I just hope CH-R don't get discontinued because of the Corolla Cross. They are certainly both great, but the Corolla Cross just look like any others cars with no real personality. Toyota should only have improve the CH-R with slightly more powerful engine and an AWD version. No need for a new model.
I would easily & happily choose the Yaris Cross (or latest TNGA Yaris hatch) over either the C-HR or the Corolla Cross - but those options aren't offered here in the US market, so I'm not buying a Toyota in 2022. I would also rate my 2020 Corolla SE sedan 6-MT a 6.5/10 ownership experience compared to my 2015 Yaris SE hatch 5-MT at a 9/10 experience. Going to say goodbye to my Corolla in 2022.
They both need more power. Even if they did have more power, I probably wouldn’t consider buying either because they are too small. I perfer RAV4 Hybrid.
The CH-R rides so smoothly and handles beautifully. I would buy this vehicle in a second if I was a single person, but it isn't ideal for a family. it would be perfect if the backseat were slightly more spacious and the windows were slightly bigger. Also, a moon roof wouldn't hurt.
Thanks Marcelo for making this excellent and informative video, I drive a 2019 C-HR and honesltly and happy with it but when I saw the new Corolla Cross wanted it see comparsion and after seeing your video and althogh I have not driving the Corolla Cross I would agree that for me the C-HR is a better option. Thanks for taken the time and keeping us informed and Happy Holidays!
I like both of these cars but I’m leaning towards the C-HR because it’s very stylish, priced right, and would be the perfect car for me as I don’t need a speedy car or all wheel drive, just a car that gets me from point a to point b. I’m a short person so headroom and front space wouldn’t be an issue for me.
Excellent. Well presented. As an owner of a CHR and never driven a cross, your explanation is what I anticipated. Iam sure the CHR would have a sportier feel. The factor I was wondering is the multilink suspension on CHR vs fwd cross torsion beam. Lastly I much prefer the higher bolster and closer gear shifter on chr rather than lower shifter. To each is own.
@@ToyotaWorld Yes I remember seeing the bronze coloured chr that you reviewed. You always praised CHR. Do you feel much difference in suspension? How CHR handle bumps vs Cross factoring the torsion beam version of the cross?
How are you liking your Cross? I have a 22 Camry SE, and have to trade it in. The driver's seat is killing me unfortunately. When I sat in the CC , it seemed much nicer. Any thoughts? Thank you!
@@staceys1870 I went from a 2020 Camry XLE to the Corolla Cross. The seats in the Corolla are very comfortable, but the Camry had so much more power. You really have to get on the gas. Other than the lack of power, I really like it so far. I'm currently averaging 31mpg in mixed driving.
@@BradHallowell81 Thank you so much!!! I completely understand what you mean by the lack of power in the Cross. UGH!! Do you feel the Cross' driver seat is a bit more plush? For some reason, I thought so, but not sure now. Thank you!
My retired father ordered his 2022 Toyota CH-R Limited (Red) today, it will arrive from Japan in roughly 2 months, he didn't like the front end on RAV4 or Corolla Cross.
One question have you used the sport function and manual shift on the chr. Try it because it feed a need for speed. I know how to drive a manual car and the chr sport function is made for manual shifting. If you know what ur doing u can even reduce the loud engine some. I think it’s one reason there’s no manual parking brake. If I had a manual parking &brake using the sport function I’d Tokyo drift. Lol not for real GREAT VIDEO 👍🏽 I have 2020 In Bflo NY so far no complaints I do recommend snow tires for winter months but haven’t needed AWD
WOW how true is that. There is a certain way to shift and reducing gas pedal or release then accelerate again with no engine noise and better shift points. .
I'm waiting for a C-HR. In Europe you have this car with HSD Hybrid power train. The most powerful has a 152 HP petrol engine and a 110 HP electric motor and the combined power is 184 HP. The car can accelerate 0-62 mph in 8,2 s. So I think there is not lack of power as in the US version.
I've been wanting a CH-R ever since they came out in 2016 and honestly, I wouldn't mind adding a moonroof to it after I buy it! It would look amazing with one!
My wife and I bought a 2021 C-HR XLS a few months ago. We love the way it looks and the feel of it while driving. However, I am not happy with the lack of power. I do not understand why Toyota chose to put such an underpowered powertrain in such an otherwise wonderful vehicle. 144HP is barely enough to move this thing when getting on the freeway, even in Sport mode. It's good enough for city driving, and it gets great gas mileage at speed on longer distance trips, but it really feels blah when trying to get up to speed. A Camry engine in this bad boy would've been perfect. I average about 24mpg in the city, but more like 37-39 on the highway, and I always drive in Sport mode because Normal and ECO modes are way too sluggish. Also, why does it stay in Normal or ECO when starting the car, but if I turn off the car while it's Sport mode, it reverts back to Normal or ECO when I start the car? There doesn't seem to be any way to set it to be in Sport mode when starting the car. It's a minor issue, but still an annoyance. There is also nowhere to put a phone while it's plugged in other than the ill-placed cup holder under the dash. It makes no sense in this day and age to do that (nor to put a cup holder under the dash in the first place). There's a little shelf under there but it's not wide enough for a Galaxy S21+; we use it for our garage door opener (because the sun visor is so thick that a standard clip will not fit on it). Cargo space is nice. The rear seats fold down for the back, which is why we got this instead of the Corolla hatch, which seems to lack any real usable space as a hatchback. The rear seats aren't exactly roomy for passengers, but I've been back there at 5'10" and it's not terrible. Just not a ton of space in front of my knees, which would be an issue for long distances. tl;dr Great car for comfort, looks, driving feel, gas mileage. Bad car for power, some poor console design choices. Happy with the purchase overall, even if Toyota did fleece us for an extra $2000 due to "inventory shortages". Not sure why I had to pay extra because THEY are short on inventory. MSRP is a thing for a reason.
I feel the exact same way. I only drive it on sport mode and the first thing I do when starting the car is switch it to Sport mode. Always. I agree with you, even the Sport mode lacks power and feels like you're dragging something on the road. With this said, I simply never use Normal and ECO modes. Not a good driving experience in my opinion. I also get very annoyed with the lack of a proper space for my cell phone, and the cup holder under the dash is just unpractical. Too many times I've spilled drinks trying to get cups in and out of that holder specifically. Despite all of this, I really like the looks of this car and enjoy driving it. If it wasn't for the lack of power I'd never consider replacing it.
Great comparison. For me is it C-HR all the way. I love the car so much I bought one. It is my family car and my daily and it actually fits in my garage. I really feel like Toyota created something special with this car. In some ways, it reminds me of a lifted Honda CRX but more practical. I used to own a CRX and loved that car. My old CRX was relatively inexpensive, stylish, small, got great MPGs and had great driving dynamics and was reliable. I think all this is why I chose the C-HR because it also has all those qualities I also love the fact the C-HR has 3 drive modes, Eco, Normal & Sport and they actually feel different. It is like I have 3 cars in one. With my C-HR I went ahead and bought the Toyota TRD Air Intake Kit and the TRD Lowering Springs from my dealer to squeeze out even more performance from the car and I fit my C-HR with Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires. It helps that the chief engineer of this generation of the C-HR was a race car driver and fine tuned the C-HR on the Nürburgring in Germany. So sad Toyota discontinued this C-HR here in the US because a GR variant with a 6 speed manual and the 300 horse power 3 cylinder turbo from the GR Corolla would have made a fine addition to the GR family of cars. I feel the new C-HR in Europe is getting away from what made this car special especially in the performance department and relatively low price point. With that said, I plan on keeping my C-HR "TRD" for a long time and being a Toyota, I will be able to.
Corolla Cross because the CHR is still small for me especially the big seats. And it’s a bit slow and don’t even offer AWD. So the new Corolla Cross wins for me.
If you have already purchased your CC, can you tell me how comfortable the driver's seat is after a long drive? I have a 2022 Camry SE, and the driver's seat is killing me!! Any thoughts?
Thank you for sharing this video, I get my new CHR next week, hopefully, because I’ve been waiting almost month. I didn’t even know about the Corolla Cross until recently, but I really didn’t have an interest mainly because of the outside look. I’m a little nervous because I do commute to work from Indiana to Illinois I don’t need a sports car, but I’m hearing this doesn’t even have the power of a Camry. My best and favorite car was a Camry Solara and I so dislike that they don’t make them anymore. I also was not aware of “inventory shortages” fees, I’m definitely going to bring this up to my salesman.
#511 checking in... update: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-yBBQ2sSy9xs.html (this one i like) Happy ThanksGiving I really enjoyed the video comparison... love the color of the CHR... am waiting to see model 2022! rumor is hybrid and 4 wheel drive... but we shall see soon... take care, 'Chris'
Hi Marcelo, is the CHR coming out for 2022? I just heard a rumor that they will be discontinued, is that true? Because that’s the model I really like and looking forward to have for 2022. Also when you make a comparison can you please select the same year and model both 2021 or better 2022 if available for the mid model.. LE or higher? And can you please mention the Ticket List Price in US? Thanks! ;)
For me there’s no comparison the Corolla has no style or personality and already looks mainstream old the C-HR is leap’s and bounds more stylish sporty we’ve had our for 4 years and we’ve just ordered a new one for September I can’t praise it enough we’ve had a full range of vehicles over the years including a Range Rover evoque VWs etc etc and for easy driving the sporty look this wins hands down for me 👍
I wish the CHR had some more features like the Cross. I have a 2020 CHR Limited, but I would love AWD, remote start, moonroof, heated steering wheel, etc.
The chr is way better looking and have an smooth in Europe chr is 4wheel drive turbo so I don’t know why they replacing that new ugly garbage fish looking Corolla cross 🤦♂️
Great comparison! The Corolla Cross is more mainstream and functional compared to CHR. Do you know in which country the drivetrain (transmission/engine) are assembled for the Corolla Cross (USA or Japan?). Keep up the vids.
I think the chr is made in turkey no? I live in Sweden and ordered a chr gr sport 2.0L. and it's being manufactured in turkey, it's on the boat on its way here right now. Could be different for the US market though.
@@rojjter9721 yes you are right about the European ones, not sure about the U.S. I ordered in Jan, evidently May before I get mine. They did say 5 months. Hope you love yours when you finally get it.
@@vvt2257 Traditionally in the UK, brake horsepower (bhp) has been the go-to measure of a car’s power. While hp does not take into account frictional losses in power from an engine, brake horsepower does - meaning hp is always higher than bhp. The difference between the two is small on a 1:1 basis. 1hp is the equivalent to just under 0.99bhp, though scaled up you’ll notice differences. For example, a car with 300hp would then have 296bhp.
Chr’s trunk space is extremely spacious for it’s size. A road-trip from Jersey to Florida. There were 4 people in my car (including myself). Which means 4 baggages and couple other things that fit just right.
In April 2024, I am still in love with my 2021 Toyota C-HR XLE. She's cute in the Magnetic Gray Mertalic. Once I lay the back seats down I have all the storage space I need. I sat in the back once and will never do that again. So now my only passenger/ driver is my 5'9", 15 yr old. This C-HR was a great learn to drive car for him. Buying gas doesn't hurt my pocket. I just wish my C-HR parked for me. And again I stress she's cute. I don't like the outter body design style of the Corolla Cross.
POINT is MPG … and diff models of the Cross’s performance implies wheel size is critical … therefore toyotas should stick to 16 inch for all models maximising mpg beyond competitors reach …. and if necessary redesign styling to maximise style looks
i have het 2021 chr luxury with runing flikers and its amazing 1.2 l turbo180km/h in eco mode and if i switch it to sport it goes i love it wil only trade my C-HR for a hybrid C-HR its a amazing car my soul are at rest with my C-HR
Toyota cross for country driving and flood zones better chance of making it through. You can always add to the exterior if you want a sportier look after market. As a trend a second or 3rd generation might have a sportier package included Later on. Even just a different set of rims would make a big difference.
Other differences I’ve read on the ‘net: C-HR CVTi-S transmission Cross direct shift CVT transmission The curb to curb turning for the C-HR 34.2 ft vs 35.4 ft for the Cross. The rear suspension of the C-HR is multi-link which is supposed to handle better but displaces interior space and is more costly to repair down the road vs the torsion beam of the Cross which may offer a slightly harsher ride and use less interior space. Another site said steel wheels were standard on the base Cross while the base C-HR came with aluminum wheels. That same site said 17 x 6.5 wheels on the Cross and 18 x 7 on the C-HR, which doesn’t help explain why the Cross has higher ground clearance. Cross 8.1 in vs C-HR 5.9 in. The Cross has a 1500 pound towing capacity and one reviewer said it felt cavernous in comparison to the C-HR. A moonroof is an option on the Cross, as well as AWD. One comment mentioned the C-HR is better and more reliable because it doesn’t use direct fuel injection and another site indeed did say it has “Sequential MPI” while the Cross uses “Port/Direct Injection” which at least may alleviate the nasty carbon build-up and shortened lifespan of the engine that direct fuel injection engines have become known for so I’d say the edge for longevity goes to the C-HR but that Sequential MPI also mean a lower HP of 144 vs 169 for the Cross with Port/Direct Injection and slightly better MPG for the Port/Direct Injection Cross. I like the way the C-HR looks but Consumer Reports says 71% of those buyers wouldn’t buy the C-HR again. Three out of five for predicted reliability but owner satisfaction scored one out of five. 0-60 is a slow 11 seconds and poor visibility out the rear/side windows. (9.3 seconds for the Cross) CR: The C-HR is an Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) Top Safety Pick. CR: The Corolla Cross has been awarded an IIHS Top Safety Pick+ due to good crash-test results and a superior rating in front crash prevention. (You can parse it to determine if one is superior to the other as it could mean lower insurance rates) CR: The Cross has LED low beams that provide only “fair” levels of light straight ahead down the road. They don’t give enough light for the driver to adequately see, react, and brake for anything ahead when speeds reach about 60 mph. Sideward visibility was rated at “good,” which is lower than the levels of sideward visibility we typically see with better-performing LED headlights. Sideward visibility can help drivers see pedestrians and wildlife entering from the sides of the road, or in navigating corners. CR: The C-HR standard halogen low beams do a very good job of illuminating the road ahead. This level of low beam performance is impressive and, in this case, particularly important as the automatic high beams add very little in terms of additional seeing distance. CR rates the transmission 3 out of 5 for the Cross and 4 out of 5 for the C-HR. Braking is rated 5 out of 5 for the Cross and 4 out of 5 for the C-HR Oddly CR rated rear seat comfort 3 out of 5 in the Cross and a 4 out of 5 in the C-HR Another oddity was the Cross trunk/cargo area rating 2 out of 5 while giving a 3 out of 5 to the C-HR, which is totally the opposite of what I’ve read. Same with their MPG rating claim of C-HR 19 city, 42 hwy, 29 overall and Cross 21 city, 35 hwy, 28 overall. CR has a smog rating (?) 3 out of 10 for the C-HR and 7 out of 10 for the Cross. Consumer Reports gives the Cross a score of 68 and a lessor score of 59 for the C-HR CR says the 2022 MSRP base range is $22,445-$27,875 for the Cross and $24,280-$27,300 for the C-HR. C-HR is out of stock in the Detroit area but that’s not the case for the Cross so I have to wonder, is the C-HR in high demand or is it being phased out. I’ve read that only the LE trim is being discontinued. The back & forth pro vs con has my head spinning. Reliability is key for me but I’d also like to find the unicorn of utility…wide enough to accept a 48 inch wide sheet of anything. The hunt continues.
Without even watching the video I’d pick the Cross. The CHR is too small to suit me. More importantly I don’t like the way it looks. Never did from the first day I saw it. Now … I’ll watch to video and see if you can change my mind. EDIT: I didn’t see anything that would change my mind. The CHR might be more attractive to the younger crowd who was looking for something more sporty. But at my age not even close. I’m looking for comfort, reliability and the ability to do some travelling. I couldn’t see myself trying to get my three-year-old grandson into the backseat of a CHR in a car seat. Never going to happen! Quite frankly I would be surprised if we even see the CHR in the Toyota lineup in the next couple of years. I can’t honestly say that it would be one of the most popular cars in their lineup as it were.
Majority of the buyers are not young. The car is not designed for family. It's a front end passenger vehicle unique from the all the other vanilla suvs. It's love it or hate it but it sure drives very very well.
@@TheGore2149 Canadian chrs are built in Turkey. In the case of any Toyota, it makes no difference. Their process is the same including Kaizen for every plant. Maybe the engine was built in Japan.
@@moeanthony9308 in the usa the chr comes from japan. like you said i think there all the same but some people swear by japanese built cars.in any case cars last longer than ever before its just a matter of taste imo
@@TheGore2149 True. But in Toyota:s case. Japan no different. The US built Camry has been just as good. Don't let that Japan scenario fool you. In fact the Turkey plant got chr won gold for quality Manufacturing. Many parts come from Japan anyway.
