Who's the best BURGEON Pyro Main DPS? - 7 Characters Compared - Builds and Showcase - Genshin Impact 

honestly, it has a lot to do with baizhu being a true off-field dendro healer (+ shield for anti-interrupts) as already brought up in his previous nilou video, the previous alternative, who was yaoyao, had plenty of limitations that would seriously limit other non-thoma burgeon teams (i.e. limited range of heals from E, and/or needs to be on-field for a bit if Q), which were non-issues with thoma due to his pyro being able to be triggered off-field by teammates + shield

Actually I love the Yanfei variation (I use kazuha CC because the bloom self damage is not much) for lower world levels, and even clears the spiral abyss with that.

Kazuha

It’s uh only with pyro being dps she is good… Nahida is the better driver. That’s why thoma is the only one works since it’s off field pyro application.

no bcs it'd be too much pyro and the enemy would start burning therefore you wouldn't have dendro to create cores, that's why thoma's slow pyro application is good in a burgeon team

@@luciiinek_9545 Ah, yea...

Yanfei damage here is low because her kit is focused on CA. Also xq hydro is not applied by CA. This is the reason why my burgeon yanfei does not work using wanderer set and enemies are always burning : ( Need to change artifacts and gameplay.

@@gteixeira2007 Oh, I mean, I am actually low level veteran and playing a hybrid kit😅

Maybe but most likely not. The more CA used, the less xingqiu burst ticks, the more vape damage but also the higher chance of triggering burning resulting loss of burgeons. So yeah, since they are built for full EM burgeon, the CA and burst will very likely just slow them down.

If you use the normal rotation for Yanfei the enemy s aura only get Pyro after some seconds. On the other side the na does not hit all the cores and also her ability is not focused on na. The solution is to spare less CA. The best scenario should be a fixed Dehya with a smaller icd on E , em scaling so you can use Candace infusion and be on field as main dps.

That is only true for regular dps. Burgeon needs more work since the auras needs to be in sync. Dendro has to be the stronger application and keep being refreshed, Hydro needs to be the second strongest so you make a lot of cores, pyro needs aoe to be effective but also needs to be weak applicatior to avoid taking place in the reaction. So the most optimal is 2 Dendro, 1 hydro 1 pyro. Where the hydro has to be off field strong application and pyro can't CA or burst for consistency. Also being at long range is a bit weird since you want everyone close together for the aoe, but I guess Yanfei works at range if you fighting single target or don't have Baizhu.

I hate Yanfei, but I need to build her now

It's amazing to see how hoyo can buff a version 1.0 character without even modifying a single bit of that character.. I expect more in the future for other characters as well.

@@GenshinDPSCalc Can u try Klee/Kokomi/XQ c6/Nahida? klee should be able to maybe get more seeds while also being able to vaporize for em/dmg/crit build being interesting.

Klee mono pyro works great to this day, I use it to clear abyss all the time

Even in speedrun it's only a few sec behind the no 1 team I don't know what are you talking about 😂 In casual play it's really easy since the ER requiement is really low and mono pyro characters is just very strong individually.

Prototype Amber doesn't regenerate energy for the whole team! It's only for the character that has it equipped.

And it works best with Thoma coz he doesn't need to be driver. Just keep switching to fave users whenever the weapon cool down is over and your energy issue will be resolved.

@@suryabhat2507 thanks! it's been a while since i've used it so i'd forgotten

Thank you too for watching! I made this video because a lot of comments from my previous video asked if Yanfei and Diluc can be good as alternatives to Klee.. so I made this 😁

Sounds terrible

@@mandolen3317 TERRIBLE indeed, but the creativity is what caught me off guard

@@remonstar5888 same, but still a terrible team. Id rather use Dehya in that comp lol

How does it feel to be absolutely right? I tried yanfei burgeon team for the first time and finished abyss for the first time ever lol

Must protecc

Klee meta?? Oh come one don't dream this

@@shubhamrohilla06 wha- klee is good? She feels horrible to play, but other than that her teams are actually damn competent, there hasn't been a single abyss i couldn't beat with monopyro, and at least my monopyro performs similar than international with just a couple seconds of difference, not to mention klee is a good burgeon driver since she doesn't need energy, more than that she's a battery she can actually give energy to the team with her 2 skills and then her CA that replenish 2 energy to all party members, she's a damn decent unit, is just that, there are better options for certain teams (not even THAT better, but easier to play that's true) and the fact that she's an old and clunky unit, no one wants to play the older units everyone want to try the new units and new teams. she performs: better than diluc and any other pyro dps that isn't xiangling or hu tao (just on single target though), she performs better than eula, performs better than itto if no c6 gorou which nowadays is normal since gorou only appears on itto banners, performs quite better than xiao if no c6 faruzan which again is very common, and the list goes on, klee monopyro is a very solid team, performing like 60k per CA that does aoe, has no energy issues, jumpy dumpty does more total dmg than the CA, and kazuha makes those bombs explode, so yeah i would say klee's actually quite meta, the fact that ppl don't play her doesn't mean she performs bad, but mihoyo totally did her dirty with her gameplay though, u have to jump, animation cancel, stun lock the enemies, large etc

@@NFYT and her burst does 45- 60k each as well. Klee is horribly overlooked.

No problem! Thank you for watching!!

Thank you!

Thank you too for watching!

More blooms doesnt mean more dmg, as you will depend on how often off fielders can trigger blooms and most of the time they are wasted .

There's also a problem with burgeon, it has a cap It doesn't matter if the character triggered burgeon with 5 dendro cores at the same time, it'll count as 2

Thank you for your input!!

You can but there will be fewer dendro cores since Nahida will be the only dendro applier. Yaoyao is the one you should put instead of Baizhu.

@@dchilo what about kuki?

​@@miavelvetKuki will trigger hyperbloom and steal too many cores, you also run the risk of her triggering other elemental reactions, ruining the bloom.

yeah, UP this, mine is nahida gets the deepwood, baizhu gilded, and klee use flower of Paradise.

Thanks so much for the detailed information! Hybrid build with great crit / EM substats is another way to build a burgeon DPS with Nahida Baizhu combo, but it takes so much time farming for them..

Thank you too for watching!

Yeah😂😂😂😂 finally someone

Thank you too for watching my videos!

Ah thank you for the information! so like Albedo and Raiden, it also suffers from shielded enemies I suppose?

@@GenshinDPSCalc yes it doesn't proc while the enemies are shielded.. the only alternative is to cast the skill near the bloom and once you've created more bloom seeds you need to recast it.. then if you have energy let her burst trigger bloom seeds one time and then swap/jump.. Guess her unintentional swap/jump in her burst has some utility after all 😂

One thing to keep in mind with her burst: The less you click the left mouse button, the fewer attacks she makes. Normally, that's a "Why would you want to do that?" thing, but for a burgeon team, it can let you stay in her burst, but reduce the amount of pyro application. Of course, she still won't work with Xingqiu or Yelan during said burst.

Yao Yao, pick her at lintern event

Perfectly fine, no significant difference actually with that much EM already from the artifact set. It's just that Sac fragments sometimes reset her elemental skill once in a while.

this is called an oven team by tcs

@@leovu8500 oh really? Thanks for the name!! Kinda wanna check it out bc if I can improve the builds I really think it can help me in abyss ahaha maybe I'll finally get some stars on floor 12!!

I have calculated in my Baizhu video that even with 1000 EM, Gilded dreams set still gives more burgeon or hyperbloom damage than Crimson or Thundering Fury, but not by much, only around 40k vs 42k. However, farming for gilded dreams domain won't hurt, because you can also get better deepwood for Nahida or maybe other character. In my case, I had to equip deepwood on my Xingqiu in a team without Nahida..

@GenshinDPSCalc True Gilded domain is more resin efficient. But in my case, it was the opposite. I had farmed Crimson domain for Diluc, Klee and HuTao, so I already had all the EM pieces I needed. But it's nice that Klee works well with burgeon. Back then, I had to learn machine-gun and I believe it was called Kite mechanics to use Klee adequately. I still use N3C with walk cancel.

I will, thank you for your recommendation!

It's because every time you use charge attack, it slightly delays the Xingqiu's hydro application, so you'll end up getting less dendro cores.

@@GenshinDPSCalc ohhhhhh I see thanks ❤️❤️❤️

@@MakinItRain24-7 charged atk is less good because burgeonning effectiveness is better the less pyro is applyed. Thats why Thimas and klee are the fastest. Klee NA are slow and Thomas application speed is once every 3s

Yes you can do with full HP build Zhongli without much damage loss! But as long as you're not fighting the doggos with corrosion mechanic! For Yaoyao, it's hard because her healing is not enough and you have to stay near the rabbit to get the healing..

Sorry I just tested against single target boss with Zhongli it turns out it doesn't have enough dendro application without Baizhu, so it's not really good :/ For multiple enemies though it seems fine with Zhongli.

Yeah I still remember everyone was hyping for the new burgeon character (Dehya), but sadly it didn't happen. Not sure when we'll get the new EM based pyro DPS that's intended for burgeon... Rumour says about Klee's new outfit, so I think they wanted to rerun Klee first then the new burgeon character a few patches later.. just a wild guess here 😁

Multiple shields do not stack unfortunately, so if you have 2 shields, the attack will damage both shields simultaneously, so it would still break Xinyan's shield.. I hate this mechanic since they revealed it in a developer notes way back then.. this also makes crystallize shields pretty much useless, because they don't stack on top of our other shield...

@@GenshinDPSCalc So that's what it means when they said it doesn't stack 😭 That's really unfortunate. Thank you for clearing it up.

It's about the same or slightly slower, but with added difficulty.. without proper crit and pyro build, the vape CA from Hu Tao is meaningless in full EM build. So it might work better if you use hybrid build instead (EM Pyro Crit).

@@GenshinDPSCalc I see! I was thinking that since Hu Tao is built with a decent amount of EM anyway, it would do well as both DPS and burgeon trigger.

This is to be expected. Xiangling is not the best for burgeon teams because of her no-ICD in pyronado. In normal national teams, that no-ICD is welcomed to vape every hit, but in burgeon team, that's too much pyro application for bloom to happen

Yaoyao

Yes! but unfortunately Kitain is a 4 star limited weapon banner that can only be gotten through its own banner, so you need to pull in a weapon banner to even get a chance 😥 Sadly I never pulled for weapon banner anymore (got bad experiences with the Amos Bow banner) so I will never have a Kitain in my account...

@@GenshinDPSCalc Kitain is the craftable Inazuma polearm 😅 though I agree billets are hard to get Mine has an R5 tho

Oh wait I mixed up Kitain with the Xiphos! haha apologies!

Is it the Kitain cross spear?

@@GenshinDPSCalc yea that one keep forgetting the name i plan to refine it but no billets right now

how much er from substats? having teammates w fav can also help

@@reomiomio 170 for me with 4 set flower of paradise

@@reomiomio 140 from sub stats xingqiu & yao yao on fav

Yes the Kitain cross spear!

It's much better to use him in Hyperbloom tho

@@mandolen3317 really not. Childe is amazing in burgeon cause you have to prevent burning to allow burgeon to shine and he is the only one good at applying aoe hydro faster than every 1s fir both vaping the burning away and creating seeds. In Hyperbloom Childe does not have anything special and worse since he disrupt sometimes the dendro aura by eating it too fast. Baizhu or Nahida are far more effective

@@lafeechloe6998 i mean, sure it works. But Hyperbloom is just better. i don't have time to go into more detail, but Hyperbloom does more dmg at the end of the day. My uid: 707200972, im a veteran player

is there a fav user or a battery on your team cause i run Nahida on fav and bennett on sapwood along with both Childe and Thoma. i actually want a 2nd dendro unit to help with more fav mechanics and dendro res.

​@@mandolen3317nah i agree. i used to run childe hyperfridge but it just doesn't feel as good when running him in burgeon. Childe without vaporize feels meh to me. I'd rather run another hydro unit like Ayato, Xingqiu, Yelan, Kokomi etc on hyperbloom

That works, or use zhongli. Less cores but still works. There is also always good old triple pyro for klee aswell

You can make it work with Yaoyao, but it's too dangerous, Baizhu is pretty much needed in this kind of team comp...

@@GenshinDPSCalc 😢😢😢

Yeah, and you don't need to up her talents at all for burgeon team like this (to save resin). But if you have spare materials, you can go for 6,6,6 to get that extra liitle damage.

Using Q will delay Xingqiu's burst attack by 2 seconds due to the animation, and that will stop the production of dendro cores, thus less burgeon damage. E also caused slight delay but in cases where there are dendro cores a bit too far, you can use it to trigger those cores! So you can use E occasionaly, but you don't need Q. Although in other comment, someone noted that using her Q can give you energy particles to the team as well..

​@@GenshinDPSCalc i will beat u up bro Jk

It doesn't matter None of the current pyro 5* or 4* have a constellation that increases burgeon damage, and their personal damage is low because they have a full em build

No

Yeah! and you don't really need to up her talents at all to save materials. Or maybe go for 6,6,6 for a liiitle bit of extra damage if you have spare materials!

I have Yanfei for burgeon but the charged atk does not activate Yelan Candace and xq talents/buffs. The ca is the main dps source for her. I don't have Kokomi or Ayato which are the only ones providing AOE and ayato buff does not work either. I was looking for someone else that does not rely on CA and also have better survavibility. I don't have yanfei c4 yet. I also have Tig which has the same issue. We need some CA hydro support not only Na and AOE. Perhaps the new archon can bring some light. Candace could handle this if they changed her C6 to proc CA. The infusion is useless since most dps characters already have infusion. We have a bunch of chars that do the same task and we lack support for CA which only Beidu provides up to now. The dps difference must be much greater if you use some na buffer during this test.

@@sendyfernando6492 why not? Can't hit the cores?

@@gteixeira2007 well she is single target dps, you can watch in the end of video, why excluding yoimiya, xinyan and dehya. I think cuz his att speed make her vaporize more then burgeon. But for fun it's still work better then dehya burgeon.