HAPPY TUESDAY! 🥰 - AHH! OMG!! THIS VIDEO IS SO JUICY YOU CAN’T MISS A MINUTE OF IT 🤭❤️ There is a “random theory” somewhere in the middle of this video AND YALL NEED TO HEAR IT! Let me know your thoughts + theories below! ✨🐞
What about Master Fu? People say Master Fu didn't forget his memory and is secretly working with hawkmoth because he is a selfish person as he didn't use the miraculouses for WW2 or WW1 and he didn't take proper training. Also, he used the peacock miraculous for his own wish and it ate all the miraculouses meaning somewhere deep inside him he wanted to extinct the jewels. So, that means that he did have evil intentions and could of kept them up and set out his plans by using Ladybug and Cat Noir. He could of regained his memory when Ladybug did Miraculous Ladybug as Alya says in the Mr Pigeon 72 episode "You set your own limits (Ladybug)" . Also I think this because in most of the episodes Master Fu is speckled around somewhere like he is supervising Hawkmoth. So, this means that when Hawkmoth/ Shadowmth is doing something foolish or is trying something wild Master Fu could of taken the miraculouses/miraculous of him and used it for his need which could be uniting with his family or gaining bak his childhood as that has been his intention all along as we have seen in the Feast episode. This is my theory:) Pls Sub to my channel!
Yes, I also think so. Lila's heart is really cruel but hawk moth is not really cruel, because hawk moth has to be cruel only for his love.His love is really true.(though it is wrong way to get his love back). And I don't think that lila has any place in her heart for love.she does not have any love for anybody ever. So, I think she will be the future hawk moth. 🤔🤔 But I'm not totally sure about that.
Me too!! In fact, I ship Lila and Felix together! They would be SO POWERFUL and Lila basically gets Adrien, but in her own style!! Match made in HEAVEN!
Theory: In one of the episodes i cant remember which one but i know that Bunnix says that one of the villains that they beat is the name of Missouri Rat sorry don't know how to spell it. and when the superheros say for him to find a new animal besides a pigeon he finds a RAT so i have a feeling that he will get acumatized into that villain. his name is Mr. Ramier
@@anonymoususer2056 Lila here is read as a variant of Lilla, that is lilac, both the flower and a shade of purple. Rossi (plural) = red but it is a surname just to indicate a person in speech: Mario Rossi equivalent of John Smith in English
Another reason why Adrien won't be the holder of the the butterfly miraculous is bc as we see in time tagger , ladybug and cat noir still appear to have their miraculouses and I know that they will still be the same ladybug and chat noir because the suit looks the exact same one as chat noir and if there will be another holder of the black cat miraculous the suit changes . How do I think that the suits will change ? The awnser is simple , when marinette used the mouse miraculous she had a different suit then Mylene , we know that mylene is going to be the next mouse holder bc Jeremy zag shared a photo of all the girl miraculous holders that we will see in season 4 and her suit is different than marinette's . It's just a theory hope u liked it :)
Alya's twin sisters being the twin queens is pretty obvious if you think about it because they are the only pair of twins in the entire series. Also, it makes sense that Lila is going to be the next Hawk Moth because she already has an alliance with the current one because Gabriel is grooming her (yes, I will use that word because it fits) to be on his side. Also, the creators put everything in the show for a reason, so Lila babysitting the present-day version of timetagger would be foreshadowing. On top of that, Lila is one of the very few people that hate Ladybug and wish for her defeat.
While Lila is probably going to be the next Hawk Moth. I want to know what she plans to do with the miraculous. Sure she would want to defeat them but I want something more then “I just wanna see them fail!” Sure she can take over the world but I feel like she would go the extra mile. Also poor Nooroo! He doesn’t caught a break!
Nah, its way too obvious to be her, besides she would be more likely to steal the fox miraculous instead of the butterfly miraculous since the fact that she wants the fox miraculous,
Ok, but since Timetagger looks like he's an older teenager, does that mean in Season 5/Season 6 there will be a time jump? If Hawkmoth isn't defeated by the end of the series, then that isn't a great end. And we know Ladybug and Cat Noir keep fighting into adulthood as shown in Timetagger as well. So there has to be a time jump so we can see the new Hawkmoth defeated, otherwise it's just going to end horribly and we won't really get an ending.
But I want Emily to finally be back after all the miraculous are in the box or something. It cannot end sad for gabriel and Adrien. I think Thomas has a good plot.
the next hawkmoth idea could be something that could happen in season 6, so far it's very likely the plot right now will resolve in season 5 and the movie comfirms it will use the s5 ending so these ideas are probably dependant on if this show can keep going after it's initial ending
If s 5 and s6 will be a time jump maybe lb and cn will revail ther true indetities to eachother at the end of season 4 if they defeat the hawkmoth we have now . And Maybe gabriel will pass the miraculous to lila and he will get arrested since creators said that every ep of s4 is based on cat blanc Im not sure tho And sorry for the bad english hope you understand me
What if for a plot twist Alya became the new Hawkmoth? I watched Timetagger again and noticed a few things. It would be mind blowing, but here is why I said plot twist. 1. When Bunnix named some of the new villians Ignoblia(evil twin sister of Majestia ( Alya mentioned Majestia when she first met Marinette), Eclyptinvaders (they remind me of the Sapotis that Alya sisters turned in to), Timetagger ( Nino's brother Chris) Pain and Tears ( I'm thinkings they're Alya's sisters) each of these villains have a connection with Alya and Nino. 2. In the Sapotis episode when Alya was given the fox miraculous and became Rena Rouge she said that she looked just like Lila did and Ladybug said yes, but the hero version. So my thing is in the episode where Adrien became Cat Walker, Plagg had stated to Adrien that when your personality changes so does your costume, so is it possible that Lila and Alya have a connection that we haven't seen yet? Because when Alya became Ladybug she didn't look like or have the same appearance as Marinette, but when she put on the fox miraculous she looked exactly like Lila. The same can be said about Adrien and Luka with the snake miraculous and Chloe and Zoe with the bee miraculous each used it, but looked totally different from the other. 3. In the Optigami episode at the end of the episode Gabriel said to Natalie that they were going to take a special interest into Alya. How do we know that they haven't already? 4. Now I'm not sure, but I think by now Alya knows how Marinette feels about Lila, so I found it odd that Lila would be babysitting. I also found it odd that she told Marinette that a friend was babysitting for her. So when did Alya and Lila become friends? 5. I always wondered why Adrien hasn't ever confided in Nino and reveal that he's Cat Noir to Nino? The same way Marinette confided in Alya and revealing that's she ladybug. I know I'm reaching, but Alya or Nino as the new Hawkmoth would be a plot twist no one would expect.
Just remember that Felix is a “master thief/ magician” there is a chance that he could have stolen Gabriel Agreste’s miraculous by hugging him or some other interaction
Hey you know maybe he steals that one or the peacock possibly both, and somehow he and Lila end up working together, because honestly Lila doesn’t genuinely like Adrien she just like how cute he is or how famous he is, maybe she’ll go for Felix? 👀 or maybe it’s like they want the wish to do something else for themselves be it that crazy theory about Maybe to bring adrien’s Mom and/or Felix’s dad back idk. Maybe Gabriel just loses possession of it.
I believe it's probably Lila, but to be fair Felix's entire motive is stealing jewelry from his uncle, for all we know Felix's and Adrien's parents might have known of the miraculous, meaning Felix's mother may have told him about the powerful accessories
wow this is perfect timing i just recommended ur channel to someone and said u post spoilers and theories pretty quickly and then i exited out of that video and see this LMAO
i don't imagine Chloe being evil tbh she is a big fan of ladybug and i see her doing the right thing by giving it to ladybug in hopes ladybug trust's her with the bee miraculous
It will definitely be Lila. And if you look closely Chris and Lilac have the same mask in their room. A black and white. So I believe that Chris will also help Lila
@@TheMayaBShow Gabriel is currently unifying the butterfly and peacock as Le Papillombre (Shadow Moth in the English version, Sombra Traça in the european portuguese version, and Sombradóptero in the castilian spanish version. for some reason, disney channel spain and disney channel portugal air s4 episodes on the same day, where they air their respective versions as well as the english version.)
I feel like Lila is the obvious choice and I love the idea of Lila and Felix teaming up. HOWEVER, Felix is more in the middle (at least that’s how I see him). Like he will work with the good guys if it benefits him and he will work with the bad guys if it benefits him. So I’m not too sure about him yet. I do have a wild thought that it could be one of (present) Hawk Moths victims. For example, Manon. HEAR ME OUT ! It could make sense. Yes she is a child who can be selfish like most children, but she loved being puppeteer, she has this thing about “winning” and has temper tantrums when she doesn’t get her way. And she and Chris are not that far in age so 💁🏽♀️ or it could be someone we haven’t met yet who will develop a hatred for either Ladybug OR Cat Noir. Everyone is always after ladybug so maybe the next Hawk Moth will be a woman/girl with some vendetta again him. But even after all of that, I always come back to Lila 😂 idk we still have a couple more seasons (hopefully the show will be renewed for more seasons) and we can continue guessing !!
I HAVE A BIG THEORY TOO yes we can confirm that there will be a new hawk moth, but will there be a peacock miraculous holder? MAYBE just MAYBE ladybug and cat noir get the peacock miraculous, and gabriel was scared to lose his, so he gave it up to lila while the peacock miraculous goes to someone idk who it’s would go to😀
Why do I feel like Lila will get the peacock miraculous because duusu is the kwami of emotion and Lila is the master of manipulating others using emotion!!
I know that if Lila is hawkmoth the reveal would have already happened. Knowing that she has lost Adrien, Lila might create a centi-monster to be her love and partner in crime. But maybe if a centi-monster is alive for too long, the peacock miraculous becomes damaged. Hoping to fix it, Lila destroys the centi-monster but the Miraculous remains broken
Only way that Phyllis is going to get a miraculous if he steals it just like he did with one of the rings he's a very cunning person and I'm really hoping to see him again.
The thing is though, the episode timetagger suggests Mr Ramier would turn into "Misseur Rat" but ladybug gave him a lucky charm so he can't be akumatized.
Maybe he has a secret twin lol, nah maybe he loses it somehow, maybe the pigeons get jealous because he starts hanging with the rats so they take it or maybe the rats take it to get the pigeons on trouble. Lol why did I do a theory of this ha
As you said lila is most likely to be the next hawkmoth and that she is very clever I think she is going to be the next hawk-moth because she knows Gabriel's identity and she helps help frequently and hates ladybug I think she is helping him because she wants him to trust her and force lila and adrien to date or hangout or be friends so I think that one of the reason she helping him and wants adrien to fall for her (ewww) it is a just a theory it might be one of the reasons she helps him
I feel like Lila being the next Shadowmoth/Hawkmoth is the most accurate but i also feel like they wouldn't make it that obvious because the creators seem to make it obvious sometimes its a whole other plot twist
In many ways, Lila would make the most sense. I actually thought that Gabriel might have given the peacock to Lila to test out before using it himself, which would have really made things interesting. As for the others, the only one that makes any sense would be possibly Emilie but again, I’m not sure this happens. Now as to how Gabriel loses the butterfly miraculous is something I think needs to be explored. I don’t think that it will be because he succeeds in bringing Emilie back. If I was going to bet, it would be that Lila (or Felix) steals it.
I think Natalie wouldn't be able to steal the butterfly miraculous, but I have my own theory she should betray Gabriel, possibly for him not showing any affection towards her to the point where he may have stomped on her heart, and in theory she would somehow steal the peacock miraculous back from him and be on her own as her own villain or maybe a anti-hero. After all, Timetagger never referred to his Hawkmoth as Shadowmoth, which is the current one's name now that he unified his and the peacock miraculous. Which tells me that either the new Hawkmoth has a new peacock ally, or that they don't have the peacock miraculous in general, either because Natalie/Mayura was caught, that she is still around, or maybe she has vanished with the miraculous going with her. It's a rather crazy theory, but I always like to think big.
Essentially the hok moth of the future is the sandow moth that is again Gabriel Agrest. I know because I've seen the fourth season. I say this so that those who have not yet seen it know. Everything about the time the video came out (before the release of the 4th season) the theories were very good. Well done!!! ❤❤❤
Ok but are we NOT gonna question the villain who is the daughter of Magestia; either they go back to New York, or it’s Alya because Alya is obsessed with Magestia... and in Gang of Secrets she never got a charm..
OMG!!!! I have my faith in lila becoming the next hawk moth and Felix the peacock🎉🎉 So so excited to watch the upcoming episodes ❤️ Keep rocking maya B show❤️ ur channel is the best for miracalous ladybug ❤️ Keep on uploading more videos of MLB😊.. love watching those🙂🙂
Emilie fell in to a coma because the peacock miraculous is broken so when she used it she fell into a coma The peacock miraculous makes Natalie sick so yes Emilie fell into a coma
Ok I have a weird but possible Theory I think Marinette because she can use a peacock/ butterfly miraculous for good reason in the future Like if Adrien took Emile's Place or if they defeat Hawk moth and get the peacock and butterfly an use for good so ya that's my Theory
I think it is Emile is gonna come back but Gabriel is dead now that was the price. Reluctantly Natalie gives her the butterfly and peacock so she becomes dark moth.
coming in months later, just watched some of the new episodes of miraculous, before reading please note this is a bit of a spoiler. felix does get the peacock. marinette mistakenly gives felix the dog miraculous mistaking him for adrien, the power felix has is if he touches his ball to anything it will bring it to him. long story short he touched ladybug’s yo-yo and hawk moth trades the peacock miraculous for the yo-yo with all the other miraculous’ in the yo-yo.
Thomas himself said that everything that happens in the show is for a purpose, so that last scene of timetagger with Lila and Chris is not a coincidence at all
I feel like it would be interesting to see something more complicated happening with the future hawk moth Lila would be to obvious so I would like to see someone close to Adrien or marinette be hawk moth Like someone in there class or maybe luka they need to have the brain cells to do this and being close to everyone makes it easier to manipulate them Lila doesn’t have marinette’s or adriens trust so they would get suspicious but someone like luka not because, they trust him marinette went out with him and adrien finds him ok so winning trust is easier. Also he is julika’s brother which would make it even more likely to be easy because Julika would protect him and try to make the others like him. She doesn’t help him on purpose Luka is smart so I think it would be cool to see him as hawk moth This is just my opinion.
imagine that when adrien finds out that hawkmoth is his dad he decides to join him but no to revive emelie but for another purpose? idk i am probably imaginating things, i just would love to see our sunshine boy be the villain
I recommend watching a video as to why Alya would become the next hawkmoth bc depending who you watch they could give you really good reasons as to why she would fit in the role. Honestly i didnt think she would until i started watching and reading theories to why she would become the next hawk moth, anyway great video I just found your channel and im trying to watch all your theory videos
Quite sure that Gabriel wouldn't pass his miraculous to anyone, not even Lyla. But I still think Lyla maybe the next hawk moth. As, that necklace she wears... Belongs to Alya.. If Alya takes The fox miraculous, then what miraculous will Lyla have? So there is a chance she might get hawkmoth's miraculous in the future.
@@pranay2778 Rena Rouge appears before Lila does, so I'm guessing she just got a mimick or something I don't really know the explanation I just know that it was fake
@@lordpanic5445 no she bought a fake miraculous at the jewelry store if you look closely on the episode... lila was akumatized became volpina have same powers as Rena rouge but Rena came in season 2. Rena even mention " i look like lila when she was akumatized " ladybug said " but in the superhero verison " .
@@pranay2778 she stole the book and went to the jewelry store to pretend its a real miraculous to impress Adrien to make him think she's a superhero because he stole the miraculous illustration from Gabriel ( which is hawk moth ) lila saw it and took it from him.
When i saw the thumbnail, i fell off my bed. 1st theory: Hawk moth..: If Lila is going to be the next hawkmoth... she will have power to, AKUMATIZE MARINETTE!!!, get more people akumatized, and maybe even get adrien, but im pretty sure that when everybody knows that Adrien's father is hawkmoth, they will need a new hawkmoth, and who might that be??? LILA. 2nd theory: Mayura..: If Felix would be Mayura... lila and felix would create a powerful bond and could make more dangerous akumatized people, but hopefully, if ladybug is lost, Will Adrien/Chat noir have to use it!??!?! it could be extremely dangerous for Adrien, and could make him faint, or even create scars....But what if that happens to Felix? Will he get any serious painful effect and die like Adrien's mother? Or will Adrien/Chat noir die and feel pain? And now my final theory... EMILY AGRESTE.......: What if Emily actually started the whole "Peacock Damage" Thing. Was Emily actually the villain?!?? Did she force Adrien's dad to do it??!!?!?!? Emily Agreste could actually come back alive and be the new villain....Remember when Plagg got that big ring stuck on him? Well, Plagg did say that if u transform while its on... the miraculous will get all damaged, so did that happen to the Peacock Miraculous? We will have to find out this is just my theory, it could happen....
Your theories are so good, I’ve never been so excited to see new episodes before. You make everything so fun!!! I definitely can see Lila being the next hawk moth in the future. Not to mention, she actually is smart and mischievous, unlike hawk moth. 🧲🎈🚨🐞
it wouldn't possibly be adrien since again at that episode timetagger when bunnix gave "mini bug's" lucky charm/plan to the older ladybug, the older ladybug was with cat noir while chris is still akumatized.
I would like (and I really hope) that the next Hawkmoth is Felix and the next Mayura is Lila. It would be quite interesting to see them that way, although if it happens the other way around, I wouldn't mind, but I would like Felix to be the next bearer of the butterfly miraculous and Lila the one with the peacock :3
Peacocks are male and there's nothing particularly masculine about butterflies so I see no reason the genders of the next miraculous holders couldn't swap.
I think Lila would be perfect for the butterfly miraculous because she's good at manipulating people and Felix would be a good fit for the peacock miraculous because he's good at manipulating objects (i.e. at slight of hand). I could totally see Lila saying just the right thing to put her victim in the right frame of mind to get akumatized without anyone being able to pin it on her, and Felix using sentimonsters for misdirection to distract the heroes and send them down the wrong path. They would make Gabriel and Natalie look like amateurs by comparison.
@@jenniferdoetzel3329 I´m sorry, but I´ve never thought that peacocks are female and butterflies are males. I just said my opinion on who I prefer to wear which miraculous and how I imagine them. That's why I said: It would be quite interesting to see them that way, although if it happens the other way around, I wouldn't mind. Anyway, let us remember that they are two characters in which we must delve deeper into their history (especially Felix) and once we know well how they really are, there we will be able to see how everything is going to develop and what miraculous it would be well to each one, let's not assume anything yet c:
@@barbaraantonellalalia911 No offense intended at all. I just wanted to attach my own thoughts to a comment that already had upvotes. You are right that the other way around would be very interesting too and that neither character has had enough screentime yet for us to truly know them, especially not Felix. If there are specific reasons why you prefer Lila as the peacock and Felix as the butterfly, I would be curious to hear them.
@@jenniferdoetzel3329 Oh, don´t worry, I didn´t feel offense at all, I just said that I´ve never thought that peacocks are for women and butterflies are for men :3. I think that your opinios are cool, because I also think that Lila is manipulative and Felix thinks and calculates everything very coldly and exactly. I believe that when they will have those miraculous (if they have it XD) they´ll be doing bad things with people and also using the miraculous to their advantage. I think that will be the difference between Gabriel with Nathalie and Felix with Lila. PS: I would love that Felix take care of Nooroo and Lila take care of Duusu... OR THE OTHER WAY AROUND, IT DOESN´T MATTER XDXDXD
@@13tkdgirl Yes,technically since it's a kids show she can't like kill them,but Lila would if she could.At first,she wanted Adrien,but all she wants is power now.
@@thehandlover7492 Completely agree with your reply. It was the reason why i didn't think she'd be the next hawkmoth. However, if you saw the optigami episode, the new Style Queen was getting rid of the other holders. Would that be considered killing them? Not sure, but it looked liked it a tiny bit.
@@13tkdgirl I think I saw that episode,can't remember well,but I think it can be considered killing,the creators and writers could kill some characters,but do it in the LEAST graphic way possible,and child friendly.
yeah she is that evil she can do anything worst than this and if she knows about optagmi sure enough she will spy on marrinette and her identity will be done
I know when felix changed into adrien and ladybug gave him dog miraculous then he toughed the yo yo with ball and bought near gabriel he took all the miraculous even dog then felix took the peacock miraculous iam sure he can handel tohe peacock miraculous
I don't know why but I think that Alya could also be the next hawk moth, Although I don't have a valid reason for that , But still I do think that she could be the next holder of Butterfly miraculous.
felix would make a great peacook thing :D he's so elegent it will match the peacook lol pea-cook ok anyway! people already started shiping lila with felix .-w-.
Maybe the peacock miraculous might be the main villain I mean we don’t know anything and I mean mayura works alone sometimes so Hawkmoth might be doing this alone
Theory: Adrien is a senti-monster created by Emily. As we know, Emily did use the broken peacock miraculous. Maybe, she created a senti-monster (Adrien)...He will follow whatever Emily will say. When Emily died, there was no one to control him. In wishmaker, when chat noir was struck, he said - he wants to be what his parents want him to be...That's what a senti-monster would say! 🧐 He also said that - I didnt want to be anything when I was young...and as ladybug said - every person have something they wanted to be something when they were kid... So, Adrien didn't have any dream because he was a senti-monster, he was controlled and didn't have feelings and thought, worked, saw the way Emily wanted him to...when she died, he was free... In an episode, ladybug's senti-monster was created and she became free became free when the object with the feather was brocken, she started to have her opinion and started to gain feelings... And I think, the lucky charm that mari gave to Adrien, is where the feather went when Emily created him....if u look closely, the symbol on the bracelet is similar to the symbol on the miracle box !...isn't that strange?...tell me wht u guys think about my theory??
I think in season 5 or 6, hawk moth will be replaced with Lila OR Felix and the other could be the peacock miraculous holder. I think felix because he was being manipulative in the episode felix.That’s all I can think of!
According to the episode: Timetagger it looked like a teenager, then when Ladybug de-akumatized him it turned out that that person was older Chris. Like you said… if Gabriel had won the battle between ladybug and chat noir, and Emilie came back to life, she could be the next hawk moth to bring Gabriel back if he died. But as we all know Felix’s dad died and he might be the next hawk moth to bring his father back… + He got the Twin rings from Gabriel. and then again we have: Lila. Now Lila is very manipulative.. but if she were to be the next hawk moth then wish would she make..? We all haven’t seen Lila’s dad anywhere, so could her father be in a coma like Emilie? Dead?! Or just somewhere like an army. Let’s talk about Lila again, we know she’s a liar and all that kind of stuff. But could she be the next Mayura..? And could Felix be the next Hawk moth? I personally think that the way those two are so similar besides felix being a liar/Manipulate people. But just there personality’s are a bit different but what does everyone else think?! (To those who read my theory thank you :))
I think lila might use hawk moth's miraculous to wish for her to spend more time with her parents cause in one of the episodes we see that lila's mother never has time to spend with her and she is always alone
Yes, for now Lilia is the most likey character to become the next hawkmoth but i also think it is possible for Felix to become one too. Even though we don't see any good bonding between Gabriel and Felix "yet", they might have a closer bond in the future episodes and seasons, as it is likely for Felix to reappear again in future episodes. This is because both of the characters are similar such as they both are manipulative, mysterious and shady so they might be able to relate to each other and have a closer bond ("might" even closer than his own son Adrien). At that time, will Gabriel give his moth miraculous to a total stranger, Lilia or his nephew, Felix who is just like a mini version of him. Also, if Gabriel and Felix became closer is the case, it is possible for both Lilia and Felix to become future holders of moth and peacock miraculous ( not sure who will get which). AND THEM WORKING TOGETHER? WOULD BE A GREAT PAIR OF UNSTOPPABLE BADASS VILLIANS!!!
you’re so fast with the theories!! you got yourself a new subscriber ☺️! but i hope there will be a time skip because it doesn’t make any sense that the show will show ladybug and chat noir as adults and not go any further with that. why would they end the show without a happy ending? it’s not exactly common for kids shows. then again it is definitely possible to have a bad ending. I’m putting my bets on Felix will be the next hawkmoth ONLY BECAUSE he has a very strong vendetta against the agreste family and ladybug and chat noir. we already know that mari and adrien will get married in the end and have their kids and everything. so maybe there will be a time skip?? i really hope so.
There’s a theory that says that Juleka will be the next hawk moth! Because sadly Rose dies from that illness she has (guiltrip has more info about that), and Juleka tries to get Ladybug’s and Chatnoir’s Miraculouses to bring her back :( Love Your Vids!
