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Why an angled back cut is dangerous and unecessary when hinge cutting a tree 

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It is very common to see people doing an angled back cut when they hinge cut trees for whitetail deer habitat. This is an improper and unsafe way to cut a tree whether you are cutting by conventional methods to fell a tree by using a face cut and back cut, or hinge cutting for deer habitat.
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Novice inexperienced tree fellers believe that by angling the back cut they will keep the tree from falling over backwards. In fact, a tree is more likely to fall backwards with an angled cut because the cut creates an angled lever that will break the tree across the grain of the wood. If the cutter goes too far or the tree is more fragile and weak than he thought, when the tree breaks it will fall forward off the stump, displacing the top of the tree and causing it to fall backwards.
In contrast, if a feller cuts too far through with a flat cut, and the tree leans back, a lever is created that pulls up along the grain of the wood. It requires only a tiny amount of holding wood to keep a tree from falling over backwards with a flat back cut. Think about how easy it is to break a half inch diameter branch across the grain and how are it is to break a 1/4 inch branch by pulling on the ends. That is the difference between an angled back cut and a flat back cut.
Not only that, but it requires more than twice as much work by the cutter and the saw to make an angled back cut as it does a flat back cut.
In this video,I demonstrate with a handsaw that it takes more than twice as many strokes to make the cut angled at 45 degrees as it does flat, and the resulting hinge is much weaker than the hinge made with a flat cut.
After viewing hundreds of tree disasters on youtube, where trees fall over backwards and land on houses and cars, I believe about 1.3 of those disasters are cause by an angled back cut. Another one third are cause by making the face cut too deep (conventional cutting), and almost all tree fails arise from not leaving enough holding wood in place to keep the tree stable.
Angled back cuts while hinge cutting for deer habitat will result in far more break offs and dead trees than a flat cut, because the flat cut results in a more stable hinge.
Be safe and make sure you always make the cut as flat and horizontal as possible. Safety first while felling a tree. Always wear protective equipment.

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@curbappeal3397
@curbappeal3397 4 года назад
I have successfully felled two trees of around 20-30 feet tall, with angled back cuts and another person on the rope. I feel extremely lucky that neither of them fell the wrong way, and that I’ve learned better before I do another one. Thanks.
@davej7458
@davej7458 5 лет назад
Extremely interesting. Not a cut I would ever use, and now I know exactly why I shouldn't. Thank you.
@gregjohnson5194
@gregjohnson5194 5 лет назад
Thank you very much, no angled back cuts. You saved me some grief. Thanks
@HavokTheorem
@HavokTheorem 6 лет назад
Thank you for this video. I just got my first petrol chainsaw and got to the point where I was considering whether it was worth angling the backcut in order to induce a slide away from the cut. I was correct in that assumption, but thanks to this video it has become apparent that the side effect is the tree falling backwards because that sliding moment is at the bottom of the tree!
@TCSawmills
@TCSawmills 6 лет назад
Great instructional video, I hope beginning tree cutters will listen to your advice. Years ago when I was in college, I would put a back cut in like you were explaining. I have since learned the proper way to cut a tree. Thanks again.
@gooddrugsfarm9105
@gooddrugsfarm9105 7 лет назад
Thanks I needed that! We have a lot of trees on our property and paying someone isn't an option. I've noticed over the past few months that I've been slightly angling my back cuts more and more. It "felt" safer but that's another reason not to act on feelings. Thanks again!
@teasouth_SC
@teasouth_SC 6 лет назад
The best to the point vid on this subject I've seen yet, thank you.
@thechronicgeneralist
@thechronicgeneralist 5 лет назад
Completely agree with the explanation. As for the number of cuts, it's probably worse because you're using a cross cutting hand saw but you're right about the extra distance to cut
@corax2012
@corax2012 4 года назад
Never seen anyone dim enough to cut a tree like that. :) I look at the natural tendency and other dynamics when planning felling a tree with minimal equipment. I have used winches to help in awkward situations ... no skinny rope ... big winch, truck tow straps. Folks don't realize how dang heavy trees really are. Another good tip ... take your time, and have planned escape routs ... and I mean drop your shit and run, because your life might depend on it. Trees and nature are unforgiving.
@generic5191
@generic5191 7 лет назад
Thank you sir for the informative info. I had 3 large 40 foot maples. I was going to angle cut, instead I decided to try it your way. (btw this was my first attempt to cut a tree). It was so simple and bulls eye precise. Did it this morning and all tress down within 1 hour.
@ScottWConvid19
@ScottWConvid19 6 лет назад
I've been cutting the wrong way for years. It wasn't until I came across a couple of 2' cherry trees (one hanging into the other) that I thought to capitalize on some safety info on RU-vid. I'm glad I did, because now I'm relearning some basic methods that ate nor common sense until they're taught. Thank you for posting this video. It's mere physics and gravity. Simple.
@PanteraDeNoche
@PanteraDeNoche 6 лет назад
Newbie here and I'd been doing it wrong for a while. Learning what the "hinge" is was a huge eye opener for me on why doing it was wrong. I can't remember the video where I learned that though. This is a good demonstration on it too.
@harrypehkonen
@harrypehkonen 4 года назад
Excellent demonstrations! Makes perfect sense! It's easier to learn and remember if you know the "why".
@dwolfe2907
@dwolfe2907 5 лет назад
I was jusssst about to get into that bad habit- but I'm fixing it today ,thank you so much for this information.
@richardhaen
@richardhaen 5 лет назад
Very good, I have did the angle cut for years, I c now that I was wrong will change the way I fell trees. Been doing it for 60 + years, who says can't teach a old dog new tricks. Thanks
@chrishagerty5467
@chrishagerty5467 7 лет назад
ive been taught and have been cutting trees the wrong way a long long time it appears. everything you just said makes perfect sense and i will be changing my practice from now on thank you
@markschiavone8003
@markschiavone8003 6 лет назад
chris hagerty , what about the barber chair...it looks like every tree he cut with this method resulted in the very dangerous barberchair.
@ScottWConvid19
@ScottWConvid19 6 лет назад
mark schiavone look up how to prevent them. The angle cut is not a safe practice
@mongjedi244
@mongjedi244 6 лет назад
Check out the 5 step felling plan for a nice informative short video. I'm affiliated in zero way shape or form
@user-mp9rd4hg8b
@user-mp9rd4hg8b 6 лет назад
I don't understand. Why would you use an angled cut on such a tiny tree anyway? Angled cuts are for large trees that could pinch the blade and trap your saw.
@Jacob_180
@Jacob_180 6 лет назад
Apparently what he is doing is creating habitat for deer. He knocks the tree over but leaves enough attached so it remains alive. It's not something I'm all that familiar with though. As for angled back cuts on larger trees though, no you don't want to do it there either. I would say the larger the tree the more important this is. The weight of the stem on that sloped cut (as the video shows) can cause it to slide off and do all kinds of unpredictable things. If you're worried (even if you aren't actually - you never know when a slight gust of wind might push the tree back or you might just misread the lean or CG of the tree) about a larger tree setting back and pinching your bar you should have a wedge seated as soon as you have room for it. Then if the tree does sit on your bar you can still wedge it over.
@casselskeep
@casselskeep 6 лет назад
This is exactly the question I wanted answered. Thanks.
@77sierra1
@77sierra1 6 лет назад
Awesome video! Instead of just telling people it's dangerous and wrong you gave the actual details to why. Again awesome video
@magnum8264
@magnum8264 6 лет назад
Thank you for informing people exactly why this is wrong and dangerous to do and how to do it the right way!
@sofjanmustopoh7232
@sofjanmustopoh7232 6 лет назад
Thank you so much . All these piles of advice and tutorial i got from handyman, jobber and old timer . many of them are wrong. My Husqvarna guide said exactly what you said in the video. but all the other oldtimer and mr know it all would not take the advice from the Pro and the chainsaw company. But I AM . thank to your video
@not88me
@not88me 8 лет назад
I knew the angled back cut was dangerous, but you gave some good examples of just how dangerous and why. Nice video, thanks for posting.
@therianstrauss
@therianstrauss 7 лет назад
This was really interesting. Thank you.
@consitutionalconservative6624
@consitutionalconservative6624 6 лет назад
I grew up cutting wood, in Oregon. I have never seen anybody cut a tree down like shown on here. the last two trees dropped are great examples of how a barber chair is formed. We always did a face cut to build the hinge, the back cut would be level. this puts the fulcrum in the middle of the stump, preventing kick-back & barber chairs from forming. the idea is to get it to break clean and have the butt of the tree to follow the top down. I'm talking about trees 3ft in diameter or larger tho....
@dougswett8709
@dougswett8709 5 лет назад
CONSITUTIONAL Conservative granny porn
@ryankc3631
@ryankc3631 5 лет назад
That is exactly what the video advocates.
@mtadams2009
@mtadams2009 5 лет назад
I believe he was only showing the back cut, I think he confused some with the way he explained it.
@brianhanlon9602
@brianhanlon9602 5 лет назад
I"ve never heard of anyone cutting and angled back cut....
@ejleonard
@ejleonard 7 лет назад
Thank you - very much appreciate this advice as a beginner
@stevemiller6766
@stevemiller6766 6 лет назад
Very good demonstration. Thank you!
@pramienjager2103
@pramienjager2103 6 лет назад
Thanks for this. Simple to understand, and informative. It makes perfect, logical sense once you know. I've never fell a tree before, and I may never need to, but if ever I do I will do it correctly.
@Ringof117A
@Ringof117A 7 месяцев назад
I have done the angled cuts a time or two, but it was on small trees, was trying to figure out with a friend, why it was bad to do on big trees and why everyone went to the horizontal cut, you explained well, thanks
@alecmclean9178
@alecmclean9178 7 лет назад
I am a professional climber. I can take down any tree anywhere in the world. I'm here back you up 100% you are absolutely correct. Anyone who picks up a saw and plays with small trees will learn quick. safe felling fellas -alec the amazing arborist
@ExtremeDeerHabitat
@ExtremeDeerHabitat 7 лет назад
Thanks Alec. Always nice to here from a pro.
@obtrees6450
@obtrees6450 7 лет назад
I am also a professional and there is only one good reason for an angled back cut and that is to avoid metal of stone but you have to be sure not to compromise the hinge, so for amateurs stay safe and comfortable you know if you are pushing the boundaries....
@timobrien2738
@timobrien2738 2 года назад
I was taught never ever to cut a back cut angled but couldn’t explain to my buddies why not. Now I can.
@richszweda6691
@richszweda6691 4 года назад
Ditto the previous comment about checking limb weight and lean. If it so happens that the tree is plumb straight vertically and there are more limbs on one side of the tree than the other gravity is going to pull the tree to fall in that direction, possibly regardless of the hinge direction.
@jimmyt5241
@jimmyt5241 5 лет назад
Thanks for this .I have a leaner over a home tommorow .I may apply this method to pull the tree over away from home halfway up the tree .ty
@AlergicToSnow
@AlergicToSnow 6 лет назад
Agreed. I learned from a guy who could, and regularly did, drop a tree wherever he wanted. I saw him drop a tree in a space so small nobody else wanted to try but he had no hesitation going for it.
@benwaddington2186
@benwaddington2186 2 года назад
Superb descriptive analysis. Totally makes sense after that, when it did not necessarily before.
@ViktorBludov
@ViktorBludov 6 лет назад
This was very well explained! thanks
@PinwheelHomes
@PinwheelHomes 6 лет назад
thanks for this video. never felled a tree, but its certainly great to know, especially if I see someone doing it wrong
@kevinbyrne4538
@kevinbyrne4538 7 лет назад
Lesson learned. Thank you !
@domt6973
@domt6973 4 года назад
Angled cuts are used on a tree that is angled forwards. The wedge is cut out of the directional side, you bore through the tree an inch behind the gob to release the forces in the tree then make a severing angled cut to join the rear felling cut to the bore. This prevents barber chairing by the tree and allows for a safe felling of a forward leaning tree. It’s referred to in the uk as a dog tooth cut.
@monir3801
@monir3801 4 года назад
Very informative! Thank you!
@guntherultraboltnovacrunch5248
Love this information. Thankyou.
@vansien
@vansien 7 лет назад
wow I learned something new, thanks for sharing.
@colinsteam
@colinsteam 6 лет назад
Nice explanation, thanks.
@RB216220
@RB216220 7 лет назад
Good video, thanks for the info.
@maddogstemple
@maddogstemple 6 лет назад
those last three cuts were beautiful
@Firedog-ny3cq
@Firedog-ny3cq 10 месяцев назад
Beautifully incorrect and he was just showing off for the camera.
@HogeN1337
@HogeN1337 7 лет назад
always always always train on smaller trees. when feel like you got it try a mediumsize.. if not fall as you wanted go back to smaller trees :)... becouse with smaller trees you always can see what you did wrong and dont hurt you as much.. and main rule. take time it should be fun being out in the woods. after few hours work siting on the logs haveing a coffee =)
@Firedog-ny3cq
@Firedog-ny3cq 10 месяцев назад
With your sage advice, in short order, there would be no more woods to enjoy a coffee in. The felling dynamics are very different between a small-diameter tree and a 100-150 foot, 2-4' diameter monster. Feeling confident about taking down small trees and transferring that confidence to a much larger tree is a good way to get your name in the obits column of the local paper.
@davidm180
@davidm180 5 лет назад
Great video. More people need to be educated with chainsaws, and felling trees. What’s crazy is rental companies rent saws to people with zero operation knowledge.
@wgrangerjr1
@wgrangerjr1 7 лет назад
A few years back, I helped a friend drop some large pines around his house. We used an angle cut on the first one. It hit the house. Lesson learned the hard way!Luckily, it missed hitting his solarium kitchen by about 5 feet.
@connorowens2571
@connorowens2571 7 лет назад
Its 4am why am I watching how to cut a tree
@TheMrkylester101
@TheMrkylester101 6 лет назад
Connor Owens ikr
@justinpopelka1148
@justinpopelka1148 5 лет назад
because you're interested
@retiredarthritic2083
@retiredarthritic2083 5 лет назад
because your bored.
@milat4351
@milat4351 5 лет назад
ikr same at 2 am and I dont even cut trees lol
@skie6282
@skie6282 5 лет назад
Its been 1 year you must have used this info by now
@frugallandlord6974
@frugallandlord6974 4 года назад
He is only demonstrating the back cut in this video I don’t think he is recommending to fell trees without a face cut, great information, I have to admit when I first started felling dead trees for firewood, I made back cuts angled, I also used to cut clean through the hinge, but I was just a kid, and most of the lodge pole pine I cut were as straight as a pool cue, I never had a problem.
@tomd3630
@tomd3630 5 лет назад
This was great. I don't know if I'll be cutting down anymore trees on our property, but if I do, I'll review this first. Wish they'd had RU-vid toots 30 years ago!
@evanmorrow1234
@evanmorrow1234 5 лет назад
I sincerely believe this guy doesn't know what he is talking about and you would be well advised to disregard everything he has said
@SkyKing101010
@SkyKing101010 6 лет назад
Point made and taken. thank you very much.
@jimsteele7108
@jimsteele7108 5 лет назад
Jeff Jepsen knows his stuff and is a great guy.
@Zlinky111
@Zlinky111 3 года назад
Great demo. 👍😁
@PatrickWagz
@PatrickWagz 6 лет назад
great explanation
@1bottlefed
@1bottlefed 7 лет назад
If you look you will see that a major factor in the break when using an angle cut is that as the cut closes the wood in compression/contact is just the very small portion of the outer section of the lower tree, this portion of wood is pushed outward (due to the angle of contact)...you can see this when you look at how the tree split downward/outward. Conversely on a flat cut even though the outside will still contact first the thrust on the wood is totally downward and actually slightly inward, so the likelihood of any splitting is minimal.
@michaeltowler2632
@michaeltowler2632 5 лет назад
I used to cut and manually load timber for a living for Limekilns and was under contract to supply 12 cord a day.I would cut as fast as I could between loads to keep 3 week ahead of my Truck so as it for the Timber get lighter to lift and in big thick Timber. My technique on Trees up to say a foot thick was a quick backhand cut for the notch and staying on the same side do the felling cut, on Trees bigger 10/15 Meters I would still not do a proper notch but a straight cut from the right and then get to the left for the felling cut. the only time I would do a proper notch was if it was a Tree in which was so thick and Tall I had to do Fan cuts or the Tree was straight and perfectly balanced and you had to time the felling cut to coincide with any wind gusts. I think the 3 most important things are getting good at seeing which is the way the Tree wants to fall, putting the notch cut in the right place and the last part of the felling cuts Hinge and when I say Hinge I mean the part where you spike into the Trunk with your Cutterbar/Chainsaw and is uncut and torn out as the tree falls, if done right you can make a Tree move out of its natural falling path as it is falling and go where you wanted it to go . I always did an undercut, however small the tree and were straight as permitted by how low I could cut without taking any time about it. ps. I never ever owned any wedges .
@jamelynch4474
@jamelynch4474 5 лет назад
great info , so many people have told me that bad way to cut .
@Chuck88keys
@Chuck88keys 6 лет назад
I don't cut down trees anymore. Too old for that. Years ago i would notch out the way i want the tree to fall, and then i would do the back cut at an angle, maybe 30-degrees, not 45%^ Worked for me all of the time.
@dalegreen7905
@dalegreen7905 5 лет назад
I am 67 years old and while I may never use this knowledge I find it interesting and may have a conversation with someone to pass along what I have learned before they make a bad decision theirselves . Always share what you know !
@jimthebutcher99
@jimthebutcher99 5 лет назад
But when the information is incorrect as this is I would not recommend it. Works great for a 4 inch tree. Don't try it on a 2 foot tree.
@Firedog-ny3cq
@Firedog-ny3cq 10 месяцев назад
Sharing "wisdom" that you accept as truth from a source other than your own repeated experience is not "sharing what you know". To know something well, you have to have done it yourself many times in many different situations.
@firudu
@firudu 5 лет назад
im currently in training to become a landscaper here in germany (so excuse any wrongly used terminology) and the "new" felling method is apparently to use the chainsaw to make a stabbing cut in the tree, which leaves an "intact" piece of wood at the opposite side of the directional cut. it prevents the tree from falling forwards or backward, and leaves you time to use wedges, and allows you to make the last cut in a standing position, that way your chainsaw never gets stuck in a tree
@wizardsuth
@wizardsuth Год назад
That's called a plunge cut. It's usually not needed, but it is useful for trees that lean or are prone to splitting vertically.
@billyphoenix5139
@billyphoenix5139 7 лет назад
Yeah me too. Very good to learn these tips.
@seanhammer6296
@seanhammer6296 5 лет назад
I'm into Egyptology and ancient religions and philosophy. I have no idea why this was in my feed but it was fun to watch and not have to argue about.☺👍
@mightyconker3903
@mightyconker3903 4 года назад
You would likely be interested in how the Egyptians used geopolymer for the pyramid facing.
@seanhammer6296
@seanhammer6296 4 года назад
@@mightyconker3903 Yes, the Egyptians having built the pyramids is definitely one theory. But they remain enigmatic and mysterious.
@Firedog-ny3cq
@Firedog-ny3cq 10 месяцев назад
Aliens built the pyramids, ancient religions are the cause of every problem on Earth, and Emmanuel Kant is a jackass. There's your argument. Your move.
@erikreally2241
@erikreally2241 3 года назад
Thanks nice explanation...wish me luck on a curved tree branch
@retiredarthritic2083
@retiredarthritic2083 5 лет назад
Interesting fact every tree cut at the end of the video barber chaired this is an indication that the tree was out of control when it fell. Speed is never a good substitute for safety. Hand felling is also a dying art as feller bunchers are much faster and safer than hand felling. Now before anyone decides to comment I was a feller in BC both in the interior and on the coast.
@tribulation138
@tribulation138 6 лет назад
Wtf. I never do angled back cut. But what your teaching I never seen b4 in my life. Face cut or wedge cut first. Then a back cut no more than inch higher then face cut. That's it.
@randy1ization
@randy1ization 5 лет назад
an inch higher than the bottom or top of the face cut?
@evanmorrow1234
@evanmorrow1234 5 лет назад
You are correct in my book cuz that is exactly how I do it and I've cut 100's of trees down. No 2 trees are exactly the same and it can get a little sketchy cutting trees on a slope or 150' douglas firs that are dead can be sort of nerve wracking. I always have visions of a dead tree blowing out as I'm cutting on it 50' up and coming down completely wrong cuz you can never be sure how long the tree has been dead or how much rot is in it or where the rot is exactly. Seems to me that guy would be having a few of his trees barberchairing on his ass . I almost always wrap a chain around larger alder trees so they won't barberchair cuz they're famos for it.
@mikepalmer4371
@mikepalmer4371 4 года назад
texas tough The apex of the face cut
@jackrabbit5047
@jackrabbit5047 6 лет назад
I guess I've been doing it wrong for years. Thanks for posting.
@f87115
@f87115 3 года назад
Holy shhhh I’ve been doing this wrong and dangerous … amazing we are all still alive
@gasaxe6056
@gasaxe6056 6 лет назад
Do one on how to cut hollowed trunk trees. Barber chairs waiting to happen.
@Hp2G1
@Hp2G1 6 лет назад
Clear explanations, and good video. The example you show speak for itself. I wonder why so many thumbs down. Thanks for posting.
@alexbeedie6940
@alexbeedie6940 6 лет назад
Great video
@avidsledder
@avidsledder 5 лет назад
Thank you
@daddyrabbit835
@daddyrabbit835 4 года назад
00:28 That is a great book. I own it and read it often.
@c0ntag10n
@c0ntag10n 5 лет назад
Nice video!
@milkmanpeter
@milkmanpeter 4 года назад
Learning every day
@errlshmirl3130
@errlshmirl3130 5 лет назад
Beautiful. Thanku
@not2tees
@not2tees 6 лет назад
Is the case that a huge tree will require a different approach, or would cutting straight across be the best way for any size of tree?
@Badboyteddybear
@Badboyteddybear 5 лет назад
I love the ending
@WhoDatNation69
@WhoDatNation69 5 лет назад
I honestly don't know how I got hear but I'm glad I did now I know how to properly cut a tree lol I love RU-vid
@Firedog-ny3cq
@Firedog-ny3cq 10 месяцев назад
No, you don't. Not even close.
@alexharris8565
@alexharris8565 4 года назад
So glad I watched this, I learned something here
@libertybarker7401
@libertybarker7401 4 года назад
Alex Harris ** if u learned something it should be that u tube is for intertainment. Do not take advise off u tube! UNLESS U R A DEMONCRAT. ..LOL.
@alexharris8565
@alexharris8565 4 года назад
thanks for that but i'm on the other side of the pond. A lot of what you say is true so i stick with with the music. don't go to far wrong.
@paulg444
@paulg444 5 лет назад
great video but what kind of fool cuts a hing cut, angled or straight almost all the way through the tree. The best way to be safe flat hinge and as many plastic and steel wedges as necessary to insure it falls in the right direction. .
@nancykeslar7656
@nancykeslar7656 5 лет назад
You should show how to notch a large tree when cutting it down-gary keslar
@acalka24
@acalka24 4 года назад
Every single one of those trees barber-chaired...
@sofjanmustopoh7232
@sofjanmustopoh7232 3 года назад
That’s purposely done For deer habitat. His advice stands Don’t angle your back cut . Angled back cut is Inefficient, ineffective and dangerous Heck he know when stop the chainsaw and when to walk away He show lots of experiences in cutting tree
@JasonTate86
@JasonTate86 5 лет назад
You need to add in this video how to stop the barber chair effect on those trees at the end. Your method works great on small trees but someone who does not know could kill themselves with a bigger tree.
@MattsRanger
@MattsRanger 4 года назад
The contrary comments are awesome. Especially regarding OSHA. I wasn’t aware of them being backwards from what works here. They also don’t understand safety eyewear. If safety glasses don’t fit our faces properly or are not properly designed as sideshield issue, they are no better than plain eyeglasses at best. I have had more debris in my eyes from company approved eyewear than any other. Anyway I have some trimming or felling of Spruce-like trees (they are very old & have red sap) to tend to coming up for our yard coming up. 3 are in the lines just a bit.
@rand0minteg3r
@rand0minteg3r 4 года назад
So in the case of a leaning tree (back leaner, let's say), I guess the cut should be "horizontal" not to the ground but with respect to the trunk itself, is that correct?
@tombaker3000
@tombaker3000 4 года назад
Anybody else notice when he yarded on the tree he pulled toward the angle cut? Of course it's going to snap at the angle cut first. It has leverage on the angle.
@jackpine5919
@jackpine5919 4 года назад
YES! A better example would be to show the 2 cuts on 2 different trees. The 90 degree cut just closed up.
@darrenmiller3333
@darrenmiller3333 6 лет назад
I only use an angled cut on ascending limbs if i want them to drop straight down through the canopy (spear cut) seems crazy to fell the main stem (trunk) that way
@stevemiller6766
@stevemiller6766 7 лет назад
Well - I have been cutting wrong for 30 years been far luckier than I deserve. I guess God does look out for fools and children. Thank you a very clear explanation of how to properly do this operation.
@konstantinbodin9936
@konstantinbodin9936 6 лет назад
You example is for sticks because you can do it withouth including wind expositure of terain and so on. Cut fist 2 cuts in direction you want to tree fall then cut from back with stump gap(breaking part), or do bore cut...
@chrisyu98
@chrisyu98 5 лет назад
If the tree trunk is at an angle do you still use horizontal cut?
@grumplepig
@grumplepig 6 лет назад
Well done Sir
@wizardsuth
@wizardsuth Год назад
If you're concerned that the tree might slide backward off the stump, make the back cut *slightly* (e.g. 1 inch) higher than the notch. If you go too high you effectively make the hinge narrower and the tree will fall less predictably.
@shovington67
@shovington67 6 лет назад
It should have been obvious, but it wasn't. Thanks , I learned a lot!
@thechronicgeneralist
@thechronicgeneralist 5 лет назад
The reason why it fails is because the cells have some strength vertically (which is how the hinge slowly degrades as the tree tilts because it rips), considerably more compression strength (which allows the tree to sit on itself as it topples over) but it has very little side shear strength (hence barber chairs). As you're exposing the weight of the tree on the back cut, it isn't able to leverage compression and the weight creates side-tension instead of leveraging compression). This causes horizontal stresses, which will cause tear to the hinge, and a chain reaction can occur resulting in a catastrophic failure of the hinge.
@seanb2300
@seanb2300 8 лет назад
great explanation and examples... thanks!
@adamclark9253
@adamclark9253 7 лет назад
Switch the placement of cuts? Would same results happen?
@ExtremeDeerHabitat
@ExtremeDeerHabitat 7 лет назад
Yes. do it 100 times in either position and the angled cut will break every time. Pure physics, and it is why no professional ever does an angled finishing cut.
@Mystery207
@Mystery207 7 лет назад
i need further elucidation?
@lumberjaxe8910
@lumberjaxe8910 5 лет назад
Just subscribed to you Fellow. Love the Demo, you was shaking a bit, needed a steak and eggs to refuel.
@congamike1
@congamike1 6 лет назад
Thank you for making me safer!!!
@billhughes9480
@billhughes9480 4 года назад
I hope you are still alive if you tried this way.
@Firedog-ny3cq
@Firedog-ny3cq 10 месяцев назад
He didn't. Your experience will do that.
@jarnosaarinen4583
@jarnosaarinen4583 6 лет назад
I'll remember that!
@andrebergeron7540
@andrebergeron7540 7 лет назад
Having cut literally tens of thousands of trees in my career. Taught logging in high school, college, and by the renown logger Soren Erickson, when he was teaching to professionals over 25 years ago. Pros go with the safest and fastest technique. There is no way that a downward cut works, PERIOD. If it did, that is the technique professionals would be using. When your paid by how much wood you produce, not by how long your out there, speed and effectiveness become your priority, and I could explain every reason why but I don't think you want to read several pages of explanation. You will never see a person claiming to be a professional cutting with a downward cut, they are not. Experience, technique, and physics are on my side.
@zandemen
@zandemen 7 лет назад
Have a look at 5:20 at what he is calling conventional hinged cutting. Still impressed?
@realanimal3602
@realanimal3602 7 лет назад
The cuts at 5:20 are discussed in comments. This is done on propose to allow the tree to live and feed wildlife. My father was a logger and fell a great many trees. Tens of thousands??? At the very least. His back cut always had a slight downward angle, maybe about 10 degrees. He could put any tree on the ground within a few inches of where he wanted it. He taught me and my brothers the same technique 35 plus years ago and it has never failed me.
@obtrees6450
@obtrees6450 7 лет назад
We call that hedge laying in the uk, but i guess it makes sense to produce fodder at a grazing level
@stupidhandles
@stupidhandles 7 лет назад
Macks Power that's not conventional hinge cutting is it! so your point is a moot one
@markschiavone8003
@markschiavone8003 6 лет назад
Andre Bergeron , it looks like every tree he cut using this method resulted in the very dangerous barberchair. isn't that dangerous?
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