Why Baseball *Was Going* To Be Cancelled in 2022 

Ok

rip MLB

I'm good

nah

The Farmville company? Interesting

2020 and 2021 were special seasons; playoffs were so fun

@@gabeshivers 2020 itself was a shitshow

@@gabeshivers 2020 was an awful season

@@sawyertuide7636 Baseball's been a shit show for some time and now it's Woke. It's dead to me and I was a die hard Mets fan, so you know I must have been dedicated. LOL!

@@sawyertuide7636 Im just getting back into baseball, can you give me a quick elevator speech on why 2020 was such a shitshow? Ive just been getting back into baseball for the last 7(ish) months and now I'm finding out there might not be a 2022 season? I need to get caught up big time.

Exactly. The last four or five commissioners all come from the same tree and were just close friends of the commissioner that came before them. The slimier the better too especially Selig and Manfred. They especially suck!

Yep

I hate this commissioner more than I hated tge former commissioner. Manfred is killing the & he is listening to these fans that not really fans. I agree no pitch clock,but yes to a draft lottery.

Giamatti seemed different but he really did have a chance to show us.

@@demonkingbadger6689 He certainly could’ve been the one to take us off this timeline we are in now. I think his heart attack showed us that he stressed over things with more empathy than the slime we would get after his far too short run as commissioner.

I did not expect to find you here lol

I said the same thing about my Orioles

Let's pay Josh Donaldson 20 plus million per and not make Eddie Rosario a serious offer and watch him key an epic world series run...the disgust is real

Zed!!! What’s going on? Tired of watching fart jokes?

To bad it won't help the Vikings.

More like milk :-(

NOT ANYMORE BABY

Yeah... Let's not get crazy here.

Hell, he makes Bud Selig look good.

Careful now, baseball never had a glowing ball. Bettman is a piece of shit and the poster child for term limits on commissioners. Fans hate him, players hate him, the only people that even tolerate his weeniness are accountants. Rob Manfred is unpopular but he doesn't get booed the way Bettman has been booed at every Stanley Cup Final for well over a decade.

And I hate Goodell soooo bad

Adam Silver is the only commissioner who isn't widely hated/ridiculed in American sports. What does that tell us?

It's a prophecy

Very true… Unfortunately

I want to ask how does 14 teams works that 7 teams per division a odd number if they play against each other without separating that 7 teams left a odd number just like the 7 per each team being odd so how would this work

@@MsSaskue360 top seed gets a bye for a round ?

Kinda like NFL playoffs

Completely agree need a shortened season where the games are more meaningful. Spring training should be part of the season and should be done before people can think about football

I think the hurry up rules could help. Kids have no attention spans these days. They complain about movies longer than 90 minutes. Also juice the balls again, fans love a HR.

Plus they get paid way too much to swing a bat

The length of the game is alright by me, I am always on the go-go-go so when I sit down for a game, any game, I do like to savor it like a juicy steak. As a life long Braves fan I am more upset that I pay 65 a month for a streaming service that bally sports refuses to re-sign a contract with, so now I cant watch any games.

Everyone in this mini thread sucks and aren't true baseball fans... Go watch basketball if you want a 'fast' game.. go watch football if you want a short season. In a world of fan service, y'all should just go watch the MCU.

And most of the time that happens, they don’t lockout the players for months.

@@inflatableman9185 This is still off-season tho, I think the owners will break by March

@@warlordofbritannia yeah because the owners have the advantage right now because since it’s offseason they’re not losing a dime

@@Wolf-wc1js Exactly! Once the season comes…only then will they realize what they have to lose

Really sick of the billionaires vs the millionaires. Fuck em both.

That’s half of the MLB. If they do that, then the wildcard needs to be more than one game. A team can miss out based on one player having a mid game injury or off night.

this will never happen bc the bulk of revenue comes from tv ads. more games =bigger ad contracts/revenue. regardless of how compelling or meaningful the season is.

Wow! You are standing on an island. Seems like most want to keep the playoffs as is. You're our type of person. Independent thinkers. Come join us!

100 game season. Each team plays 50 on friday/Saturday and 50 tue/wed with of course 50 being at home and 50 away. 30 week season including playoffs, all star game. Less games, shorter season equals more interest because each game is more important. Standardized tue/wed/fri/sat schedules help fans keep up and tv stations schedule better. Also, drop the game to 7 innings to speed it up. That way you have One starter and one closer most of the time and the game is quicker (2.5hrs). Who cares about the old records and comparing stats from times gone by. People would go to games on weekends or watch on tv if it was shorter and weekday tickets could be cheaper. Probably would sell more tickets in a 100 games than 162 that way. Shorter season, smaller contracts, more interest, fuller stadiums, everyone wins.

I like the lengthy regular season.

Nah, MLB is losing viewership year over year while salaries and expenses increase. Pitch clock is great. IMO - They need to do MORE to compete for eyeballs these days.

@@VeriStrawberi people who don’t like baseball, don’t like baseball. A pitch clock isn’t gong to make them suddenly like baseball...because guess what? THEY DON’T LIKE BASEBALL. How about we stop catering to and pursuing people who “just aren’t that into” us? I mean, really - who do we think we are? The GOP (to blacks)?

@@bogme Thank you, been saying that for years! Rushing the pitcher isn’t going to change anything 🤷🏻‍♂️

@@VeriStrawberi I agree. Baseball was more popular when there was more fast paced-action.

Pitch clock is actually a great idea imo. Games are too long and pitch clocks are already implemented in some minor leagues and it’s been going fine

From Montreal, I feel you.

*could've/could have

@@skiprockjr.6881 coulduv

@@bakedkalechips69 "Loose" when they mean "lose" and "could of" and not "could've" drive me nuts. I'm finally putting my foot down.

@@skiprockjr.6881 don't tell autocorrect, we'll never get out of this comment section. Gah.

So true

I basically start paying attention after the All Star game. That's when you start to really see if your team has a chance.

These days, I only watch my team's games until VERY close to the end of the season when scoreboard watching becomes necessary. And even then, I don't pay much attention until all the other sports are done.

No you just have a low attention span

well right now its offseason

@@mbdg6810 thanks bro had no idea

I mean you haven't technically been in a time when baseball would've been played this year tho

Rob Manfred is a lying dirty _ _ _

He's a complete joke.

People have said that about every commissioner.

@@kristopherloviska9042 Well we gotta blame someone 🤷🏽‍♂️😭

The players association gave the cheating astros immunity, they're not much better. I side with Manfred and the owners here.

Too much money on the line, an agreement WILL be met

Very rational response. Hard to argue. Especially when reporting just gets less and less reliable each year.

Soooo, how are we feeling now?

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Elf on the shelf Manfred is to blame

It was finally looking promising for my Tigers again :(

@@Karmy. exactly bro detroit for life

Not alone

@@Mannyhurtjr Al? You're still alive?

Here I am thinking the 2022 season would be cancelled because of bad UMPing 😂 (maybe I'm watching a little too much Jomboy)

Everyone wants to play by their own rules.

same, good way to start

Dude same here!

We know how you feel Phillip. We're your friends. We're not like the others.

Yanks fan?

@@RapFan54 Us? Now way! We're Detroiters!

@@PallazzoPodcast the Tigers haven't been relevant since 2013 when they lost in the ALCS.

@@chrisshook8471 No doubt about it. 2014 against BAL was the death knell but I see your point.

I'm with you. It's time to show these rigged pro sports leagues who REALLY calls the shots around here; the fans. If the powers-that-be are constantly rigging games for the sake of gambling or low-balling player salaries, they aren't even games anymore. I wish we could all work together to boycott the MLB/NFL/NBA, to hit them where it hurts.

Not to mention that maybe they will realize just how good of a thing they have. One thing that irritates me is the seemingly utter lack of gratitude from either the players or owners about either being able to play this game for too money, or being able to own a team. Perhaps a hit in the pocketbook will open their eyes. Then again, maybe monkeys will fly out of my rear. I'm not at all optimistic.

@@DaDitka Agreed but owners pay their salaries. I would not give in and threaten to cancel entire season. Owners need to stop with ridiculous contracts, especially for pitchers. They don't even play every day and no longer pitch complete games. I would not give in to players demands after giving them enough already. Let them go out to the real world and see how it goes.

@@EastboundAndDowns hockey to

Samelol

Small ball is trash There's a lot wrong with baseball but lack of small ball isn't it

@@tommyfu9271 Yeah, b/c this analytics b.s. where everyone walks up to the plate to either K, walk or hit a homerun is just SOOOO exciting! In fact, it's so exciting that a mediocre Sunday night NFL game in the middle of the regular season between 2 small market teams will destroy a crucial WS game in the ratings. It's so exciting that while NFL and NBA players are some of the most well-known celebrities in the country or even the world, most Americans wouldn't know the best players in MLB if they tripped over them in the street. I hope you enjoy baseball's cultural irrelevance

@@Musicvidsetc the NBA is hot garbage 95 percent of the time.Regular season nba is more boring and almost as meaningless as exibition baseball.Elite high level basketball between the 3-4 teams that actually have a real chance to win the championship each year is great. Why aren't you complaining about analytics in basketball? The NBA is completely different than 20 years ago because of analytics. I actually think analytics has gone a little overboard (basically it thinks humans are robots when they aren't) but they make a lot more sense than people quiting old school stats that are absolute fucking nonsense like win loss record or batting average.This stats were not deemed important bc someone actually analyzed what the meant,it was merely easy to report them in newspapers in the 1800s so that's what people went with. Do I like seeing guys strike out all the time? No. And I think analytics is wrong thinking strikeouts don't matter at all for hitters (while stressing their importance for pitchers) but old school guys also think they matter way more than they do. Old school guys also love dumb shit like "small ball" which generally means doing idiotic things like sac bunting a man from first base to second base which even if successful is almost always reducing your teams chances of winning a game unless the pitcher was batting. Call the shift an algorithm if you want but it makes perfect sense.If you think baseball should outlaw it fine,but it's smart.Teams should position their defense where guys are most likely to hit the ball.What makes zero sense is that for over 100 years teams basically played everyone like they were Tony Gwynn. While we have way more data than ever before to be way more precise than was possible even 10 years ago,there was NEVER any logical reason to position your defense symetrically across the field unless the batter happened to hit equally to all fields which very few players do.That "human decision making" was lazy and moronic.Humans were wrong for over 100 years.Just like humans were wrong for a long time in the NBA for not realizing how valuable 3 pointers are and how shitty of a shot long 2s are.Your preference is more bad human decision making over doing what's correct? You're right the NFL will always draw better than baseball. It's a once a week sport that's heavily gambled on. There are many things I think are wrong with baseball-the pussification of starting pitching makes me sick.While analytics do say pitchers generally are significantly worse the third time through the other this has never been the case for elite pitchers ever including now.There is no reason for legit aces to be treated like regular pitchers. There is way too much down time because of mid inning pitching changes. I am one of the few people who likes the 3 batter rule.Id actually like to see it extended even further. I also will never understand why baseball gives relievers 8 warm up pitchers on the mound.Its absurd you have a bullpen so use it.Evedy pitching change takes 4-5 minutes from the last pitcher the prior pitcher through to the first pitch the reliever throws.If every time an NBA player subbed into a game the crowd had to wait a few minutes to warm up it would be unwatchable.I wish baseball would do something about this.

@@tommyfu9271 WOW! A lot to unpack there. OK, in terms of the NBA, I totally agree with you. I haven’t even watched a full NBA game in years. It’s boring and it’s no longer a contact sport. I recently saw a playoff game from back in the day in which Dennis Rodman, who was on the Spurs at the time, was guarding Karl Malone. There was more physicality between those 2 men in 1 game then there has been in the entire NBA for the last 5 years. Later, you mention concentrating on shooting 3’s. Ok, well, first, outside of a few guys like Bird, that’s where today’s NBA player has an advantage b/c yesterday’s players didn’t concentrate on that aspect of the game. Doesn’t make sense to shoot 3’s if you can’t make them. Speaking of which, kind of like baseball, this has gone overboard w/ 7’ centers and power forwards pulling up and shooting them. That leads us to something similar in baseball. You mention Tony Gwynn: Gwynn hit like that b/c that was the best way for him to successfully get on base. Not everyone is a HR hitter. Some guys must slap the ball around, steal bases, etc. in order to create some offense. It was understood that there were different kinds of hitters. Now everyone comes up to the plate like they’re Dave-fucking-Kingman and tries to either K/BB/HR. That approach makes even the good HR hitters boring b/c EVERYONE has the same approach. Ok, so that’s a good segue to the shift. I understand it’s the smart thing to do and I don’t think it should be banned. What should be banned are hitters who don’t adjust and keep swinging away into the shift. Say what you want about pre-analytics baseball, but those guys would’ve immediately adjusted. Especially, on these ridiculous over-shifts they would’ve just bunted the ball down the baseline and taken the automatic base. Now, analytics people would whine about that, yet they’re ok w/ walking all the time. What’s the difference? In both cases the hitter is being given a base. And by bunting (or adjusting your approach to hitting) you force the other team to stop shifting and you’re back to traditional baseball. I totally agree w/ you about the pussification of starting pitching and relief pitchers wasting time. I don’t know about the 3-hitter rule but I do know that the way managers use relief pitching has gone backwards in some way. This over-specialization and how certain guys can only pitch certain innings or in certain situations is stupid. Back in the day your top reliever wouldn’t just come pitch the 9th, you’d bring him in when the situation was at it’s worst b/c he was the best you had. That’s why they used to be called “firemen.” Now, you’ll have men at 1st and 3rd and one out and the manager will bring out his 3rd best reliever b/c it’s not time for the set-up man much less the closer. Shouldn’t you bring in the “ace” of the bullpen? As for the starting the 9th inning, if you can’t get 3 outs w/out giving up 3 or more ERs then you shouldn’t be in MLB. As for the popularity of the NFL, you can rationalize all you want but the fact is that in my father’s lifetime baseball was the most popular sport in America and its stars were far more well known than any NFL player. Now, 99% of the public couldn’t pick Mike Trout out of a police lineup. Perhaps the NFL was destined to eventually take the top spot, but that didn’t mean MLB had to fall this low

Or when the batters piss and moan about the strike zone while umps are attacked verbally game after game and the league does NOTHING to combat it. Look at all the ejections the past few years.....all an act and "look at me" moment to excite the fans when in reality it's pathetic. Ya...umps make mistakes......but nearly everyone called out on a strike 3 have to question it at the plate while arguing with the umps. Good....cancel it all.....who cares.

The MLBPA is the strongest sports player Union for a reason, and making common cause with the minors would only further cement that fact-I’m surprise they haven’t realized this and done so before…

Making nothing? Most of those minor leaguers make more a year than I do and I make between 75-100K a year and work way more hours than they do

@@aaronsanborn4291 are you sure about that? The average salary for a player in triple a minor leagues is $15,000…. The teams don’t provide housing or anything like that. So you’re left to pay for an apartment on that small salary. I make more then a AAA baseball player and make $18/hr…

@@aaronsanborn4291 obviously if you’re good enough you can get sponsors and everything but the majority of minor leaguers aren’t. They don’t make enough money.

@@aaronsanborn4291 no they don't what are you talking about. They literally make less than 20k a year and they have to have roommates just to afford rent

MLB already put their foot in it...when it took a knee to BLM and the Woke Culture. If you went to the games during this dark period...you have no one to blame but yourself for its downward spiral.

Well MLS does that too but yeah compared to them idk

@@middlefinger1565 tell me you're racist without telling me

@@joestack1222 I'm only racist against highly racist and violent BLM...who cares only about certain black lives...the lives of career criminals. Obtw...did you enjoy that highly ridiculous new documentary series on Showtime...titled "Everything's Gonna Be All White" 🤷‍♂🤷‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂?!

@@middlefinger1565 awww man keep digging a deeper hole man

Same 😂

My Cubbies won in '16, waiting my grandpas entire life, my dad's, and mine to see it. I'm good

I haven’t seen mike trout win a playoff game, IM NOT GOOD

^ I’m not even an Angels fan but I would love to see him make the World Series .. then lose to the Braves!

I watched Bellinger knock us out in the NLDS. I need revenge

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i feel the same way i have felt that way for a while

Your favorite team must suck

MLB don't care about you. The MLBPA doesnt care about you. A good minority don't even care about or even LIKE baseball lol As they say, a new sucker is born every minute.

The final nail in the coffin for me, personally, will be the institution of the DH in the national league. Once that happens my 30+ years of loving MLB baseball will come to an end.

@@naciremasti Bye lmao

Why not??? I think an expanded playoffs would be great for baseball.

@@davidharrison7014 How so?

@@homerj.simpson7562 More exciting games to watch, and more revenue for the teams and their owners.

Players and owners will whether you like it or not, question is will it be 12 teams or 14 teams.

Players don't think about that or the fans of that organization that get hurt by this. All they care about is getting theirs. The top players don't really care about the bottom players either tbh. If they did, they would have Tony Clark fight more for those players instead of the 1%.

@@walker1984 The disparity is not a problem with the players. It is the owners fault. If the owner does not want to pay for a competitive team, then that has nothing to do with the players. If the owner wanted to promote his team, pay for stars, and market all of that, there is no issue. It is owners who don't care about the team but just want to say they own a team, that is the problem.

@@the_algorithm Without a cap there are too many teams that simply can't afford to compete. Owners have to choose between going broke hoping to get lucky or manage the team for profit. There needs to be a floor and cap. Without a floor there are owners that won't field a competitive team and without a cap there are owners that will vastly outspend others. At least half the teams are basically a minor league system for the big market, big spenders. This is a big reason why fans are checking out and not watching once you get outside of places like the northeast corridor and California.

@@kamX-rz4uy the level of parity isn't the reason fans are checking out otherwise The NBA which since 2000 has had 5 repeat Champions while the MLB Hasn't had 1 repeat champ since 2000. The Reason people aren't paying attention to baseball is because baseball is too slow paced for people.

But the NBA had a record dropoff of viewers because of those repeated champions so not sure your point is valid since it just recently recovered

Kevin Millar

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Same

he will just be replaced with another puppet. Roger Goodell? Gary Bettman? Every league has this boss. There's no hero coming through that door. They do not exist. This is the best there is to offer. Selfish players, selfish owners. Everyone is selfish.

Players didn't strike, owners locked them out.

So does the mlbpa or MLB license rights for video game rights

@@666jt Both. That's why your copy of MLB the Show has an official MLB logo and an MLBPA logo. For baseball cards, Topps had both licenses, but the MLBPA also licensed their rights to Panini.

Well said!

Do u know why they tooke their pictures down from the site ?

@@not_jon_vendi It's not clear, but it seems like a tactic meant to draw attention to the lockout. MLB probably wants people to conclude that the MLBPA is so petty/greedy as to not allow MLB to show the likeness of players on their website during the work stoppage. They want to turn popular sentiment against the players like they did in '95.

Yep, also expect MiLB on some TV too. Also don’t be surprised if MLS capitalized on this MLB absence.

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@Thomas Cavanaugh If you followed the Seattle Mariners like I have for the past 20 years, then you already know how demoralizing it is to see a team reinvent itself only to fall flat on its face.

@Thomas Cavanaugh I'm 25 and I haven't played since little league. I just got signed onto an MLB team as a shortstop for 240k a year. You should try out I did and I got in because I told them "baseball has problems. I'm here to solve them. I can bat, I can catch. I know my way around a mitt. Give me a chance coach." And he did. He gave me a choice of positions.

I honestly feel like baseball is going to make a HUGE come back in the next decades

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(Secret Base has entered the chat)

I’m a padres fan but I’m really excited to see what the tigers do after signing Eduardo Rodriguez and Javy Baez

I’m a huge tigers fan too but in my opinion this could possibly be the worst time ever to be good in 2020 and 2021 the playoffs and world series just didn’t seem the same in my opinion and it just seems like it going down hill I’m so happy that we’re signing good free agents and our good prospect are have an impact at the big league level but scared it could be wrong time

I used to be a Tigers fan. But 2006- 2014 seasons just took too much out of me. I just bet $ on the games now. No favorite team.

Everything about Detroit is pissing me off this year All snow storms avoid us; yet the temperatures stay below freezing constantly. I want to beat Mother Nature Lions always do bad and then win the last games so they won’t get a first round pick. Their future looks promising. However, they will probably find a way to screw up Pistons sign Cade Cunningham and we were excited. Of course, we are the second worst team in the league Tigers sign amazing recruits and then this BS happens Redwings seems to be really improving and is the only team with a winning record as of today

Local Detroit area baseball show here! We will have a season eventually and Miggy will get 3000! Just might not happen until June.

I remember when Josh Donaldson won MVP at 29 but was getting paid like 3 mil cause he only had a few years of service time

@Brian T technically yes but it's often manipulated to basically being 7

It's absurd and a relic of the distant, segregated past. Completely agree.

@RedArc We the fans (which I am NO longer)...are the ones paying their ridiculously hefty salaries by paying an outrageous price for cheap seats and $8 for one beer. Why defend these overpaid bums?

@@middlefinger1565 why defend the billionaire owners? You're right we pay their salaries and if the owners paid them less they would just make more money for themselves.

ISWYDT

Whaaaa?!

A lot of the low level guys aren't really millionaires (at least in the 90s), but I take the point, they're pretty comfortable. But I'm not sure player salaries are driving the costs. If you froze the players salaries, you'd change nothing. The owners will charge what the market will bear, not what's "fair". If they can keep charging more and more every year, they will. Players at least pay a higher tax rate, so I'd rather it went to them. Maybe those billionaires should pay more tax too, but that's another conversation.

Oh good, another person who has absolutely zero clue how free market capitalism works. Why do sports players make so much money? Because that's what the market pays them. There are few of them, therefore the demand is higher. Why do firefighters, nurses, and teachers make less? Because that's what the market pays them. There are many of them, therefore the demand is lower. That's just how the free market works. You don't want the sports players making so much money? Convince every person to never go to a game, never watch it on TV, never buy the merchandise. All of a sudden, they won't make nearly as much because you aren't giving them your money.

Watch on tv?

@@ryanchase9332 if you genuinely hold the belief that we operate in a free market here in the US then im afraid you don't understand either my friend lol

I feel you 100% on this. This goes with every other sport too. Same with Hollywood.. F 'em all. It's sad to me, but I need to work on myself and find other pursuits. Blessing in disguise that my team changed its name to the gUarDianS 🤢 🤮. Perfect time to leave the sport forever.

well hes paid by the owners sooo ya thats not gonna happen. that SHOULD be how it works though

No, the commissioner is entirely only there to protect owners interest

Commissioner works for the owners not the sport. Hey hire him not baseball.

Bud selig was an owner still serving as a commissioner

Owners pay the commissioner to represent them, that’s his job.

Field of dreams is overrated trash

All sports are now about the money!!

@@mikecoyle1969 been that way for like 100 years.

@@tommyfu9271 🤣🤣

@@codyprickett7969 absolute trash Watch bull Durham if you want a good baseball Cosner movie

wots yer daily workout regimen? :-)

@@rvog6584 get up at noon, eat a can of spaghettios, watch old Taxi reruns, then I'll go out and buy some cat food, come home and cook more pasta, have some chocolate chip mint ice cream, drink about 2 bottles of chianti, watch some old Mary Tyler Moore reruns, and knock off round 2 am.

@@chalkbunt81 u shuld hav enuf mass built up 2 rly give the ball a ride, huh? :-)

@@rvog6584 There's not a stadium in all of MLB that can contain my moonshots.

Look how long it took the NHL to come back after losing a season to a lockout

NHL learned their lesson too not just getting their shit together during the Covid break and creating a fun playoff but also deciding to get that CBA done for several more years in the process. Both sides worked together by having some of the player’s salaries in escrow so their teams wouldn’t be broke and in return they get that money back later with interest. (I know it’s a bit more complicated with than that but that’s why it’s impressive they got it done because in the past they would’ve lost a season and a half.)

@@freeparking301 NHL is now having a cultural problem between the owners and players in the near future after hearing what’s going on and people haven’t talked about it

@@therealjaystone2344 That’s certainly true. We all knew about the pill popping culture for years. As a Flyers fan I got to see Carter and Richards zooted out of their minds on the bench along with the rumors of them sniffing oxys at frat parties and beach houses down at the Jersey Shore. Players don’t magically skate on a broken foot days after it happened without some heavy duty help. And of course we have the Blackhawks scandal which the NHL would like all of us to forget ever happened.

the best mexican team is mebbe aaa lvl. ditto japan. drop a bit for korea, venezula, dominica, phillipines. any otha place that even has organized leagues [europe? snicker] is low minors. @ best.

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i take it u are considerably younger than me, 40? how old were you in 1994?

That would be way-cool. Enjoy!

u havent held a actual wage earnin job hav u?

@@rvog6584 not where my work is paid by people that spend hard earned money to see me play

@@MrBentheretwo wel, mlb hasn't cared bout Joe q. Fan in a long time. Sadly, their revenue is as much driven by network contracts & the like. (Bonus fun -- a work stoppage kills the value of those as wel!!)

@@rvog6584 I agree which is why they can afford to give everyone a chance to go to a game without spending a hundred dollars or more trust me if fans put up a big enough stink advertising is going to be gum shy of spending big bucks towards baseball and that's just the thing that will scare owners

Yeah all of the things that have gone down in the last few years, that's the clearest indication of the owner class shenanigans that the players are pissed off about

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