a good year of progress learning about and memorizing parts of the Bible.
Check out the Electric universe or thunderbolts project, Leak project and the Diehold foundation on how ancient Hebrew was formed Moses ten code system.
I remember the first time I read Chronicles I thought, Why are they repeating Kings? LOL It came to me later like reading the four Gospels. I thought the same thing about the Gospels until I got to Luke. I was new to it all and NO ONE DISCIPLED ME!!! Think about it, 50 years later it hasn't changed much. The old Puritan pastor would go and disciple his flock, especially new converts. Who does that now?
Oh cool, I can see you are adding further layers of nuance to what you were saying in your previous apocrypha video. Also, I very much like your review of mentions the Old Testament canon structure/formation in the bible and other historical sources, it's very well set out. A few bits of further nuance you might want to include if you feel like doing another video (you don't need to though, what you've done so far is plenty): -I'd be interested hearing your take on the possible Messianic prophecy in the Wisdom of Solomon which I'm sure you've heard lots of Catholics telling you about by now. -Personally, I don't think we should lump the Daniel and Esther additions to the issue of canonicity. That question is about what's in the books, not what books are authoritative. -I don't know when the sub-sections of the three buckets appeared (former and latter major prophets+minor prophets for The Prophets; poetry + the five megillot + other writings for The Writings) but I think it might be worth exploring those sub-sections; and in particular why the five megillot are also not quoted directly in the New Testament, except Ruth as part of genealogies.
