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Why Canada is cutting back on temporary foreign workers 

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The government has announced that they are cutting down on the numbers of low-wage temporary foreign workers being admitted into the country. The new rules will reverse pandemic-era changes to the program, which led to a sharp rise in numbers. The announcement also comes on the heels of a UN report calling the program a “breeding ground for contemporary forms of slavery.”
The Globe’s economics reporter Matt Lundy breaks down what’s driving the change, and how it will impact businesses and workers.
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@ap0lmc
@ap0lmc 15 дней назад
Not only did Trudeau allowed Tim Hortons to hire them for less money but Tim Hortons also gets a subsidies.
@john.a.gonsalves3731
@john.a.gonsalves3731 15 дней назад
is that being indentured....
@dakotahstr
@dakotahstr 15 дней назад
Garden Gallery in Barrie also does this basically. They only hire students more than older because they only have to pay so much then the government kicks in. Was told this by an older employee there. I tried 3 times, have a car, work weekends am a florist
@jazw4649
@jazw4649 15 дней назад
​@@dakotahstrI was told to drop my high school graduation year and most of my experience off my resume to appear younger just to get interviews.
@Johnny-v5p
@Johnny-v5p 14 дней назад
Tim Hortons also holds their passports
@user-xc3tq9bu9v
@user-xc3tq9bu9v 14 дней назад
@@Johnny-v5pI think Walmarts and fast food chains do the same damn thing
@hogi27
@hogi27 14 дней назад
CANADIAN CITIZENS MUST BE GIVEN JOBS FIRST BEFORE FOREIGNERS. CANADIAN CITIZENS MUST BE GIVEN PRIORITY FOR HOUSING BEFORE REFUGEES.
@carlawestlund4429
@carlawestlund4429 10 дней назад
@@hogi27 well you said wat sooo many of us are afraid to come right out and speak up about the truth
@iam1smiley1
@iam1smiley1 10 дней назад
Currently, it's the opposite.
@partyeslife8157
@partyeslife8157 10 дней назад
imagine if the Canadians won't apply because they think it's below them 🤣🤣and then there's this gap because Canadian students won't want to work at fast food or at farms or do any cleaning
@carlawestlund4429
@carlawestlund4429 10 дней назад
@@partyeslife8157 imagine all you want nay sayer
@partyeslife8157
@partyeslife8157 10 дней назад
@@carlawestlund4429 well I don’t need to imagine cause i was one of them 🤣 why would I want to work at McDonalds lol naysayer more like I experienced it 🤣
@bushwacker5359
@bushwacker5359 15 дней назад
I don’t need 19:15 mins to answer your question. Simply put, it’s hurting them in the polls. That’s all the Liberal party cares about.
@gsin311
@gsin311 15 дней назад
Lol yup that is pretty much the only reason
@wlm7434
@wlm7434 14 дней назад
@@bushwacker5359 you seem to be under the belief that the election system is still legitimate and trustworthy
@bushwacker5359
@bushwacker5359 13 дней назад
@@wlm7434 the voting aspect of our elections is still legitimate, for the most part. It’s the garbage leading up to an election like bribing us with our own money or politicians who do an about-face on their policies to garner votes that has me upset. If you don’t trust the elections now, wait until the NDP and Liberals start coordinating which party will pull the weakest candidate out of certain ridings to ensure a win for their coalition.
@tonybaloney8401
@tonybaloney8401 13 дней назад
Came here to say this as well
@sblack48
@sblack48 13 дней назад
@@gsin311that’s the only reason any politician does anything. Peepee is absolutely no different.
@SonicPhonic
@SonicPhonic 15 дней назад
I was born in Canada and was hired by a restaurant in 2021 by an Indian employment agency and never scheduled. That restaurant was run by an Indian and 100% of the staff are from India or are not born in Canada. English or French are not their first language. The program was never enforced. My former roommate back in 2013 was scammed by a fake lawyer/immigration consultant. We need government workers to take responsibility for their work. If Canadians are collecting EI while foreign workers get jobs, the country will go broke.
@soleikam6662
@soleikam6662 13 дней назад
try calling Rogers and understand what you are told
@SonicPhonic
@SonicPhonic 13 дней назад
@@soleikam6662 Been there...I had scammers claiming to work for Rogers who tried to sell me a new phone and plan. I think that one of their employees sold my contact info. I called Rogers and was put on hold for 45 minutes, I went to the store and was told it was a scammer's number, which was incorrect. A family member lost investments in Nortel, the Canadian telecom giant, after it was hacked by the Chinese military. That's possibly where China got g5 technology. Nortel knew what was going on and did nothing. That company should have been protected by the Canadian government as a national security asset.
@jakecarroll5
@jakecarroll5 12 дней назад
That's the plan is to destroy the country. Look up anything WEF related and you'll get the big picture.
@HondAcura111
@HondAcura111 11 дней назад
The pizza place I'm at is all people from India. He only hires more people from India and he's racist against white people giving them fewer deliveries than someone that speaks his language. Also the quality and hygiene has gone extremely downhill since his ownership. Only do half or less of the normal number of orders. He's running it into the ground. The workers can't even speak english. They are completely incapable of doing the job.
@misschrysalis
@misschrysalis 15 дней назад
Anyone notice that he said they're cutting back on TFW *except* in the food, retail, and construction industries? Since that's where the great majority of them are working, basically nothing is changing.
@gsin311
@gsin311 15 дней назад
Lol yup
@windatar6351
@windatar6351 15 дней назад
Technically there is some change just not a lot. The two big points is that they're going back to the 10% max foreign workers in a workforce and going back to enforce the 6% unemployment can no longer file the paperwork. Truderp will see how it goes, but if its too slow and his numbers don't budge I could see him freaking out and going drastic. Truderp only cares about himself and I could see him doing something drastic to save his own job. He only has a year left to beg people to vote for em.
@misschrysalis
@misschrysalis 15 дней назад
@@windatar6351 Does that 10% max apply to those industries I mentioned tho?
@windatar6351
@windatar6351 15 дней назад
@@misschrysalis The Government of Canada will refuse to process Labour Market Impact Assessments (LMIAs) in the Low-Wage stream, applicable in census metropolitan areas with an unemployment rate of 6% or higher. Exceptions will be granted for seasonal and non-seasonal jobs in food security sectors (primary agriculture, food processing and fish processing), as well as construction and healthcare; Employers will be allowed to hire no more than 10% of their total workforce through the TFW Program. This maximum employment percentage will be applied to the Low-Wage stream and is a further reduction from the March 2024 reduction. Exceptions will be granted for seasonal and non-seasonal jobs in food security sectors (primary agriculture, food processing and fish processing), as well as healthcare and construction; and The maximum duration of employment for workers hired through the Low-Wage stream will be reduced to one year (from two years). Taken straight from the Canada.ca website. The only two sectors that will pretty much be unaffected will be Construction+Argicultural Aka Farming and fish farming. The new change is essentially to remove TFW's from the retail sector. So Fastfood/Shops/Timhortins/Starbucks/Liquorstores ECTECT. Will this go far enough? Probably not, however with most places showing 6% unemployment what this does is allow Canada to blanketly reject new LLIM's forms. So low wage jobs outside of construction and farming can no longer post poor or stupid job requirements get no hits and go. "See? we need TFW's RIGHT NOW!" If they do it, the government will automatically decline it with. "Unemployment is 6% of greater, denied." Truderp right now is panicking, he knows he's about to get replaced which is the only reason he's doing this, however this is a half measure when experts are saying to scrap the TFW program completely, he will see his numbers get worse or not change for 6 months and then he'll do a knee jerk reaction. Probably canceling the program outright. Its a step.
@dangrather1280
@dangrather1280 13 дней назад
They’re just doing bad in the polls. The Liberals have their agenda and will do it whether most Canadians like it or not. They will then gaslight and play dumb. Then pretend to fix it. It’s all intentional. The Liberals and NDP are globalists. They answer to their masters and they aren’t voters.
@zoemikhchi9819
@zoemikhchi9819 15 дней назад
Damage is done. Million of foreign temporary workers are in the country w no experience and they will stay. Incompetence liberal/NDP government. One mistake, bad policy after another.
@catcollision8371
@catcollision8371 15 дней назад
It was not a "mistake", it was done on purpose. Part of the "Century Initiative" plan by ✡BlackRock✡.
@tehabnorm
@tehabnorm 15 дней назад
Malice not incompetence
@therollerstoned
@therollerstoned 15 дней назад
No, as a FW, i know all too well that it doesn't work like that. Many, i mean hundred of thousands with experience, who have been living for years in Canada and have sacrificed so much and struggled so hard, are now about to face deportation. Years of their lives about to go down the drain. It is absolutely inhumane from the government to bring us here, and then now treat us as an inconvenience and about to ruin so many people lives. I've met countless of immigrants who are qualified smart people, lawyers of 10+years where they're from and can only find jobs as dishwashers.
@re-replied
@re-replied 15 дней назад
Do you have any stats: How many of them stayed? Or, you're just an unhappy person, and came here to vent>?
@jigneshdevganiya
@jigneshdevganiya 15 дней назад
@@re-repliedI know some people who are out of status and living and know many who are saying that they will never go back if never become PR.
@wilfdarr
@wilfdarr 15 дней назад
The problem with this program has always been that employers offer an inappropriately low wage and then use that as proof that they can't find local workers: it undermines the health of the Canadian economy and distorts the free market that is essential to the proper function of our system. You hold up rural communities with their lack of working age people as a legitimate use of this program but it's just the opposite: if people were paying appropriately for workers in those communities, their youth wouldn't have left for the city: these towns are dying and contributing to the housing crisis in urban centers because people refuse to pay appropriately for services rendered, and having this program to fall back on only reenforces this bad behavior!
@Breadbored.
@Breadbored. 15 дней назад
That's exactly the issue. I've got no problem bringing people in to do work where there is a legitimate shortage of workers, but that's not what's happening. Employers are being incentivized to only hire foreign workers.
@peterslupek6561
@peterslupek6561 15 дней назад
Well said! My boss pays minimum wage at a construction and complains that no one wants to work.
@user-wt7bq5jo3l
@user-wt7bq5jo3l 15 дней назад
But the question also is whether they will pay more. Will the business still be profitable? And if they increase the price of their product to pay more to the workers, will their product remain competitive in the world market?
@phillipsiebold8351
@phillipsiebold8351 15 дней назад
@@user-wt7bq5jo3l If the business is that marginal, is it even worth carrying it on?
@Breadbored.
@Breadbored. 15 дней назад
@@user-wt7bq5jo3l If they need subsidies for minimum wage employees and we think it's worth keeping the company afloat, then subsidies should be offered for anybody they hire rather than an incentive to hire specifically foreign workers.
@chion918
@chion918 15 дней назад
it is no wonder why young and skilled Canadian are leaving this horrible place. i don't blame them.
@gsin311
@gsin311 15 дней назад
Canada can be so much better but leaders like Trudeau has morally and financially bankrupt this country. I wish I cud leave.
@jeezumcrow1007
@jeezumcrow1007 15 дней назад
You can go too then
@adamshehata6466
@adamshehata6466 15 дней назад
@@jeezumcrow1007 trust me we're all on the way out. This place is awful, controled, our data is regularly breached, and our tax scheme is a joke...
@jazw4649
@jazw4649 15 дней назад
Canada is in a race to the bottom
@dizzyb111
@dizzyb111 15 дней назад
Young and skilled Canadians are picking crops? What a dunce. Mark my words, the tfw program will once again be expanded when there are gaping labor shortages. By then Trudeau won't be there to put the blame on.
@markhanson8912
@markhanson8912 14 дней назад
They are cutting back because Canadians are fed up with the bullshit
@NashDr
@NashDr 12 дней назад
too late, last few years, most Canadians chose to rely on free money over building real job security and experience
@kyayhmonwin9618
@kyayhmonwin9618 14 дней назад
I don’t feel like I am living in Canada anymore. It just feels like I am in one of the south Asian countries 🤷🏻‍♀️
@sesha03
@sesha03 10 дней назад
Good, get used to it cause we’re here
@CarlosMartinez-ie8se
@CarlosMartinez-ie8se 15 дней назад
we are full of Punjabis.
@johnhess9443
@johnhess9443 15 дней назад
​@@aenamabagwell sex assault is sky rocketing in Canada right now
@itztechshowcase
@itztechshowcase 14 дней назад
Stop scapegoating a group of hardworking and good people. Be a part of the solution and not the blaming.
@johnhess9443
@johnhess9443 14 дней назад
@@itztechshowcase They can work as hard as the rest of us, that's great.. but there's too many people in this country and the govt keeps bringing people in by the boatload. They shouldn't be here. Our cost of living is sky rocketing because of this greed and incompetence.
@itztechshowcase
@itztechshowcase 14 дней назад
@@johnhess9443 True our gov't has screwed up as well. Immigration numbers need to come down 4 sure.
@johnhess9443
@johnhess9443 14 дней назад
@itztechshowcase I agree, but people are angry, and they have a right to be. The media deflects from the actual culprits, our failed govt, and people focus their very legitimate anger at people just trying to find somewhere better. It's not right, but it's happening to all groups right now. We're being divided, exploited, lied to, manipulated, and pitted against each other so we don't focus on the real enemy. It's working very very well, as you can see. Someday, I may escape Canada, immigrate somewhere else, and be hated because people like me are destroying their way of life.. and I'll understand it, because the same happened to me and my country.
@prabhdeepdhahan1147
@prabhdeepdhahan1147 14 дней назад
There should be no temporary forgien worker program.
@Ramiro-Agarra-Luquivenga
@Ramiro-Agarra-Luquivenga 10 дней назад
It should be only for agriculture.
@VikingMale
@VikingMale 15 дней назад
Because we never needed them.
@pamelamorrisonn
@pamelamorrisonn 13 дней назад
Exactly what I said out loud..
@TipTWhip
@TipTWhip 14 дней назад
Tim Horton's is a lousy corporate citizen. And their food used to be good, with good quality ingredients, but now it's just garbage.
@LUCKO2022
@LUCKO2022 11 дней назад
That is because they got bought by Burger King and all the care about is making as much money and paying slave labor wages.
@luke2806
@luke2806 10 дней назад
when they stopped making coffee cake that was the first sign. they switched to premade frozen crud that you toss in a quick oven.
@jeffhaskins6889
@jeffhaskins6889 10 дней назад
@@TipTWhip they hide their garbage bins so you have to take the garbage. They are even too cheap to pay for garbage disposal!
@BowtieJDP
@BowtieJDP 8 дней назад
And most of their employees are slaves.
@user-dy3em5ez4u
@user-dy3em5ez4u 15 дней назад
Who wants to eat fast food anymore? I for one will never eat out again. Have you seen the hygiene happen at Timmies. So gross.
@Willowdale494
@Willowdale494 15 дней назад
In the past 2 years went to McDonald's twice because we were in a hurry. Got sick both times...reported restaurants to Public Health.
@jazw4649
@jazw4649 15 дней назад
I paid $17 for just a veggie burger and no fries at Lick's booth at the CNE lol
@polishtheday
@polishtheday 14 дней назад
If we all went on fast food and overly-processed food boycotts several problems would be solved at once.
@polishtheday
@polishtheday 14 дней назад
@@Willowdale494This may be just a normal reaction if you don’t eat fast food regularly. Once you’re on a diet of real food, your body will revolt.
@Willowdale494
@Willowdale494 14 дней назад
@@polishtheday Makes sense!
@ScotchiGIS
@ScotchiGIS 15 дней назад
Temporary means temporary. When did the definition change?
@daleweiss9507
@daleweiss9507 12 дней назад
When men started having babies.😉
@jazw4649
@jazw4649 12 дней назад
@@daleweiss9507 lol
@carlawestlund4429
@carlawestlund4429 10 дней назад
@@ScotchiGIS thank you it hasnt
@ShatteredCiv
@ShatteredCiv 15 дней назад
This guy back-peddling is the most hilarious thing I have seen in a LONG while. I can't wait to get a job again in my field!
@Massflavour
@Massflavour 15 дней назад
because it's election time
@timmotuz5919
@timmotuz5919 15 дней назад
In Manitoba Canada, a trucking firm started in approx 2000 , and brought in under government sponsorship, migrant workers, this killed the trucking industry with lower wages. And my old work sponsored same migrant workers as the business wanted to pay less for labour.
@josielondon2089
@josielondon2089 13 дней назад
Too many immigrants...because of this we have struggled with lack of housing...lack of jobs....our health system is overwhelmed...losing doctors nurses because they been overworked...we cannot keep up..that's why we must cut back..this has to slow down...OUR ECONOMY NEEDS TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR OWN FIRST
@thedoingwell
@thedoingwell 12 дней назад
They also bought in 1 Million Ukrainians that screwed up the quota. East Asians are also good at manipulating the loop holes and flooding in.
@carlawestlund4429
@carlawestlund4429 10 дней назад
@@josielondon2089 this government is failing its citizens... traders...we lower our standards to that if the countries where this same immigrants come from .ahhh I say no stop now
@wlm7434
@wlm7434 14 дней назад
There are more foreign workers in canada than there are unemployed Canadians total. We never had all these problems now haunting Canadians before we started mass importing our own ethnic replacements.
@jomo4435
@jomo4435 14 дней назад
2 minute memories people have
@proudlycanadian3581
@proudlycanadian3581 15 дней назад
We never needed them that’s why we have a problems, getting decent jobs, having extra capacity in our health care system and housing. Guess what we didn’t have the capacity in health care and now Canadians are waiting for what “they paid for”
@jomo4435
@jomo4435 14 дней назад
Canadians sold out the country for cheap foreign goods that could not be affordable to be produced in Canada.....reap what we sow....lmao
@johncros2281
@johncros2281 15 дней назад
International students should not be given open work permits most of their spouses get full time jobs that takes from Canadian students and citizens. They have 😮money to spend rich students.
@WildFang39
@WildFang39 14 дней назад
Me, my mom,dad and my grandpa are all canaidan born citizens. I decided to work security and every single scedulung, supervisory, teamlead postion is taken by non canadian citizens who are trying to get their PR. Like i respect the hussle but like what its doing is setting a standard that security guards are willing to work 12 hours with no benefits or raise for min wage since these guys arent here for growth they just here for the PR. And no I am not white elitist, my dads side is from Pakistan and I'm Muslim who prays 5 times a day and hasn't missed jummah once in my life. For those saying this is some racist movement it isn't. It's bringing unnecessary people here to do nothing.
@mbergamin16
@mbergamin16 13 дней назад
🫡🍻
@thedoingwell
@thedoingwell 12 дней назад
1 Million Ukrainians were also bought in
@burrybondz225
@burrybondz225 11 дней назад
​@@thedoingwelldoes that change anything about his point?
@littlesnake7318
@littlesnake7318 7 дней назад
I work in security too. My company has been taken over by TFW's and "international students" I have been slowly elbowed out and hours significantly reduced. Right now I have no work. My company has also lost a ton of contracts by people not taking the job seriously, escalating incidences, language barriers and hiring people without their certification and licence. Now I'm lost and in limbo trying to figure out what I'm going to do with myself. I will have to move back in with my mother while I do distance education and figure out something else. Cause I have no work to keep up with living on my own. Since after covid there has been a massive flux of migrants I (and co-workers) have been displaced within my company and the security industry. It's insane that I have to compete internationally just to have a job and a place to live. We don't need TFW's for the security industry. This makes no sense.
@WildFang39
@WildFang39 6 дней назад
@@burrybondz225 I'd say get em out too
@user-eh1vp3ev3c
@user-eh1vp3ev3c 15 дней назад
Yeah, just like the local alcoholic is "cutting back"... The only difference is the local drunk can occasionally speak some coherent english!
@priuss6109
@priuss6109 12 дней назад
I quit drinking......... this morning! 😂
@user-sb3is1bk6h
@user-sb3is1bk6h 15 дней назад
Maybe a lot better off without any foreign workers in our country
@NashDr
@NashDr 12 дней назад
maybe yes, maybe not
@jonathangan1987
@jonathangan1987 15 дней назад
It's not fair that you sir, Mr. PM still running this country to the ground. PLEASE STEP DOWN.
@Thetablettalks
@Thetablettalks 15 дней назад
Hear hear!
@tehabnorm
@tehabnorm 15 дней назад
He will push the agenda until the next one comes in to move to the next phase .
@wilfdarr
@wilfdarr 15 дней назад
No no, please, please stay on until the next election so we get a majority government!
@EdLappa
@EdLappa 15 дней назад
Why does Canada have to explain ? Just do it.
@charlesburns7391
@charlesburns7391 11 дней назад
The only reason these people are here is to give Justin more voters
@carolinesecord5250
@carolinesecord5250 15 дней назад
Young Canadians do blame Trudeau for failing to ensure economic opportunities for them given the high numbers of immigration. Trudeau will lose the election because of it. I keep trying to educate my grandchildren, but they do know that Trudeau initiated this. Many are choosing Conservative representation in future elections. I am very disappointed.
@NashDr
@NashDr 12 дней назад
go out and make it... stop relying on Daddy BS government, sure; last 3 years was a proof most people chose UBI slavery to hard earned career building work and experience; it's indoctrinated in our schooling system
@bobbraveman9038
@bobbraveman9038 15 дней назад
Initiating that policy in 2022 was stupid. This cabinet group of looney tunes
@thedoingwell
@thedoingwell 12 дней назад
That becomes a problem when you have a finance minister who major's in Russian literature, running the finance department 😂
@DiuLayLoMo24
@DiuLayLoMo24 13 дней назад
Look what happened in Brampton, On and Surrey, BC. That should be enough of a lesson. We can no longer go to the beach and let our kids dig in the sand or drive on the roads or walk in public without them bumping or walking into your space on purpose.
@PlaguedByEarth
@PlaguedByEarth 15 дней назад
This is like if an animal hoarder said that she had a problem, got rid of one of her fifty cats, then bought three more.
@torsionbyrne718
@torsionbyrne718 14 дней назад
To be clear the TFW program was never needed. The reality is people can't work at jobs that don't provide a living wage. Many large corporation found a loophole - get foreign workers who are destitute and desperate to come into the country, resulting in the replacement of young Canadians who want a decent wage. I know a lot of white-collar foreign workers as well who came here with a steady stream of money from their country because their families have properties generating additional money for them. They too don't mind working for a lower than average wage as they have secondary residual income. The high volume immigration over the last 10 years is exacerbating the health care crisis, its been a significant contributor to the housing crisis, and its definitely displacing young Canadian workers who's parents, and grandparents have worked and contributed to the foundations of Canada and its economy. It is also suppressing wage growth in a lot of skilled labor markets as well. Most corporations treat employees as commodities. Never forget Galen Weston's comment that his company has an obligation to maximize profit for its shareholders. He didn't state a healthy return, he didn't state continually increasing, he stated maximize, which means they and other large corporations will use any means possible which is legal but not necessarily moral to squeeze as much out of the people, by paying as little as possible for labor and charging as much as possible for product and services to maximize those returns to shareholders. The median family income in Canada after taxes is 73K (6K per month), the average house price in Canada is 670K (4.5k monthly mortgage for 20 year). Average Canadian families are definitely not the ones buying homes in Canada any more. The Canadian government's primary responsibility is to create an environment in which Canadians can thrive and prosper - they have consistently failed to do this over the last 9 years.
@NashDr
@NashDr 12 дней назад
jibs that Canadians don't want.... instead rely free money UBI, mental health BS yo earn easy $; too late to mend... it's been years of lazy Gov reliance with youth unfortunately
@jazw4649
@jazw4649 15 дней назад
Canada needs to outlaw rent-a-human labour. It's not just foreign workers in the "gig" economy in Canada but many Canadians get sucked into it as well. Once you get into a temporary position it's hard to get out. Employers dangle the carrot of "we will give you full time work once you prove yourself worthy" but they never actually intend to hire. Employers in my experience have also asked me to do things like remove safety devices from machines in order to work faster. They expect you to work through breaks and do more than the full time force just to keep the temporary job because employers know they have you in a trapped position. I'm about fed up and ready to leave this country.
@elizabethtencer7950
@elizabethtencer7950 12 дней назад
Temporary workers don't have to be low skill workers. In my previous electronic company I worked 12 hours a day but was paid for 8. But the worst was the contempt and arogance displayed by management towards temporary employees. Particularly the director (a woman) used to be late almost always for our daily1 to 1 mtgs at least 1 hour late often more. But work had to be done. I can't imagine how replaceable low skill workers can suffer from psychopathic employers if they are unlucky. The idea of temporary employment should be strickly regulated and basically limited to seasonal work.
@dannydaye9449
@dannydaye9449 12 дней назад
The Conservatives plan on tripling down on this policy. Exploiting "cheap" labour is LITERALLY the playbook Millionaires and Billionaires have followed since antiquity.
@kr6370
@kr6370 15 дней назад
Deport current temp workers
@MrBajwa007
@MrBajwa007 9 дней назад
Cancel all the work permits and no more work permits. We Canadian are out of jobs
@bubbajay1934
@bubbajay1934 14 дней назад
Can we get a list of who is lobbying for TFWs in Ottawa? That should be public information right? The public has the right to know which large corporations are obviously pushing to suppress wages.
@thedoingwell
@thedoingwell 12 дней назад
You are also forgetting the 1 Million Ukrainians that were brought in lobbied by the Ukrainian National Congress and given pr status
@NashDr
@NashDr 12 дней назад
serious? wages and minimum wage have increased 50% last 2 years; that's insane for us small business, we hardly receive resumes from locals; they do not want dirty cleaning labour work
@bubbajay1934
@bubbajay1934 12 дней назад
@@NashDr If a business cannot operate by offering a living wage that corresponds to the area they are operating in, then you are: (A) not a successful business, maybe try another vocation (B) open your business in the 3rd world country that these workers come from. Then your wage will equate to the standard of living for the area. If you operate in Canada, then offer a wage that is livable for a person also living in Canada. We do not want slave labour or suppressed wages here. Thanks.
@NashDr
@NashDr 11 дней назад
@@bubbajay1934 all theories and feelings you're sharing; your opinion is your opinion and that's what we do for over 15 years in business successfully in the most expensive urban metros in Canada., more than 35 staff, at least 10 full time, 10 years + working with us; so whose voice should be heard? theories/ feelings, or people doing it with hard work daily for years contributing to employment and paying a hefty price to energise the real economy; not fake government overspending our tax dollars leaving us all in debts???
@teresachambers8121
@teresachambers8121 15 дней назад
We can't house them all at the expense of our own citizens. Plus, it's a big strain on our health care system, because they haven't paid into it. Also, I don't want my taxes supporting them.
@kerry7967
@kerry7967 15 дней назад
Damage is done but conservatives won't fix this because they cater to big corps and big corps with shareholders are the ones that benefit from these low wage workers. Remember it was employers that complained about lack of workers in the first place and the Libs designed this program for them.
@Blueskies1180
@Blueskies1180 15 дней назад
Trudumb…. We DIDN’T “NEED” temporary foreign workers years AGO!! This is ALL YOUR FAULT! The labour market hasn’t changed because of other factors, it’s changed because Trudope ruined it for Canadians 9 years ago!
@Johnny-v5p
@Johnny-v5p 14 дней назад
The only reason to allow tefw is to drive wages down
@Johnny-v5p
@Johnny-v5p 14 дней назад
Supply and demand economics 101. This is an economic issue not a racial issue. Falsely inflated supply of labor and demand for housing causes low wages and unaffordable houses
@burrybondz225
@burrybondz225 11 дней назад
​@@Johnny-v5pwhy would it be a race issue when we get many ukrainians too?
@Johnny-v5p
@Johnny-v5p 11 дней назад
@@burrybondz225 it's not a race issue it may partly be a cultural issue. From my perspective it's primarily an economics issue. BTW I would be ok if the Ukrainians left too
@TheAmbex
@TheAmbex 15 дней назад
Calgary is 8.8%. Also, I call BS on the % of TFW in places. My wife is literally the only person born in Canada at her job.
@wyv3rn1
@wyv3rn1 13 дней назад
Lmao I'm in the same position as your wife
@priuss6109
@priuss6109 12 дней назад
​@@wyv3rn1same here. I'm the only one that speaks in English.
@candycatlara536
@candycatlara536 14 дней назад
Don’t be fooled by Trudeau. Vote him out.
@creepyloner1979
@creepyloner1979 13 дней назад
arrest him.
@Dholi1
@Dholi1 12 дней назад
And vote who in? The person who got elected party leader in the election that was influenced by China and India? Or the other party leader that supports high immigration and keeps supporting Trudeau? Seems like it's too late to elected a good leader since the party leaders all suck.
@timmotuz5919
@timmotuz5919 15 дней назад
Just like the other comments, it killed Canada. The fit is just not right. Throw out the new clothes and get back to the classic white t shirt and jeans
@Xhaka-p5n
@Xhaka-p5n 15 дней назад
This work force was was quite useful for corporations and small businesses financially however it was misused and created poor conditions for workers and extra burden on tax payers and government institutions.
@wilfdarr
@wilfdarr 15 дней назад
Another great moment in unintended consequences...
@ahdnaji
@ahdnaji 13 дней назад
Let's not forget that during COVID, no Canadian wanted to work in the service industry and relied on the comfort of CERB and CRB instead. This is what drove their numbers up. They put their health on the line to serve you your burrito. The temporary workers are not the issue. The lack of oversight is. Why did this program continue for as long as it did? Why was it not paused when unemployment numbers went up?
@thedoingwell
@thedoingwell 12 дней назад
They also bought in 1 Million Ukrainians 😅
@LiftingDonuts
@LiftingDonuts 12 дней назад
Cut back.. they need to STOP all. Canadians want to work, saying otherwise is just BS.
@maciejpieczula631
@maciejpieczula631 13 дней назад
In his book Right Here Right Now, former Prime Minister Stephen Harper wrote that one of his biggest regrets was not shutting down the TFW program.
@blankspace0000
@blankspace0000 15 дней назад
Business complaining about not finding canadian workers doesn't mean that there are no canadian workers. It means there are none who are willing to work for the wage they are offering. This is how competition works. Businesses are incentivize to a) offer the lowest possible prices in order to retain customers and b) generate maximum profit for their shareholders due to fiduciary responsibility. If you give them a way to save money on labour then they will absolutely take that option every time.
@NashDr
@NashDr 12 дней назад
mental health, UBI, free money, all this BS last few years made our youth lazy, super reliant; damage is done, too late
@lifeisgood6959
@lifeisgood6959 14 дней назад
We never needed them in the first place!!!
@NashDr
@NashDr 12 дней назад
we did, small business here
@brknglasses2734
@brknglasses2734 11 дней назад
I worked for the Tom Hortons in Haliburton Ontario. Not only are they abusing the hell out of this stupid program, but the workers too! They were getting a 15 min break for a 10 h shift! Not to mention that their are people Who live in Haliburton that need jobs!
@DK5TY
@DK5TY 14 дней назад
Unemployment rate is higher everyday and if canadians unemployment rate is around 7% why would we need more workers. International students shouldn't be able to work like most of the world. Only time an international student should be able to work if it's internship or coop in given filed of study. When there is high unemployment it allows companies to supress wages of workers while demand more efficiency with threats of termination. Look at all the ghost jobs on indeed and linkden. We need to cap how refugees are allow in the country per year because 500k is too much strain canadian resources for example our health care system.
@jomo4435
@jomo4435 14 дней назад
Society put an end to that Canada starting in the 80s with acceleration since 2004
@thedoingwell
@thedoingwell 12 дней назад
1 Million Ukrainians were also bought in with their families and that could easily be 2 million right there. They were also given $3000.00 a piece $700.00 for each child all lobbied by the Ukrainian National Congress. Backed by the finance minister who majored in Russian literature running the finance department 😅
@michellesantiago820
@michellesantiago820 12 дней назад
They should also cut back in medical to give way for citizens who had been struggling to fins jobs. This is the reason why we came here to Canada to begin with. I hate hearing, why didn't you the certification when you came here. Honestly, you chose the TFW instead of giving chance to citizens more. We worked hard too.
@andrewvanos2916
@andrewvanos2916 14 дней назад
Agriculture sector needs them in rural communities. Farm hands
@ClarkyMalarky
@ClarkyMalarky 15 дней назад
I understand the population decline we’re heading into with the baby boomers aging out and passing. But this wasn’t the answer to fix that.
@NashDr
@NashDr 12 дней назад
what is answer then? UBI slavery
@ClarkyMalarky
@ClarkyMalarky 12 дней назад
Slavery is a giant escalation hahah ? Generally when a population declines , so goes demand of products. Facts are nobody needs 40-80 shirts. Etc have less at a higher quality. Follow the Swiss model.
@John-fl3lp
@John-fl3lp 15 дней назад
What a mess!
@stevenscott1479
@stevenscott1479 14 дней назад
15:34 hit the nail right on the head here. If you cant run a business without paying staff next to nothing, then maybe you shouldnt be running a business
@Blutteufel
@Blutteufel 11 дней назад
It is disgusting that they are trying to make this look like a bad thing...
@Mochathesquishycat-ik3sm
@Mochathesquishycat-ik3sm 12 дней назад
Temporary foreign workers don't get well paid jobs, they get the lowest paid jobs, that a lot of Canadiens can't or won't do.
@NashDr
@NashDr 12 дней назад
true
@AcidFlash123
@AcidFlash123 12 дней назад
That is not true. Many tech companies and others can bring in "skilled" workers and replace Canadians doing those jobs for lower wages. Companies will not invest in training and apprenticeships when there is a pool of cheaper foreign labour that they can draw from.
@NashDr
@NashDr 11 дней назад
@@AcidFlash123 training time must be subsidized by government, as workers can leave a job anyyime so it's not fair for a business to train at cost of labour; no wonder companies leaning towards TFW; reality hurts but vocational training must be a dialogue between labour laws and companies; minimum wages forced by corrupt officials who talk a big game, at the expense of hard working small business, is unfair!
@AcidFlash123
@AcidFlash123 11 дней назад
@@NashDr What do you mean fair to business? They are your employees, you should pay to train them, not taxpayers. You are the one profiting off their labour, not us. And if you paid your employees enough with decent working conditions, then they would not leave for other jobs. This use of foreign slave labour has to be eliminated. You just want a docile, subservient workforce that you can abuse at will because they have no choice.
@NashDr
@NashDr 10 дней назад
This link below shows it's an election trick, point your fingers at evil authority who manipulate the common person and affect lives
@charlesrobb6912
@charlesrobb6912 15 дней назад
I know of no other country with a low wage urban temporary worker program.
@HepCatJack
@HepCatJack 12 дней назад
Doesn't mean there aren't any: United States, Germany, Australia, South Korea have such programs.
@ddicin7759
@ddicin7759 11 дней назад
Doesn't anyone remember Kenney, Conservative MP under Harper flooding the labour market with TFWs ? Both Parties want you struggle to find and retain any job you might happen to get. They want you to compete against the whole world's labour poole....while paying local, extortionate, service prices of well connected businesses.
@mrpiccolo6949
@mrpiccolo6949 12 дней назад
Because of elections, he just choose to listen to us Canadians now the elections are coming. Should've been done a long time ago.
@yeseniagallardo4143
@yeseniagallardo4143 14 дней назад
Why?because Canadian citizen not find jobs when applied only jobs for foreign workers. As a Canadian citizen im tired the send application nothing happened. Interviews after never answered and see around the city many people working even is not a Canadian or a permanent resident ,enough is enough. Canadian first
@coolhand6656
@coolhand6656 10 дней назад
The number of Indians immigrating to Canada has more than quadrupled from 32,828 in 2013 to 139,715 in 2023, an increase of 326 per cent. The damage has been done. Canada is caught in a “population trap” that only exists in third-world markets, according to National Bank Financial Inc. report, wherein the booming population of a country starts clashing with the limits of the infrastructural capability needed to absorb that population.
@Dam-a-fence
@Dam-a-fence 15 дней назад
Something close to a consensus on the agriculture side? Yeah, okay. Sure. People in Canada agree, they won't work that hard for that tiny paycheck. I'd call it a failure of mono-culture, but John Deer wouldn't like that, they have subscription services they need to be subscribed to.
@reekinronald6776
@reekinronald6776 15 дней назад
..and to the imported workers, it isn't a tiny paycheck. They send most of the money back home where the purchasing power for that money balloons to 5 or 10 times what it represents in Canada.
@jtk1141
@jtk1141 15 дней назад
The state of the job market in Canada is sad AF. I see so many "need 5 years experience", paying 60,000 on indeed. That salary with 5 years experience is just bonkers.
@screamoguy100
@screamoguy100 15 дней назад
I've seen the living conditions of temp foreign agricultural workers and those conditions are horrendous. 20 men living in an unheated barn, on cots with no running water or electricity, no bathroom just a portapotty and extension cords running from the main house to run a light bulb and maybe a refrigerator and a hotplate, its utterly disgusting how farmers treat these foreign workers and there is no way they would get a Canadian to live like that and accept the lowest wages in the country.
@Dam-a-fence
@Dam-a-fence 15 дней назад
Guys, It's bad for us and it's horrendous for them, it' what the UN said. I'm just adding my two cents, not that I can afford them. I'm sure doing this is putting me on some black list somewhere.
@nordette
@nordette 14 дней назад
Need to do something about the amount of international students as well and close the loop holes of making that a path to citizenship.
@edmondshum4116
@edmondshum4116 12 дней назад
Why? Because election time is near, that’s why.
@Johnny-v5p
@Johnny-v5p 14 дней назад
Im not sure how many people are aware but this program actually allows employers to hold the tefw passport and visa. This is too much power for any employer to have.
@davidng6250
@davidng6250 14 дней назад
It should be illegal
@datsme8986
@datsme8986 11 дней назад
The current labor situation in Canada highlights a critical intersection of economic and ethical concerns. The livelihoods of present and future generations are at risk due to the practices of certain corporations that employ individuals at wages below the minimum standard and utilize under-the-table arrangements for temporary foreign workers. This not only impacts the financial stability of these workers but also leads to significant remittance outflows, which can harm the national economy. The exploitation of these individuals by selfish employers and illegal recruiters raises serious moral questions, drawing parallels to modern-day slavery-a complex and troubling conundrum. 😤 #CanadiansFirst
@Pixelpunch3
@Pixelpunch3 10 дней назад
So companies couldn’t find workers, or they just weren’t paying enough?
@mstewie9718
@mstewie9718 11 часов назад
He quietly creates the problem, then loudly comes up with a solution and wants to take credit.
@the_wild_hunt1301
@the_wild_hunt1301 14 дней назад
Face the fact there are bigger things at play here.
@jomo4435
@jomo4435 14 дней назад
You talking business, Canadians and their cheap labour addiction....as Canadians cannot afford to support living wages and still have cheap services, fast food etc
@cortholiopezorama8879
@cortholiopezorama8879 13 дней назад
“ cheap services, fast food etc” Wtf is actually cheap in Canada? 😂
@AbdulKhan-di4ei
@AbdulKhan-di4ei 14 дней назад
Cause this has caused Canadians to unable to find a job. And now Canadians can't find a job
@hacheyg
@hacheyg 12 дней назад
They are needing jobs for the 1.3 million Ukrainian refugees
@jacquidawn1
@jacquidawn1 13 дней назад
Too bad the damage has been done. These people do really poor work btw.
@adamshehata6466
@adamshehata6466 15 дней назад
so, now "its not fair" its been going on forever... and those TFWs are all settled in now. Damage is done homie... Step down and go live on an island.
@Treeflat
@Treeflat 12 дней назад
This has to include any "New Canadians" that have arrived here in the last decade. Canada can only comfortably sustain 30 million people.
@findingharmony9722
@findingharmony9722 13 дней назад
No jobs for teenagers affects the growth of our economy. I had a job in high school and even in elementary school. Working makes teenagers stronger. Children have been having low grades in school. These kids are our future politicians. Other countries in the world do not have high immigration rates.
@MrBajwa007
@MrBajwa007 9 дней назад
I know by name many trucking companies they are selling LMIA . I live in Regina if any immigration authorities want to know about this contact me . I think immigration authorities in Saskatchewan they are working with these trucking companies for selling LMIA .
@basse9914
@basse9914 12 дней назад
Nothing will change unless politicians are scared of their lives
@kellyevans3254
@kellyevans3254 13 дней назад
Cutting back? We should be getting rid of the ones we currently have. Canada is for the Canadians, we can offer handouts once we get our own country in order.
@thedoingwell
@thedoingwell 12 дней назад
What everybody is forgetting or not mentioning is the 1 Million Ukrainians that were brought into the country plus their children. That, in addition to temporary workers that were planned has disrupted the quota. Talk about jumping the queue, they got permanent residency in the shortest time ever. Given $3000.00 each $700.00 for each child.
@eric3711
@eric3711 10 дней назад
thank you!!! Get them OUT!!!!!!
@servethesongs
@servethesongs 10 дней назад
The blatnt Sikh only trucking industry needs to be regulated. "these people' only hire their own, and nothing is being done about it out of the constant fear of being called a racist for actually standing up for YOUR RIGHTS
@TheMightyOdin
@TheMightyOdin 11 дней назад
There are so many first initial “J” last name “Singh’s” at my work that the computer system can’t handle it.
@frmaha
@frmaha 15 дней назад
The agricultural stream is the only reason farms are still operating in Canada. I realize the cuts are mostly in other areas, but this will nevertheless still affect it. The barrier to entry to farming is just so high unless you inherit a farm. Nobody is entering the industry so Canadian farmers cannot find people to work on their farms as labourers. Canadians used to do it to gain experience with the goal of eventually owning and operating their own farm. Many Canadians will sooner choose be unemployed than work on a farm.
@windatar6351
@windatar6351 15 дней назад
As someone that worked and grew up on a farm the two biggest hassles to working on a farm is housing in the area of it and transportation to farm work. Often farms require people to own vehicles to get there and gas+insurance and car payments are astronomically high. Doubled with no cheap housing in these areas. If the farm job you have doesn't have a house or rooms on said farm then your out of luck. And when they do that means your room and board is connected to your job which means farm work if you live on the farm is close to indentured servatude. It's a breeding ground for power abuse by the boss. If owning a car and gas was cheap and housing was affordable you would see a massive rebound for people willing to work on farms if the pay was decent. Just like if housing/food/transportation is cheap you get higher birthrates. When housing/food/transportation are all expensive you get declining birthrates. People start families when they can afford to, if your birthrate is falling its because the country has failed to people.
@frmaha
@frmaha 15 дней назад
@@windatar6351 yeah all of this also represents huge hurdles. However, I don’t think making it harder to get temporary foreign workers is the policy answer…that will just make farmers either have to do it alone (which is unsafe, not to mention the burnout) or close their farms… because without the support and infrastructure encourage local workers to work on farms, there is no one to replace them. I live in an agricultural community and every farmer I know would much prefer to not have to do all the paperwork and scheduling around 8 month on/ 3 month off visas it requires to hire a TFW if they had any local option. I wish the government would focus on policy that removes the need for the TFW program rather than put the burden on small business owners.
@windatar6351
@windatar6351 15 дней назад
@@frmaha No one wants to do the paper work, but like I said I grew up and worked on a farm. Farms do make good money, so they can afford to increase their pay to attract better workers. If they still can't then they can apply for loans to build more housing on their properties for workers to live in, they do this for dairy farm workers. Since cows need to be milked twice a day so most workers are living on the property. TFW's should be banned full stop. If a company or business even a farm if they cannot grow without slave labour then I'm sorry but they don't have a right to slave wages or slave conditions. There are plenty of options, and the way forward will be hard or costly but it isn't impossible. They need to pull themselves up by the bootstraps. For example, farmers could start taking part in their local highschool's to pitch farm work, they could offer scholarships a lot of farmers are ex trades people they could take some students on and teach and ply them their trades in wood working or carpentry or husbandry. "They need TFW's because no one wants to do these jobs." If you pay, offer benefits, or invest in your workers I promise you 100% that they can find workers. Farm owners just don't want to. They would rather do paper work and beg the government to let them off shore the part of scamming third worlders to come to them to work for pennies on the dollar. I know, I grew up in the environment. Farm owners deserve the small violin treatment. Theres a reason most farmers live in mansions on their property.
@frmaha
@frmaha 15 дней назад
@@windatar6351 not sure where you lived and how long it’s been since you’ve worked/grew up in farming, but most farmers in my community right now are not living in mansions. Nor are they treating their temporary foreign workers like slaves. The families I’m close to all have separate housing for their staff and pay them a good wage. No doubt abuses happen at some farms and I’m not naive enough to assume it doesn’t happen in my community, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t incredibly difficult to find local labour, even if you do everything right. Edit to add: I work at a high school in a rural community and your solution of “pitching farm work” is so out of touch. That’s not how schools work. The kids aren’t interested. Just ply the woodworking trade? Are farmers all woodworkers now?
@windatar6351
@windatar6351 15 дней назад
@@frmaha It's been over 20 years now for me personally. Worked and grew up on dairy farms with a couple berrie and poultry farms. Each one had a mansion on their lot with a row of houses for people to live and work on. I sometimes go past my old houses I lived in, the farms are still there so are the mansions. Also why would it be out of touch? Have any farmers tried? See this is the type of thinking people just don't understand, Highschool kids don't understand how it is after highschool. Trades and farm work have 0 presence inside of schools. It's all about "seeking higher education." And look how that's going? People with massive 100k debts working at Starbucks because there isn't jobs. Also I have no idea what your talking about, but the farms I've worked on generally the owners or workers have a pretty good understanding of several trades. Especially if they work on their own equipment, fixing tractors requires some mechanical knowledge. I have no idea about the farms you've seen, but most of them have shops, most of them have areas for wood working. They need it to make repairs to the barns, lofts, fences, silos. It's not the "no on is interested in it." It's that farmers have no idea how or want to put in the effort in connecting with their community. It's a damn shame and they can only blame themselves. I mean, farmers don't even go to job exbo's or try and squeeze into a trades show even though formwork is a trade.
@nazimL1011
@nazimL1011 13 дней назад
It was about time. The industry keeps crying for more workers, we have enough workers here, people are just no willing to work for the same wages offered 10 years ago.
@HermaleeHarrow
@HermaleeHarrow 13 часов назад
WHY PEOPLE ARE BEHAVING LIKE CANADA IS THERE FINAL RESTING PLACE...WHY CANT THEY REPENT OF THERE SINS AND TRESPASSES AND SERVE GOD AND LET GOD HAVE HIS WAYS IN OUR LIFE..WE COME INTO THIS WORLD WITH NOTHING AND WE HEADING BACK HOME WITH NOTHING..SO LET US ALL LIVE GOOD WOTH OUR BROTHER AND SISTERS AND LIVE AS ONE.....
@user-ti1rp4of4m
@user-ti1rp4of4m 10 дней назад
Cut 100%
@VictorHaley-gg7tt
@VictorHaley-gg7tt 11 дней назад
Big question: WHO WAS IN THESE JOBS PREVIOUSLY? IT SEEMS LIKE THESE JOBS WERE CREATED NOT REQUIRED? WHY NOT NEW COMERS FINDING THESE JOBS IF THEY NEEDED TO BE FILLED? ALSO, WE WILL LOVE TO KNOW WHO THE EMPLOYERS ARE;
@DorisDay-b8l
@DorisDay-b8l 14 дней назад
Oh thank god but I really think all temporary workers should be not just cut back , but cut out because they stesl everyone else's jobs ! Likewise sent back immediately to where they came from with no option of returning due to their illegsl entry in the firdt place !
@kevinnguyen4922
@kevinnguyen4922 12 дней назад
Who should I report to the people who work illegal and fraud marriage in this country. I know that many owners still hiring visa visitors and illegal immigrants
@ghettocowboy993
@ghettocowboy993 10 дней назад
Cause they have a different door for them to come ...
@gunsnrosesforever100
@gunsnrosesforever100 15 дней назад
Probably cause canada has become the second Africa/ middle east
@thedoingwell
@thedoingwell 12 дней назад
How about the 1 Million Ukrainians that were brought in and given $3000.00 a piece $700.00 per child, pr granted.
@gunsnrosesforever100
@gunsnrosesforever100 12 дней назад
@thedoingwell I'd rather help put Ukrainians, we've been helping Africa for well over 20 years. At some point, we have to call it quits. Plus, Ukrainians are extremely skilled in farming and metal work
@jimmyarbutus2555
@jimmyarbutus2555 12 дней назад
I don't see the problem with temporary workers. I am from the Maritime. Everyone I know is a temporary worker with Pogey making up the rest of their available income. This is normal. What could the problem be? Don't tell me they're cutting down on Pogey.
@Theiron2142
@Theiron2142 12 дней назад
The problem is being replaced in your country of origin by another culture that is not your own culture, a culture that does not want to breed with us, but instead stays in isolated family units growing the strength of there own people off the backs of our ancestors who founded this country, this country was made great by the French, the English, and the aboriginals.
@mikeszabo9222
@mikeszabo9222 13 дней назад
Goodbye, Canada! It's only going to get worse. We all need to fight and vote when its time or say goodbye to Canada as we knew it.
@HylianSoldier64
@HylianSoldier64 10 дней назад
Because there's a surplus of permanent foreign workers.
@beautanner8409
@beautanner8409 12 дней назад
What I'm detecting from the comments - The Globe should consider talking about the hitherto taboo component of social cohesion, and the damage that the current immigration policy is doing to that. It seems there's a lot of interest from the public about it.
@bunnyhelper7791
@bunnyhelper7791 14 дней назад
It’s like telling us beavis and butthead over dumb and dumber 😂
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