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Love it. Now I could see how there are some people who might've hated it but it's kind of like the old AMC Pacer. Most if not everyone thought it was ugly. Now more people appreciate it for what it was. Not to say this guitar is in the same class because it would be a Corvette if it were a car. Personally my opinion of the Pacer hasn't changed. I still think it's ugly . This guitar is gorgeous.
2012 was a weird time. Gibson probably struggled a bit with QC because of the earthquakes, tsunamis, and all the other stuff that happened in that movie 😂
Please be warned........... On a finish like this, it will fade and lighten up if exposed to Sun or UV lighting, however it will lighten up due to the blue pigment fading away to a tan/gray finish. The blue pigments in the stain will fade leaving the black/brown base pigment that is mixed/blended to produce the blue. Many early PRS guitars finished in deep blue have also been known to fade out into a tan/gray finish (nowhere near as beautiful as the blue).
I own a 2012 Gibson SG 61 reissue worn Brown with a baked maple fretboard, it's a great guitar, very light weight, long neck tenon, 57 classics, it's definitely a keeper!!!
I had a 2012 LP Classic Custom, with the baked maple board. I was Gibson USA and not a custom shop version. Only difference visually was a lace of back binding. I chaned it to gold hardware and a set of the 490/498 pickups and it was easily on par with a Custom. shop version, which I can say with confidence as I now own a '22 LP Custom 70th anniversary.. They only did the baked maple board for 2012 and after oiling it, it looked and felt like ebony. The other awesome thing, was it weighed lbs10'6 and the balance was great. gutted i had to sell during 2020
I’d bought a 2012 Wine Red Gibson Les Paul Classic Custom when they were new. Baked maple board, front binding, block inlays, the split diamond inlay instead of the crown, 57 Classics. I regrettably sold it after putting it in and off eBay numerous times. I almost bought a second one in Black but they discontinued them right before I was able to. My biggest selling regret 😭
Great Video. I'm into the 2014 models with anniversary inlay at twelve fret marker. The Melody Makers have doubled in value in past year and a half, and I have no idea why.
Pre-historic/Historic/True Historic/Made-to-Measure, is that the pecking order over the years in terms of how accurate the guitars are compared to the old originals from the glory days?
I think i remember seeing this exact les paul on youtube years ago when the original ower first got it and done an unboxing. The matching headstock jumped out at me. Ive been searching for the video ever since but cant find it but nearly sure its the same guitar
I don't think the sun is going to make it lighter. I have a trans blue flame top guitar from 2007, and when you pull the pickguard you can see how much lighter blue it was. Now it has more green in it due to clear coat aging and it made it darker.
I have the 2012 classic custom in wine red. A beast @ over 10 lbs. Regularly oiled, dark, baked maple neck. (Eric Clapton said he switched to Fender because he found the maple necks were smoother - as a carpenter, and someone who has had both maple and rosewood necks-I agree:) Resale value has more than doubled ...It's woke... I love it.
Why you might want a 2012: -The last year they offered "chambered" Les Paul's. So they're light weight and sound like semi hollow bodies despite looking like LP's. -Baked maple fretboards. Great fretboards - the dark ones look similar to Rosewood but offer the slickness of Maple
Great guitar but unfortunately IMO burst bucker makes it sound like a knock off gibson with cheap overtones .Too bad the gamming generations swallow this mind programming technology instead of the deep analog tones we grew up with in the seventies
you really should remove the nut in the interest of the channel. i would be curious if they indeed used a laminated fretboard on this high end CS. If it turns out one piece then you likely gain $1k in value on it
Gibson in general is trash. If you want a Gibson that actually plays and sounds good and can hold a tune longer than 3 notes then just get a cheaper and significantly superior Epiphone.
The 2005-2015 is my favorite era of Gibson. Soooo many random models, signatures, and odd ball components. Im still looking for a 2005 LP Gold Tribal Custom.
I own a 2012 Silverburst Firebird Studio. It has unique pickups that only it has I believe, which have the same firebird magnet build but with some tweaks. I cant really tell about the fretboard quality as it’s finished over, but it plays awesome and sounds amazing! I love it!
It's interesting that people think hide glue is accurate. Real 59s used a combination of urea formaldehyde and fish glue. It's amazing that, for all this obsession over hide glue and the exact pickup spacing, nobody ever seems to notice that the pegheads are inaccurate on all of the reissues. Real Gibsons of that vintage have asymmetrical headstocks with a distinct rounded over edge on the right side. Even the Les Pauls. In other words, few people seem to know what accurate even is, so there's no point in fussing about it. Better to fuss about practice.
No Les Paul and Epiphone the Gibson Les Paul wouldn't even exist today period....Les Paul began construction on what would become the Log in 1939 after befriending Epiphone owner Epi Stathopoulo. Epi gave Les the keys to the company’s New York factory, where Les worked on the design after hours. His somewhat crude invention consisted of a four-inch by four-inch block of pine, on which he attached a neck, bridge and pickups. He played the instrument live but people were initially bewildered by its unorthodox appearance. No matter. Les Paul had a clever response. The luthier cut an Epiphone hollowbody in two and attached the two halves to either side of his four-by-four-inch slab. It was now essentially a through-neck construction, only with a separate neck piece. But, crucially, it looked not unlike a regular guitar. Its central pine slab also reduced feedback issues and increased sustain, while the guitar also featured a vibrato bridge patented by Doc Kauffman, the Vibrola. This is the Log as we know it.
Love thus guitar. Loved it so much I bought it. Thanks Trogly I am so happy with everything. It plays great its my flagship of my electrics. It's gorgouse.
My 2015 Classic in Manhattan Midnight has a “roasted” maple fretboard. It looks and plays amazingly and would probably be close to last LP of mine I’d get rid of.
They actually used Baked maple on a lot of fretboards during 2012. Mine is baked maple and it’s amazing! Super smooth and dark. I have 0 issues with 2012s
I've never heard of issues with 2012 Gibsons, weird that guitar forums would have complaints about 2012 models in 2016 when 2015 models were instantly hated upon unveiling them.
This is why I have a hard time justifying a current custom shop Gibson. I could spend top dollar for a 2023 59 reissue Les Paul today thinking I’ll have the closest thing to a real vintage 59 Les Paul. Yet, in just a few years Gibson will add some tweak or change and say…actually, this newer version is even more accurate and the one I bought isn’t up to date. It’s never ending and even current versions lack true old growth mahogany, Brazilian rosewood or the old nitro formula. I think I’m more inclined to take a great playing 2012 or early 2000s one with it’s “less accurate” specs at a deal.
Yeah, I've had 8 Gibsons over the years (5 currently, played many more) from many different decades: 40s, 70s, 80s, and a handful from 2011-2020. What I discovered about myself and details is that I don't particularly care about them if they're not noticeable. Long neck tenon? Honestly? I have no idea if it makes a difference and I have a Les Paul with one and a Les Paul without. Hide glue? Whatever. Brazilian rosewood? My L-50 has that. Does that make a difference? Beats me. What matters to me is if it looks rights, feels right, and sounds right. I played a 78 Deluxe that felt awful. I've played Epiphones that felt great. And I'm honestly not sure what it is that's the determining factor but I know it isn't the glue. Probably something simple like the neck profile. Lol
Don’t think it’s accurate to say that an 8lbs 4-5oz Les Paul Reissue “had to have been spec’d out as a lightweight one”. Agreed, it’s lighter than average but I have a 1957 Goldtop Reissue from 2018 that wasn’t a special lightweight one that actually weighs a fraction under 8lbs! I have a few standard run ones in the 8.25-8.5lbs range like the one in the video. It’s really not all that rare during the 2010s to current era. I’d say it’s relatively unusual nowadays for a Les Paul reissue to come in over 9lbs.
Yeah it seems like the only models that didn't have a drop in quality during the Norlin era were the semi-hollows. The 70s 335/345/355s play and sound very nice, although the 5 piece maple necks look a bit goofy
Some people whine about the lack of HHG on 2012. I have a R7, weihgs 3948g and is absolutely fantastic guitar. Only mod i had to do was to replace pickup rings to lower versions. Mine has a low serial so it might even have a 1piece fretboard, but it really does not matter.
Nice, if you get a 2013 or 14 . They made a cheap les Paul called a Jr, but ha# all the same as a upgrade to studio with 490 and498 pus trapezoid inlays belly carved
If you’re properly laminating wood together you slather the glue on both sides like you’re putting mayo on bread for a sandwich. There’s no way they just put 22 (or 44) little dots of glue up the fretboard. 😂 I guess we can call these pancake fretboards?
My 2012 Gibson Studio Shred is AWESOME! I LOVE the Original factory Floyd, the quality is amazing.. never had an issue, it's my favorite.. over my 17 Standard.. over my 18 SG HP II.. It is my go-to and has been for 5-6 years now.
I own a 2012 Standard, has a very flame figured top in light burst. Swapped the pickups out for a custom set and it's one of the best Gibsons I have played ever including a few custom shops. Feels lovely to play, Don't believe the hype they are no good. I'm never selling this one it's a keeper. I've had a few mats play it and they tell me to let me know if I want to sell.
for me the important thing about a '59 reissue are the specs... the hardware, electronics, the glues, etc... but getting a different color or a nicer tops (such as a quilted) is a bonus, makes it more unique.
Gibson’s cancellation case claims that both the PAF and Double Cream marks owned by DiMarzio no longer apply. It makes the following main arguments: Gibson takes priority over DiMarzio for both marks, because it was selling guitars with double-cream humbuckers and using “patent applied for”/PAF before DiMarzio was even founded.
Funny how those crappy bumble bee caps are popular in guitars. I restored a lot of electronic test and calibration gear and if I found some bumble bees I threw them away and replaced them by decent caps. (Black beauties are as bad) both types leak, drift a lot in value and have a high ESR.
The whole reason why Gibson did what they did in “2012” was because “US Customs” in there infinite wisdom confiscated all of there Indian rosewood fretboard material “Something to do with Indian Workers were only allowed to finish the fretboard’s to a certain point then Gibson was going to do the final finishing, absolutely absurd reasoning and this wasn’t the only time US Customs has stopped shipment bound for Gibson USA , Wow talk about throwing a spanner in the works at least Gibson survived the onslaught of “2012” like a Phoenix Bigger and so much better in 2013 and what a spectacular year that was for Gibson USA …..
