Why BMW's Investment In Electric Bus Company Proterra Is Big News For The Future of How We Travel 

The fuck do you mean!?The sound is the best part!

Netherland is quickly replacing all busses by electrical, several cities already are electric busses only, the last ICE busses will be replaced in 2020 making all busses electrical in whole Netherland =)

electricity is the perfection in term of type of energy.

We're working on it. Limited resources though!

They don't need either, rails are slightly more efficient than road travel, insignificant in a city. The advent of battery electric vehicles makes trolley buses and streetcars obsolete.

Because they are crap, impractical and a maintenance headache as well as far more expensive, block the movement of tall loads in the city, a nutty idea with the advent of cheap, high capacity batteries.

So, the "greenies" aren't sufficiently supporting the battery-electric city bus? Have they embraced Trump's "clean coal"?

I'm unsure what the issue is with buses or trains? I know in the U.S. there's a lot of negative thoughts attached to them, but in Europe, (especially mainland Europe) trains and buses are perfectly normal forms of transportation, especially for commuting. Perhaps you can explain further?

Transport Evolved yeah I'm going to get my and my wife's windsurfing kit to the beach, get our mountain bikes to the alps on a bus, I was in the motor industry for 19 years, left 14 years ago, then the manufacturers used to wheel out there green car each year, yeah and that was the same car as the previous year, my problem is they are still playing lip service now, I3 and i8, cars for the masses ? "Carbon fibre" cars. I get Tesla, they have been open with their plan. the rich pay for the development of an affordable car, BMW and VW are already rich, they could change the game, the motor industry repeats itself and never learns, Ford bought, Land Rover, Volvo Jaguar, GM bought saab Opel, that went well didn't it (not) so having lost loads of money, there next thing is green automotive company's. as I said before, they could change the game by getting on and making affordable green cars rather than buying buses, what ever you do, don't get me onto autonomous cars, how many roads are too narrow that they have passing places and no lines in the middle or the edges, my XC 90 can read the road, read the white lines, well not if there is mud on the road, heavy rain, and it especially can't when they are so faded and worn out. It's time for some real life reporting, in the teal world just go down to any village pub and ask if they want to a, car share. B,have an autonomous car. Or c, have a car just like they have at the moment, but don't ask when they last saw a bus in their village, Rant Over

The problem is that the traditional car industry is killing the planet. We need to go from 45 Gt to 7 Gt of CO2-e emissions in three decades to have even an outside chance of limiting global warming to 2 degrees C. Personally, I prefer stable coastlines, healthy oceans, stable agricultural production and biodiversity far more than the ability to drive a polluting personal vehicle.

Amos Batto yep totally agree, my whole argument is that the big companies could change the world,rather than playing at being green with i3 and i8. Just get on with it now. They could take a stand and stop building diesels this year and stop building petrols next year and become an electric car company, i3 and i8 are niche markets so they can proclaim they are worried about the environment and doing their bit, they could spend the money they are putting into the bus company to put in charging stations like the super chargers of tesla, I feel the motor industry is just playing lip service to green motoring, when they have the wealth to do so much more,

The traditional car industry is not killing the planet, but it is a significant factor, total transportation is ~15% of GHG emissions, total road transport is ~10% of emissions. Electric vehicles could reduce that 10% to 5% or less.