Why are UK trains so expensive?

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Discover the reasons why UK trains are so expensive in this informative and insightful video. Learn about the factors contributing to the high cost of train travel in the UK, including government regulations, infrastructure costs, and competition. Explore the impact of privatization and the role of train operators in setting prices. Get all the latest information on UK train fares, ticket prices, and the challenges facing the railway industry. Stay informed and up-to-date on the latest developments in the UK rail network, and find out why it's so important to have a reliable and affordable train system.
The high cost of UK trains is a major concern for many travelers, with fares often being much higher compared to other modes of transportation.
Government regulations and infrastructure costs are key factors contributing to the high cost of train travel in the UK.
Privatization has also played a role in the pricing of train fares, with private train operators having significant control over ticket prices.
Despite the high cost, a reliable and affordable rail network is essential for the success of the UK railway industry.
Efforts are being made to improve the affordability of UK trains, but the impact of government regulations and infrastructure costs remains a challenge.
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@bigmanted9864 Год назад

As an enthusiast, EVERYTHING IS WRONG

@ajfrostx Год назад

Literally, not a single right thing said 😂

@uituituituituituit Год назад

Plus flying is heavily subsidised which is also part of the provlem

@RightAwayProductions005 Год назад

I mean, privatisation has to have at least something to do with it, right?

@portaltaker Год назад

nah fully had my fists clenched this whole vid XD

@delboy74 Год назад

100pc privatisation. Should be a publicly owned service like in the rest of Europe.

@ramblingracheltrailtales Год назад

Act like private businesses? They are private businesses!

@sublivion5024 Год назад

actually quite a lot of them are not private businesses, and the ones which are run by private businesses are regulated extremely strictly by the government. they are not allowed to set fares to whatever they want, nor are they responsible for maintaining infrastructure. this video is a load of shit.

@Gamer_2047_ Год назад

They need to pay for staff too💀😐

@awaisrafiqueahmed Год назад

But paid for by taxpayer as they are all subsidies.

@sublivion5024 Год назад

@@awaisrafiqueahmed so is every form of transportation, including cars and planes

@kirstybrown1185 Год назад

You missed the part about regulations though, the point is that most private businesses don’t have as many limits to them for costs, like train companies do. When they get the freedom to act like private businesses, they do, which is why it makes more sense to word it the way they did, while talking about the bigger picture.

@Minimum_Volts Год назад

The first paragraph on Wikipedia for privatisation is more informative than this video.

@Boxersteavee Год назад

The first paragraph on any wikipedia page is more informative.

@kirstybrown1185 Год назад

Soooo, you’re saying the video was as pointless as this comment? Love how ironic people are proud of their irony 😅

@StoutProper Год назад

It’s a pr video for train companies

@arnoldbeyel-0374 2 месяца назад

@ocelotdude8889 9 дней назад

Ok buddy

@emily1 Год назад

Partially false. Train companies are not responsible for infrastructure. Network Rail is. The only TOC in the UK with responsibility for infrastructure is Translink.. and they get by just fine charging considerably less than the average British ticket. It’s just price gouging. There is no doubt about it and no point hiding it as ‘just making money’. The standard ticket you actually pay for combines a fee between Network Rail, and any other operators on the route (unless you get a example of say a TPE only railcard which is slightly cheaper) Higher demand would lead to smaller fares as money would be more frequent and therefore lead to higher profit margins, not the complete opposite Reversing privatisation is unlikely to solve the problem. A company still requires executives public or private, and there’s nothing stopping them getting greedy - Irish Rail is a perfect example of a publicised gouging mess And with all that being said, I will always remember how unlimited travel on the Manchester Metrolink network is cheaper than a off peak return you can only use twice

@Boxersteavee Год назад

Train companies are also keeping loads to themselves. £70 for a month ticket for an under 16 just between Durham and Newcastle.... And the train drivers are on strike... Soooo how much is the company keeping?

@janjelinek4283 Год назад

@@JMiskovsky Yeah I really like the system. Trains are incredibly cheap in Czechia.

@alfi_csgo6011 Год назад

Overall a good explanation but I’m going to just pick on a couple things: 1. By “tpe only railcard” I assume you mean “tpe only ticket” aka a walk-up fare ticket only valid on one train operating company? 2. Higher demand wouldn’t mean cheaper fares. In fact we have seen prices on more demanded routes increase significantly versus routes with lower footfall. This is because there is limited capacity for passengers to travel on any route and as such a great way for train operating companies to make more money is to simply charge more for journeys that (typically) the commuters simply must pay. Take for example my local line, the PDL (aka Portsmouth to London Waterloo via Guildford- a line with extremely high footfall but reasonably low capacity). The line has increasingly become more expensive to travel on simply because more people need to travel on it.

@MaximilianvonPinneberg Год назад

@Zockblatt Shickleblender not true, many routes and services closed after BR and the rail became private.

@johntwigg3714 Год назад

Emily, you’re just an apologist for Privatisation. What about the train leasing companies taking millions and doing nothing. The service is rubbish, you might want to try it some time rather than shouting from your ivory tower.

@louisr5708 Год назад

"train companies act like private businesses and charge whatever they want" - that's exactly the point... they don't act, they ARE, and so they do...

@sublivion5024 Год назад

except this is completely wrong - the government strictly controls what they can charge

@cjatruckphotos Год назад

Most are*

@panzerofthelake506 Год назад

UK rail is controlled by a corporation, and other private players aren't allowed to build rail. This is a government monopoly not a private industry.

@no_soy_rubio 5 месяцев назад

The government control the fares

@herrglotzenschnitzengruber1510 Год назад

Shareholders are the biggest cost, upgrades are paid for by TAX PAYERS.not private rail companies

@jsoftj Год назад

Erm. I think you will staff costs are the biggest actually.

@willbxtn Год назад

If you took all the dividends paid out by the companies that own the TOCs last year and used that put that towards ticket prices, you'd reduce every fare for each journey taken last year by a grand total of 34p. Nearly all the problems with UK rail are the responsibility of the government.

@rosiemuller5255 Год назад

@@jsoftjtrain staff are payed minimum wage and under the inflation rate ,wages are not the biggest expense especially with staff cuts due to strikes asking for a reasonabe wage and working conditions

@lq3552 11 месяцев назад

@@willbxtnit's hilarious that you think that. The ineffieicny of having multiple rail companies running tracks, all of which want to pass costs onto each other (and to customers subsequently) , and makes everything inefficient, massively increases costs of tickets. This should all be renationalized

@Gigachad-mc5qz 9 месяцев назад

@@jsoftjbro are you serious???

@dsgarden Год назад

Its just a matter of gov: in Germany it's very cheap because the gov subsidizes it. In the UK, its not

@keithdukes5990 Год назад

Exactly, the truth is you pay through the nose in Britain for everything down to pure greed by private company's!!!

@LondonAndy70 Год назад

@@keithdukes5990 no, the fact that it's cheap elsewhere is down to other governments subsidising the fares more!

@saw6386 Год назад

and the uk is right not to.

@JAYJAY-ch4ik Год назад

Subsidising is bad for the population. Why? It becomes dependency and you adults become infants. It created a evil cycle any time a new government wants to do right for the country and rid it of burden you guys, it can’t because it will never get popular vote removing benefits and handouts to people. That’s what causes the decline in the western world. Over reliance on government subsidies which drags down state coffers simple as that. And the reason why asia is on the rise is due to self dependency and survival while government focus on instituting policies

@marcin959 3 месяца назад

Most of UK rail is high speed. High speed rail in Germany is also expensive

@LunarPenguin42 Год назад

Public transport turns to shit once you expect it to make money. Its a service to the public not a business.

@rothbardfreedom Год назад

A business is the a service for the public. Business exist exactly for that - that's how they make money, by providing a service that a person values more than the money they give. Economics 101

@slavvy.mp4884 Год назад

@@rothbardfreedom by that ancap-ass logic I'm gonna start charging you the full construction and maintenance cost for going outside and using the public infrastructure like the pavement, as its technically a service and if you don't pay for it, it will technically be a expense that won't provide any profits. See how dumb that sounds? Public services shouldn't be for-profit.

@Gigachad-mc5qz 9 месяцев назад

@@rothbardfreedombusinesses dont exist to provide a good service. They exist to make as much money as possible with no regard for anything else

@thecrimsondragon9744 7 месяцев назад

@@rothbardfreedomLet me guess. You're one of those who profiteer off the current mess our trains in. No other reason to peddle bare-faced lies.

@rothbardfreedom 7 месяцев назад

@@thecrimsondragon9744 Oh, an ad hominem that you don't even know it's true? A great argument indeed, congrats...

@robharris8844U Год назад

"ONE OF THE OLDEST RAILWAY NETWORKS IN THE WORLD" The railway was invented in UK! 😂😂

@The_Chicken_One Год назад

The tube is the oldest but there are newer ones

@transportenthusiast11 8 месяцев назад

@@The_Chicken_OneThe oldest what?

@holidaytripsholidaytrips7254 Год назад

The train companies here in the U.K. are owned by foreign companies. You’ll find rail fairs are far cheaper in Europe as by charging us extortionate amounts of money for tickets these companies can then charge far less in Europe. In short our high fairs subsidise low fairs in Europe.

@holidaytripsholidaytrips7254 Год назад

@@ajfrostx Xenophobia? Wow! Just WOW! Xenophobia.

@ThePretentious1 Год назад

I get what he’s saying in a way, national rail companies of other countries own rail companies here. That isn’t inherently bad, the reason it is though is because of how we regulate and permit the franchises owned by these companies.

@josephstevens5489 Год назад

@@ajfrostxwhy not address what was being said rather than attack the poster ad hominem? Or do you just want to virtue signal?

@josephstevens5489 Год назад

@@ajfrostx the original poster's point was foreign companies owned the vast majority of British rail which is why uk trains are so expensive, you don't deny that and you agree that's a true point (I haven't done the price comparison of entirely uk owned routes if they even still exist). Yes selling them off was a terrible idea and the blame originates there as you say which is also a good point, but by projecting an accusation of xenophobia onto a true comment is a knee jerk reaction on your part.

@josephstevens5489 Год назад

@@ajfrostx What was incorrect about what they said? Other than what you deem to be withholding the reason for why it happens (you seemingly considering it a lie by omission)

@LtD973 Год назад

The rolling stock is privately owned by foreign companies and governments on most of the network who all rent their stock to the rail companies and take a nice big percentage of the ticket price.

@berillyispog Год назад

No most are owned by local firms dissolved from br that have foreign investors

@joinmeonthedarkside2 Год назад

Roscos Google them

@warringtonminge4167 Год назад

@@berillyispogmost of the foreign investors are companies that are wholly or nearly wholly owned by foreign governments.

@willbxtn Год назад

If you deducted all the dividends paid by TOCs last year from the tickets for every journey taken, you cut the price by a whole...34p per ticket.

@joinmeonthedarkside2 Год назад

@willbxtn the money paid to run it , to the roscos, to run on the network etc is the biggest cut. You can't run it without staff without maintenance of the fleet and money paid to the roscos who lease the tocs the trains.

@CosmicCoconut92 Год назад

This dynamic duo proceeded to waste my time by telling me some wrong things, and then some non things. Don't quit the day jobs guys.

@tahmedurrahman666 Год назад

It’s cheaper for me to fly out to Greece right now than it is to book a ticket from London Euston to Birmingham New Street 🤷🏼‍♂️

@firestarteronyoutube5542 11 месяцев назад

it's cheaper to get a train from South Wales to Glasgow than it is to get a Train from South Wales to London. if that doesn't scream problems, i don't know what does. Bearing in mind Glasgow is about 350 miles from South Wales and London is, what, 120?

@martinsims1273 8 месяцев назад

@@firestarteronyoutube5542I can well believe it. We're in Derbyshire, and Derby to London is approx.120 miles, and the railfare is often quoted around the £100 mark.

@martinsims1273 8 месяцев назад

@@firestarteronyoutube5542Also, I've noticed that it's much cheaper to travel from London to Derby than it is to travel from Derby to London. Why? It's exactly the same distance.

@firestarteronyoutube5542 8 месяцев назад

@@martinsims1273 that's an impressive achievement, even for rail companies.

@tedcopple101 Год назад

There's one level you've missed out, the rolling stock leasing firms. They charge the TOC's sky high fees for engines and carriages and add zero value to the service, just another set of snouts in the trough.

@ChapatiMan Год назад

TOCs*

@tedcopple101 Год назад

@@ChapatiMan nope, the leasing firms sit beside the TOC's.

@gibsonms Год назад

THIS

@ChapatiMan Год назад

@@tedcopple101 no, there shouldn’t be an apostrophe there

@lkbergen Год назад

Came here to say this; TOCs can pocket 1-3% profit on a ticket, but I many cases make a loss. ROSCO (the people who actually own the trains) they profit, and VERY well from it. 25-33% of you to let price goes to the leasing firms. Unbelievable.

@alex1207_ 11 месяцев назад

The UK railway system isn't one of the oldest, IT IS the oldest, Stockton-Darlington 1825...

@dijith Год назад

Train companies just operate services. They are not responsible for the infrastructure. That's what Network Rail does.

@suzyqualcast6269 Год назад

Used to cost £7.60 return, Chesterfield to St Pancras, Sat 7.30 departure to go bus spotting down the Smoke all day for. 40p, Red Bus Rover. Thus back in 72. Not been on a choo choo since 86.

@swish843 Год назад

Rail companies dont upgrade tracks. We the tax payer do. They are a private enterprise and can do what they want and charge what they wan while we the tax payer pay for the tracks their trains sit on while they make massive profit. Simples!

@JIMP1000 6 месяцев назад

I mean the ticket prices are what they are because network rail who own the infrastructure charge stupid fees that go up every year to use the stations and track. Then everything else added on top as well as them wanting to make a profit

@big-smoke-rc 5 месяцев назад

@@JIMP1000the tickets go up in cost because profits are expected. The profits aren't spent on rail or staff

@sacrilegiousboi978 Год назад

It costs more to commute from Brighton to London (50 miles) on a cattle truck with ironing board seats and no table as it does to travel from Paris to Munich (over 400 miles) by high speed TGV with an onboard bar.

@mitschiewaldmann9450 Год назад

These are the negative effects of privatization for in a nutshell.

@sublivion5024 Год назад

almost everything said in this video is factually wrong - while I agree privatisation is bad, nationalisation is not going to result in lower fares automatically - most fares are already set by the government. in fact, the few that are set by private companies tend to be the cheapest fares available. and while train operators have to pay access charges to Network Rail, a nationalised organisation, they are not responsible for upgrades or maintenance.

@LeeH688 Год назад

@@sublivion5024 the fares set by the Tory government who are chucking cash to their private Tory donor mates who populate the boards of the private rail firms they gave sweetheart deals to. A government that nationalised rail wouldn’t set corrupt Tory prices that only benefit crooked shareholders. Don’t talk such absolute shite.

@BlingIsSpring Год назад

And there’s even more negative effects for state-owned enterprises. Some industries do significantly better under private ownership.

@WillmobilePlus Год назад

No competition = better prices and insanely great service! Because monopolies are like that!

@sublivion5024 Год назад

@@WillmobilePlus when was the last time you rode a train in the UK and had a choice between a selection of competitive companies?

@ethanjones8115 Год назад

the companies that operate trains do not maintain tracks!!!! when the trains were privatised rail maintenance went to british rail who also maintain a number stations

@bill2893 Год назад

I would've thought high population density would make prices lower - it's cheaper per person to run a full train than one that's almost empty

@dresden5060 Год назад

Not in the UK, here they take advantage of that. For example we also have peak and off peak times. Peak time 6am to 9am when everyone goes to work the fare is doubled

@Code-on-TRIP 3 месяца назад

Buy railcard! Different age has different discount. And there's a discount code too.

@alexmaddox2255 Год назад

High density of people has nothing to do with high prices, many other countries have far higher populations with a far better and cheaper rail service. If the Government truly wants people to transition from private cars to public transport, trains need to be far cheaper. Everyone drives because it is far cheaper and quicker.

@grassytramtracks 9 месяцев назад

In fact, it's much cheaper per passenger to serve densely populated than sparsely populated areas

@andydporter5136 Год назад

"Train companies also need to pay their staff". Goodness, what an imposition!

@UnbelievableEricthegiraffe Год назад

"We have one of the Oldest railway systems in the world" It was the first so it's the oldest In fact I believe the video was filmed in Manchester the home of the world's first railway station as well as the other one in Liverpool But that wa demolished a long time ago. The Station In Manchester is open to visit In Castlefield on Liverpool Street.

@COYG04 Год назад

It’s cheaper to fly from Manchester to London than train and return 😭

@Rumade Год назад

Yep, and it's way worse in terms of fuel efficiency, co2, air and noise pollution

@sublivion5024 Год назад

No it isn’t

@stevesaul7975 Год назад

Nonsense statement. The walk up £300 fare only applies at certain times of day and the vast majority of people making that journey do NOT pay anything like that sort of amount. Now go to Manchester airport and say you want to fly on the next flight to Heathrow (ie right now) and see how much it will cost you...

@Code-on-TRIP 3 месяца назад

Maybe use railcard. Different age has different discount. And there's a discount code too.

@archiebald4717 Год назад

It is not ONE of the oldest railway systems in the world, it is the oldest.

@mrdaveythebaby Год назад

Rail companies don't maintain tracks in the uk. That's network rail, a publicly owned company.

@kevinsteel5812 Год назад

Talk about fudging the issue. Did you make this for an infants tv programme?

@Warentester Год назад

Yeah none of the items mentioned differentiate the UK from other countries. So they are not the reasons. The reason is privatisation and politics.

@Kujatalp Год назад

Trains are ridiculous in the UK though... A season ticket covering just Monday to Friday for commuting between the East Midlands and London is £12000... How can that be right?!

@PaulMakarus Год назад

Scot Rail is publicly owned and is pretty good.

@Danse_Macabre_125 Год назад

So are LNER and TfW, and I've heard decent stuff about them

@richardtickler8555 Год назад

A lot of UK train companies are at least partly owned by foreign nationalized train companies. You really played yourself on that one

@LiveTheDash Год назад

I like your surname

@dapdapbamban Год назад

I'm old enough to remember walking into a local station, going to the ticket office and saying "I'd like a ticket to..." Same low price, anytime, anyday. If it was possible then it's possible now.

@rothbardfreedom Год назад

Economics 101: If a market gives high profits, it brings in new investments (aka competitors), out of markets with lower profits. So, there are only two options: 1 - The ticket cost is high, but the operational cost is high too - thus profits are not high; (an information not displayed on the video) 2 - Some external force impedes new investments/competitors entering in the market. So, my Brits friends, do you have state regulations that add additional costs for new companies to built rails and routes? If so, you should look at the state to remove the extra weight before calling for politicians (many that hate you personally) to control means of moviment.

@sublivion5024 Год назад

This video is completely wrong. Infrastructure is managed by Network Rail (owned by the government). Fares are set by the DfT, not companies. Rolling stock investment is managed by the DfT (branch of government). We tried having the private sector look after infrastructure and many deadly accidents happened. Transport is a public service, not a for-profit market (although trains can be so efficient sometimes they can make a profit, like the London Underground, which is then used to subsidise buses).

@rothbardfreedom 7 месяцев назад

@@sublivion5024 Economics 101 again: If there is no profit, then it's a market that shouldn't exist at it is - the population itself is saying so, by not willingly buying tickets at a price that can cover the cost. The solution then would be for entrepreneur to find ways to deliver the service cheaper and/or better, so people will be willing to buy the tickets. By creating a state-owned at a loss, you are literally creating something that the people say they don't want as it is (because it's coerced and not-profitable).

@sublivion5024 7 месяцев назад

@@rothbardfreedom by that logic, we shouldn’t have roads, because they are state-owned and cost much more to maintain than they generate in tax and toll revenue. Meanwhile, the interstate highway system is attributed to massive economic growth in the US. Anyone who actually understands economics would recognise that mass transport is not a small scale commodity governed by direct sales and costs, but has extremely important macroeconomic and social impacts. Look at your bank statement - the chances are, most things you bought recently do not make you a profit! The same principle applies for the state looking after its citizens (for example, the NHS). The fact is, that there is no reason why railways need to make a profit (although in fact, when they’re invested in enough, they often do - the London Underground and the Elizabeth line for example turn a profit).

@sublivion5024 7 месяцев назад

@@rothbardfreedom Also, transport in general *should* be subsidised by people who are not directly using it, because they still benefit from it. Even if you never use trains, you still buy groceries and goods delivered by rail. Your waste is moved by rail. Employers and employees move by rail - you still benefit from GDP growth created by people who commute into the city by rail. Rail infrastructure protects your health, because it’s far better for the environment than moving goods by truck. And lastly, it’s just good for the economy to subsidise transportation - it encourages economic activity - especially when people are on foot. On the other hand, I don’t have a car, so I directly cause practically 0 wear and tear to roads, but roads are still extremely important to me because they help the society I rely on function, so I do think it’s right that a good proportion of my council tax bill goes to maintaining them.

@sublivion5024 7 месяцев назад

@@rothbardfreedom also - we tried privately run rail infrastructure in the UK. Lots and lots of people died in crashes. And look how good leaving it to “entrepreneurs” has worked out in the US with the complete and utter laughing stock that is Elon Musk’s “Loop” system.

@jasonsmart3482 Год назад

Book in advance, my single from London to Stirling Scotland booked for June was £59. Not so bad.

@vorong2ru Год назад

You can have a 4 he long flight to.Canary islands for cheaper than that. A train trip anywhere else is Europe would cost you no more than 10 pounds for.the same distance.

@michaelkores6860 Год назад

@@vorong2ruexcept it won't. Trains in Germany are easily as expensive or even more expensive and so they are in Switzerland and Austria

@saketsingh965 Год назад

Meanwhile India - You can travel all around india in trains for free in general coaches 😂

@kwanman5146 Год назад

sometimes on top of the carriages as well!!

@rituwebpro Год назад

general coach is hell

@The_king567 Месяц назад

Not a good thing

@Captain_Yorkie1 Год назад

What do u expect, you choose an open return instead of 2 time specific singles. Also air travel tends to actually cost more and takes longer. It only works if you lice near an airport which has a flight.

@LiveTheDash Год назад

I wouldn’t advise getting a train to Thailand.

@alfi_csgo6011 Год назад

@@LiveTheDash OP wasn’t talking about a train to Thailand. They were making a point about how you are complaining about a walk up fare that would never be cheap anyway.

@Orkneyboom 10 месяцев назад

@@LiveTheDash why not? I did it a few years ago.

@LiveTheDash 10 месяцев назад

@@Orkneyboom sounds cool. what was the route?

@seeking_serenityuk Год назад

Its because top bosses and share holders fleece people. That's the only reason.

@deang5622 Год назад

Not quite. The government has reduced year after year the magnitude of the subsidy it provides to train operating companies. Therefore they have to compensate by increasing their prices. In Europe, most of the railways are heavily subsidised by the government, but the UK is trying to adopt a strategy where the railways pay for themselves.

@maxmoore9955 Год назад

Don't use paying the workers as a reason, When all train companies get Billions in Tax payers subsidiaries. Blame the bloody greed of the Companies and incompetence of politicians.

@briwire138 Год назад

Don't buy an open return. Commit to advance tickets. Inflexible but cheap, £6 for liverpool to Sheffield for me seems good value.

@grassytramtracks 9 месяцев назад

There are plenty of routes where advance fares aren't available, and not everyone has the luxury of knowing exactly when they're travelling. I live in Bath and going to Bristol takes 12 minutes by train, but it's more than £8, which is ridiculous to go 11 miles

@briwire138 9 месяцев назад

Totally agree that walk up fares are expensive, but they tend to be in other countries with a similar average wage to the UK. I was making the point that cheap rail travel IS available if you can commit to a particular time, some way off.@@grassytramtracks

@JM-bw7qx 11 месяцев назад

Also just putting it out there as to why train prices are high, this can also be down to fare evaders because that money needs to be retrieved from somewhere, delays because for every minute a train is delayed the train operating company has to pay at least a couple of hundred pound to Network Rail as the companies operate on what is called an "On Time" railway whee if they are not committing to that then they are penalised. Therefore prices go up again to make up for it. Delays can be due to a number of things (if it is signalling then it's not down to the TOC so no fines), drivers not present, station staff not present, passengers holding doors open for their late running friends (this is a big one), train faults.

@EVILBUNNY28 Год назад

It’s a catch 22. No one uses the train services because they’re too expensive, so train companies up the prices to cover loss of expenses due to lack of travellers, making it more expensive for those who do use trains, leading to more people to stop using the trains because they’re too damn expensive.

@coopa2002 Год назад

Not at all, have you ever traveled on the east coast mainline like ever?

@billwild7396 Год назад

Na the workers use trains at rush hour.those are the only customers they want

@alfi_csgo6011 Год назад

Have you ever been on a train mate? Not even remotely the story at all.

@firestarteronyoutube5542 11 месяцев назад

Not so. Even at off peak times, my experience on Great Western is that its usually reasonably busy. about half full at worst?

@521Undertaker Год назад

In summer 2018 my family took a train from London to Edinburgh. There were several delays including switching to a second and third train due to mechanical and scheduling issues. We were sent an email stating that any delay over 90 minutes could result in a full refund if I just filled out a lengthy form. I filled it out and a few weeks later, full refund. Pretty sweet!

@robertpavey5615 Год назад

Had a similar experience travelling from Edinburgh to Ely (Cambs), back in 2015. The train i took from Edinburgh to Peterborough was held up for almost 2 hours, just north of Darlington, due to vandalism on the line (damage to signalling boxes). Got a full refund for that journey.

@TheAmericanCatholic Год назад

Me a American who doesn’t even have trains service across the country

@The_king567 Месяц назад

Be proud of that

@KaosGaming668 Год назад

That final station clip with the staff. That’s Carlisle. I recognise them railings anywhere. Plus I go to Carlisle a lot to visit friends and stuff.

@johnrider3749 11 месяцев назад

One word , Privatisation

@The_king567 Месяц назад

It amazing

@adityakhemka3737 Год назад

IRCTC enters the chat 😂

@ankanmaiti9864 11 месяцев назад

And people complaining about private companies without knowing real gangstas

@UksNorthWest Год назад

Ok no way y’all were at picadilly train station 😂❤😂❤❤😂❤😂❤😂❤😂

@DarrenBoss1984 Год назад

Yep. Me and my wife wanted to go to London for the day. 90 quid return. Or I could drive there and back on £10 diesel, park all day for £7 by booking online and go on a weekend so you can avoid the congestion charge travelling outside the times. Doesn’t make sense.

@Boxersteavee Год назад

"train companies also need to pay their staff" _weathter they are actually doing that is another matter_

@MeEntertainmentJo_876 Год назад

I guess to the people who created this video the plane companies don’t pay their staff

@Boxersteavee Год назад

@@MeEntertainmentJo_876 my point is trains are really expensive and the train staff are striking because of pay... So if there's soooo much money being given to the company, where is it going if not the staff?

@alfi_csgo6011 Год назад

@@Boxersteavee I think jake was making a joke and not counteracting your point

@WCMLtrainspotter Год назад

@@Boxersteaveethey are also striking for their jobs

@Boxersteavee Год назад

@@WCMLtrainspotter ?

@Idkwhattotype18 Год назад

Idk what to write

@Loake878 Год назад

Incorrect. Train companies don’t upgrade infrastructure such as tracks. That’s Network Rail’s responsibility and they’re a public sector organisation.

@thaddausklein4212 Год назад

-->Full privatisation

@malcolm8564 Год назад

The drivers are paid over 60k for regular hours after just a few.months training. It's union controlled.

@alfi_csgo6011 Год назад

By “few months” you mean a year of intensive training that doesn’t guarantee you staying in the job? Also low pay for that first year? Antisocial hours and long, lonely hours? All on top of the fact you will only probably be employed as a driver nowadays if you’ve had years of experience in the railways or come from a highly educated background or both.

@uzin0s256 Год назад

"trains in the uk are a joke" america: allow me to introduce myself

@dresden5060 Год назад

Haha I've heard that trains in the US are expensive not sure about how they compare to over here in the UK though, our train fares are extortionate. Put it this way, I live about 35 miles from London. To get the train to work one week when my colleague who used to drive me there was off, the train cost me a 3rd of my weeks wage!

@uzin0s256 Год назад

@@dresden5060 i went from to birmingham new street london waterloo for just 15 pounds when i visited london last month

@dresden5060 Год назад

@Uzin0s Brentford is literally a mile outside of London lol, you can still use your oyster card there so the price of travel gets capped

@uzin0s256 Год назад

@@dresden5060 i meant to say bimringham new street and london euston not waterloo

@dresden5060 Год назад

@Uzin0s how are you getting trains so cheap?? No seriously lol?? 😅 I go from Euston to Liverpool lime Street every year for a music festival and it costs me 140 for a weekend return. Any tips on getting it cheaper would be greatly appreciated

@Tysxno Год назад

Here in Australia (Or specifically Perth WA) our trains, ferries and buses are all one company, government owned) so you can get a tick (cheapest to travel anywhere is $2.90) and you can use that same ticket until it expires. We have a 2 zone cap now which means majority of Perth is now 2 zones

@shaungreenwood3232 Год назад

When does profit become greed tho? Check the profits these private operators make

@scottb9026 Год назад

Trains are govt owned and operated in Canada. They are older, slower and just as expensive as the trains in Britain. I hope this added perspective helps!

@grassytramtracks 9 месяцев назад

Well then there are Swiss trains which are publicly owned too

@itzbrioche Год назад

First till this gets famous!

@davidedbrooke9324 Год назад

The crazy contracts with the banks for rolling stock is expensive and inflates costs.

@alphabetaomega265 6 месяцев назад

Partly because ecause of multiple reasons. These by far aren’t all reasons, but they ought to be kept in mind when discussing this. I am saying this as a German who lived in Germany, France and Britain and prefers British trains to German trains. 1. UK train stations have a lot more staff than German or French train stations 2. The UK has a lot stronger passenger rights in case of delays than Germany and France 3. One gets an automatic seating reservation while in German and France one needs to pay 5€ to 20€ extra 4. UK train tickets are flexible allowing passengers to use any train they want, while in Germany and France one only is allowed to use the particular train one booked. In Germany one can as well get an open (flexible) ticket one to use any train on the route, but that’s usually 3 to 4 times more expensive than the normal ticket. 5. The DfT is very incompetent.

@spacebiscuitslive Год назад

So true, but there are some stellar deals if one's willing to book 2-3 months in advance. Nevertheless, I loved my time in the UK and train system allowed me to see a fair bit

@billwild7396 Год назад

Yeah well you wernt welcome.dont come back

@jakeythecrow9969 Год назад

You forgot to mention that all train employees are on strike

@tylerbeaumont Год назад

“Train companies act like private businesses” No, they are private businesses, and the fact that they’re private is the sole reason for the high prices and poor service. Germany and Belgium’s rail infrastructure is just as old as Britain’s, but they don’t have a privately owned rail system, so they don’t have these issues like we do. Blame Thatcher, not infrastructural age!

@st1nk1n Год назад

Cause the private train companies are allowed to give £500million public investment to their share holders. Criminal.

@blotski Год назад

You didn't really explain why other rail networks are cheaper i.e. they're at least partially state run.

@lewis72 Год назад

Train companies also have the line the pockets of their shareholders.

@pairojeans Год назад

Most European governments still subsidise passenger fares, for example the Netherlands subsidy is 40%. Other major factor is that most franchises are owned by other European railway companies such as SNCF, Deutch Banhoff, and Nederland Spoorwagon under subsidury companies. Uk is paying to subsidise other European countries passenger railway services, that is why UK franchise system is a joke.

@pashvonderc381 Год назад

Meanwhile in Germany as from the 1st May and for a whole €49 of your hard earned cash, you can buy a monthly ticket and can travel throughout the whole country using the tram systems, Underground trains, busses and the regional trains.. WTF the UK cannot do that is absolutely amazing 😢.

@olanrewajuihenacho178 Год назад

Because Deutsche Bahn is one of the foreign companies milking the British taxpayer through their ownership of our rail networks!

@Boxersteavee 9 месяцев назад

"train companies have to upgrade rail infrastructure", no, that's network rail's job. They're government funded, as well as fees from rail operators.

@joinmeonthedarkside2 Год назад

Google roscos. You'll see a large chunk of your ticket go to them

@frongus47 9 месяцев назад

Train companies dont own the infrastructure network rail does and network rail is publicly owned

@trailblazer3889 11 месяцев назад

The result of privatization of public infrastructure and greedy shareholders.

@mcbenman1793 Год назад

Correction, the UK HAS the oldest railway in the world. Railways were invented there

@Bobrogers99 Год назад

Private companies do not exist to provide a service. They exist to make a profit for their stockholders, so the ticket price is higher than their costs. An unregulated system can charge what the traffic will bear.

@billwild7396 Год назад

Gotta love tge tories

@The_king567 Месяц назад

Good

@DaBIONICLEFan Год назад

"Train companies act like private businesses" - they ARE private businesses lol

@vahidj7 Год назад

Other countries have to update their railway too but most of are a fraction of the price.

@xavierorriss921 11 месяцев назад

Thank you Thatcher

@ichbinschanppi Год назад

Not entirely true. The companies are still subsidised. So rail/ train repairs and maintenance are still paid by the gov. So it just comes down to the greed of privatisation

@grantrennie 9 месяцев назад

The trains are subsidised by tax money in the UK,they are foreign owned and they want to grab as much money as possible,profit profit and more profit

@mediterraneandiet2483 Год назад

They lease the trains from companies that contribute zero.

@bend3rbot Год назад

One of the worst economic breakdowns EVER!!! Wishy washy, vague, and NOT answering the question. EVERY rail company has staff and infrastructure costs and doesn't gouge on tickets. MANY have aging systems too. Not being wrong by not getting to specifics IS NOT ANY HELP at all. Come on investigative reporters - a little hunting required Don't tell me it isn't on forums!!! Say for international post. WE KNOW why USPS is factorially more expensive than other countries. It's because they have to fund 50 years of retirement funds in 10 years because their competition lobbied that law to handicap them.

@GAMEtime-zp2wr Год назад

In my country 🇸🇰 the train sometimes don't even come so be happy for what you got ❤️🇬🇧

@big-smoke-rc 5 месяцев назад

Wow you literally didn't mention the main reason - Rail companies paying investors. They don't spend the money on the railways or on the service or the staff. The money goes to investors and umbrella companies..

@West_Coast_Mainline Год назад

Privatization Just nationalize scrap all these new locos, build the 43s, 40s, 24s, and 37s again, along with the electric locos

@randomguywhohasnothing Год назад

Did they just say that the London Underground is part of the National Rail services

@consultant2678 Год назад

You are missing the point! Privatisation a huge mistake allows them to charge what they like as the only alternative is drive bus or walk ! That’s why !

@CPTrains Год назад

Since Covid it’s the government who have all financial control of all TOCs, just they have to pay a fixed price to a private operator to manage the TOC. The infrastructure is so old that it costs millions to replace it all. The whole ticketing system needs a complete rework, but trains on busy routes, say London to Manchester will be more expensive as there is always a high demand and raising the prices would in theory reduce overcrowding. The railways do not have enough capacity for every service that could run, hence why HS2 is needed to unlock capacity on the London - Crewe corridor. Whilst having little capacity at the minute, trains can’t run as frequently as wanted, so prices rise as a simple demand and supply.

@lisabowell143 10 месяцев назад

It's because it's privatised. Trains need to be nationalised. It's cheaper to fly.

@CommentReadersAssociates 9 месяцев назад

Terrible Terrible Terrible! For a country paying people one of the lowest wages.

@craighobbs3708 Год назад

An open return is NOT the best fare to use. You are misleading people with this video. A return that is valid for a month is £73, not £300 or whatever you quoted. Trains in Scotland are controlled by government (SNP)and so are a few other routes in England and Wales (Labour)So you make a general ‘sweep’ of a UK umbrella comment which is also false . I do agree though, flying has become far more reliable than the train

@johngear1415 Год назад

Britain sold everything. Everything has been privatised and everything is extremely expensive as a result.

@chrishoo2 Год назад

People! History. The railway lines were built by private companies- the Great Eastern, the Great Western etc. then they were nationalized & apart from closing lines down & essential maintenance there very little to no upgrading being done. So, as other European countries upgraded, thinking, France, Germany & Spain, it became obvious that the U.K. network was not serving the country well. The problem was that the government didn’t have the money to take this on so they handed the rail network over to privatization so of course more lines were cut & the price of tickets soared until the price of tickets became, mile for mile, possibly the most expensive in the world.

@tomedy_official 7 месяцев назад

Well actually all the tickets you buy go to the government and the government pay out To the train companies for every service they run. Some Services make a lot of money while most are just nonprofit. It's the combination of expenses and trying to make train tickets more affordable to the public.

@needlesslylongnametospell Год назад

So many times i felt like taking a train rather than flying or driving, but the cost scared me away almost every single time. I preferred to drive 7 hours than taking the train that takes exactly same time to travel the distance.

@GuidossInnit Год назад

The reason is that the train companies lease the trains. The trains are owned by big leasing companies which have borrowed heavily to buy the trains from the manufacturers. The interest rates that they are charged are very high. The banks are the lenders. So when you pay a lot for a train ticket, much of the money is going to banks and bond holders. The whole system is badly conceived. In other countries, the rail operators own the trains and issue their own debt at low rates to buy the trains (eg France)