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Here's the thing..... There just plainly isn't one BEST screen for every application and I absolutely DESPISE these screen material makers putting it these videos trying to get you to buy their latest and greatest screen material/color. DEPENDING on your specific projector, and by that I mean your true lumen output and a couple other small factors if you were to use the ALR black screen your picture quality could be absolute garbage because it does not REFLECT AND AMPLIFY the colors and lumen light output of your projector!!!!! Do you research folks..... Don't just go with one dude telling you that this specific screen material will work best with your projector. And sorry but 9 times out of 10 the silver screen works best. Yes.... It won't have as dark black contrast as the black screen material but it will also REFLECT AND AMPLIFY your overall light output and colors that your projector is projecting into the surface. Also keep in mind when it comes to lumens of your projector is how far away the projector is from the surface it's projecting onto!!! Please shop according to your projectors needs and capabilities 👍🏻
I new it the colors on the black just looked so dim yet the colors on the gray EVEN IN THIS VIDEO look WAY better than the black how does this guy making the video not see that
Exactly, you can clearly see how fake this videos are. If you Just look around, you can see that brightness levels are crazy. They had to use high brightness levels during recording/editing in order to fake quality of other screens. I mean, with common sense, does your image really looks like this on a white screen/wall? Even with all this, grey one has the best colors and contrast.
To have a good, grate contrast al you need to do is adjust the brightness of your proyector a see that it's a fake if you are in a very dark please and your preyectos es adjusted properly yi"ll have very grate contrast and yi"ll have a very great image so my opinion is that you have to use a white screen ore a grey lite almost white screen to get beautiful image
To have a good, grate contrast al you need to do is adjust the brightness of your proyector a see that it's a fake if you are in a very dark please and your preyectos es adjusted properly yi"ll have very grate contrast and yi"ll have a very great image so my opinion is that you have to use a white screen ore a grey lite almost white screen to get beautiful image
During this video I felt the grey still had the best color out of the 3. I can't picture myself sitting in a fully lit room to watch any movie, hence why I have blackout curtains.
to shoot on a black screen, you MUST have a top quality projector that puts out a ton of light and has a great contrast ratio. That's the only way to get white images to appear on black paint. It absolutely does help with contrast, but not all folks have projectors that can throw that much light.
I was thinking of this for years and now I am buzzy searching for a screen and tough of foing to search for my idea and come across u. Bro thanx for this demo love it. Now I know what to do. Can I use any black clothe?
hey man great video im looking for a 120 inch borderless screen do you just sell the paint ? or do you have diy kits with the frame and material ? thank you im using the Xgimi H2 LED PJ
This is basically just turning the exposure down and calling it “quality” It’s a visual trick that “works”, but is not ideal. Silver is still the superior screen because it gives a more true reflection of the image being projected.
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ive tried this black 12 and its absolutely the best.....when it comes to over all picture,,the black screen is the one,,,,and plus you can watch a movie without having to be in total darkness..silver grey white just washes out to much of the contrast
I recently purchased an Optoma UHD50X 4K projector to accommodate my PlayStation 5 for 4K gaming. I’ve spent countless hours searching online for a projector screen that will be large enough to cover the entire living room wall if possible, and I need any expert opinions on which side screen I could purchase. My dimensions are L: 174 x W: 94, Diagonal: 194. I’ve owned an Epson 8350 for 10 years, but never made a major screen purchase. Not so much concerned with the brand as I am with covering as much of the wall as possible to get the most out of my purchases. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
I should start off by saying that by no means am I expert. I’m a hobby enthusiast that loves home theater since I was young. I have a Sony 4K projector and a silver ticket 2:35 138” screen. I bring these up just for a point of reference. Who doesn’t love a big screen, but after a curtain fine line, your going to be sacrificing quality for size. There are a lot of factors that need to be considered to find the best screen for you. For the projector 1. Projector throw distance ( do you have enough room depth to get you the size you want ) 2. Check the specs of your projector, after a curtain size you will not be getting 4K anymore 3. Does your projector have enough lumens to support the screen size you want . For the screen: 1. Is the room your putting it in completely light controlled. If so and you can get the room pitch black while viewing, white is by far the best screen you can go with ( this is also your preference, some projectors are better at getting darker blacks, if you think that the blacks on your projector are kind of washed out, then the silver one is for you. But where the white lacks in black contrast, it makes up for it in color, vise versa for the silver) 2. View distance, how far is your seating from the wall. If your sitting really close to the wall, the bigger the screen, the more you have to move your head to see what’s happening. (Picture walking into an imax movie theater packed with people and the last seat is in the very first row; this is very exaggerated but you get the point. P.s this has happened to me and it was miserable, ruined the movie experience for me) 3. Does your projector support 2:35? If not go 16:9 There is other things too but they tend to be more forgiving, these are just the main things you should be asking yourself. If you really want to get the biggest screen for your wall. Literally find a screen that fits inside the dimensions of your wall and go for it but your going to wash out your picture a lot.. If you haven’t seen a 140” screen in person, I think you would be really surprised just how big it is. I always recommend silver ticket screens because for the money, they are a awesome screen. Ive bought 2 of them, 1 120” 16:9 for my 1080p hd142x optima projector, and the 138 2:35 I mentioned above when I bought the Sony and I honestly couldn’t be happier. As far as this black is the best in this video, I disagree.. it’s completely situational and sometimes it comes down to personal preference on how you like to see your screen. He just so happen to the the black screen no matter what, more power to him, but to say it’s the best no matter what is misleading. Hope this helps. P.s I’m still looking for a ps5 looool
White is better for cheaper projectors than black. I have the Dr j projector and I have it on a cream colored wall and it looks better than yours on black. But keep in mind not all projectors are the same, plus you must take in consideration if the room,light natural and powered, and usage of the projector
When I had my projectors in the past. I thought about this. But I did not do it. I should of. I would of got a better pic even with a LOW LUMENS projector. Even in the day it would be great picture because...its a dark wall with the black paint. ;) So voila your pic would still be good. Obvious really. Also not to go to deep but everything comes out of the darkness. VOID. ;) VOID(infinite potential) creates THINGS. Seed in the ground is in the dark...grows towards the light. Thanks for sharing this. Cheers. Peace. Aum.
Wow!! I just got an old 2nd hand nec projector with 3400hrs lamplife remaining, I was looking at projector screens online but because i'm from philippines i only have few options and they are all crap but because of this video i would rather go paint my wall some glossy black. Thanks for the idea! Can't wait to play PS4 Pro with a very large screen. And to think I was only playing with a crappy 32inch tv before (: This will be a huge upgrade for me
Not a bad idea, but you will have to max out the brightness and contrast to make it work. Its something the industry COULD move to but its terribly in efficient and hard on the projector.
If you don't turn the light off then it's not valid. (In case I don't watch all) up to now, about half way through you're wrong because you have bright bulbs shining on the screen, so we have reflected light?
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Honestly. People really need to see this with their own eyes, cameras do not have the dynamic range to really capture the screens individually. The darker a room is, the grey or white screen is better, as they will be substantially brighter, which is why they’re so washed out in the video. They are simply overexposed by the camera. The blacks are definitely better with a darker screen, but the brighter whites are also a huge factor. I just went from a dark grey ALR screen to an ultra white screen for a dark room and it’s way better. The dark screen was way better with the lights on.
To have a good, grate contrast al you need to do is adjust the brightness of your proyector a see that it's a fake if you are in a very dark please and your preyectos es adjusted properly yi"ll have very grate contrast and yi"ll have a very great image so my opinion is that you have to use a white screen ore a grey lite almost white screen to get beautiful image
if you know anything about color and light you know that black absorbs a LOT of light. So a black projector screen can't possibly be best. White is also not the best because it reflects light too easily so you have low contrast. Silver screens are probably the best because they give a good balance. Black just wouldn't be able to reflect enough light where it's needed. It'll look better in dark scenes probably? But I mean, it just makes no sense. I'm still curious to finish watching this but I mean....those are my initial thoughts.
well he clearly shows in realtime, across many videos on his page, that it's good in both lit and dark rooms....On it's own, yes, basic black absorbs a lot of light, which is why projecting on a surface that's just basic black paint isn't going to be good on its own. ARL combines not just black, but obviously other elements into his product that get the result you see in his videos vs. just using black paint from the store. This isn't just "black paint"/"black screen"....obviously its much more to it than that. Other home theater companies have already or are continuing to develop this same concept. If you don't like it fine. If you reject what you can see here in numerous live demos, fine. Not sure why you would...I think this is super cool and speaks for itself. Black enhances the picture - which is why nearly all screens are black (phones, tablets, TVs, etc.). I look forward to trying this product. #Science
@@kxk2328 On many of his videos, the exposure during video shooting is not correct for a white and gray screen! Image is too bright in the camera settings, it is specially made to brighten the image on a black background and in the end on a black background, the picture seems "perfect" If the author will remove the video with the right exposure on a gray background in the dark, then the grey screen is the perfect black background, and the symbols on a black background will be greatly missed brightness! Author please show the video where the gray background is dark without excessive brightness due to incorrect camera settings!
Looking at a used rz470 projector. The main weakness is its blacks. If I was to pair it with a darker screen, will that help? Or are bad blacks just bad blacks?
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You needed to turn off the lights while doing this video. Most people watch a movie in the dark or very low low ambient light. However thanks for making the video and giving up your thoughts.
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On many of his videos, the exposure during video shooting is not correct for a white and gray screen! Image is too bright in the camera settings, it is specially made to brighten the image on a black background and in the end on a black background, the picture seems "perfect" If the author will remove the video with the right exposure on a gray background in the dark, then the grey screen is the perfect black background, and the symbols on a black background will be greatly missed brightness! Author please show the video where the gray background is dark without excessive brightness due to incorrect camera settings!
You forgot certified gunmetal screens but just add white screens are consider to be the bottom dollar cheap projection screens when most people can't afford the high gun metal dark grey screens.
@@matmurk8536 so there's no room for advancing screen technologies? "Things should stay the same just because that's how they've been forever" right? If that's the logic used, I can't agree with you. Movie theaters use white screens because light bounces off of the screen in all directions, making for better viewing angles, which is needed since nearly all theater auditoriums have seating wall to wall. To the people who say that black screens are only good for lower end lumen-projectors that are just not good projectors overall - this argument is garbage. Residential/consumer level projectors that have very high lumen count almost always result in poor performance for HDR, contrast, and black levels. Those are marks *against* high lumen projectors, especially on a white screen -- the screen is bright as can be, but the reality is that there is a performance hit when it comes to accurate color representation/performance: HDR, contrast, and deep/black levels. All ALR is offering and showing is how his product makes a low end projector's image look a helluva lot better - so just imagine what an even nicer projector will look like (which I believe he uses in other demo videos). He has an effective product - there's a good amount of other large size companies who have also jumped on this type of approach as well. Do some educational research on the benefits of black screens - the pros almost always outweigh the cons, and when it doesn't it just comes down to preference (from projection/home theater industry reviewers).
also some projectors have an option called dynamic black that can really help make those black look black even on a gray screen, while yes there are some screens better than others but a good calibrated projector using a gray screen can easily beat a uncalibrated projector using a silver screen
@@kxk2328 yes some of them, but it really depends on the manufacturer, some bulbs last more than others, but eventually a bulb will need to be replace at some point anyway. i honestly don't care about buld longevity, all i want is my projector to look the best possible, today's projector are very easy to change or replace the bulb, if the person has at least some average knowledge, i don't use ECO mode, but back to my previous comment, dynamic black will make the black look black and also can make the bulb last longer because it dims the light a bit regards
@@Blackserieseditionllc TV Box Stop btw if I buy a 120 inch projector screen but move the projector closer to 84 inch. Will the quality still be fine. Need a answer asap as im about to buy one on eBay :)
@@JuanOrtiz-yk8ut lol no they don't if They did they would not be a $120 Black screens and dark grey screens are very expense. Fact the dark star 9 is a very dark grey Screen with a price tag of $3k or more.
Theaters never use black screen because the quality of projector as it is with home theater. And white paint is Deceptive use of an example. White paint is horrible to use. Texture is everything.
Hello please do research on our video demonstrations before speaking. I have done this demonstrations on 1000 lumens projector sony vpl cs4 inside and out and even that projector can't see on a grey or white projector screens. Keep in minded the grey and white screen can't even see a infinity:1 black contrast levels and have poor colors. Fact ambient light rejecting technology doesn't work on these types of screens that why videos using these types of screens are always in some kind of dark environmen just to work.
Your 'black screen' looks slightly better in high light environments compared to light grey, and definately compared to white. Outside, showrooms, patios, commercial use, yes. It catches your attention. However, in busy retail, no one sits for long watching presentation; they wont miss the crushed blacks becasue they are only seeing the eye colour candy in the graphic artist designed midrange. In a home, we can just turn down the lights to get those blacks. Filmakers love love love the dark moody aesthetic with tons of mysterious detail lurking in the shadows for your eyes to resolve, It adds a sublte tension to the film. And tension is everything in Art. (colour is an adaptive evolutionary trait invented to identify predators, with a enormous emphasis on facial recognition, to identify family, with an attendent advanced ability by discern predators from among many tshades of green foliage.) How does this compare to (ambient light rejecting)"ALR" screen in public use? Compares favourably, with this black paint, gone is the washed out image, and its a quarter the price, good. Depending on the use, and the user. But, for home use? We need shadow detail, and we sit for longer periods of time, where the content is created for graduated tone rendition. Whereas commercial content is all bright flashing logos and wham bang wow. Maybe bring this up at the beginning of your presentation: For those seeking a more affordable solution in a high brightness setting, with a commercial/transient target audience, better picture than white screen, with a massive cost advantage over ALR. Also, even it it was going to be used for home use, what about levels adjustment in the lower end? A custom curve raising the lower third of the gamut seems nessesary to acheive shadow detail. Projectors do not have a levels control like Photoshop. Contrast and brightness do not cut it. gamma is more helpful, but is not fine tunable. So, whats the point of using this indoors? I can just paint my room a medium grey to stop light bouncing back onto the white screen. It would be helpful to have better level controls in video players on the mac or pc.
This is pure nonsense. With a light controlled room, a white screen is a lot better than your black screen. Stop lying to people. Grey or black screens are a compromise used for rooms with no light control, that is simply what they are good for. Or if you have a sad projector with super low contrast and high black levels
I Absolutely don't like it. The reason why. Your whites on the black screen is BLUE PERIOD. NOT WHIT. GRAY IS WAY BETTER THAN ANYTHING OUT. Flat out projectors are made for Dark rooms, never ever a lit area. Get a TV if your going to view in both. A projector is for Movies in dark spaces. Like a theater, you never see a theater played in a lit room have you. It's common sense people. Get a projector, your watching movies etc. In a dark room. Otherwise get a TV you'll have ten times the picture. Never use this black screen. You'll never get the correct colors from any company.
Yes this guy is full of it. He claims no white screen can look black (well it can in a dark room with a good projector) but surely forgets to mention that whites will.never look white on a black screen.
@@shaolin95 weird the whites on my 65" LED and OLED Tvs are white...and the screen is black....you're right....how dare there be an advancement or improvement in screen technology..Im with you, this is the work of "the devil"....
