Neymar, all day, all night. Ronaldinho has a legacy, he WAS the best player on the planet, whilst Neymar never managed that, even with all his (unrealised) potential.
I dunno, Ronaldinho had more potential than Neymar. And ye, i agree that 2 the most wasted talents in football's history were Ronaldo el phenomenon and Ronaldo gaucho (aka Ronaldinho). And i mean, Ronaldinho had a potential of Maradona, and so Ronaldo in his prime was the best nr. 9.
@@tropicaltrev1617 Yes they were. If Ronaldo el phenomenon stayed fit he would MOST CERTAINLY score more goals overall than Ronaldo7. Mourinho didnt joke when he said r9 was better than r7. Im not sure if you watched Barcelona in 2000-2002 and if you know how much Barcelona's playstyle changed since Ronaldinho joined the club... But ye, he had only 3 great seasons. If he stayed fit he could have had status of Maradona. Literally.
But Ronaldinho also had higher unrealized potential. If he instead of, went clubbing and practice more like Christiano Ronaldo, he would be at a higher and longer peak.
This conversation isn’t even a debate. Ronaldinho is a generational talent and had an amazing career. For me the most enjoyable player to watch in my life (I’m age 43). Messi proabably the best player but in terms of excitement, entertainment, captivating and bringing joy…. It’s Ronaldinho. He helped rejuvenate Barca and I think disrespectful to even say he did not meet potential. He exceeded when he moved from PSG to Barca that wasn’t expected. His problem which I guess was said in this debate is I guess with his skill set he could have won more Ballon D’ors
I don’t think you understand. I believe that ronaldinho definitely underachieved more than Neymar. Why? Because in my opinion I think ronaldinho at peak was as good or could’ve exceeded Messi at some points in his career. But in reality Ronaldinho chose a lifestyle that didn’t benefit him at a football standpoint. I’m not saying Ronaldinho is inferior or not as successful as neymar, I’m just saying Ronaldinho had potential to have way more individual awards.
@@tides1586 hey… I do get the point. Which is he did good but basically could of had way more. 👍🏾. I get that and that is true. My angle is before he went to Barca (same year Beckham I think went for more money to Madrid) I wonder, did people expect him to carry Barca how he did? So I’m some ways he initially exceeded. In any case I like good debates (keep it respectful ☺️) so not going to even disagree with you but that’s what I mean.
@@RemofRenaissance Yea, im with tides on that. And Ronaldinho was the most exciting player ive ever watched too (im 32). So the thing is when you think about Ronaldo or Ronaldinho, youre like: "they achieved so much having only 3-4 top seasons... Imagine they had 20 of those - like Messi or C. Ronaldo". Neymar was never one of those top-top players. Sure he could have had a lot better career - but he wasnt Messi, C. Ronaldo, Ronaldinho or Ronaldo el phenomenon (i mean: absolute best of their times).
Ronaldinho won it all. Even though his peak was short lived honestly we got an amazing 10 years minimum from him when you count his younger years as well. Neymar always getting injured at the worst times is just too much to ignore as well.
No 10 🤣 ronni it’s 1 perfect yesrs 2005 he never see top10. 2004 he was good. You don’t even see ronni and you talk about him how you created 10 years. Neymar it’s so clear of r10 🤣 in Brazil in psg IN UCL LIGA. You are so LIMITE YOU DONT EVEN UNDERSTAND QUESTION. NEYMAR HAVE 29 trophie 2011-2021 prime. Ronni have 14 trophie. 1 year peak 2005. r10 WON BALLON DOR AGAINST GERRAD LAMPARD. R9 was finish in 2005. Zidane was not good season. 🤣. Don’t comparer incomparable NEYMAR 9 years BEST PLAYERS OF YEARS 2 years ONLY Messi cr7 WAS BETTER 2017-2015. Ronni was at psg 2001-2003 was bad. 2 years 1 years bench. Neymar ITS MOST COMPLETE WINGER FOOTBALL GOAL ASSITS TRAVELING PASS KEY PASS WEAK FOOT GOAL CENTER ASSITS , creativity dribller record dribller fk , UCL LIGA WC COPA UCL. prime of neymar only Messi cr7 was better ITS BE TOP3 best players in world top scores assits ucl «most assits in ucl, only players history scores in each double confrontation, Neymar ITS 9 YEARS FIFA BEST PLAYERS. 2016 NEYMAR CARRY BARCA WITHOUT MESSI DESTROY MADRID 4-0, SCORES 14 goal 9 assits TOP SCORES ASSITS WC CLUB COPA DEL REY, golden ball Olympic scores alone every goal in every game RECORD GOAL MOST FAST IN FINAL. TOP ASSITS OF YEARS 2013-2016. Neymar santos it's clear of both was only players history top10,5 best players in world puskas GOLDEN BALL WC CLUB DESTROY PUYOL, GOLDEN BALL CONFEDERATION ALONE SCORES IN EVERY GAME DESTROY SPAIN OF CASILAS RAMOS PIQUE XAVI INIESTA TORRES SCORES WEAK FOOT GOAL NEYMAR DESTROY PIQUE, ITALIE OF BUFFON CHIELINI BONNUCI BALLOTELI NEYMAR SCORES INCREDIBLE FK, URUGAY JAPON VOLEY MEXICO. ONLY NEYMAR PSG ITS BETTER CARRY PSG IN FINAL SF UCL WAS TOP3,4 best players ucl FOR Schweinsteiger say Neymar make best ASSITS HISTORY UCL NO LOOK TRAVELING PASS. 2019 Neymar make record hat trick with 2 fk destroy Liverpool Napoli, 2018 Neymar was just in other planète. 2021 Neymar alone carry.brazil in final COPA WAS POTM COPA, ALL ARGENTINA players SAY THEY HAVE TO every goal in every game RECORD GOAL MOST FAST IN FINAL. TOP ASSITS OF YEARS 2013-2016. Neymar santos it's clear of both was only players history top10,5 best players in world puskas GOLDEN BALL WC CLUB DESTROY PUYOL, GOLDEN BALL CONFEDERATION ALONE SCORES IN EVERY GAME DESTROY SPAIN OF CASILAS RAMOS PIQUE XAVI INIESTA TORRES SCORES WEAK FOOT GOAL NEYMAR DESTROY PIQUE, ITALIE OF BUFFON CHIELINI BONNUCI BALLOTELI NEYMAR SCORES INCREDIBLE FK, URUGAY JAPON VOLEY MEXICO. ONLY NEYMAR PSG ITS BETTER CARRY PSG IN FINAL SF UCL WAS TOP3,4 best players ucl FOR Schweinsteiger say Neymar make best ASSITS HISTORY UCL NO LOOK TRAVELING PASS. 2019 Neymar make record hat trick with 2 fk destroy Liverpool Napoli, 2018 Neymar was just in other planète. 2021 Neymar alone carry.brazil in final COPA WAS POTM COPA, ALL ARGENTINA players SAY THEY HAVE TO tacle GRAB NEYMAR BCS HE WAS UNSTOPPABLE.
No, Neymar is actually close to Dinho in terms of individual talent. What if Dinho played in Neymars era, he probably would not have won the WC with the recent Brazil squads
@@MacGamer10 hope u know that Brazil team now is better than Brazil team when dinho won world cup, rivaldo and Carlos are old as F , they had a striker who as not kicked a ball in 2 yrs
When did it ever become a thing that Ronaldinho underachieved????? He is the reason so many of us love football. He did decline relatively quick by today’s standards but that IS NOT the same as ‘underachieving’.
He won everything there was to win and then decided to just chill. As a fan I wished he had remained in form because that dude was such a joy to watch. A true magician on the pitch.
Ronaldinho completed football at 26. WC, Copa America, CL, League title, individual award like ballon do'r or FIFA best. Neymar fanboys only have two arguments - More Goals + Assists and that he competed with Messi and Ronaldo🙏
It’s clearly Neymar. Before Ronaldinho lost his form he achieved everything in football. For both his club and country. And also won numerous individual awards.
Neymar have more individual trophie and 29 trophie. R10 14 trophie. R19 ONLY HAVE BEST BRAZIL , NEYMAR 0 players of Brazil was good in selecao. And Neymar 9 years fifa best players of years he COMPETE 2 years IN BALLON DOR AGAINST MESSI CR7 2017-2015. No only individual award ronni have ITS BALLON DOR. RONNI 0 individual trophie UCL wc Brazil psg Barca LIGA NEYMAR HAVE SO MUCH MORE INDIVIDUAL TROPHIE and trophie. R10 2002 won wc SOME TIME WAS BENCH R10 RIVALDO CAFU ROBERTO CARLOS WAS CLEAR ,2001-2003 bad in psg play only 36 game in pitch 16 game in bench. 2003/2004-2005 he was other level at Barcelona won ballon dor AGAINST GERRAD LAMPARD 2005. 2006 WC of ronni was horrible. 2010 not call bcs 2007-2010 R10 was finish. Neymar it’s PLAYERS MOST COMPLETE IN HISTORY 25 goal FK, LONG SHOOT HEADER, GOAL ASSITS, Traveling pass creativity control weak foot driblling. Neymar its 475 goal 289 assits 79 goal 59 assits top assits all time nation, 21 goal final top3 scores final, 23 motm ucl top3 players with most individual motm trophie ucl history. Neymar individual awards FIFA Ballon d'or-3rd(2015),3rd(2017),5th (2013)5th(2013),5th(2016),10th(2012) 12(2018) 4(2012). FIFA the best men's player-3rd(2017), 4th (2016), 2 (2020) ,3(2021) , 2022 (9) UEFA player of the year-4th(2019/20),5th(2014/15) FIFA Puskás Award: 2011 FIFA Club World Cup Bronze Ball: 2011 FIFA CLUB WORLD CUP GOLDEN BALL FIFA Confederations Cup Golden Ball: 2013 FIFA Confederations Cup Bronze Shoe: 2013 FIFA Confederations Cup TOTT: 2013 FIFA World Cup Bronze Boot: 2014 FIFA World Cup TOTT: 2014 FIFA UEFA OF YEARS 2014/15,2019/20,2020/21. FIFA FIFPro World11: 2015,2017 FIFA FIFPro World11 2nd team: 2013,2014, 2016,2018 FIFA FIFPro World11 3rd team:2020 FIFA FIFPro nominee:2019(6th forward) IFFHS World's Best Playmaker Bronze award: 2017 IFFHS Men's World Team: 2017 IFFHS World's Best Man Player of the Decade 2011-2020: 4th place ESM Team of the Year: 2017-18 IFFHS CONMEBOL team of the decade 2011-2020 Copa Del Rey top scorer assits -2014/15 UEFA champions league top assist provider-2015/16,2016/17 FIFA club World Cup top assist provider-2015 UEFA champions league top scorer-2014/15 UEFA Champions League Squad of the Season: 2014-15,2019-20,2020-21 La Liga Best World Player: 2014-15 UNFP Ligue 1 Player of the Year: Samba Gold: 2014, 2015, 2017,2020,2021,2022 La Liga Player of the Month: November 2015 Copa America POTT-2021 (joint) Copa America TOTT-2021
Ronaldinho is one of the best footballers of all time. I’ve never thought he was underachieving in any way. He’s a legend and won the World Cup, Ballon D’Or etc.
Ronaldinho is the most skilful player ever to play the game, his flair and silky movements bring joy to even opposition fans, never dives and smiling all the times. Won World Cup, copa America, Champions League, 2 times Balon dor etc…. Let’s stop disrespecting the legend because Neymar isn’t anywhere close to Ronaldinho
When you talk about underachieved Brazilian players: Robinho , Pato , Neymar, Coutinho . Short career Brazilian players but achieved are: Ronaldo, Kaka and Ronaldinho
Ronaldinho won a ballon d'or, got robbed of the 2004 and 2006 ballon D'or, won the world cup, won La Liga, won Champions League! But longevity merchants will tell you that he underachieved even though he achieved more than most players with longevity.
longevity is the least important factor when rating players in any sport. what's important is how good they were in their prime and what they achieved in that time. Ronaldinho achieved more in less time than Neymar. it's not even close.
Stop with this bullsh1t. 2004 was a perfect year for Andriy Schevchenko and 2006 was won by Cannavaro, although controversial, Henry and Cannavaro had a far better year than Ronaldinho in 2006.
Ronaldinho is the reason I fell in love with futbol. It’s the reason I got into it during the 2006 world up was my first time really watching futbol. Playing fifa street playing fifa 2006. All the joga bonito videos Nike commercials god what a time !!
@@yk100 why??? They already had way way more. if your familiar with the youth football world you will know there are many many super talented players who never even make it to being professional. Everyone is not going to be a Messi and Ronaldo. What Neymar and Ronaldinho have achieved is absolutely fantastic. There is no question for more.
@@RonniePickaring Schweinsteiger achieved more and led his country to a WC meanwhile Gerrard has one CL title and his slip in one of the biggest moments of his club costed them a league title.
Seb has come a long way as a presenter, he's still a little uptight at times but he's started taking the banter in his stride and even dishing a little of his won at times. Refreshing indeed, well played.
How is even a comparison? When was the last time you watched a game with Ronaldinho being a passenger in the team? The guy literary won everything. Copa America, World Cup, Champions League, La Liga, Balon d'Or, young player of the year, top scorer, player of the tournament. And he was playing football, not taking selfies and buying supercars
Ronaldinho had two good years, but that's probably the best two years anyone has ever played bar Messi. Also I miss the dude, football was pure fun with him.
05/06 his best year followed by 04/05. He was also good in 03/04 and 06/07 but really fell off in the 07/08 season. He was a shadow of the player he was in that season
Neymar how is that even a question?! Ronaldinho won the WC and the Ballon d’Or and he was the leader of Barça winning the UCL so no comparisons here really
So stupid your answer Kaka won a ballon d’Or and WC and is no even close, hate 😂. Ronaldinho no even better dribbling, it hasn’t more goal, and the only big made was won a WC playing with Ronaldo, rivaldo, Cafu, Roberto Carlos, come on give a better shot
Well, Ronaldinho was more positive, so he attracted less drama on pitch, also had a stronger body. For me, Neymar is more talented, but his body is so slim for today's football, so I really don't think he is 100% guilty. I think the transition of Ronaldinho was more abruptly in his decline, but he had 3 wonderful years so I will not say he wasted talent. I think he adapted more poorly to ageing and tried to drible too much. I he kept it simple and trained as CR7 he would have made it to 2011 at Barcelona wining another treble at least.
Neymar is hands down the most gifted player of this generation after messi, it's a shame he made the wrong career choices. With the right career choices this guy would be in top 5/10 lists consistently. The prince who never became king 💔
@@imransuhail82”Pure ability with the ball” what exactly is he better at than Messi with the ball at his feet? Neymar is an inferior passer, inferior dribbler, inferior goalscorer, he’s inferior in pretty much every metric with the ball. So what are you basing your claim on exactly? just pure Brazilian flair?
I dont care what anyone tells me Ronaldinho was the player that made fall in love with the sport. Growing up in a refugee camp and seen him play and that smile on his face what everyone forget their troubles. Ronaldinho will forever be my goat.
I remember a young Ronaldinho being devastating and winning the World cup with a young Kaka on the bench the whole tournament, the only game he didn't play they missed him badly and struggled to win, even though Rivaldo and Ronaldo were the main men then.
The question was who underachieved more. Neymar was supposed to be the next Pele... Not even close. Zero world player of the year awards and zero world cups. Ronaldinho won tons of trophies and individual awards. Could Ronaldinho have done more? Sure but he had an amazing career that peaked too soon
Neymar. Not even a debate LMAO. Ronaldinho won a WC, ballon d'or and more. I just wish Neymar was never suffering with injuries and we could've seen how far he'd go and how much he'd accomplish
Dinho underachieved? I mean he didn’t last as long as expected but come on… The real comparison should be between Neymar and Robinho (that’s clear too)
Hating on Neymar never ends, does it? Neymar just past Pele to become Brasil's all time leading goal scorer and all you can talk about is how he under achieves. IRONIC, would you say, ESPN? It is astounding how much you (ESPN) hate Neymar. Y?
Neymar is one of the greatest football talents. His frail body that can’t shake off the defenders and constant injuries is literally his Achilles heel.
It's easily Neymar, Ronaldinho reached his peak and became the best player in the world at one point but just didn't sustain that peak for many years like many of us hoped but Neymar never reached that peak that we all thought he could've. Ronaldinho also has a world cup title and a ballon dor and Neymar doesn't.
This can't be a serious question -- while Ronaldinho did underachieve and fizzled out earlier than he should have, he has won EVERYTHING. Every single thing. There's a lot to consider as well: Ronaldinho played in a brazil team that had some GOATS: Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Cafu, Roberto Carlos....Neymar was surrounded by a lot of younger players and experimental coaches that oftentimes didn't anticipate his genius and creativity. Those goes for both post-2014 Brazil and PSG. I daresay Neymar is even more of a genius than Ronaldinho, but again, that genius is only truly fulfilled if your teammates can appreciate and maximize on it. Neymar's only hope of equalling Ronaldinho's achievements is to not equal Ronaldinho's fate: don't get lazy, don't get chubby, don't let the party life win out. Keep your head down, train hard, be disciplined, focus, but yes: keep the brilliance.
Nah, Ronaldinho in his prime was certainly A LOT better than Neymar ever was. Not even close mate. Neymar isnt even in top 5 best Brasilian players ever.
The only thing Neymar will have more than Ronaldinho and that's why he moved to Saudi Arabia. Besides that there is nothing that Neymar is going to achieve which is better than Ronaldinho in his career. His career is done!!
Someone once said this to me, if you want to make something look greater than it is, put it around substandard quality and whatever it is you want to highlight will look great. Neymar has always played with substandard talent on brazil . Neymar at psg was the third best player when mbappe and cavani was there and he became the fourth best when messi arrived . Neymar was the third best player at barca when messi and suarez was playing so , is the guy that good afterall?
Ronaldinho underachieved more than Neymar in my opinion. He was incredible for those 3 years at Barca in his peak but it could have been way longer. A player of his ability should have at least won two or more Ballon d' Ors. He was 30 years old in the 2010 FIFA World Cup but he was not in the squad. This is the most talented player of his generation, not in the World Cup at 30 years old. Juxtapose that with Messi and Ronaldo - At 30 years old they were unquestionably dominating football.
Ronaldinho is the only player to have won world cup, copa America, confederations cup, champions league, copa libertadores and a Ballon d or. Tf are you talking about underachieved!?!?! Lol what a joke
@@jponz85 Maybe I misunderstood the question. Ronaldinho is way more accomplished than Neymar in terms of accolades and trophies. Only a fool would deny that. But let's look at talent. Neymar is not where near as talented as Ronaldinho. Ronaldinho is genius level talent but at 28 years he was done. He was just playing for fun. He was content in and was no longer hungry for success. He could have dominated football well into his 30's if he didn't party all the time and took his career more seriously. By the metric, I think he underachieved than Neymar.
@@zwaks.mthimkhulu ronaldinho won everything possible. How tf did he underachieve? Neymar won what? Champions league, la liga and a gold Olympic medal. Whooptydoo....
@@jponz85 I gave a comprehensive explaination my of position on this - but to summarize. Ronaldinho underachieved than in terms of doing justice to his talent. Ronaldinho could've doubled his trophies if he wanted to.
To 2010s kids Neymar is the most skillful player they've ever seen to 2000s kids Ronaldinho is the most skillful player they've ever seen. Difference Ronaldinho won everything he could possibly win at Club Football and he won the biggest individual award, The Balon do'r. Neymar chose Money everyone thought he was trying to escape Messi's shadow to truly become what people expected him to be when he joined PSG but that wasn't the case, even a young Mbappe showed more ambition and later surpassed him to be PSG most valued Player and all Time Scorer at only 24.
Definitely Neymar. No Ballon D’or, no big title with national team. Just a lot of money for doing nothing all season long. At least, Ronaldinho showed the world his full potential at some point during his career. He could do more and gain more titles but when it comes to showing talent, he did more than his little brother. Even fat, he still did great thing at the end of his career.
Didn't Neymar also "showed his talent at some point in his career" eg. Barca, and it has always been an nearly impossible task for him getting Ballon D'or with Messi and Ronaldo at their prime
Winning world cup with a team of Ronaldo Nazario (top scorer & best player), Rivaldo (second highest scorer & second best player), Roberto Carlos, Cafu, Dunga is not a great achievement. For example, Giurd won World Cup with France but he wasn’t better than Griezman, Mbappe, Pogba (not saying that Giurd is comparable to Ronnie)... If Ronaldinho had to fight with prime Messi and CR7, who scored 60-70 goals in a season, he wouldn’t have won any Ballon D'or. I am 40 yrs of age and I have been watching football since Maradona era. Ronaldinho was wonderful, magical, and electrifying, but his physical prime in terms of performance lasted only 2-3 years at the top level (2004-2007). It's bad luck for Neymar that he had so many injuries, and had to compete for Ballon D'or with prime Messi & CR7. Moreover, he didn't get Ronaldo Nazario, Rivaldo, Kaka, Romario, Ronaldinho, Adriano, Roberto Carlos, Cafu to help him win the world cup & Copa, he got FRED, JO, HULK, WILLIAN, RICHA, FIRMINO, JESUS as his striker. For example, Edmilson won 2002 world cup for Brazil, does it make him better footballer than Neymar? LOL Playing as winger & attacking midfielder, Neymar has become the all time goal and assists provider of Brazil at the age of 31 despite having so many injuries. That's what is called achievement and proof of longevity. So, Ronaldinho could have achieved more and should have led Brazil to that 2006 world cup in his prime with Ronaldo, Kaka, Adriano in his team.
NEYMAR & RONALDHINO are 2 brilliantly Godgiven talented football legends with the immense ability to entertain & whoaw football world spectators whilst being positively effective at it even at the grandest stages of football.
Ronaldinho won it all. World cup, ballon dor, champions league,. Ronaldinho at his peak is up there with Messi, Cristiano, Maradona, Pele. But because he had a short lived peak and basically ruined his own career because all the fame and money got to him he declined just at 28 years old. When you look at Messi and Ronaldo who were at the top of the game until 35-36 years you can really admire those two.
I didn’t know it was a conversation? 😳.. did Ronaldinho underachieve yes.. but that’s how good he was that he achieved everything and had a 1% of the of the 1% type of career speaks volumes of how good he really was when he was flying. But he achieved more than neymar. Not only winning the highest with club and country. But also individual and known as THE most Entertaining of all time. Some kids will never have seen prime Dinho and it was something out of this world. So was neymar. But Ronaldinho is never in that conversation
A few months ago I commented on an ESPN post saying Ronaldinho underachieved in his career. No doubt he won but he could have done much more. What followed was a bunch of non-ultras trying to prove their point saying he hadn't. But he did underachieve and now ESPN has an entire video about it😂😂😂
One guy won it all🤔 got a standing ovation 🤔. And did it all with a boombox in one hand and a drink in the other .staying up till 4 in the morning 7 days a week . 😂
I love Ronaldinho, and he is one of the reason I became a Barca supporter, but if we look at this without tribal support I think it is almost the same. The main difference ins that Ronaldinho won the world cup but he also had Ronaldo, Cafu, Roberto Carlos, Rivaldo and many other while Neymar had Fred and David Luiz and still got them to the semis. They both lit it up at Barca, Neymar scored more goals for Barca AND for Brazil, and after Barca Ronaldinho's career rapidly declined due to his off field lifestyle. I think if Ney had even HALF the team Ronaldinho had he'd have a World Cup already
Not entirely true. Ronaldinho revitalized FC Barcelona who had been in the dumps for years and brought them 2 La liga & their 2nd UCL trophy with outer worldly performances that made him not only the undisputed best player in the world for about 3-4 years but also the most loved player in the world. Neymar did not achieve that, he decided to go to PSG when he could have added more trophies playing with Messi and Suarez at FC Barcelona. Neymar had the potential to become the best in the world but he never got to the top of the world as Dinho did.
How many players do you think would give a body part for even half of Ronaldinho's accomplishments. In his prime the man won every major trophy he could win. In what world is that underachieving.
how is this even a discussion? ronaldinho won a world cup, champions, la liga, fifa best player of the year 2x, and was so good even madrid players cheered for him in their stadium
I get Luis point. As someone who was actually there, trained with ronaldinho, he seen the talent compared to the best, probably even saw his personal life, im sure it comes from frustration of “hey dude it you’d be more serious you could go so high” Personally id say Neymar tho. I have a more emotional connection to Neymar but id still say ronaldinho was better. He could be lazy and still play a good game. Purely relying on class, not speed
Context matters, ronaldinho won ballon d'or in a non messi/ronaldo era. Won the wc with prime brazil while neymar was asked to carry hulk and thrash teams and was still the star until he was injured against columbia and they have similar feat in the ucl. Neymar that year was the only player to score in all stages of the ucl while ronaldinho ghosted in the finals. They are quite close people are just blinded by nostalgia
the disrespect to put ronaldihno and neymar in the same line and then to put underachieved, Ronaldihno has won everything, including a ballan dor to compare him to Neymar is something I can't understand, not to forgot the respect soccer players have for Ronaldihno is high, he makes so many people happy with the way he played.
Ronaldinho is the only player i seen play professional football like its a fun game not a sport or competition..the guy never underachieved, passing the ball with his back and all that jazz 😅😂
Shaka so happy to be outta the house…I think it’s cuz ppl thought u coulda played longer but at his peak no one even in the stratosphere…I get what Luis is saying is why that argument is so good because both were so talented…Shaka about the ball control best futsal player
Neymar. Ronaldinho achieved more important trophies ballon dr, World Cup and was the the world entertainer even rivals loved him and smiled at him, he wasn’t diving like Neymar does, that’s why I hate when people compare Ronaldinho was joy
Easy to say Ronaldinho because he was more or less finished after leaving Barca and he should have had at least a couple more years of brilliance but he let himself go. Neymar slightly gets the nod for me because of his lack of success with the NT.
Although Ronaldinho had GOAT level talent he still achieved and won a lot in football. I think he would everything he was supposed to at club and International level. The only thing missing was the length of his peak. It should have been much longer.... Neymar on the otherhand could have been at ronaldo and messi level but he didn't kick on after moving to PSG. The main reason he moved was that a team could be built around him. Didnt work out. Neymar was the bigger let down
If Neymar spent more time upright, it might be closer. But Ronaldinho was a far superior player and the esteem that he is held in by teammates and opposition alike.....I'd much rather have his career.
I will say this again ESPN is getting a problem being a 24/7 news thing, they constantly bring up lousy debates.., now imagine saying Ronaldinho underachieved
The only way you could say Ronaldinho underachieved is if you make the argument that his talent should have put him as GOAT. Which I guess you could argue. However even then, Neymar underachieved wayyy more. Ronaldinho won every trophy imaginable…wc balon dor etc etc.
Indeed, all about how one interprets the question I guess. Prime Ronaldinho is better than prime Messi, so if he produced that for most of his career then he would be the GOAT.
