Bill Murray recalls that time he was arrested in Stockholm, Sweden, for driving a golf cart under influence. We also speak to Jeff Goldblum and Bob Balaban about working with Wes Anderson on "Isle of Dogs".
Interestingly they have accualy studied his nervous system at harvard medical center and found it is closer in nature to that of the cephalopoda genus. In that way his limbs are accualy capable of thinking independently not only from his main brain activity but from each other.
When he said "you'll be fined according to your income" the other two were about to gesture like this was unfair. They stopped midway and realized, wait, it's actually fair. A fine is precisely supposed to hurt, so it should hurt everybody the same. Why would the wealthier have the privilege of walking out unaffected by it?
i think you're projecting. i didn't pick that up at all. they don't think its fair - they're just rich yank actors. who cares if they're assholes tho, they're just actors lol
if you got a parking ticket, and someone else got a parking ticket, and you both did the exact thing wrong - should the fine be $20 for both of you, andthats it OR should you have to show your last 3 years income tax returns and prove your income, and then submit a compilation of your investments, to analyze your net worth, and then fine the person who makes more money and is worth more money pay more?????? DO YOU UNDERSTAND AMERICA???? WE THE PEOPLE - DEMOCRACY??????
Yes I was also thinking the very same thing perfect and interesting chemistry together they should definitely make another movie together in a hilarious dramatic comedy!!!
@@drewjeers815 bro. First of all I am God so i know everything. Second of all. Look at him. Just look at pictures of him and think about how he acts. Its obvious. He is secretly closeted. His wife and kids are a cover up.
As much as I appreciate Bill Murry, I am with the idea of a scaled by income fine. Fines overly punish the poor and are barely an inconvenience to the rich. Because of such, the idea of a fine being a prevention has no teeth to the rich.
seancoyote yeah but it’s also kind of unnecessary to force someone to tell them their income if they don’t want to. If someone, such as a poor person, wants to express that they don’t have the money for such fines let them. If someone declines I think they should just leave them be.
@@kapishjoshi4576 If you are not able to pay a fine you will not get off without getting any punishment lol...you will do community service or in extreme cases go to jail for a couple of days.
Reminds me: recently a saudi arabian diplomat killed someone on a bicycle by openening the door on an illegal spot without looking. He just wrecklessly disregarded regulations! Diplomats can not be prosecuted in my country and as a saudi he is probably also dirty rich. These people sometimes stop caring about others because they know it can't hurt them. Not quite the same but I think sueing according to income makes a lot of sense.
a guy back here was arrested, detained, charged and fined, lost his license for twelve months, had to do community service for driving a zamboni while under the influence
Fining according to income seems like a good idea. After all a fine is supposed to be a punishment for breaking the law. A $100 fine isn't a punishment for a wealthy person. Why should people with more income get a lesser level of punishment for breaking the same laws?
Have you seen John Oliver's episode on this? There are poor people who get like $100 and have difficulties paying. Then get hit with more fines and jail time and can't pay that either. Then get hit with more and more fines.
@@Jefff72 No I haven't seen it, but I can imagine that happens a lot. A horrible spiral downwards. The idea of fines is both as punishment and to change behaviour, being in this trap does nothing. Someone being made a habitual criminal purely because of lack ability to pay a fine isn't in society's, or anyone's, interests. Jailing someone costs, someone being jailed means it's far harder for them to find a job if they do manage to escape this trap and that costs them, their families and society further. It's a terrible policy.
@@OrganisedPauper someone being made a habitual criminal ....seriously ?? what you mean to say is they choose to be a criminal ....your story in this life is based on the choices you make .....fining more because you make more is just stupid rich or poor you choose to do right or wrong ..suppose you woke up tomorrow wealthy notice ididnt say rich ...wealthy does it make you a bad person because say you spent 35 yrs of your life accumulating that wealth nor it does not so get off your soap box woke snowflake sjw tard its not a crime tobe poor or rich ....
If Murray was driving a golf cart drunk in Good Old USA, Murray would have got off scot-free. The cop would have gotten autograph and a selfie with Murray. That's capitalism and being a celebrity rolled in one. So that's fair.
This is better and more interesting than some movies I have seen lately. Call it 'Letters from the loony bin' and just record them answering silly questions for an hour or two.
Yeah, they use Day fines. There's a little bit calculating and variables like children, single, married etc. But think of it as being fined a days pay. So one person will pay $50- and another will pay $500-The logic is to have the "Punishment" the disruption and effect on one's life, to be equal. Think it should seriously be looked at here in the states.
I don't know, if you want fines to be a deterrent, then it seems like a pretty good idea to link them to income. Otherwise you get billionaires throwing money out the window while driving around drunk. And its always a good lesson to not go drinking in another country if you dont' know the laws. Newsflash, saying "thats not how they do it in my country" isn't really much of a legal defence in most of the world.
If Bill got the same fine as I did, the difference would be that I would be paying it with my part time job and college loans and it would serve as an example and make it a literal impossibility that I would ever intentionally break that law again. Bill on the other hand, would not learn anything and could get the same citation hundreds of times and pay it off like in Russia where members of the oligarchy or family members can speed and drive recklessly and just get their ticket payed off and speed away because it's *not based on income*. Taxing based on income is a good idea--it's fair because it serves to create equity and not equality, because equality of punishment doesn't mean equality of personal consequences.
love that honesty. nice bill. that sounds like a lesson. istp: "who are you? under what authority?" not great justification. the stockholm police is right. this is coming from a person who has a DWI in america.
Paying a fine according to your earnings is fairer and more effective than fining $100 for someone who makes $500 and someone who makes $5,000, Think about it, who's more likely to break the law?
yes,the Idea is a $500 fine isnt going to stop a billionaire from thinking of doing it again but someone who makes $20k ? its also illegal to drive any motorized "machine" drunk or unlicensed, uninsured,no seatbelts etc on public roads. In all U.S states.
I worked on parneviks show, the letter is a little out of context, they wanted to know his assets to fine him according to income and also to be able to seize his assets if he cant pay the fine. So fines according to income are fare. But my problem with this is not That Bill hasn't paid the fine. My problem is that the swedish IRS keeps wasting our tax money sending him these automated letters written in SWEDISH! Asking for his assets. Knowing that hes a non swedish speaking/rich/celebrity! All they have to do is just Google his net worth and they can just write a standard fine for wealthy people based on that! Or maybe write the letter in ENGLISH! I mean it must be some kind of automated system that just keeps wasting our tax money on these pointless letters that he cant even read! And the worse thing is that this keeps going on even after the popular show Parneviks aired on swedish television with a million views and it was talked about on the news! And the swedish IRS still hasn't done anything about it or changed their methods in this case! That's the real issue here.
I am American and I have been to Sweden. I want to tell all Swedes, jag älskar Sverige! That's the little Swedish I know. Sverige är ett vackert land! I got a little help with that.
Bill is genuinely bummed to hear that the Our Gang dog had the eye circle painted on. Balaban telling him this priceless - Balaban is OLD OLD Hollywood, his family ran it. He probably knew Hal Roach, the guy who made the little rascal shorts
@@inverted311 Extorted?! Lol... He was driving a golf cart...on the street...drunk... Plus he is behaving ridiculous, they would give him a ticket, in Europe you pay a fine according to you income...so proportionally everyone pays the same percentage, that is why they were asking him about his income.
Joe Kerr You mean communism... Nope, doesn’t work that way. Identity politics at its finest..... Based off of your income... A hypothetical “$100” ticket is a “$100” ticket for everyone. Pulling some bullshit like that is exactly what we try and fight not to have happen in freedom. Europe can take that type of thought and flush it.
Joe Kerr Is there no homeless in Europe? Or does money there just insure you don’t do jail time? Or do people with no income at all just get a free pass? And that my friend is exactly why that is a terrible system and extortion.
@@inverted311 Communism? LOL! You don't know what communism is dumbass. The reason why the fine is determined on the percentage of your income is to ensure that it has the same effect on everyone...rich of poor. If a filthy rich person gets a 100 euro fine it obviously won't have the same effect on that person if he earns millions and he will continue doing it as he pleases since it's pocket change for him...as opposed to a person who earns f.e. 600-700 euros a month. If the fine is based on percentage of income then you know both these ppl will think hard twice before they decide to go on and do something stupid.
the story is adapted to suit us audiences. finland has this rule where the fine is a percentage of your income. still he might have a fee to pay but not a huge one.
well, what is not said is that there is a maximum fine. If you make a billion bucks, they will not fine you a million. I would ballpark that max would be like tops $500. Fun story though. Greetings from Stockholm, Sweden.
@@beorlingo Exactly. There is a minimum AND a maximum. And those will also vary depending on what crime you commited. Your not gonna pay one dollar for a murder if you are poor, and a billion dollar for stealing if you are rich. That would be stupid.
Sure, you can be drunk on bicycle and it is all fine. But you can not drive a golf-car on public roads when you are pissed. Even peoples drunk-driving an 4 wheel ´mover on your own property get busted. The fines are related to your income so that the fines should hurt the same no matter if you are rich or poor.
“You will be fined according to your income” - 3 really rich people look horrified - you mean I have to pay more than a poor person. I am very disappointed in there 3 - especially Bill.
Agreed, I'd call it Equality of Mistreatment instead of Socialism though. Notice how they kinda slowed down midway in their gesturing, realizing "wait, it is fair, and I am looking stupid in the grand scheme of things, or a few years from now". They: Questioning fairness is settled. What kind of dog would I be? Great question. It takes them too much effort to even pretend they're not assholes.
Bill Murray is a Hound Dog. Jeff Goldblum is a Greyhound and Bob Balaban is a Cairn Terrier. Jeff is very cool and very tall. I stood next to him in a theatre once. sigh, rather dreamy actually.
Every golden doodle I’ve ever encountered was hyper active and not very well behaved. One of my bosses had one and he would bring this terror into the office after their supposed dog training session and it would not behave one bit. And I don’t find them very esthetically pleasing either.
B. Balaban - "you know,the dogs with the circle (around the eye), they have to paint that"... B. Murray - "Oooh" As if Bob enlightened him about that,and now he's disappointed. 😆
When I was in the UK, they do do that too and I'm sure they still do. They do it as a $50 or £50 or €50 is not the same as a rich person as a poor person. People in parts of the US can be busted for drinking or being drunk on lawnmowers & golf carts too.
It would be pretty hysterical if they would just issue an international arrest warrant and take him the next time he is in Europe. I mean the US justice system fucks around in Europe all the time. Polanski arrested in 2009, Assange on borrowed time etc...
It really is kinda hard tbh, on one hand people should be equal and someone shouldn't be considered "more guilty" than anyone else. on the other hand the price of the fine shouldn't be so insignificant as to break the law and not care because you can pay the fines 1000x over, and they cant be so high as to make poor people homeless...
I was a teenager and I was detained in Switzerland for not traveling with my passport on a train. They kept me for hours and hours! They don't mess around there. You'd think I robbed a bank there. Would never go there again or Morocco as well.
I think fines being connected to income is actually the only justice system.... I live in Europe, when a poor man gets a fine he cannot actually eat and feed his family that month, to pay even a small fine, the rich people pass police at maximum speed because they know if they get a 800 euro fine that's nothing to them, its like 8 cents for them.... so it is actually immoral to take a men the ability to eat or feed his family if he does a small error like passing a radar in a downhill or some stupid shit like that. and immoral for rich people to take advantage of that since for them the same amount is nothing so injuste.... please keep in mind that I unfortunately live in the country in europe with the lowest wages, even with the fact that I have a master and many years of experience I still don't make enough to pay a fine that's how much they are expensive compared to wages....
Yes. The reaction Murray has shows how culture makes you look things from a totally different pov. He has grown in a country with a culture of "you earn your money and it's yours and yours only, and it's not anyone's business where you spend it and all taxation is socialism." That makes you think that income based fines are bad and unjustified.
thepro08: What about people paying gas, food any service really in accordance with their income. I'd be all for that. That would be a really fair justice social system. Maybe then poor folks would be able to afford to eat a good steak now and again.
@@elduderino3120 hmm interesting defense. "Your honour, my client may have been a serial child killer, but putting him in jail won't bring back those children." Yeah proportional fining is fine in a DUI golf cart case where your child is at best a spectator at the scene.🙂
You know you are dealing with an American when they lecture other countries on the consequences for the laws they break. As an American we like to impose our laws on foreign countries, brake their laws and then be a deadbeat on the basis that it's not our law. What is a police officer supposed to do with a drunken golf cart driving down the road? Are celebrities supposed to get different rules in Bill's eyes? And is he really too poor to pay a fine? Why not call a taxi? I like Bill's work but this is not something that I like to see. It gives the U.S. a bad reputation, which it has for this side. I also really like the system. The point of a fine is to deter someone from repeating behavior. $10. is a deterrent for a teen with a $10. allowance. $10,000. is not a deterrent to a rich addict. To deter something the fine must be meaningful to the person who receives the fine. It's way better than the U.S. where tickets for minor things can really affect a family for a whole month.
