why are people tired of emma chamberlain’s podcast? 

And elitism doesn’t apply here. I’d take all the suggestions positively in her shoes.

I was going to say that, I went to college and it changed me 120%, I don't think is a bad thing to say this to her giving the fact that she can afford to study, it's not like sis is gonna get a loan to pay her tuition. College makes you different in so many different ways, that's why so many Hollywood celebrities still goes to college even thought they already have a career.

I mean, any course on whatever she's interested in could help her with mental stimulation. like, she could take a drumming course with other people and get to interact with others. not everyone needs college.

college who, girlie left high school... which was my immediate thought after seeing the title bc thats way she seems so out of touch, shes not really educated and yeah, i hope she earned enough money to continue where she stopped, at age 16,5

This! Also seems like she has so many thoughts that could benefit from her learning how to coherently organize and present them. I think she’s naturally intelligent. Most people go to college these days, but Emma seems to have a temperament that really thrives in higher ed.

She’s famous. She cannot have a regular school experience.

@@3tarbutterfly Maybe somewhere in Asia? She's not globally famous so there's a chance. Also there are entire online courses you can do from anywhere. She has the money for every possible option if she was interested.

I think it's also because college helps you a lot with research techniques and organising your points in an effective and coherent way. It's not about being condescending and saying Emma needs to be smarter, it's more so about improving the way she researches and expresses herself. That's the type of thing that college is excellent for.

@@3tarbutterflyi went to college with famous people and many sons/daughters of celebrities, in my experience people just mind their business in college classes and leave them be

@@3tarbutterfly lots of celebrities actually are able to do college successfully, not exactly sure how but I know of lots of famous people who went to college after being famous and were able to graduate

the sleepover metaphor thing is so accurate

This is so real, wtaf hahahahaha

i think i entirely missed the sleepover w bestie phase, this is the same vibe i’ve got consistently from her tbh 😭 i used to think i was crazy

Intelligence and education is not the same thing. You can be of average intelligence and have good education, just as you can have a high IQ (intelligence) by nature but no education.

i fully agree

what if she thought that she had something important to say and had the courage to put it out there. Maybe she thought it was interesting her audience just didn't I just wonder if she's making this content for herself or for a specific audience

You’d do it too for a check! 😂

@msmiami212 fr, these people don’t realise how podcasting is a money making machine. Even if THEY don’t want to listen to Emma there will still be dozens of middle schoolers who will hang onto her every word and that is enough,

most podcasters dont have anything interesting to say and just ramble on for 3 hours

anything goes was pretty popular back when she was still working with rambles because she didn't necessarily talk about "philosophical" discussions nd instead focusing on talking about her growth, her interests nd her personal life. there's also episodes where she'd read questions asking for advice and give her own opinion about the situation. the reason why this was so big was because it felt more personal and it felt like we were getting to know emma more. i think this was lost after she started drifting away from this and started to focus on how *big* this podcast can be. it's lost its personality & that's why i think alot of people enjoy it less now .. (other than claims that the video states) so i doubt that emma just wanted to start a podcast for the sake of it. maybe when she first started it wasn't going well but she began to try another kind of podcast (anything goes) that she and her audience actually enjoy

Yess! I never thought it was about the degree I think Emma Chamb. just needs to find a place where she can learn to critically think around others her age. I get why some people like her live in an echo chamber because she’s in an environment where everyone round her is rich and privileged. She isn’t “stupid” she’s just unaware.

Exactly this

CD

Exactly

I think it all got bad when she signed with Spotify, because it makes her obligated to post a podcast in a certain time, running out of subjects and all that

agreed but also i think personally, as a college student in my final year, life is starting to get much more fast paced and when i talk to someone who’s not a friend or someone intimate that rambles a lot, it just feels like i’m wasting my time and need to get on with other things. it’s fine that emma didn’t go to college, but people who are working and live normal lives aren’t going to resonate with a 20 something year old who hangs out in her closet and rambles for an hour

I think she’s just growing up

And it’s change and people are angry at her change but maybe it’s just not for you anymore

@@libertywrn

Exactly. I didn’t agree with her take much either. Especially when she said it was delusion. Maybe for some circumstances, but really, the honeymoon phase is just a new exciting phase of love. Just bc you get use to your partner and that excitement eventually calms down,, doesn’t mean it’s a “delusion”.

You put that into words so beautifully! Thank you for restoring my faith in love and relationships! I really needed it!

Are you married after 6 years of being in a relationship? Girl, men don't need that long to figure out if they want to marry you for life. I know you won't listen but men don't wait more than 1-2 years to marry a woman they really want. You might not be bored but he is dragging you along.

@@la6136 I’m 22 😭 we started dating when we were 16 LMAO Edit: also, not a man 🧍‍♂️

@@la6136 dude chill out you don’t know every man on the face of this earth. You’re making a huge generalization. Some people are happy and don’t need to get married to prove that.

i agree with your last point! i wish i touched more on that in the video. i think not opening up to her audience is limiting how much she explores these topics which leads back to her circling around the point - since, she doesn't have much to explore.

I dont knwo how middle class she ever was to live in SF and go to a fancy 30k a year private highschool.

true but she dropped out of high school so I dont think she would even consider college idk

@@dianeyoung8130 oh damn 😭 I didn't know that. All I knew is she was rich.

@@alexandrakorenova9680 i wasn't sure if she dropped out or not but I didn't want to assume. but that explains a lot.

she didn't even edit her videos before she quit for at least like 2 years lmao

She’s so freaking boring.

if you listened to her podcast at the beginning, i think she lost her passion for editing due to it being linked to her job so the podcast was a breath of fresh air. it was SO good at first so i’m sad to hear it’s gotten stale. i hope she finds her passion again bc she is really a strong creative voice

If I remember correctly, she said on one of the episodes that she partly stopped making the videos because it was unsafe for her to keep filming herself all the time. Plus I'm pretty sure she probably got tired of making the videos as she got older

yeah videos translate much better than podcasts for her

If I was as rich and had all the free time in the world I’d just keep studying😭 it would be so much fun. I dont get it why influencers never do that honestly

@@ceci1017exactly!! And they have so much less to lose if they struggle with it. For everyone else we are worried if we fail that we will never build a career and lose money, but they already have a career and money so they can take the classes with a more laid back approach instead of feeling like everything in their life rides on them graduating with a degree.

exactly my thoughts

@@ceci1017I agree

literally, I think people are looking into it too much. Like it's literally just her perspective and opinion and sharing her thoughts. I love the adhd side tangents and chaotic lack of structure haha

@@lrose.33 yes, love the chaotic vibes. adhd gang✨🥰

YES THIS. people are expecting way too much out of the podcast. I'm just listening to a friend have thoughts and work through their own stuff. I'm not listening to learn anything. I'm listening to have a silly chat with my friend

i would agree with this! i think it’s just depending on what the larger is looking to get out of it

yeah, on those episodes she sounds like she's excited about what she's talking about, whereas on the philosophical ones it always seems to turn monotone

Also she definitely has way more experience in the fashion world than other people so in terms of areas of expertise, that would be much better suited to podcast style content. I don't want to come off as hateful but she genuinely seems like she has no idea what she's talking about in terms of philosophy. Most of the stuff she says is stuff that I started thinking about when I was like 12, and so did the rest of the people I know.

True, she should have picked a niche and stayed with it, that’s the easier way to gain and keep an audience. If you keep flipping, people aren’t going to tune in as much. Even if you’re a big name like her with a built in audience already.

agreed! she has to stick to the things she is knowledgeable and good at, like fashion. talking about philosophy and educational/controversial topics is clearly not her forte.

these are my favourite ones, too

She’s mentioned multiple times that it became unsafe for her to be filming and sharing her personal life. That’s why she doesn’t seem relatable and stopped making YT videos.

As someone in 2nd year of college I would say, if college was what it was supposed to be everyone should go there, but as it stands (or at least in my college) there's very little critical thinking, even fewer discussions or debates with people in class. They do teach how to find good and accurate scientific articles, but other than that college has been quite disappointing for me in terms of actual learning. There are other great things though.

This is so well put and absolutely true!!

@@shanouboubou you’re going to a pretty bad college then and that’s not the norm btw . Even community colleges encourage debates.

@@shanouboubouid probably agree with you if I was still a sophomore. Large (100+ ppl) general education courses don’t often spark deep conversations, neither do many stem courses. Smaller humanities, social sciences, arts, or education courses are where I’ve had the discussions that many people think Emma would benefit from. Typically these are major or minor specific and often in your third/fourth(or fifth) year. Even at a very large state school, there were usually under 25 people in these types courses for me.

just cause it worked for u, doesn't mean it's gonna be helpful for her.

i do think half of her podcast audience has outgrown her. emma’s podcast would definitely do better if she discussed how her experiences shapes her opinions on these “philosophical” topics. i don’t think viewers get much out of it when she doesn’t share much about herself!

I feel like even if she went to college it still wouldn't be a real experience because she is famous and we all know how fake people are especially in the USA where being famous and clout is really important

@@mitza420 emma watson went to college, malala went to college, all insanely famous and recognizable people. it'd be interesting to everyone for the first few weeks then they'd get over it tbh ultimately she'd get an authentic experience

Yes. I feel like she only "knows" her own opinion.

Yeah im in the same boat with you, i used to listen as soon as a new episode would come out, She made me giggle and feel good when sharing her creativity or discoveries. I feel bad seeing her change but like you said we can’t blame her, its all just coming together after her move to LA and fusing with higher celebrity culture. Its weird being aware her fans are collectively feeling a shift. Like u said she just isn’t relatable to most of us with her million dollar home and milk machine lmao

Did she deserve all the money and success? Did she work very hard? No, she got lucky posting random videos on youtube. That's all. She didn't work hard and definitely not deserve it. Who is she? An influencer. Person who got lucky on social media and is famous.

Edwd

+ a podcast shouldn't always have to be educational, I mean its a podcast at the end of the day.

@@yanewhat8647yea but she instead tries to make them educational

Literally why I listen to her. I also skipped a few episodes because they didn’t connect to me. Idk why people are so like upset like if you don’t like it don’t listen ?? LOL

@@alexwintercast1381I think you’re misled. Emma has never claimed to be an expert about anything… well maybe fashion lol. She’s not trying to ‘educate’ her audience. The only learning that happens really is emotional or personal growth.

@@christinamendoza3690 "Idk why people are so like upset like if you don’t like it don’t listen ?? " Literally watched a video two days ago about how detrimental it is to art and all content really to claim every criticism was hate and people should just ignore it if they don't like it. People like you are in a bubble and that is exactly what people don't want Emma to do for the rest of her life. Her developement seems stifled and there are easy ways to fix that.

exactly. And that's why she's kinda "stuck" in her own mindset/opinions

LMFAO real, she's saying a whole bunch of nothing

Ion my opinion it gets annoying because I’m like… there’s no way you or anyone listening actually cares abt this

@@coolpumpkins453 fair criticism - just don’t listen to them then - i like them for backg noise when i’m home alone

I like them because they're peaceful to me, it's just like a rambly adhd mind dump and I enjoy it when I need something chill

I just wanna say this critique right here is 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

"you cannot do anything consistently, over a long period of time, without structure/planning/support" this!!

Well said

Emma is rich af. Cost doesn't apply in this situation

omg im in ed recovery and i agree so much

could you elaborate more on the part of her content being triggering ed vibes, please? if you feel comfortable ofc, it's just that i've never followed emma much so i'm curious

You know whats crazy? When I stopped watching her years ago and reflected on her content, I had the same thoughts. And for a long time, I thought she had an ED, but I never said anything cause it’s rude to assume…

@@miichelle19she’s admitted to having struggled with an eating disorder in the past. I think a big portion of her content that was triggering for me in the past when I watched her is just seeing how little she would eat during the day, her doing mini body checks throughout her videos, and how she would talk about food. She also would mention that she never cared much about how she looked in terms of hair or makeup, but she cared deeply about the state of her body, because that’s what made her feel pretty. Emma likely is still struggling but it’s harder to see now since she doesn’t post videos.

?? where did she say she did & what procedure

So true, she is a human and she no doubt has a lot going on.

Wait what? Did Emma and Role Model break up?

@@caitlingillword on the street

Agreed! Not everything has to be like serious and backed-up. Also, the romantic love ep really isn't a good representation of Anything Goes..

this!!! I learned about critical thinking from bobo and flex, not college hahha

Reading certain books can also help. Or reading in general, for the most part. I searched it up, and apparently reading helps create empathy in people and can help provide a different point of view on topics for readers.

@@katgreer6113 Oh yeah for sure! I just know Emma has never been one for the whole school setting and I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure she stated when she was still doing her school vlogs that she hates reading, but obviously that definitely could of changed. Just starting out though especially when she’s never really excelled in the school setting I think watching videos could be more beneficial starting out :)

...I think that's its a little patronizing to tell someone to learn by watching Ted talks. At best all you would get from that is someone else's interpretation of any particular idea or concept. A lot of Ted talks are terrible as well, I think the point of the whole "go to college" thing is that going to college offers you the opportunity to become better at discerning the quality of the information you are processing. You learn about how to think in a systematic way that allows you to have a particular perspective about things that you may not have otherwise had prior to your college education. It's not to say that perspective is superior but it can have certain benefits. Obviously tons of people go to college and aren't able to really work within the relatively rigid way in which college teaches you to think, and it doesn't make you dumb if you're that type of person, it just means college isn't for you and that is also completely fine. There's a million ways to learn about the world and understand more complex concepts but I think that it's pretty clear that Emma just doesn't have the ability for the higher order analysis required to take on heady topics because why would she? Her brand is relatable teen who's cooler than you. That's not exactly the person I want to hear explaining scientific facts to me. It doesn't make any sense

I think that while I agree college doesn’t make you smarter, it forces you to interact with so many people and different opinions that you would have to try very hard to be purposefully obtuse. In terms of you aren’t in this echo chamber. Ofc this isn’t true for every university, some universities especially the more expensive ones have a very specific demographic but I went into college and I feel like a benefit was not being in this echo chamber, I came across different people different opinions and it helped me not only be more open minded but able to better articulate my side. That being said u don’t need to go to college to get those experiences it’s just the easiest way. But I agree it does not make you smarter or have better critical thinking skills, especially in America. There are some DUMB people out there with full on degrees. The benefits of college outside of the degree, you have to actually try and seek them out.

i think what a lot of people mean by emma needs to go to college is that emma is basically in an influence bubble surrounded by a bunch of other people her age who are just influencers, musicians, and actors. and she has all these thoughts and stuff in her head but can only really see them through the lens of an out of touch influencers. so i think college would help her a lot bc she’d get to explore these thoughts and discuss them with people other than influencers or celebrities

i would (respectfully ofc!) disagree. i am a college dropout (it just wasnt for me) but i still firmly believe she would really benefit from time in college classes. if you watch the full tiktoks of the clips used earlier in the video you'll see there really isnt the elitist energy you mentioned, just wanting emma to see her full potential. the ways in which she could make her podcast better (outlining, doing prior research) are skills learned and honed in college, hence where this sentiment is coming from: she could benefit from the tools college provides. i dont think anyone is framing emma as dumb, shes clearly a smart girl. she has been out of the schooling system for the better part of a decade but she's *clearly* got a "yearning for learning" mindset that everyone in this discussion can agree on. THATS where this suggestion comes up. i think people are really just recognizing that many of the topics she touches on are genuinely very surface level (whether it sounds rude or not, its true) and that bouncing these ideas around with other educated people her/our age might help her come to the realization that there's more complex and interesting thoughts and themes underneath, that we'd LOVE to hear her thoughts on! there is nothing wrong with encouraging others to expand their education, i know many people are upset by the idea because college as a whole is a very touchy topic, understandably so. i respect that it is not for everyone, however if this many people are independently saying that it might be a good idea for her, then maybe its worth discussing, and maybe it's not all from a place of jealousy and/or arrogance. emma's smart. we see that. we want her to cultivate that because we care. we see how its provided academic sustenance for others like her. she seems stagnant or like she's hit a wall, so we're suggesting this as an option for how emma can best achieve the philosophical podcast she clearly desires. emma needs to go not for us, not for the podcast, but for herself. i hope you can consider this point of view, because this is really what the argument boils down to! have a good day

@@anais9263 hey, this comment feels a little disingenuous, you've got to recognize that youtube tutorials and google searches cannot provide what real life experiences provide. the practicality of life cannot be learned on the internet. and do you think emma hasnt already done google searches about her topics? or read books about them? she absolutely has! it seems like emma is so desperately is craving a socratic seminar, unfortunately she just doesnt know what that is yet... which is where the suggestion for continued education comes from. there are certain things only learned and earned through *community* education. emma practices a lot of "ideating" and college is a place to learn how to fully form her thoughts into real presentable ideas - learned through professors with decades of skill and peers that have different life experiences from her own. it seems like the route she's taking with her podcast is exactly that: presenting and exploring ideas. emma clearly wants more out of life than can be found online, most of us do. she's touched almost every mountaintop, so higher education might be her final frontier. i hope you can consider this perspective. education is not the enemy! anti-intellectualism is!

@@nina_sayers those are good points and i think that’s where the original argument was coming from. i think i was thinking more of the people who latched onto that initial idea and used it as a way to feel above her or encompass the idea that she can sound uneducated in her podcast episodes.

@@3llielou that's certainly valid! there's unfortunately always going to be a few bad apples. i'm just offering the perspective that the vast majority of those expressing the idea of wanting her to go to college have emma's best interest in mind... even if its selfishly to make the podcast they listen to a little more enjoyable! thanks for understanding :)

@@nina_sayersno one’s reading all that 😂

Can you give examples?

@@tiaslays255 not OP but I'll give an example. College isn't about regurgitating unsubstantiated opinions, it's about locating information to support one perspective, then information that opposes that perspective, and weighing the two against each other to form a nuanced perspective. You learn to critically read sources and note their biases or shortcomings. For example, the topic of divorce rates is one that isn't just related to love, it's about the entire context which includes societal norms, economic, legal, and religious allowances. It isn't accurate to talk about divorce rates without also considering marriage rates and ability for adult individuals (especially women) to live alone. Only a few decades ago women couldn't hold bank accounts without their husband or father's permission, so people stayed in marriages as they didn't have options. It's probably fine to hold opinions on things without investigating them deeper but it's not unchallengable.

​@@WinterWindThe reason for divorce is to stop feeling love, the only difference is that now it is easier to get divorced if they judge you.

Dang, I hope your friends don’t see this lol. I feel for them.

aww im so happy for you! i hope we all find a love like this ❤

Congrats! Hope we all find something like that one day! 😍🥰

I second this! Found it very engaging, and am not usually one to watch these either!

ditto!!

This is coming from someone who also used to enjoy the podcast but now it has just become boring, but that doesn’t mean I should devote my time and energy into expressing why I don’t like it. You simply move on to the next thing…

@@useruser20802I understand where your coming from but I think critiquing entertainment/ giving ur opinion on it is completely valid and fine! The only thing I would have issue with is if the commentary on it was hateful which I don’t believe this video is.

@@useruser20802also voicing criticisms in a constructive way can actually help the person who’s content your criticizing and get a sense of why your audience is shrinking/growing. It’s there for her if she wants to take it 🤷‍♀️

I think the same, pretty mature for a 22 y/o

Yep, I loved her videos because they were very entertaining visually, I don't really care to hear her views on all kinds of different things solely. Not that there is anything wrong with it, I'd just rather see videos from her

Just came back from listening to the new Brittany broski podcast. I’m dead she literally talked about the whole going to college thing 💀