If i play with friends I couldn't give a single shit if I'm losing, but on solo q your teammates being absolutely braindead is annoying, but your friends being stupid is funny and you can joke around with it, and overall like playing breach and talking with your friends is just a better thing then playing breach alone. (I have no friends so I suffer on breach every single day)
I respect Breach for what it brought to the game and the shake-up of the monotomous grind Dominion can be sometimes, however I'm saying this purely as a guy who plays Breach vs. Bots because an actual game of Breach terrifies me. With that being said, Breach has some HUGE downsides that I think stop it from being a more beloved gamemode, most of which you covered in this video. I think both suggestions you made of: A) A surrender button and B) a system of 1 hero per team can fix the biggest problem in my eyes when it comes to Breach: steamrolls. In Dominion, when you get steamrolled by an enemy team, yeah it's incredibly tilting, but whatever, it'll only last about 5-10 minutes. But in Breach, steamrolls are PAINFUL, especially when you get salty babies leaving in the first 5 minutes that allows the enemy team to completely demolish the game (which is not fun for either team). Breach has so much potential but I don't see it getting any love from the Devs unless a mass surge in popularity happens (which, remember when they stopped giving orders for tribute?) is unlikely. Great video bro, keep it up.
imma be honest, every time i play breach i try to go with characters that either have arrow storm or catapult because it honestly makes the mode feel better, specially when youre attack just being able to command a bunch of archers to rain down some arrows from outside of the castle is just so fun, same thing with the catapult i kinda just wish we could do that without the feats, like how you can use the ballistas or the cauldron, i think it would be cool if you could use a catapult in some area of the map to attack the ram or other players, but using it requires you to stand still, being vulnerable and spend a long time reloading the catapult for use but sadly i feel like adding something like this could either be extremelly OP or useless because, well why would you want to spend so much time standing still loading a catapult when you can just use the ballista for faster damage ? but still, i feel like adding something like this to help you interact with the map would go a long way
I agree with all of your points However I feel the mode is just overly sided towards the attackers, even without Hitokiri/Warmonger. Really all you have to do is push the rampart, there is almost no reward for pushing the ram. Also most buffs are closer to attacker's spawns.
It's kind of implied in this video but even without hero stacking breach is SUPER attacker sided. You spawn closer to buffs, shield banner, and guardian most of the time. Taking objectives and pushing the ram are really the only things you need to focus on to win because even without Hito or warmonger, the commander in most cases is VERY easy to kill. The only times I've won defenses or lost an attack recently is only when I have a teammate leave. Destroying the ram sometimes feels impossible otherwise.
They should ad something to breach like in shadow of war wher defenders can pick cool defenses and actually change the game. Same with attackers being able to choose offensive things like maybe Elite officers or something like archers having explosive arrows.
Its not just that but the problem for breach for me is that people will literally rage quit during the first phase is they see that they aren't pulling the couldron and no damage in ram or the ram is getting damage because they wont capture zones and stop the pike man from destroying ram and whats worse is that forhonor forces you stay in the game or you get kicked out of 10 minutes which is fucking stupid btw i don't rage quit but if my whole team does it why is it fair for me to wait getting spawn ganked by all 4 with jucied up guardian shield with all maxed feats and wheb you get revenge then bam oathbreaker and then repeat just get rid of rage quit penalty but not on dominion
I think Breach is the most complicated game mode as well as the one that needs the most teamwork… however it’s for honor and a lot of players refuse to play the game mode they queued in. I hate when my teammates just refuse to defend the rampart and stay fighting at the healing zone for 10 minutes while I am fighting alone against two or three of the opposing team. Like how are the three of you stuck on one or two players for ten minutes???
heum am going to be real and respectfull as much as i can you can win easely against gardian buffed people cause they tend to count on the sheild to tank sooooo it sound like a skill issue for the most part but yea if you see 4 warmonger on attack in breach it over
Do you know what is the worst thing? After you play half an hour in only one game and when you get award you don't get anything because of a server error. F%#% you Ubisoft wasted my time and award
"Man, I love big castles and sieges! Let's defend Jerusalem!" Sees enemy Warmonger on the attacking team. "Alright, so this isn't a protect the commander game anymore, it's a protect the FUCKING GATE as THAT SHIT CANT BE POISONED!"
As a guy whose played since the Beta, and a true Breach Enjoyer, please do make a Breach guide. A lot of people would enjoy it more if they understood what the fuck to do and prioritise in a game of breach.
Breach needs a ranked mode. With single pick on hero’s, more balancing toward feats and certain QoL changes, like making Commander immune to poison or something
One thing I wish you mentioned about the good in breach is the respawn time, it’s long enough that you can actually heal up and do something meaningful with the time you got from a kill. In dom you could kill someone, cap a point and before you’re even full hp they’re back to kill you, it’s more noticeable in smaller maps with 3 spawns in the middle like overwatch or cathedral but it ruins those maps for me. Breach will always be peak fh, purely objective opinion trust
it would be but pair it with 15 second long exes and youre not playing the game for almost 40 seconds. which can lead to rage quits, anything that leads to a rage quit cant be deemed good. but i see your point, getting a kill has weight to it
Honestly, Breach has been my most-played gamemode for a long time now, and about half of my favorite maps are from Breach. The gamemode is just so much more enjoyable for me - even more so than Dominion. However, my personal favorite game mode goes to the long-forsaken Tribute. I loved Tribute when it came out - still do, despite its lack of players. ‘Tis my favorite version of Capture the Flag I’ve ever seen, as well as the most unique. For those who never played it (probably most of you) instead of just being another “Take red flag; don’t lose blue flag” game, Tribute had multiple flags that offered buffs based on where you captured. It wasn’t just about grabbing the flag and beelining for the capture point; you actually had a choice of _how_ to help your team. Got an ally at low health being chased? Go for the Guardian shrine and buy them some time to get help. Trying to blitzkrieg the enemy? Place the Vindicator and charge in with an attack buff! But the Oracle was by far the most useful, revealing the outlines of the enemies to everyone on your team - literal wallhacks; probably needed a rework, but Tribute gets fewer updates than TF2 at this point. This was balanced - quite well, in my _totally_ unbiased opinion - by two things; the slower speed, and respawn times. For the uninitiated, carrying a tribute works just like in Breach, slowing you down enough that you’d rarely escape without either help or a significant lead. In addition, each tribute captured extended your team’s respawn timer by ten seconds, so having all three tributes captured left you a full thirty seconds of waiting for respawn (still not as bad as Breach.) This meant that, the closer your team got to victory, the worse each death would cripple you. I had _so_ many games where we snatched victory from the jaws of defeat, and just as many where our enemy yoinked it right from under us. Far and away the best Capture þe Flag I’ve ever seen in a video game. On a separate note, ‘twas really nice to have smaller maps for Tribute. The close-quarters nature of For Honor and the slowing effect for carriers meant they couldn’t just slap us into Dominion maps with pieces blocked off, like they do for Duels and Brawls. In fact, most of my favorite maps in this game are Tribute maps: Secluded Keep, Canopy, Tower Ɍuin, Forest, Cinder Mill, etc. If you couldn’t tell… I really like Tribute. What frustrates me is that no other melee-combat game - Mordhau, Kingdom Come, etc. - has a CtF mode as far as I know, and Tribute would be _so_ much worse in a shooter game where all the other CtF options are, so I doubt we’ll ever get another experience like Tribute ever again… Thank you all for coming to my TED Talk about For Honor’s forsaken game mode. Sorry to completely go off the rails here, but I never get to talk about Tribute, and this video reawakened some long-forgotten feelings. I can also guarantee this is the most thought anyone has put into Tribute since its release, and that fact HURTS.
I just wanted to say that I've had your videos running in the back while I do work and study and it's refreshing to hear a unique perspective. I realized I didn't sub and now I have so thank you for giving me background videos to work to.
There is an other reason for me to not playing this gamemode as frequently i used to. Imagine playing a game for like 30 minutes,done a perfect kd,all you're teammates have activated their xp boost + champion's boost,and,once you finally win the game,and you are first,one ennemy decide to rage-quit,because they are mad i guess,well it will say that there is an "error" with Ubisoft's servers,letting you get the rewards you should have for this match,but it will never happen,loosing 30 minutes of grind just for nothing . And i don't see the solution to play against AI,it is just not fun.
raptor pls make a video on tribute, as a player with 2k hours i’ve never played a single tribute match and i want to know why no one plays it and what it even is
@@TheGrooovyDude Agreed. A unanimous or at the minimum 3 to 1 vote. One initiates the vote, two or three can decide yes or no. I say two so that way you dont have one griefer trying to ruin the game because they cant agree
Fun fact: the Guardian buff merely increases your damage towards Pikemen, which in most cases is enough to one-shot them. Found this out when I impaled one with the buff, it put the Pikemen's health into critical, but did not instantly kill him. It's just that the buff increases the damage to them.
There’s just a certain dopamine feeling I get just from the atmosphere alone in breach. A genuine good breach game that’s neck and neck can feel like a campaign mission or even a movie
Going 5 matches of ANY game mode without teammates ragequitting is a challenge in itself. I understand the game can be impossibly frustrating, but the average current-day For Honor player has gone so soft that they can’t even stick around long enough to collect their own rewards and loot anymore.
People also get rewards when losing a breach match so never got why quit, I get it may be annoying to wait and see the team getting destroyed but the challenge to still try and win or at the least make them earn the win to the last life its the best part. Also, when the team manages to win by a hair....how rewarding 😅 it happens so often when the other team feels they have it in the bag and lollygag for a bit too long. Having a limit of 1 hero selected per team will be the sweet spot I don't mind fighting a team with shield, maybe reduction to 75 from 125 (two extra heavies and a light I can live with that).
I really only play breach (with bots, cause I'd want to kill myself with real players) is because of how much XP I can get, especially with the double or so XP. It's ONLY "enjoyable" when you're the attackers, defenders make me beyond miserable.
I NEED a guide to how do the zones advance in breach! Sometimes they are acquired Fast. Sometimes SUPER SLOW! Sometimes it seems a zone won’t advance even if you’re in it and everything is clear. I never truly understood it.
I got a guy, we breach a lot and his priority, kills. I love playing with him, but I end and playing around him, fulfilling roles for my team that he otherwise would be responsible for in that game mode. I fully intend to have him review this video.
Thank you. I love breach, but all my frustrations have been covered in this video. I also think heroes like Gryphon and Black prior are good heroes for breach, mostly defending but can also attack in breach. I hate hero stacking, but in my opinion, black priors the worst. BP has a perk that removes shields, regardless of guardian buff, revenge mode and vengeful barrier. BP also grants a temporary shield to teammates and the commander. Imagine fighting 2 black priors in a breach match...
they needa rework rewards for deathmatch and honestly just make a mix queue gamemode for all 3 (4 because skirmish and deathmatch are semi different) add 6 maps to vote for at the end of the match that contain atleast 1 of each mode, and 2 additional maps to vote that are whatever the previous gamemode was
The problem with breach IS that Many people try to do everything. Banner push, warden kill, Rush to comander, etc. Alone while machtmaking and end Up dropping the Game or giving the enemy and advantage.
Dude I agree with you on most points but 1) I don't think the guardian buff is overkill, it's such a waste of time of the whole team to get it that either the other team destroys the game while you're at it, or they figure it out, come for you and now good luck fighting over it. and 2) I know ragequitting is a real problem, but to me, the worst possible issue you can have is braindead people playing this game and having not a single clue what they are supposed to do. Winning against a braindead opposing team is boring, and losing because for some reason your teammates are always at the wrong place doing some incomprehensible bullshit is rage inducing. I will NOT ragequit JUST because the enemy has killed the guardian or double stacked banners, those odds are even more of a challenge to overcome. But I absolutely will if those are the results of somehow my team being busy ganking pikemen at the back of zone 1 when the ram is docked and I'm the only one trying to prevent the enemy to get the banner or guardian and getting ganked while spamming comms to try at least to tell my clueless team what to do and they didn't listen.
I think if they could switch it up so rather defending a guardian how about defending a wall that gradually takes damage by enemy players not by the ram. Having different last ditch defense really changes the gameplay for example: defend the civilians: keep all civilians alive they have health bars and they run around the map fast. Can be ordered to stay put or run or have them follow you. You can have 2 civilians follow you. Each hero can have up to 2 civilians have them follow. This would be like that wolf mission with that Viking boss. Next defend the royal family: family is barricaded or in the tallest tower and you have to defend a door or a staircase. This forces players to think outside the box rather than just charging in. This also funnels players in tight CBQ. defend the secret weapon: secret weapon does massive area damage but slow recharge, enemy players must destroy it. Maps are extra wide and open. Open battlefields enabling heroes to move all over the place. The secret weapon is fired by a bot and is slow moving but does massive area damage. This also includes special feats you can pick up due to how open the battlefield is like a knight using arrow storm to clear out an area, or fire flask to cut reinforcements . This game will be like that Viking mission storming the beach where arrows, debris and explosives are everywhere. defend resources like that raider campaign mission they are defended by small gates. Gates take damage and you have to loot. Enemy players if they die holding loot they drop it to be recollected later by teammates or yourself. The more loot you carry and live and end the game with the more reward you get like triple XP, triple amount of gear, a low chance of winning a free skin and effect. If you already have the skin you win double steel. Matches like this you can win 2,000 steel in a single match. lastly defend your hero (1 player picked random gets health boost and damage and defend boost) they can’t get any health other than execution heals but heals are small amount so communication and assist become a big deal. This allows the hero chosen to move around the map and choose the battle area. Defend weak point: you can either A take the area by force by capturing a sector like dominion but it takes a lot slower unless all 4 players are on it then it will speed up. OR have 1 player carry a bomb and detonate area. Bomb is dropped if player is killed. Player carrying bomb has movement slower and does weaker damage and faster stamina drain. If the player is executed carrying bomb the bomb restarts at the beginning forcing you to retreat and replan. Last one for glory! This is the only special mode where it’s all tickets but it’s 16 players 8 vs 8. Tickets are your lives. Team that has most tickets at the end wins the battle.
Breach I think is high risk high reward in solo queue. If you get teammates who know how to play the game decently (not even good) you will bare minimum have a fun game that’s close or a win, however if you get bad teammates it’s one of the most miserable 15-30 minutes of your life.
I main warmommy and can confirm, only having one feels specialized into fucking up the commander, but nothing too crazy if the event team doesn't bunch up. having two on my team is just fucked up beyond all recognition. Locking characters to one per team would be good for breach.
The leaver problem is obviously bad, but if I'm defending and the enemy team has Hito or WM I'm just leaving cause the randoms are not gonna be able to save us from them insta killing the commander. Not to mention Sohei can farm stacks off captains....
Hm meta heroes being warmonger and hitokiri while i can hate hito steamroller warmonger tends to be a byproduct of the three stooges on Healing Zone doing nothing else then sitting on HZ and ganking half or low health players other then killing the victim or getting antiganked back to spawn just to do that again
Breach is an interesting game mode, it is by far the most strategic game mode in the game. As an attacker, I have lost a game where we did extremely well and obtained 20 respawn points but my team got lazy and ended up fighting at our respawn point till all of our lives drained instead of focusing on commander, ballista or rampart. As a defender I have also lost a game where we did well and gave the attackers just few respawn points but if it happens that the second gate falls while your whole team is dead, the enemy team will attack the commander and kill him (especially warmonger). Some games start well first gate and end up bad phase 2. Whereas, other games start horribly phase 1 and end well second gate. You just never know with this mode, yet people leave once it gets tough.
Its like you said, breach without leavers is the best game because it just has a lot more to it than dominion. It becomes so much more of a team game with various ways of skill expression. Sadly the leaver problem completely ruins the experience :(
I was saying since breach came out that they need to make the officers, guardian and commander have the same coding as a pikeman. Like corruption dont affect them and they can’t trigger feats. Also nerf hito damage on commander / guardian by half at least. Especially with sohei him being able to charge on these AI should be a huge red alert on ubisoft.
As much as I love breach. The rage quit problem in that makes it frustrating and I do think it would be a good idea to have a surrender option not just in breach but that could also work in other game modes. But all and all there's no way they're gonna make more breach maps anytime soon.
breach legit feels impossible to lose if you're attacking, if your team is not *litterally braindead* the amount of respawns attackers get, the spawn positions at the start of waves, point captures. It feels stacked against you if you're a defender and more like you're stalling than fighting
I think sohei has joined the new meta of killing commander as getting soul stacks is easy farm officer and guardian get third and fourth feat 139 dmg twice if you prestacked
I wish I could play breach. But I cant wait there for 30 min for every one to quit and AI has a but rn where any fully ai match chrashes in 30s from the start even duels.
What I hate the most about breach is that pikemen give so much renown that every game there is 1 player on your team spending 20 minutes boosting the ram and just killing pikemen. Not only are they not helping to take the rampart or fight for the banner sometimes they indirectly help the enemy team by pushing the ram past the conquered ramp parts where the ram takes so much damage from enemy pikemen . Its so demotivating.
The tutorial the game gives you about breach is quite possibly the most useless piece of information ever conceived in gaming. It’s more confusing than it is redundant
For honor needs new maps more then anything. Jesus Christ just convert some of the deathmatch maps to dominion or something. Cathedral was amazing when it released just because it was new
I just don't think people give breach a chance, it can be incredibly fun, and I have seen a losing team turn the tables so fast that winning team panicks
I honestly watched this video hopped on breach and just kept going to rampart and watching the banner and people do rage quit lol playing rampart is literally the ticket to winning lol
A couple days ago I was playing a breach as defenders and 2 of my teammates left the game, once the enemies got through the last gate one of my bots was just stood behind the ram at the broken gate and didn’t do a single thing until we lost
this is sad to say for me but for honor was the only game I was like yeah this aint a fighting game and then after 2020 I realized wait I'm stupid this is in fact a fighting game
Please bless us with the breach guide. I am a new player and usually get extremely confused in this game mode tho it seems fun and reminds me of the fun sieges in bannerlord
I love breach as a game mode, and I might be alone in think that it could be a great ranked game mode over duels, since it involves team fighting and a legit objective that both teams would have to fight over, rather than the fuck fest that can be dominion
I actually played it with my friends but imma say this me and my friends either insult the enemy team for how scared they were and how annoying they are since the enemy team needed three people to beat one of us but at the end we won than agreed upon never playing it when we are together
