CT said in his Home Turf episode that he was told he and Diem HAD to go up the middle of the mountain in the Exes I final. Then they let Johnny and (especially) Camilla walk on the sides where there was less snow. However, Diem should have put Mark/Robin in against Johnny/Camilla either times those last 2 eliminations.
Vendettas: Cara was in 4th place going into the last checkpoint, behind Leroy who was eliminated (also gender separated the entire season until this point). Then she is placed even with Zach who was in 1st well ahead of of Cara. Then she only beat him by 1 wrong color circle. I bet had she been placed where she should have been with having only 1 winner., it may not have been the same outcome. If you are going to give someone a boost in their placement to the same spot as the leader for no reason other than their gender l, then you need 2 winners.
Yeah Zach got screwed. The whole format was gender based and to completely change it at the very end ruined what was a pretty entertaining final. Either Zach should of been awarded a head start over Cara or there should of been a winner from each gender, IE Zach and Cara.
u guys forgot that in rivals 3 final, the overnight portion was worth 2 points. the others were just worth 1. if sarah had the 2 points for the overnight, she wouldve at least tied Johnny in points
As a die hard challenge fan this is my list fs. All winners for me based of just regualar season dominance and politics. Duel 2 - Landon and Rachel ( CT WOULDA THO ) The Ruins - Champs w/ darrell tho 🥺 FM2 - Kenny and Laurel Cutthroat - Gray Team Rivals - CT & Adam, Paula and Ev Exes 1 - CT and Diem ( sad CT gassed out 🤧 ) BOTS - San Diego Rivals 2 - Wes and CT , Paula and Emily Free Agents - Johnny and Laurel Exes 2 - Wes and Theresa Bloodlines - cory and mitch Rivals 3 - Johnny and Sarah ( weak ahh cast ) IOTC - Darrell and Laurel Dirty 30 - jordan and camila Vendettas - cara Final Reckoning - Zach and Amanda or Joss and Sylvia tbhh ( ROBBED ) War of the Worlds - Wes WOTW2 - uk team :) ( jordan 🐐 ) Total Madness - Johnny ( rigged szn for him tbh👀 ) Others are good winners .
Yeah but regular season dominance is one thing, running a final is another. Bcs the only thing i disagree is Wes on Wotw 1. Turbo and Theo killed that final.
@@Bangbang-xt7kfthats facts! I juss based it off the season as a whole. Like for example. Exes 2 . Jordan kills sarah in a finals but overally wes played that szn to a tea
@@johnjungkook2721 i love Wes but that was maybe last season he could beat anybody in the final. 😂 And i think they were first in mini final that season and it was not even close.
I will say that based on your guys revised history in this if all of these come true (especially the obvious ones) I think people talk about the two GOATS when it comes to men as CT and Wes and not Johnny Bananas and CT. Those two wins Johnny got from Wes in Exes and Rivals paint Wes in a much different light. And in that regard that would make Cara have two more wins which makes the gap even bigger between her and any other girl champion.
SLA, Kaycee should not have been able to pick her partner cause she won the last elimination in the final. She got to stay for winning. Tori got screwed in that one. She should have been able to pick for being 1st female to get there not just safe from elimination.
One idea for what if' s , because i am rewatching WotW2 rn , what do you think changes if Theo and Georgia switch to US after double elimination ( and if production would allow that - because of big difference in numbers of players ) . Greetings from Serbia,big fan.
If that happens, Team USA probably cruises to victory because Cara's Cult wouldn't have the Team USA numbers anymore. I guess there would probably still be some kind of enormous purge in the final. If the rest of the season played out the same, then Ninja (and probably Paulie) is 100% going in if they lose another daily. They would also probably force the better UK players to face each other rather than voting in their own even after winning.
Theo said the reason he and Georgia never switched was because it wasn't clear to them where the divide in Team US was they thought it was Josh/Nany and maybe Zach against the rest of the Americans. It wasn't clear to them that Jordan and Tori weren't part of the Cara/Paulie alliance. So they weren't aware they had the numbers if they switched.
Landon... That is all. Everyone knows that if Landon is in a final, he wins. He could get Aneesa a win he's that good. Also, Johnny should have been DQ'd honestly. Zack was dq'd for cheating so yeah.
I have to disagree on the invasion elimination thing. Nobody wants to see people getting thrown around especially if it isn’t gonna be interesting. The knot so fast elim was really good on my opinion
my personal take on this: duel 2: landon and rachel the ruins: champs with darrell (but sarah and kellyanne winning would have been the funniest thing to ever happen on this show) fresh meat 2: kenny and laurel cutthroat: red team with paula rivals: kenny and wes & paula and evelyn battle of the exes: ct and diem battle of the seasons: dustin and trishelle rivals ii: ct and wes & emily and paula free agents: laurel and bananas exes ii: wes and theresa bloodlines: cara and jamie or cory and mitch rivals iii: johnny and sarah (there is no outcome where they aren’t winning) invasion: nelson and ashley dirty 30: hunter and cara vendettas: cara final reckoning: joss and sylvia wotw: turbo or theo wotw2: team uk except replace rogan or dee with tori total madness: bananas and jenny double agents: kam and cory sla: kyle and tori ride or dies: bananas and nany bfanc: nurys all stars 1: yes all stars 2: mj and jonna all stars 3: wes and jonna all stars 4: steve
I will still blame Diem for making CT lose exes 2 final for the rest of my life , they had 2 , two!!! Opportunities to get rid of bananas but she didn't want it , if the final was CT - Diem, Mark - Robin, Ty - Emily, even with CT gassing out in the mountain they would have been far ahead of the other teams
CT said in his Home Turf episode that for that last part up the mountain he was told they HAD to go in the middle. Then he looks and sees Johnny and (especially) Camilla going up the side where there was less snow. 🤷♀️
As far as cutthroat y’all should’ve mentioned Ct coming in and how they waited to match him up against bananas specifically knowing bananas and Derrick were altering eliminations at that point. They could’ve clearly won the final
Wes was jipped in Exes II. Like he said at the reunion, eberyone even Theresa got a aecond xhance and he didnt. I totally think they could have given Sarah and Jordan a run for 1st.
I mean, this is The Challenge. Bananas lost Cutthroat because of an unprecedented mercenary twist. Once they crossed that line, a redemption house was inevitable. I'm just surprised it didn't happen earlier. I also don't think Wes and Theresa could beat Jordan and Sarah in the final. Jordan is just a lot better than Wes is.
Stop comparing bbq family games of all star to the regular seasons. Derrick has zero chance of beating any competitors on the flag ship show. All star seasons are like playing in the D league.