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Why 20 Franc Gold Coins are AWESOME for Gold Stacking 

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In this video I talk about 20 Franc Gold Coins and why they are AWESOME for Gold Stacking! The European 20 Franc Gold Coin gets most of its value from the gold content in the coin. Each 20 Franc Gold Coin contains .1867 Troy Ounces of Pure Gold. The 20F Gold Coins are 90% Gold which makes them 21.6K. The most common 20 Franc Gold Coins are the France Gold 20 Francs Rooster and the Swiss Gold 20 Francs Helvetia. After the currency treaty was signed in 1865 many other European Countries started making their own versions of the 20 Franc Gold Coin. These Gold Coins are great for Gold Stacking today because they are very liquid and because they can be bought near spot or even below spot! I will be looking for good deals on these in the future and will be trying to acquire the swiss 20 franc gold coin and the french 20 franc gold rooster as well!
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@robendert7617
@robendert7617 4 года назад
I live in Switzerland. Here the Helvetia 20 gold francs, or "Vreneli" as they are nicknamed with affection, are popular, as are the also plentiful French roosters. Compared to newer under 1 ounce gold rounds, they are cheaper. An advantage is that they are as small in diameter as common currency coins. If you have to bail out with gold by plane, you can mix your gold with your small change in your wallet so that the scanner staff of the airport security will not be alarmed as easily as when you would try to slip full 1 ounce gold coins of larger diameter trough.
@brancojeremias5545
@brancojeremias5545 4 года назад
Und falls der Zoll fragt, wieso haben Sie 20x20 Gold Vreneli? Antwort: wieso nicht...sind nur 20Fr/Münze :))
@elpasito
@elpasito 4 года назад
I'm traveling to Basel around July, I will try to find some of this coins :D Do you have any recommendation ?
@brancojeremias5545
@brancojeremias5545 4 года назад
@@elpasito Credit Suisse bank in Basel
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
Rob Endert nice ai love fractional cheap gold compared to 1 ouncers for sure 🔥🐉
@lazarjeremias1421
@lazarjeremias1421 3 года назад
Hoi Rob. Sieht der Scanner echtes Gold auf dem Bildschirm?
@laurencerivet7521
@laurencerivet7521 3 года назад
I'm French and these little 20 Francs gold coins are the most popular, easy to buy and sell gold coins of all. The French 20 Francs gold coin comes in 5 different designs: Napoleon III tête nue (naked head), Napoleon III tête laurée (crowned with laurel), Genius (lucky angel), Marianne-Coq (rooster) and Ceres (Roman goddess) that you've presented.
@Saint696Anger
@Saint696Anger 3 года назад
I have the Napoleon one and looking to buy more
@laurencerivet7521
@laurencerivet7521 3 года назад
@@Saint696Anger It's the right time to buy more, the price of gold is favorable.
@malus1940
@malus1940 2 года назад
I plan on getting my hands on some of the roosters. I find the design of the rooster and Ceres to be beautiful and I really respect the use of the two as the symbols for the French people.
@belloviper
@belloviper 2 года назад
Where do you buy?
@malus1940
@malus1940 2 года назад
@@belloviper Where I am, Monument Metals usually has the best price but you gotta shop around and check to see what all deals are going on on each site
@penguingaming6431
@penguingaming6431 4 года назад
These are the perfect combination between coin collecting and stacking!
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
Penguin Gaming oh yeah and cheap for sure!!! 🔥🐉
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
Penguin Gaming oh yeah and cheap for sure!!! 🔥🐉
@SilverWalker84
@SilverWalker84 3 года назад
Ive picked up alot of these over the years but the 1902 Rooster I got awhile back is still my fav of the bunch because it has absolutely no wear but the toning is unbelievable. It has an almost copper patina that really stands out next to newer gold coins. Francs are great for so many reasons. Great vid
@benoone9573
@benoone9573 4 года назад
I think you´re absolutely right here, collecting the small gold coins from the first European monetary union, also called the Latin European gold union, based on the French 20Fr gold coins. Many countries joined, like you said, a nice variety, and affordable. Other collectibles are of course the British Sovereigns, the German Marks and being Scandinavian, we had a good Scandinavian gold union here too, with gold coins of 8.06 grams of pure gold, so true quarter ounces, less variation but fine for gold stacking. Feels nice in your hand. Most affordable are the Danish 20 kroner, and half of that size, the 10 kroner. 90% pure.
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
Be No yes these are a great option!!! thanks for watching my friend!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🐉
@beaddemon2572
@beaddemon2572 4 года назад
Thanks Silver Dragons. It’s good information for when I can start stacking gold. Always doing my research. 🔥🔥🔥
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
Bead Demon you are welcome and these are a great thing to get when you start! 👍🏽🔥🐉
@michaelwhitt355
@michaelwhitt355 4 года назад
I stack 20 franc pieces. I recently bought a 1oz gold Buffalo and I got a sick feeling in my stomach just because of price. I would much prefer 5-6 gold 20 frank pieces over a 1oz. Plus I love the history.
@polarroller
@polarroller 4 года назад
The .9999 Buffalo is a beautiful coin tho isn't it?
@NYY2009CHAMPS
@NYY2009CHAMPS 4 года назад
well yea I'd prefer 6 also. thats 11% more than 1 oz! 5 not so much!
@michaelwhitt355
@michaelwhitt355 4 года назад
@@polarroller for sure, it's my only 1 oz gold piece and I'm glad to have it.
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
Michael Whitt yeah I hear that! I really want that buffalo though myself 😂🔥🐉
@NYY2009CHAMPS
@NYY2009CHAMPS 4 года назад
@@SilverDragons47 Yea, i have it, and would gladly trade it for 6 20 Franc coins :)
@LMUstacker
@LMUstacker 6 месяцев назад
love your videos! Quick lesson to read italian vowels: A (as in alphabet), E (as in epiphany), I (as in indulgent), O (as in olive), U (double O). Always. Another hint: we use H to make C and G hard. So that CHE and CHI are read as KE and KI. Apart from this rule, you read Italian as it's written. I managed to teach a Thai guy to read Italian in five minutes (but he could speak English).
@judgestacker9472
@judgestacker9472 4 года назад
I'm wanting some $10 pre-33 gold. I love it in your videos when you mention spot price because in like a year if the price is through the roof, someone watching the video would be like "why wasn't I buying then!!!"
@rodneykasputtis9621
@rodneykasputtis9621 4 года назад
Judge Stacker oh yeah true story I have to check when the video was published and a quote on the day for spot would hit the spot
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
Judge Stacker lol I remember watching a video of a kid unboxing silver in 2011 and spot was like $33 😂🔥🐉
@TrevorHoneyball
@TrevorHoneyball 4 года назад
I love these little 20 franc French gold coins as well. Usually available at a reasonable price and help to bulk the gold stack up nicely 😎 Great that you have shined the light on these little beauties😁
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
Trevor H yes these are awesome for sure!!! fun to stack!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🐉
@VerticalStacker
@VerticalStacker 4 года назад
I have a bunch of these sovereign type coins. Didn’t like them at first, love them now.
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
Vertical Stacker yeah I think they are super cool!!! 🔥🐉
@iamgogi
@iamgogi 4 года назад
Love the 20 francs...all types. Perfect size gold coins to hold in-hand. Gotta get as many as you can! Thanks!
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
iamgogi for sure I want more! 😂 thanks! 🔥🐉
@cyberleaderandy1
@cyberleaderandy1 3 года назад
Just bought my first one of these, the one with the cockerel. Awsome coins and great pieces of history too.
@ganapatihegde1024
@ganapatihegde1024 3 года назад
It is an excellent Vlog with tons of valuable advice.
@SilverSergeant
@SilverSergeant 3 года назад
I just received one 20 Franc gold coin yesterday. I paid less than 7% premium...that's a million times better than the current high silver premiums.
@belloviper
@belloviper 2 года назад
Where did you buy?
@rogerbelmar7933
@rogerbelmar7933 2 года назад
My favourite is the French gold rooster.
@alexanderrdevoogt3235
@alexanderrdevoogt3235 4 года назад
Beautiful coin my friend. I've got an Austrian 20fr coin, the French rooster and Swiss Helvetica are still on my list. Thanks for sharing.
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
Alexander R De Voogt very cool!!! I really want that rooster 😂🔥🐉
@gabrielesolletico518
@gabrielesolletico518 3 года назад
Oh... that's why I have a 20 Fr. Austrian coin... now I get it!
@rogers8381
@rogers8381 4 года назад
Cool vid man! I pretty much stick to gold from Canada, USA and Mexico myself!! Maybe in the future I will set my sights across the pond!
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
Roger S nice! I need to get a canadian maple 😏🔥🐉
@northernsilverstacker4423
@northernsilverstacker4423 4 года назад
Thanks for sharing the information!
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
Northern Silver Stacker you are very welcome my friend!!! thanks for watching!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🐉
@flattmag13
@flattmag13 Год назад
Amazing channel. Love you.
@rebelboy77collins82
@rebelboy77collins82 4 года назад
Never thought about stacking these until now great video
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
rebelboy 77 Collins they are a great option and thanks! 🔥🐉
@rdoyle4401
@rdoyle4401 4 года назад
I've trying to complete Morgans and Peace Dollars before I take on anything else! Great information to have!
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
Rita Doyle wow what a cool goal!!! good luck!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🐉
@chrisstanford3652
@chrisstanford3652 3 года назад
Just started stacking 20 franc and sovereign gold coins, low premium and affordable size😀
@lightwave000
@lightwave000 2 года назад
Just keep in mind when you go to sell you will get less than spot. Some dealers wont touch them, just like sovereigns. I learned this lesson the hard way. But if you never intend to sell, best deals around.
@henrycorichi7847
@henrycorichi7847 4 года назад
I’m paying off my first gold coin and you just taught me how to figure out the coins worth....😩 I am paying way too high a premium! Now I know how to check for future purchases. I’ve only ever purchased silver, so gold is new. Thank you for the education.
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
henry corichi yeah you got to get those premiums down! it’s all good my friend live and learn... good luck with the stacking!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🐉
@RockyMountainBear
@RockyMountainBear 4 года назад
Nice. I have the Dupré guardian angel gold 20 franc. I like the legend behind it. It has brought me great luck. No guillotine for me.
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
Rocky Mountain Bear that is awesome and those are very cool!!! 🔥🐉
@Nodeelite
@Nodeelite 4 года назад
Great info, I was considering buying some but I felt I didn't know enough about them. I try to stick with mainly Canadian Maples for purity purposes but I do buy some American Eagles every now and then. I think I'll check some of these francs out. Thank-you for the information Godbless.
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
WeeBee Gold and Silver nice now you know more about them 😜 thanks for watching!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🐉
@fiatdestroyer9716
@fiatdestroyer9716 4 года назад
I love these, and have four in my stack!
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
Fiat Destroyer that is awesome! they are very fun 😁🔥🐉
@Ziegen-Sauger
@Ziegen-Sauger 4 года назад
You hit it on the head. These are my secrets (together with our 90% $5 commemorative and Dutch Ducats). They are all around same size and gold contents. I easily find them at/under spot.
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
Ziegen Sauger oh yeah and under spot is awesome!!! 🔥🐉
@HifiCentret
@HifiCentret 2 года назад
Beside the French and Swiss 20 Franc coins there's also the Italian 20 Lire coin. As part of the latin monetary union they're exact same specs as 20 Franc, size, dimensions, everything. Also worth looking for. They do tend to have a slightly higher numismatic value but can still be found cheap. As well as Francs the Lire also exists in 10 Lire versions. Living in Europe I love vintage European coins. While it is true that usually dealers buy them slightly below spot they also sells not too far above spot for their size so they still have a nice small spread and thus being a very good choice in their size range. Another coin that also tends to have small spread is the Austrian 1 Ducat restrike. Also worth looking for. Very unique .986 alloy which have a very nice color - imho nicer than pure gold. Probably my favorite Frenc coin is the Angel coin - who doesn't fall in love with that legend. Another favorite is the Danish 10 and 20 kroner from 1908-1912. Probably the most detailed gold coins ever made. If you get a good clear strike it's amazing all those small details you can see with a loupe. Not many coins come close to that and vertainly not any modern coins I know of. They took their time to make details you need a magnifier to see!
@ClaytonCountyHistoryHound
@ClaytonCountyHistoryHound 4 года назад
I definitely want to add a gold coin to my collection this year and have been working on how to do that. I'm just so nervous about being taken advantage of. I don't know enough about them yet and some of the videos I've seen on counterfeits lately have made me very nervous. Congrats on your beauty, good luck, happy hunting and take care.
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
Clayton County History Hound I would say buy locally and have them test it with their verified before you buy!!!! thanks my friend 🔥🐉
@jennahenry4426
@jennahenry4426 4 года назад
I purchased a few of these back in February. I paid around $340 out the door. I use a local coin shop.
@ClaytonCountyHistoryHound
@ClaytonCountyHistoryHound 4 года назад
@@jennahenry4426 , Thanks. I'll definitely have to find a coin shop that I can trust. The closest one is an hour drive and when I stopped there he told me he only sells on ebay and basically didn't have time to pull coins to show me. Next nearest is about two and a half hours away lol. I'll definitely stop there next time I'm that way. Wishing you all the best, good luck, happy hunting and take care.
@googleuser109
@googleuser109 4 года назад
With roughly 80 years of production, from numerous countries, there's a lot of room for counterfeits. Make sure you know/trust the seller. Fractional Au is definitely one of the best investments, in my opinion.
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
Google User exactly got to avoid the fakes!!! 🔥🐉
@stevewoods7299
@stevewoods7299 4 года назад
Love the content. This size of coin. Affordability. I do not know about anyone else and I consider this my weakness. But I want to buy something every two weeks at least. More lately I want it to be gold. This fits the bill.
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
Steve Woods yeah these are a great option!!! I need more lol 🔥🐉
@dazedandconfusedstacker9923
@dazedandconfusedstacker9923 4 года назад
Thats what i do. I try to get one every week or two. Definitely every paycheck.
@parttimepreppers9907
@parttimepreppers9907 4 года назад
Besides U.S. may be my favorite pre 33 Gold! Great info buddy!😊👍
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
PART TIME PREPPERS nice these are the European version of the pre 33 😂🔥🐉
@shedigs
@shedigs 3 года назад
I got the same coin as my giveaway,, its a beauty!
@rodneykasputtis9621
@rodneykasputtis9621 4 года назад
Roosters and sovereigns are great for stacking I love them . Problem in Australia the government charges 10% GST tax on anything that’s not at least 999 pure gold and silver . But your spot on about frugal gold stacking they are always a great option
@maximeallard5282
@maximeallard5282 4 года назад
Its taxed too in Canada, but when you sell them they are capital gains taxe free ( same with junk silver ) . For long term its definetly worth it .
@rodneykasputtis9621
@rodneykasputtis9621 4 года назад
Maxime Allard Australia gets slammed with capital gains on selling our gold
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
rodney Kasputtis gotcha those taxes are a real bummer!!!! 🔥🐉
@mapleleafmetals814
@mapleleafmetals814 4 года назад
The 10 francs are a nice alternative to the 1/10th ounce as well. Same reasons you stated for the 20 francs
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
Maple leaf metals oh yeah and cheaper than the SOVS!!!! 🔥🐉
@danscollectables5997
@danscollectables5997 4 года назад
Very nice! I wish I had some! 😀
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
Dan’s Collectables thanks! go get one! 😜🔥🐉
@danscollectables5997
@danscollectables5997 4 года назад
Silver Dragons maybe someday! 😀
@fin59shaw
@fin59shaw 11 месяцев назад
Just got my first Rooster, 1910. Really a beautiful coin!
@silverinternational101
@silverinternational101 4 года назад
Jup, When I buy small gold coins it's these European Francs / Lira's etc. and of course The Gold Ducta. Cheers !
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
silver.international nice they are very cool gold coins to buy!!! 🔥🐉
@savagestacker
@savagestacker 4 года назад
Always worried about counterfeit gold coins so I try to stick with what I know maples and eagles I may try one day when confident on what I’m getting is truly gold thank you for the video will do my research
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
C Barrett yeah you have to buy from legit dealers when buying these... also congrats on that recent spot gold purchase!!! 🔥🐉
@dazedandconfusedstacker9923
@dazedandconfusedstacker9923 4 года назад
Get a sigma tester.
@chadthomas3006
@chadthomas3006 4 года назад
Like mentioned above, buy from a legit seller. Weigh and measure with a pair calipers.
@dazedandconfusedstacker9923
@dazedandconfusedstacker9923 4 года назад
Get a sigma
@timoortiz8732
@timoortiz8732 4 года назад
I understand the dollar amount over spot per coin, but how do you calculate what it would be at the 1 troy oz level over spot? My LCS has melt + $18 and trying to figure out if that's a good deal or not?
@athenastarbrite2955
@athenastarbrite2955 4 года назад
Thank you!
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
Athenastarbrite you are welcome my friend! 🔥🐉
@sterlingcannabis
@sterlingcannabis 4 года назад
I can find 20, 40 franc and Mexican Paco's at spot all the time. For the fractional size and being government backed is very attractive to me.
@Eli-qr9hc
@Eli-qr9hc 4 года назад
Sterling Cannabis at spot, online? Where?
@sterlingcannabis
@sterlingcannabis 4 года назад
Eli, al LCSs
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
Sterling Cannabis nice those are awesome to stack!!! 🔥🐉
@dalepak1955
@dalepak1955 4 года назад
The Italian 20 lire is also a 0.1867 gold coin.
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
Dale Pak yep it is in the same family!!! there are like 50 of them! 🔥🐉
@Dan-qu8qs
@Dan-qu8qs 4 года назад
I have a nice Napoleon 20 Frank from 1811. Nice tone to it.
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
Dan wow that is so awesome!!!! over 200 years old!!!!!! 😮😮😮🔥🔥🔥🐉
@b.george9360
@b.george9360 3 года назад
Another pro for those coins is that 90%gold 10%copper actually makes them durable. Accidental drop is not an issue while you can damage your 24 carat kangaroos just by touching them.
@Andres__-gm1nh
@Andres__-gm1nh 4 года назад
Great information I mainly keep too ¼ Canadian. 9999 gold, but I do enjoy buying other coins that have a piece of history.
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
Calzone I wanna get me a canadian 1/4 so bad 😜🔥🐉
@martyr4778
@martyr4778 4 года назад
Hey did how ya doing, I like the Maple leafs my self 99.9 gold👍
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
Marty R i’m great and they are actually 9999😆🔥🐉
@richardsimpson5152
@richardsimpson5152 4 года назад
Bought some angles and roosters when gold was around 400$ an once.
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
Richard Simpson 😮😮😮that is super cool!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🐉
@dazedandconfusedstacker9923
@dazedandconfusedstacker9923 4 года назад
1400
@dazedandconfusedstacker9923
@dazedandconfusedstacker9923 4 года назад
Lol
@SilverRipples.
@SilverRipples. 4 года назад
All Great reasons to buy a 20 francs 👍🔥🐉
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
Silver Ripples for sure and thanks for watching my friend!!!! 🔥🐉
@EmpirePreciousMetals
@EmpirePreciousMetals 4 года назад
Don’t have any of these yet, but I will be getting some francs and beans soon. 🤪
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
Stacking Stormtrooper nice get em bro!!! 🔥🐉
@dazedandconfusedstacker9923
@dazedandconfusedstacker9923 4 года назад
Don't forget the marks in the guilders there fun to
@2is1gold
@2is1gold 4 года назад
I love Roosters (20 francs) but had a hell of a time selling them. I guess the takeaway is never sell your gold. Especially if it's French.
@MacGyver7640
@MacGyver7640 3 года назад
Hard time in terms of acceptance or discount to spot?
@2is1gold
@2is1gold 3 года назад
@@MacGyver7640 both.
@MacGyver7640
@MacGyver7640 3 года назад
@@2is1gold got it, thanks! Still puzzles me that 200 year old coins can sell at melt! If I were stacking as you do I’d go for the liquidity of buffalos or eagles as you suggest. But I just love the history! Blows my mind that I can pick up these 200-year old 20 francs at melt.
@michaelangelobergeron5980
@michaelangelobergeron5980 Месяц назад
I’m a fan of the gold roosters
@pyrotechnicien
@pyrotechnicien 4 года назад
The Latin Monetary Union was around from 1865 to 1927... You said 1965! 😀. Also, these coins were first minted in France by Napoleon in the very early 1800s and were produced in Europe and elsewhere until at least 1949...
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
pyrotechnicien yes the treaty ended in 1927 but lots of different countries still made these in some fashion well after that.. it was a generalization 😏🔥🐉
@sirrathersplendid4825
@sirrathersplendid4825 3 года назад
Napoleon actually minted 10F, 20F and 40F coins, but I guess it was the middle one that became the classic ‘goldilocks’ size - not too big and not too small.
@elparnell
@elparnell 4 года назад
What are your thoughts on the Indian head gold coins? They are similar in size as far as gold content. I have been looking at them as well as roosters.
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
Eric Parnell I love me some pre33 US gold!!!! I really wanna get some next 😁🔥🐉
@j.j.l.
@j.j.l. 2 года назад
Thanks for this informative video. Just so you know, At 1:42, you say "each one contains ONE point 867..." but it reads as "0.1867." Maybe someone else has already pointed this out as I am latecomer to this video and have not read the comments.
@Eli-qr9hc
@Eli-qr9hc 4 года назад
I’m thinking about getting into gold, so if I can ask, what’s the price comparison dollar for dollar of the 1/10 AGE vs the .18 oz ? ( as the better buy dollar to dollar each item) oh, and also price comparison to the .23 sovereign. I’m looking to start stacking
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
Eli usually you will find that sovs and 20francs have much lower premiums that the 1/10th oz... good luck!!! 🔥🐉
@Eli-qr9hc
@Eli-qr9hc 4 года назад
Silver Dragons indeed I have found that to be the case. Thank you for your input !!!
@john-ze7eu
@john-ze7eu Год назад
Yes, premiums lower than a 1/10 oz bullion coin.. But it seems an lcs will offer less than spot to buy and act like you are insulted his daughter when he gives you $ for them
@SilverBlackBird1989
@SilverBlackBird1989 4 года назад
The other ones like from Poland and Serbia are high premium. So I would not buy them unless you are a collector. I stay with the cheap coins. Since I'm Belgian this will mostly be Leopold's. The one you have has the head of Ceres. They carry a bit of a premium you are very lucky to get that.
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
SilverBlackBird1989 yeah some of these have high premiums for sure... wow that is cool that this one base some numismatic value!!! I got it at spot 😜🔥🐉
@TheSimba86
@TheSimba86 2 года назад
I'd rather buy these at 7% premium than pay a 20% premium for regular fractional gold. can't buy them at my local coin shops because they want a higher premium than apmex
@dazedandconfusedstacker9923
@dazedandconfusedstacker9923 4 года назад
Im hooked on European gold . i got french and Belgium francs, Marks, sovrighns, guilders and somthing else im sure. My local coin shop guy said i was stupid for stacking them. I like them and i van isully get nice coins for 2% over spot. Tjat and half eagles is all i been stacking. It was nice when you could get one for 240 bucks. You ispired me to do a video of my "junk gold" as i call it
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
Dazedandconfused stacker wow you have quite the collection!!! I can’t wait to see that video!!! 🔥🐉
@dazedandconfusedstacker9923
@dazedandconfusedstacker9923 4 года назад
Been on 7 10s got a longer crsppy vide. Havent had time to make nice one
@Beachbumartist
@Beachbumartist 3 года назад
Cheapest i can find is about $20 over spot on Ebay but most are charging about $40 it seems
@anthonyfox4626
@anthonyfox4626 3 года назад
French and Swiss 20f coins sell for a lower premium over gold than bullion coins, which doesn't make any damned sense to me but there it is.
@belloviper
@belloviper 2 года назад
Don't you have to pay capital gain on hold bullion. Is there away to avoid it?
@SuperNestor12
@SuperNestor12 3 года назад
What local coin shop do you go to?
@aimeeosmulski1831
@aimeeosmulski1831 4 года назад
Hmmm...wonder if I have any that I wasn't aware of 🤔
@luisking7228
@luisking7228 3 года назад
The History is simple. It's gold.
@Alexwhatisit
@Alexwhatisit 3 года назад
What size cap do these fit in?
@stevewoods7299
@stevewoods7299 4 года назад
For me probably only from a major dealer.... I could be tricked. Would rather pay 5 or 10 more and be able to sleep.
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
Steve Woods my LCS tests everything with their verifier when they buy and sell 🔥🐉
@Eli-qr9hc
@Eli-qr9hc 3 года назад
Thoughts--- French Francs Marianne Rooster vs Swiss Francs Vreneli ?
@Rafael-bj9pq
@Rafael-bj9pq 6 месяцев назад
Do you think they are strong enough to not have them in capsules?
@Richard__Prins
@Richard__Prins 5 месяцев назад
Yes, no capsules needed because at one point it was just regular money (and the only real money with silver lol)
@arniec3993
@arniec3993 4 года назад
Cool
@silvercoin7434
@silvercoin7434 4 года назад
Nice
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
DNV thanks my friend!! 🔥🐉
@ocomegashadowstacking5886
@ocomegashadowstacking5886 4 года назад
Wow beautiful little Gold ForeignCoin ever!!! :D And Hit Like button!!! :D Aka I Love any types of GoldCoins
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
OcOmegaShadow Stacking thanks and yes these are awesome!!! 🔥🐉
@markodivljanovic9511
@markodivljanovic9511 3 года назад
Cool video, thanks. A similar type of coin also is the Franc Joseph coin which comes in two sizes, 3.49g and the 4x larger 13.96g and both are 98.6% gold. It was used as currency up to 1915. and after that Muenze Osterreich started making them as collectable/investment coins
@pavlysafwat8040
@pavlysafwat8040 4 месяца назад
I have a 20 franc gold coin from 1913. I want to know how much its real price is
@Patrick-kt5mc
@Patrick-kt5mc 3 месяца назад
That's an official restrike from the Paris Mint from 1951 to '60. It's real price is whatever the price of gold is currently.
@NYY2009CHAMPS
@NYY2009CHAMPS 4 года назад
20 Francs are great, and are fundamental in my stack. I stack 20 Francs from all over Europe, 25 pesetas and 1 Sovereign for my fractionals under .25 oz. What I like most about this coin is the price (can be bought at or below spot), and also the fact that they are not faked. I've seen many many fake (real gold but not actually minted by the government) Sovereigns, 25 pesetas etc
@NYY2009CHAMPS
@NYY2009CHAMPS 4 года назад
I heard you mention you have heard of them faked, but I never have
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
Michael Silverman the more numismatic ones have been faked for sure... the bullion ones probably less... they are great though!!! 🔥🐉
@palestineViper
@palestineViper Год назад
Where do you get these for spot price??? I’m paying at least 7% over spot
@john-ze7eu
@john-ze7eu Год назад
Yup
@RogersMgmtGroup
@RogersMgmtGroup 3 года назад
You said the treaty was 1965. That should be 1865.
@silverstallion4634
@silverstallion4634 4 года назад
What's up silver dragon's 🐉
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
Justin Capo what up my friend!🔥🐉
@jdo2574
@jdo2574 4 года назад
@silverdragons have you (or anyone here) done business with Nation Wide Coins on their gold 1/10 oz up to 1 oz at spot new customer deal? I have not and am looking to see if someone has with their experience with them?
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
JustDanO international stacker did the deal and said it was legit. go for it! 🔥🐉
@jdo2574
@jdo2574 4 года назад
@@SilverDragons47 I just ordered 10 of the 1/10 oz coins and they are not your typical online dealer. All payments must be done by phone and there shipment time is 10 to 15 business days (even with C.C.). I asked if they didn't carry the product in stock and they said "We have them in stock but we always tell our customers 10 to 15 bus. days." Strange They operate like its still 1970 ha?
@savagestacker
@savagestacker 4 года назад
$1,588 is what I’m seeing on kitco for spot price 2/1/20
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
C Barrett nice dropped today 👍🏽🔥🐉
@Disinfective_Vibes
@Disinfective_Vibes Год назад
Lira, Lire sounds like "Leera"!
@piccolosan19
@piccolosan19 4 года назад
Bon jour!!
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
The Prince hello my friend!!! 🔥🐉
@richardalexander5758
@richardalexander5758 4 года назад
Early French 20's and 40's used to be fairly common, and a really good value. I have some from 1809, 1810, 1811, and 1812. Roosters were later, and very pretty, but not quite as cool as the original Napoleon Bonaparte coins.
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
Richard Alexander for sure! I really want a rooster now 😂🔥🔥
@jennahenry4426
@jennahenry4426 4 года назад
I've got two-1818, one-1817 and one-1824.
@richardalexander5758
@richardalexander5758 4 года назад
@@jennahenry4426 They really are wonderful coins.
@jennahenry4426
@jennahenry4426 4 года назад
@@richardalexander5758 they sure are, I got lucky that day. I went in wanting to purchase a gold Eagle. I saw these and picked up all 4. I normally purchase silver.
@richardalexander5758
@richardalexander5758 4 года назад
@@jennahenry4426 Very cool! Great find. Got to love Eagles, silver or gold. Junk silver was a good buy for a while in April, then got expensive.
@debbys-abqnm4537
@debbys-abqnm4537 4 года назад
At about 1:45 you say "one point eight six seven ... " but screen said "0.1867 troy ounces" or "less than 1/5 of an oz". I had wondered why one commenter here said that buying 1oz gold buffalo made him sick but 5-6 gold 20 frank "over a 1oz" was preferable. So you simply misspoke -- but made me feel smarter for figure out what you meant to say 😀😁 I don't think the coin says how much gold is in it (next time put coin in holder so it is still), so without that I doubt I'll ever purchase one. Regular folks (not coin dealers/vendors) who don't recognize them may not believe me if I swear they are "0.1867 troy ounce".
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
Debby S-AbqNM 😂😂😂😂😂😂 yes I said it wrong so I put the right thing on the screen... I didn’t want to refilm the whole video 😏🔥🐉
@debbys-abqnm4537
@debbys-abqnm4537 4 года назад
SD, I don't blame you, not wanting to redo whole video! I'm glad you put the true number on the screen a bit later, that clears up any misunderstandings! 🤩😁😊
@RogersMgmtGroup
@RogersMgmtGroup Год назад
these have been around for a long time and issued by many countries. You can handle them so easy to test with just a scale and calipers for a good handle on authenticity. Anyone can check online to find the 0.1867 AGW. For me 0.1867 is easy to remember because Canada 🇨🇦 was born in 1867.
@jackgoldman1
@jackgoldman1 3 месяца назад
Gold gets a bad rap because it is money, not investments. No growth. Only breaks even.
@dazedandconfusedstacker9923
@dazedandconfusedstacker9923 4 года назад
I called a local We Buy Gold here place today. And ask him if they had any Frank's or european gold. Oh, and the guy said yep, we do. I'll sell you all you want for 3% above spot. . That's without even walking in there talking to the guy or even try and negotiate.. So I think I'll probably just get away from that spot or maybe 1% over spot for your walk in there with about a grand and my Sigma tester
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
Dazedandconfused stacker nice way to do it!! yeah these are cheap for sure 😏🔥🐉
@polarroller
@polarroller 4 года назад
I live in USA, I stack the British Sovereign. I don't have any of the gold Francs or the Swiss counterpart.
@jima7925
@jima7925 4 года назад
I also like Sovereigns. i love the low premium.. also have 20f coins in stack good price point
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
Polar Roller these are a great option just like the sovs.... stack on!! 🔥🐉
@StephanieG1
@StephanieG1 4 года назад
SD and GS are noticeably cosmopolitan for Americans and are to be congratulated on their open-mindedness and sophistication. Most Americans are consciously or unconsciously insular in their thinking:'if it ain't American it ain't no good'.
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
Stephanie G lol thanks!!! I try to be open minded 😁🔥🐉
@steelersjourney11111
@steelersjourney11111 4 года назад
Is It Almost Impossible To Stack 20 Dollar Saint Gaudens ?
@tryonetyrone9475
@tryonetyrone9475 4 года назад
So I bought one that is 1914 Ms-63 no mint mark and I think that's the only coin I want
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
steelersjourney11111 lol not if you are loaded 😏🔥🐉
@glorfac
@glorfac Месяц назад
Do you still think these are great for stacking?
@humaailasif9313
@humaailasif9313 Год назад
I have 20 franc gold coin of 1927..want to sale
@mostlyharmless0544
@mostlyharmless0544 2 года назад
Mmmmm touching gold with my skin….. mmmm yes touch that gold …. Yessss….. haha sorry. 😅
@zeproo
@zeproo 2 года назад
There is a rush on these.
@marteljim6614
@marteljim6614 7 месяцев назад
At 9:40 you mention it has been faked. As far as I know only very easy to spot fakes have been done (wrong dimensions or weight) or it'sa gold coin melted into an older gold coin.
@jackgoldman1
@jackgoldman1 3 месяца назад
$1500 for an ounce of gold. LOL. 2024, gold is $2,400. Of course, was $20 an ounce in 1920. How times change.
@NeilBaylard
@NeilBaylard 4 года назад
Lira is pronounced Leera like steer a. The a is prounounced auh Like a e I o u.
@nenitacapistrano3273
@nenitacapistrano3273 4 года назад
Woooohh its to expensive France coin..hope I can get even one of that coin for soviener.
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
nenita capistrano yeah these are super cool for sure!!! 🔥🐉
@rockonblackops777
@rockonblackops777 4 года назад
Wait you sound different.
@SilverDragons47
@SilverDragons47 4 года назад
rockonblackops777 maybe because I am using a better mic now 😁🔥🐉
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