Who's Paying for THIS?? (Nissan Altima No-Throttle P0222/P0605) 

FS1 has the WORST customer service of any supplier I have dealt with. They have the audacity to charge you to diagnose their own defective ECU's! Been to this rodeo twice with these clowns, never again. Anyone up for a class action??

These same issues were a contributing factor in my retirement from the 12volt industry. It is getting increasingly more difficult to find products that don't suck!

I ordered a 3 ECMs from FS1. 1 for a Jeep and it was junk. 1 for a Ram, it set a different code than the original ECM and after contacting FS1, they would only send me another ECM after I sent back the one I purchased from them and if they determined that it was faulty they would send me a replacement. So to keep my customer from waiting 4 weeks for another ECM, I just ordered another ECM to get them on the road faster. It was also junk, and when they received the first one I sent back they decided a store credit was good enough. I will NEVER order anything from FS1.. NEVER! The absolute worst company I’ve had the displeasure of trying to work with.

Maybe the flagship One ECM should have been programmed as "new" instead of used?

Got 3 bad ecms in a row from flagship one. They kept programming the ecm for a vehicle with an automatic even though the vehicle was a manual. I tried to explain this to them multiple times. Will never use them again.

Long time watcher, first time commenter. I came across your channel while watching scanner Danner years ago. I have learned so much from SMA, SD, and PHAD. for me, automotive repair/diagnostics is a hobby. I have worked in the healthcare field for nearly a decade and automotive repair/diagnostics IS my vacation from life. I love how you take on different projects and don't limit yourself to just cars and trucks. you put the information out there for anyone and everyone to learn. I have no intention of making a career out of automotive diagnostics and can't justify a "proper" education for it, but I love to learn about it. Thank you for the time that you put into the content you provide.

Seeing these videos makes me appreciate the simplicity of my 1972 Ford LTD Country Squire more and more, with zero computers on board, and getting inexpensive key cuts at a hardware store.

Because Don was able to fix it with an eBay unit makes you wonder what bargain bin fs1 is getting there’s from!

Sounds like the original mechanic knew what he was doing after all.

I've watched enough videos to know that Flagship 1 has like a 50% chance of the ECU working 🤣🤣

As soon as you said "Flagship one" I said "uh, oh....." How do they stay in business????

He needs a Wilbert's U-Pull-It of Bath, not a sponsor.

Reminds me of trying to load transmission module software on a Nissan pathfinder. There was no way to “get” the actual software with the Thinktools Pro. It kept telling me to scan the trans barcode, but it wouldn’t ever read the barcode. Had to pay the dealer $150 bucks. Next time I will SAVE the trans file to the ThinktoolsPro first ! Whoops!

It's situations like this that caused my mechanic to put up a sign saying we will not install customer supplied parts.

Not that I would ever order an ECM or another controller but if I ever had to I know what company NOT to order from, FS1 seems to have a real problem when it comes to ensuring quality of stuff they send out.

Wow. Just wow. Thanks for sharing your misadventure!

Really appreciate it ! The quality coaching you provide Ivan is sooo comprehensive that despite only taking in the audio ; (life gets busy sometimes) , it’s abundantly rich learning that occurs … simply from what it is you are SAYING ! Honestly, I can’t tell you how valuable that is !! Ties me over until I can get around to laying eyes on the video to devour the and digest the whole enchilada !! 🙌🏼

Thanks for a new informative video Ivan, best wishes from the U.K 🇬🇧

I almost got a flagship for the old Camry, but decided to spend a little more for the OEM . Think I made a good decision. Nice work Ivan. 👍👍🇺🇸

you do amazing work man that sucks that the computer was not good out of the box i hope that money was returned and time was compensated properly we all know it never is

Good job, Ivan. A good scanning tool is a must have for professionals like you. Now I know, when I talk to a mechanic, maybe the best question to ask is: Sir, may I take a peek to your scanning tool before I leave my car here?

RU-vid knew todays video location,today i just got recomanded the last time you where at his place 😂

Having the right scan tool / computer to communicate to many modern manufacturers/brands is becoming an art form in itself. Not only do you have to know diagnostics, you have to know what scanner brand can program said car. This is why what Ivan does is even more impressive.

Great to see you so close by my place !! Donald Dwadziescia Cztery !

Good luck on flag shit one. Im waiting on my 3rd ecm 3 months in. Original ecm has a interment #7 injector driver. Their first ecm sent bad prom, second ecm missing pins on a connect. Another rma to fill out and wait anothe month ya! Love your vids.

Amazing that you can work thru any of the scanners. The instructions and explanations are so cryptic.....

Awesome video Ivan!!!!

Great video Ivan as always. I think that FS1 should cover this cost after all it was there junk computer that was the problem. Who knows the important thing is the customers car is back on the road.

Nice work guys, amazing "FS1" is still in business..

Flagship should pay for your time and Don too since you needed Messed with the ecm but had no luck! At least ebay came through lol. Nice video Ivan!!

3rd! Love a good Pine Hollow Video!

Here in AUS NSW Igo to the auto dismantlers in person & get my parts & I have never had any problem(I have bought an ECM with the key & barrel ) which is most likely why I have never hac a go-back Cheers Ivan I kinda guessed that the used ECM was garbage.

Great work.

Ahhh, i remember having a similar issue with an ecm rebuild shop called SIA electronics in Illinois. Let's just say i got my money back, the hard way. That was years ago. Condition was also crank no start

Uhg, not a good deal. Don't know what to say except "Thanks for Sharing!'

Really great videos as always Ivan. Question for you Ivan. Will the Think Pro 2 tool scanner program GM remotes and TPM sensors?

Well, I was wrong. I figured it was a faulty steering lock assembly, which may have been recalled on this vehicle. I had a 2008 3.5SE that had to be towed in for that and was later recalled.

Always a hit or miss with FS1. Experienced that twice with them.

Great work as usual BRO👍🏻 Nissan's are always tricky to diag, they're designed that way like Europeans😅 Thanks for sharing, Stay Safe😍

Change CVT fluid every 30-40k, even through dipstick suck out works well.

Just returned a new 2 stroke ignition module - NG I'm afraid to order another one. Thanks.

I had to send one back 2 times but they made it right and it ended working fine, customer service wasn’t that bad but they don’t always answer

Hey Ivan... Since I started using the factory software in my PC and J-box (Consult for Nissan, TechStream for Toyota, and Tech-2 for GM) I've had FAR fewer issues with my reprograming of ECMs, TCMs, and body modules. I think Consult would have bitched about the new ECU from the get-go and saved you some time. Then, again, I was using my Snap-On Verus/Zues for programming, which was usually a cluster f*** so I guess anything was better than what I was using.

For whatever reason Autel scanners don't do well with Nissan/Infiniti immobilizers. My MS908 bricked the BCM while trying to add a key on a G37. Had to replace the BCM and buy a Thinktool ProS to register the keys.

Nissan the Chrysler of Japan

Go’s to show you need more then one quality scan tool nowadays. Ive yet to see one tool that does it all but the whole Launch based stuff is a must have in any arsenal whether its companion is a Snap On or an Autel.Great stuff Ivan👍

Flagship One is the absolute worst, I bought an injector driver from them and truck ran for two hours and left my customer stranded. Luckily I had sent the original to be repaired by a local shop and it arrived back the same day the Flagship unit failed. Truck has been running perfect for a year now. The worst part is arguing with their warranty department. STAY AWAY FROM FLAGSHIP ONE!

Boneyard parts (even electronics) are better than Flagship 1.

I used flagship one on a ECM sent it back 4 times ended up with a ECU from the bone yard on a Jag no start problem solved !!!

Messy. Thanks Ivan!

So far every one of your videos I've watched where an ECM or PCM was replaced with one from Flagship 1 the replacement unit was faulty. Apparently they have absolutely no quality control what so ever.

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Wow.. Watsontown.. is just few miles to the north of Lewisburg where I went to college! I took my car to Bucks auto repair: As a college kid, I could not afford his rates so I and friends called him Buck sucks money! Nothing wrong with him, it was our fault for getting used cars I guess!

Had a similar situation with a 03 ford Focus computer from CLOWN SHIP 1,would not program the keys , and it erased the Pat's memory module, I hope the go out of business.

I’ve used flagship for GM ECM for my 05 Saturn and they said they program it to the latest software They claimed just plug in and go! So I plug in and NADA! Sent back and got replaced Again nothing. Car started and ran but half my things did NOT WORK! Had to send back and get my $ back which they were cool about. (Unlike some places) I then got a ECM from local junk yard and plug in Then I was all good to go. My Honda needed a ECM But needed to be flashed/reprogrammed after install.

FS-1 may buy used ECM's in bulk , give them a quick " test " and get the spiders out . Then if it fails , " we'll send you another one " . Like a salvage yard for ECM's . Nothing like getting one from a wreck or from a vehicle with a bad engine , etc.

I think you would have to get an image from old to install in new.. I’m pretty sure that pcm is blank

Good afternoon

Cruise control out of adjustment will cause a P0605 tsb April 4 2013 National safety tsb Vibrate the box and it controls the throttle 😈 Great video keep em coming 👨‍🎓👍

Sad to see flagship one has dropped in quality they use to be excellent.

Great video Ivan. I wonder if the snap-on would've worked on the Nissan.

What is happening to the vehicle +12 VDC supply as shown on the scan tool? Given the age of the vehicle in the salt belt, it is wise to review a wiring diagram and inspect to see if the main +12 VDC (and grounds) cables are not corroded or damaged. Usually the ECM will have dedicated secondary power feeds the originate with an 8 AWG power and ground. In pairs, generally speaking you have three main power and ground systems; Starting, power distribution, and ECM, there will also be a charging connection from the alternator to the battery. These systems merge into splices at different locations in the vehicle. The +12 VDC module feeds will be fuse protected. The starting circuit may have a MEGA fuse or link fuse, and the alternator a fusible link wire or a link fuse. If there is an issue with the wiring the needs to be repaired this should be done first before continuing with troubleshooting. Then moving on to the ECM the wiring loom near the module, connectors and connector pins should be inspected and cleaning. This will rule out an intermittent signal connection at the ECM. With a new PCM you would re-flash the module, and do any relearning and module setup. Many times you can get as built data from the old ECM if it is original and can still communicate. This way you have the data setup file, rather than entering as built data during re-flashing. You can try and use a scan tool or use a J-Box and the OEM re-flashing application running on a laptop with access to the internet, usually through WIFI. The J-Box approach is the most common in a verified tool chain as compared to a generic scan tool. What does this tell us about flagship 1? Before releasing an ECM it would have to pass being programmed on the bench with the latest strategy. This is not trivial because the test bench has to emulate the vehicle in certain respects which is OEM specific to the make year and model. Then accept any as built data like the VIN, and component setup information, that does not require the entire vehicle. Meaning, you do as much on the bench as you can before releasing the ECM to the customer. It would seem Flagship 1 did not or cannot do a bench re-flashing and setup on the bench.

Is it possible that the FS1 ECU was old enough to want the older model password??

Ivan do you know what model Autel you where using in this video I really appreciate it Thanks

What if ECM had some limit for keys programming and it was wasted by someone before getting to the junk yard. Might it be? Here we would had try open it up and swap eprom 😅

I’m surprise flagship one is still in business

Are their other rebuilders/remanufacturers beside Flagship One?

Have we seen Don before? Looks familiar.

Wo ! Much electronics...

OMG, I had the exact same issue with a F-1 Nissan ECM front an 05' Altima. I got so fed up, I sold the car and never will I buy another Nissan, even if it's free. F-1 was horrible to deal with, and Nissans engineering was sketch. GM or Toyota for life now

I was attempting a key registration on a 2012 Nissan Armada using the Think tool Pros and for some reason, the pin code for the 2010 and above did not work, and the other pin number for 2010 and below worked just fine. Might be the reason why the other FS1 ECU did not program the key!

Surely that's the second duff unit from FS1 you have had ? "Fool you once" Regards Richard 🇬🇧

The reason you had an issue with the flagship, it seems there was no software part # which means that they somehow turned it into a blank ecu. I bet if you would have saved the ecu data (reprogramming before replacement) on the original, installed the new ecu and programed it (reprogramming after ecu replacement) then performed the key registration. I've seen ecu's get to that blank state at the dealership during interrupted recall reprogramming (very common on nissans) and was able to save a lot of them in that state of limbo

My ‘85 LandCruiser wouldn’t crank the other day. I hit the starter with a hammer and works perfect now with both keys. Just saying, but know I’m preaching to the choir.

Ya have had multiple faulty ecm from flagship.

Flagship1 has failed us again...Ivan where would you recommend us to go for a ecm if they are way expensive at dealer? Its gotta be another company that does quality work

ivan whats the name of the AUTEL im soing a lot of research but im not sure what one to get thanksn

Flagship is pretty good i used them before good price too

I just dropped in to see what my condition was in.

Are any of flagship ones ecm any good? Seems like every video I've ever watched of anyone trying one of their products, they either have to send it back multiple times or go with a junkyard or eBay ecm to get their cars going. How do they stay in buisness

Nice Nissan Allthismess.

Flagship one - is that a division of Dorman?

What is your good vs junk flagship one ECM tally? Doesn't seem to be in favor of the good column.

And Flaghship1 strikes again. Just awful.

Does the final video mean Don bought his own thinktool?

Ivan i want to learn about wiring diagrams, coding and programming And common rail diesel injection systems Let me know how you can help me and the cost

my 2012 niss altima SL is the worst i have owned and i owned many niss in past years,cvt issues and gremblems .HELP

I told you it was the ECU. 😝

FS1 didn't test that ECM, it's having communication problems. They probably pulled it from a junker and shipped it right out.

Flagship must have cooked the Flash memory! Did you notice that not only was the VIN blank, but all the calibration data was gone on the module information screen? Also don't they usually program the VIN when ordered?? I wonder if TESTING is part of the 'Recondition' process... Module programming has to be one of the most difficult and stressful jobs for a mobile technician and then to waste hours troubleshooting your programming rig just to find out its just junk parts. SMH...

Ivan what Autel are you using in this video cheers

Sad to say it’s not just fs1. I went through three ecm company’s and five different ecm from one in order to get my Dakota running. And it now does not cruse control. They are all junk providers.

Hey Ivan I’ve got a question for you it’s giving an interesting problem it’s a 2018 equinox with the 1.5 turbo it surges only when cold every other time it runs great gets great gas mileage I would try to hire you but I’m in lower South Carolina

Like @Gerard said, maybe the flagship one ECM should have been programmed as a "new" not used. I've read and heard that Nissan does things "differently" in their ECM'S/PCM'S. That scares me. I have an 06 4.0L V6 Frontier with 119,00+ miles on it. I hope it's a long time before I see this problem! Good one Ivan.

I really need help with P1574...

dry joint in the ECU

Flagship One sure seems to have some quality control issues with their PCMS... It's not like this was the first time, or second...

Was a new dealer ECM available?