When I googled "why india can't produce nobel laureates" i found this. Then i googled "what is indian government doing to produce nobel laureates" and i got the same thing.
We, Indians, worship the rank holders in entrance exams more than real achievers in science and arts altogether. Do the whole world collectively agree on these are the real questions that we need to ponder about. Not only the science, the same phenomenon is seen over and over again across diverse walks of life. Be it sports, movies and name anything you could. The list just goes on and on. They only beat around the bushes and boast about out GLORIFIED PASTS.
Excellent sociological analysis of the business of doing science in India ... perhaps some of the “realities” of what’s happening in India in the name of doing science could have been mentioned, like professional jealousies, sabotage, plagiarism, faulty promotion criteria enforced by college administrations and universities, exploitation of the younger entry level scientists by senior scientists to suit their own selfish agenda, caste and religion based reservation and biases, predatory journals operating on an industrial scale, unrealistic hopes and expectations on the IITs when the training there and even the admission basis isn’t geared to being a creative and original thinker etc etc etc etc etc
ICTS invites only top 50 people in entrances for interviews. So those students who score less marks because of their inability to memorize things, but who are actually pretty good research minded, are weeded out.
Don't sell yourselves short. India has produced plenty who are worthy. The Nobel Awards are not determined by merit alone, it is a political process run out of Sweden. They might not know or think of themselves as racists, but they are. Your government will do diddly squat to produce Nobel -winners [cough]- recipients until they get a couple of Asians on the Nobel committee boards (Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences, the Karolinska Institute, and the Swedish Academy).
Questions/Comments: 1. Why are Nobel Prizes important anymore? They were back in the day, but the rate of progress in science has slowed exponentially (the rate of publications has increased the other way, but "progress" in the fundamental sense has slowed) and the Nobel peizes since ~1980s seem to prove that. This would also be true for the other "prestigious" prizes (Breakthrough, Millenium, Kiti, etc.). Maybe India should invent the modern suitable science prize that is a model for the world. Recall that our ancient civilization was a model for the world in terms of exporting knowledge and practices. 2. 9:38 Why are number of patents important? You have to make the link between the number of patents and the true economic progress clearer. Maybe India itself should modernize the patent system. As it stands we should leave blindly chasing patents to the Chinese. 3. You talk a big deal about ambition, but you yourself are a string theorist This is the safe, non-exceptional option that is based on fantasy created by Westerners. China is also purely copying, we shouldn't mistake this for ambition. 4. 21:00 Again, Fields Medals and Abel Prizes have been irrelevant for decades. This is very different to Riemann inventing Riemannian geometry or Decartes inventing the Cartesian co-ordinte system. This should not be the measure of success - we are plyaing by rules that are set by others and pretend that we can win. The average Indian will not have the motivation to publish productively (in English) in some irrelevant area of number theory. 5. 25:10 Again, we have adopted the British model of a education and "specialisation", and then we turn around and pretend that our "experts" have to now be interdisciplinary, and create a whole fad around "interdisciplinary research" 6. 31:15 This advisory board is deeply worrying. Almost none of the have our interests at heart, and do not understand our culture. They will promote whatever model works in the West (publishing productively, specialization, worship of the individual) and we will blindly follow and seek approval. This is a clear sign a continued cultural subjugation. 7. 46:40 We do not need a stamp of approval form some Fields Medalist, doing work that is completely irrelevant for the Indian economy/culture. Please stop spreading this inferiority complex to our young students. I understand you have it personanlly/institutionally, but the young people need the opposite of this.
The speaker is completely ignorant of the few genuine successes in biomedical research (some impactful publications from AIIMS which changed clinical practice worldwide, indigenous breakthroughs in neonatal public health care, agricultural genetics, etc.) - because he cannot see beyond IITs and engineering institutions in his foolishness!
@@ShreyanJain3616 I am a fool - that is established. My point is that the speaker has not looked at clinical, agricultural, and fundamental biomedical research, where Indian scientists have achieved some degree of notable success.
@@SanthoshKumar-hv2ls And the last time I checked neither has any IIT'ian won a Nobel Prize. On another note, I run the Data Sc core at a CRO. I have interviewed several IIT'ians. Most (but certainly not all) of them have very poor problem solving skills. They are essentially trained techs. This is not their fault though, it is a complex issue.
that is a terrible thing to say about someone, this represents the backwardness of people like you, pls get some education before you make these comments
