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Why a Variac is NOT the correct choice for a Guitar Amp. 

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If you use a Variac for your Guitar Amp or know someone who does please get some gear that is safer for your beloved Amplifier!

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@hekakain4108
@hekakain4108 Месяц назад
I bought the UK version of the Brown Box last year and it keeps my power outlet from the wall constant at whatever setting I'm on power intake wise...great bit of kit...Not cheap but leaves the worry out of damaging my expensive tube amps...It will also handle two amps at a time...
@johnwebb2562
@johnwebb2562 8 месяцев назад
Question ❓ please Why are these Brownies so expensive 😂.
@vanbike667
@vanbike667 6 месяцев назад
"please buy my product, the product that its been used for decades is now dangerous for life" 😂
@BigTrouble324
@BigTrouble324 8 месяцев назад
I bought an UPS for my 24-track recorder that is quite sensitive. Always 100% stable voltage no matter what happens with the house supply. Still works even if there is a short power outage. This gives me time to stop it properly and avoid any pops being left on the tape.
@larrychung3190
@larrychung3190 8 месяцев назад
So you use a cheaply-made overseas Variac to calibrate your (very fine but expensive) product? You might want to consult your marketing department... the older US-made Variacs have been used for decades without issues for thousands of hours of continuous use in amplifiers, auto garages and electronics shops. Where are all the dead people? I own a BrownBox and appreciate your fine product, but I also use a metered US-made Variac nearly every day for hours working on vintage tube amplifiers, as well as onstage. Please don't scare people about these very useful and reliable devices. And please get a better older Variac to calibrate your units more reliably and safely. (:
@MojoMedicineMan
@MojoMedicineMan 5 месяцев назад
That's a good point. 👍
@Flashtofchannel
@Flashtofchannel 9 месяцев назад
A variac must be used with a good voltmeter on the side, every elec guys know that... Now for the benefit of the brown box why don't you just tell about filtering capability or some ? Does it filter power supply ? Thx
@AmpRx
@AmpRx 9 месяцев назад
It reduces voltage to your desired voltage taking the wall voltage and stepping it down.
@Dr.Jekyll
@Dr.Jekyll 2 месяца назад
To get the EVH brown sound, this would need to reduce voltage to 90 VAC. Can the Brown Box be modified to go that low? Seems obvious to me that many, many people would want that option.
@romvlvs771
@romvlvs771 2 месяца назад
I have used USA made Variacs for hours on end with 0 issues.
@rubenreza
@rubenreza 8 месяцев назад
Eddie didn’t have a lot of money when he was using a Variac around the LA clubs before hitting it big.
@willdenham
@willdenham 8 месяцев назад
He used them in the studio right on up through the one he built.
@nedbressler3234
@nedbressler3234 6 месяцев назад
His amp was biased to 90, that’s how he could do it. George Lynch does the same thing
@Dr.Jekyll
@Dr.Jekyll 2 месяца назад
Eddie had mommy and daddy to bail him out financially, if he was in dire straits. People who have very little food don’t risk burning/wasting food. People who have little food and KNOW they are not in danger of starving might risk it, though.
@pjdboss1
@pjdboss1 5 месяцев назад
I know alot of people that use quality variacs and NEVER blew up an amp!
@babydaddy1930
@babydaddy1930 3 месяца назад
Yeah the fact i play two plexi's at once,and the brown box is designed to do both at once makes it a decent price, i like it,
@dwillc6621
@dwillc6621 5 месяцев назад
Reading a lot of negative comments here... and maybe not the best sales pitch, but nonetheless, I do believe the BrownBox is a better option vs. variac. I own one, and it's definitely a well built bit of kit. The best part is the screen. No guess work. And for any of you that do play clubs, you know that the wall voltage can vary... and vary by quite a bit. I'm running a modern Mesa, so it's built for 120v, and I think feels better at around 116-117. Using the BrownBox lets me dial in the input voltage for my amp at every venue I play, so I get a consistent sound and feel at every show. Is it more expensive than a variac?... sure, but not crazy expensive. It's worth the extra money for peace of mind and ease of use.
@mickizzo
@mickizzo 6 месяцев назад
I bought what I thought was a new one a couple years ago but it was black. Did I get a fake?
@willdenham
@willdenham 8 месяцев назад
Can you go down to 90 volts on the Brown Box?
@MojoMedicineMan
@MojoMedicineMan 5 месяцев назад
A lot of good comments. It seems people are waking up about the high price. I do agree that a small variac shouldn't be used for extended periods of time or for gigging, etc. What this brown box salesman here neglects to inform you of, as previously mentioned by other posters here is that you can find a schematic anywhere on the Internet on how to build your own for pennies on the dollar. Dr. Z even displayed his own homemade unit in a video where he is advocating for the brown box company. Filtering is the key component here with an adjustable switch. I built some for friends over twenty-five years ago that I basically sold for the parts invested, $50 that are so over built that the brown box pales in comparison, especially in amperage stabilization. What the brown box is really selling is a small compact easy on the eyes, carry around unit, apparently with enough filtering for one amplifier. I would not plug more than one amplifier into a brown box. The pricing is high, because there are more guitar players ignorant about this subject and have the funds to just purchase one, the convenience and the little digital window is nice, so that's what they are focused on in the sales department. I don't have a problem with capitalism or their product so far outside of the pricing. I would like to open one up just to check it out and do some tests. Maybe someday, if one falls in my lap. However, like Dr Z stated, these are really for a vintage tube amplifier and not necessary for a modern amplifier built on todays 120+ voltages. If you have a modern tube amplifier, then a "Furman" filtering unit should cleanup your wall voltage for home or gigging consistant tone. Unless, there are more serious electrical issues where your rig is plugged into.
@michel333100
@michel333100 Месяц назад
I started using a Chinese variac lately. I always use a volt meter to check tge voltage before plugging in my amp. No problems for me personally using this. What I would like to know is why can you nit use a variac made in China for say an hour? US made variacs are kind of costly on Ebay. Any suggestions?
@MojoMedicineMan
@MojoMedicineMan Месяц назад
@@michel333100 There's no real good solution. You're still running off wall voltage to the variac and depending on the quality of the build of the variac, etc. Unless you want to stare at a voltage meter all the time.
@cathodeanode
@cathodeanode 7 месяцев назад
Does this provide any isolation or is it an autotransformer?
@eoinodunlaing4391
@eoinodunlaing4391 2 месяца назад
Auto Tx
@eguitarplayer6689
@eguitarplayer6689 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for the content. It was informative.
@7171jay
@7171jay 6 месяцев назад
The Brown Box is certainly safer than a variac that could be accidentally turned up higher than 120 volts and damage your amp but beyond that much of the info stated here is incorrect or misleading.
@75YBA
@75YBA 8 месяцев назад
I’m not in the market for a Brown Box, but you sure educated me about variacs. Edit: I’ll definitely spread the word if anyone brings it up.
@AmpRx
@AmpRx 8 месяцев назад
excellent!
@alsaudio
@alsaudio Месяц назад
Bs, variacs can and are used continuously for years in industry. As well, a cheap Chinese one obviously would not have accurate metering. Nice product idea, but pricey.
@smokyFAB
@smokyFAB 17 дней назад
Just buy a $5.00 plug in meter display and then dial to your heart’s content. As the wall current fluctuates regularly, what the Variac dial does is simply allowing you to adjust your voltage accordingly more like “percentage up or down”, and common sense suggests that because of this, you go by what the $5.00 meter plugged into the Variac reads, not the numbers on the machine which are just to give an idea. Those red Chinese ones are also being used by top professionals like Warren Haynes (seen 2 of those in one of his rig rundown..). Been using one as well myself for many years, no issues at all, just adjust on the fly to the desired voltage. If I was considering a Brown Box, after watching this bashing nonsense, I would definitely look somewhere else, very disingenuous video.
@Robert-Smith
@Robert-Smith 5 месяцев назад
BrownBox is handy but way over priced for what it is. A good U.S. made variac works great. This is just a sales pitch in my opinion.
@MatthewSwasta
@MatthewSwasta 9 месяцев назад
My house voltage fluctuates between 122V and 124V throughout the day. My amp guy informed me my Bogner Ecstasy really needs to see no more than 120V or even down to 118V to run properly. That's what I'm looking for...not necessarily a change in sound, but for the longest life of components in the amp. Will this device do this for me long term?
@AmpRx
@AmpRx 9 месяцев назад
Yes, The Brown Box is exactly what you need.
@Winterfell1066
@Winterfell1066 2 месяца назад
You have got to be one of the worst spokesperson I have ever heard. Slow, disjointed, and just bad facts as many have commented below. Did you actually prepare for this spot? Also, you say you are using that non-metered variac to calibrate your Brownbox? Use a voltmeter. Even good USA variacs had tolerances of 10% or more. You talk about how bad they are, but that is what you use to calibrate your brown box? You don't even use a good USA variac, just the cheap Chinese made version. WTF? I just bought a brown box II. Didn't come with any literature. I should have watched your videos first. I maybe should have skipped it.
@glaper
@glaper Месяц назад
My god is that shirt too tight
@bigstick5278
@bigstick5278 6 месяцев назад
Nice product that the Chines will Clone and sell at a less ridicules price.. Sorry but if you haven't noticed most musicians are Ramen Vienna Sausage eating poor, we don't have money like Keith Richards. This box point to point wired with solid gold wire or something? A boutique Voltage regulator, got it..
@geomusicmove
@geomusicmove 5 месяцев назад
I wish the chinese made these but they don't, so we're stuck with this or a variac.
@harryroger1739
@harryroger1739 18 дней назад
Sell sell sell stuff that people don't need.
@raxxtango
@raxxtango 7 месяцев назад
give the info here a c- at best. misleading. Buying a cheaply made china junk variac is spotty , (especially if this is what you're using to certify your test equipment) ) in any variac you need a good meter to ensure the variac output is correct. never trust the dial knobs on any variac especially Chinese junk. #2 decreasing the voltage into the amplifier (to 90v) will run the output tubes colder not hotter and will extend the life of the tubes especially if your amp is biased for 120/117 or 110. #3 a quality variac can be plugged-in for years without any problems, the only issue is the load / draw on the coil and the gauge wire and breaker on that circuit. running a vraiac at 200v ~on a 15 amp breaker with 14 guage wire with excessive load will burn the insulation from wires in the wall. #4 dropping and damaging the coil is a problem. #5 dropping it on your foot is a problem. - conclusion, the brown box is simpler and less hassle
@LateNightYinzer
@LateNightYinzer 7 месяцев назад
I think your biggest beef here is with the crappy variac. And I'd agree. When I got into building amps in highschool in the early 2000's, I bought a used Staco. Big old brick of American iron. And of course, I had to try browning out my plexi and fender clones, measuring the output on my fluke. Never had any issues and it worked. I think the biggest dangers were then and are today for curious amateurs are, like you said, the onboard voltmeters can't be trusted. Even my old staco's analog voltmeter was off calibration by 15 volts. That's a lot. Second, it had a range to go above 120, I think to 140. Put it a nooby's hands and you've got a scenario where he thinks he's supplying 115 volts, but actually the amp's seeing 130 and then the smoke alarm is going off. Haha.
@geomusicmove
@geomusicmove 5 месяцев назад
There are chinese made variacs that are pretty good and reliable. Surely the computer/phone/tablet you used to post your comment was made in China and works as intended. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, not everything made in China is junk.
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