Why Canadian Lottery Winners Must Answer a Math Question 

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It equals an average HAI video...

that equals youtube comments section or the average hai video

maybe make a video about planes

She did not deserve the win because she is so stupid.

I don't even understand how she came to that number.

@@cabrondemente1 An ant took a nap at 5.

I know they’re different skills and all but how’s she gonna use that gps i dont see how she learned to drive

@@alvarorey9308 lmao that is wrong. its 80.

It's the law's fault for having the loophole in the first place. There's no such thing as a 'spirit' of a law.

@@SupLuiKir The spirit of the law is the entire basis of the Common Law legal system (which we use in almost all English-speaking countries). The law sets out the general idea ("spirit") of the rule, and then all the details are fleshed out in court cases which set precedents for future interpretations of the law. That's why Sam kept giving examples of court cases which determined what was and was not considered 'skill-testing'.

In Nordic countries it's the opposite. Laws are written loosely(compared to USA for an example) and can be interpreted broadly, so the judge is expected to use common sense in the verdicts. Benefit of a system like this is that people are much less likely to get fucked over by some technicality, and the downside is that if the judge is corrupt/asshole, he/she can drop the hammer on you much worse. But as Nordic countries have very little corruption and the maximum possible sentences are quite mild, this usually isn't a problem. It does lead to highly inconsistent verdicts from very similar crimes, though. In general it's rare for someone to get absolutely destroyed by a flawed trial, but it's more common for an evildoer get away with very little punishment.

@@DruidEnjoyer I think this is a pretty good summation. I'd just add that another reason to write laws loosely is because it's very arrogant of a legislator to assume that they can cover every single eventuality. But if there is a situation where the letter of the law definitely says one thing, even against its spirit, you have to follow the letter. The spirit is only when there is room for interpretation or ambiguity.

@@DruidEnjoyer In general that is how things are written in common law systems too, those technicalities you speak of are generally where the state seeks to benefit from human rights abuses and such. That is to say violations of the bill of rights in the US or magna carter and later legislation along that same vein including for example the human rights act in the UK. This underlying principle that the state may not benefit from violating it's citizens rights is also where the fruit of the poisonous tree doctrine comes in, basically this means if the police decide it would be a good idea to beat a confession out of a suspect and in that confession is the one and only piece of information in the investigation that led to the discovery of some other evidence that evidence is also tainted. This latter one is much weaker though they can get it back in if they can find a link to it post hoc through legitimate investigation that doesn't involve torture or any similar abuses but the courts do tend to be rather flexible on this you may get away with later canvassing for witnesses in the area near where the evidence was found for example despite there being a shaky to non existent connection to that area otherwise though this will generally be more likely if they can get away with expanding the radius of an area they already canvassed a little and catch it in that. Kinda tricky in that case though I guess after all no way to change the past and remove the prior knowledge of the information and expanding a search radius would otherwise be a reasonable course of action so...

Ignorance will be the death of the human race!

@@SquirrelKnight50 No. Apathy will.

@@arcaneminded Why not both apathy AND ignorance? Nobody said it had to be one or the other.

It's 52 right?

@@theswatteam1909 yeah, I got 52 as well

9+10 kid would do well in Canada

Do they even ask it? I've never been asked a math question for a free donut or coffee

​@@jayit6851 No, or I've never been asked. They probably do with more expensive prizes, but the free coffee or donut or whatever, no.

Oh, I see. Only the smart kids are allowed to be fat and get free doughnuts

Well, is it You win by doing a test of skill, or successfully doing a test of skill.

I live in a country where I don't have to do either, so... Eh. ;p

No one is more triggered than Canadians. Video was just a factual commentary and you bust in REEEEE no taxes were good right? Someone tell me we're good

@@ChristopherTJacob How did you read that comment, and conclude that they were triggered in the slightest?

@@ChristopherTJacob how was the comment complaining exactly?

@Christopher Jacob talk about being triggered

Scootaloo 009 bodmas

@@thesabre8458 nope

@@thesabre8458 You don't even need bodmas. If you just do it from left to right, you should get the right answer.

@@thesabre8458 the question is 8 x 6 - 5 + 9 you do not need bodmas

Dust My Broom nvm its supposed to be bdmas

well how often does shooting a turkey at 50 yards with a rifle come up in day to day business, but division that might happen..... math is a skill ok.

How did that turkey get its' wings on a rifle?

It's the odds of me shooting a turkey with a rifle from 100 yards.

"I can shoot a turkey from 8*6-5+9 yards away." "How many yards is that?" "51" "No, it's not. How many is it really?" "51" "Congratulations, you got the job."

@@KnuckleHunkybuck umm.... that would be 8*8->46, 9-5->4, 48+4 = 52. (corrected)

especially since the answer was 52 like... she got confused with the addition or subtraction or something and just... refused to check?

Well she still got the prize xD

If you're that stupid you shouldn't get the prize

@@_yellow agreed

Nik Saunders and you sir, shouldn’t get the money aswell

Wow that’s a low blow

We don’t need to pay taxes here in the UK!

@@jamiewade Oi, got a loicence for that lottery ticket m8?

No tax or maths here in Aus

We pay taxes when we play.

God as a Canadian I love that saying

What? I'm Canadian and I'm pretty sure the top combo is way more accurate than the bottom one...

Why would you want a British culture in the first place

reaperexpress then you are deluded

Sebastian Elytron well French industry workers have rights at least

And they don't let you go back to questions like you can in person.

s-someone w-wet?

@@sourfar "who" is what I imagine they meant. Autocorrect?

dry yourself off, you're gonna short circuit your keyboard.

The only online test I took was Chem and that was such a joke

We don't care.

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Wow it looks so small

wow, I sure hope someone got fired for THAT blunder!

Storyblocks might not have had a picture of the Ontario high court of justice.

Congrats, sucks for the guy who answered wrong lol there goes 2000

@@user-tr2dh4xx6u Skill issue

"I'm pretty sure I'm right here Tim"

It actually sort of pisses me off, like WTF you submitted a wrong answer they told you you were wrong, but rather then idk checking your math you submit the same fucking answer a second time. And then you have the gall to complain about failing a SIMPLE fucking math problem.

@@speedy01247 We're closely tied to American culture and politics to the point that the stubbornness rubs off in the weirdest ways.

I did the math in several orders and tried to find the mistake she made and I still can't seem to figure out she ended up with "51" as the result

@@sarah867 apperently it said in the article she had a learning disability... I was first thinking "how could you get 51??" but now I feel bad

cAnt relate lol

ok

I'm 21 and I couldn't answer the question because I forgot how to do long division and after looking at 2 websites I still couldn't figure it out.

I managed to solve it in my head at 5 am in the morning. So proud, not gonna lie.

@@whaddyamean99 ÷÷÷÷

karen 100

I mean the answer was close.

I thought she had a disability, according to the video?

I'm actually wondering why didn't Tim Horton's get closed up by the Canadian government since what they did was illegal. The woman did not pass the test of skill, which means that giving her the prize means she won it purely by chance, which as we learned is illegal in Canada, so bu giving her the prize after she didn't give the correct answer, Tim Horton's broke the law.

Eh about what you would expect with someone who plays the lottery

Are you talking about the person who got the math question wrong if so someone that stupid does not deserve anything

Zack Snelgrove To be fair, it does say she has a learning disability in the article.

@@wintrwunderland She should not be gambling then. Horton was right to refuse.

@@1701spacecadet How does having a learning disability disqualify a person from legal competition? It's not gambling. She ordered the coffee fair and square. Unless it is specifically written in the rules that people who have learning disabilities are not elligable.

@@matthewmartin7639 It DOES say that it is a game of skill. it’s illegal for it not to be game of skill. (most companies use simple math)\

Do I look like I know what a HEIF is? I just want to submit a picture of my god dang test answers.

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Depends. My dad won lotto max and had to provide a skill test. This was in the early 2000's.

Thank god cause I have severe dyscalculia

@@sweetascandyxoxo I don’t think they have a question. It’s only sweepstakes winners. And they are really simple like 2+2=

@CbassPlaysGames That only applies NOW; I had a 6/49 win of a couple hundred bucks back in the '90s, and to cash the ticket at the store, I was required to fill out the rota form on the back of the ticket: Name, Address, Tel., and the answer to a simple four-function 'skill-testing question'. If you look at the back of the tickets now? It's just the first three items; not sure when it got dropped (at least after the early 00's according to @breezymark3926 - thanks 👍) I'd be willing to bet (heh) that this change happened after the lottery corporations talked to the CCB and changed the laws...which only makes sense because they ARE government-operated lotteries, after all. Fun Bonus Fact: the CCB's condition about requiring the 'skill-testing question' is why so many US giveaways and sweepstakes etc. have to restrict their scope to "only open to US Residents", because getting people to do basic single-digit math to claim a prize is unreasonable down there, apparently.

​@@sweetascandyxoxomine isn't severe but suffer from the same (along with ADHD). I don't understand how answering a skill testing question has anything to do with lawfully winning a prize, no matter what it is. So if someone with LDs is unable to answer a question, they are deemed too "stupid" to claim a prize they've essentially already won? That's not fair. On the plus side, I am happy we don't have to pay the crazy amount to taxes Americans do. Bend over lucky U.S. lottery winner. This is dry.

*Math

@@tacticalfall4505 Oh Ya Sry

Or you can just complain a lot until they give it to you

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@@TheWereouttothewoods Thank You :)

Thank you! Can second that.

We don't care.

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Timothy Mckee What do you mean ?

Clare Pro I read that comment as arbeiderspartiet tests. Oof

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Ngl I do that every mf time and get good grades, stonks people, stonks

@jocaguz18 the Advance Placement test is an American standardized test that, if passed, gives a high school student college credit

Searching online barely helped at all for AP tests

That probably explains a lot of mobile games that I see advertised. "Are you smarter than this idiot playing our game who doesn't even know that gravity pulls things downward?"

That changed in the last while - like 10-ish years ago. Someone else commented his father had to complete a STQ, in the 00's, and I had to fill out a simple STQ on the back of the ticket to claim a prize from 6/49 itself in the late 90's. Looks like the lottery corporations (government-owned Crown Corporations) hashed things out with the Cdn. Competition Bureau and got the restriction removed from the lotteries. (which makes sense because that's WHY the STQ was in there in the first place for the US - to distinguish private contests from the government-run lotteries)

@@empath69 We bought lottery tickets in the 80s and they never had a skill testing question, but contests did. Even small prizes like winning a drink or burger had a STQ on the back of the paper. But, I've never seen a lottery ticket have one. Lotteries are run by the provinces, so unless there are different rules in different provinces. I have bought and won small amounts in lotteries in Sask. and Alberta and never had to answer a skill testing question.

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They had equal signs in them the variable was the space symbol I guess....

technically the question is to give a numeric form of that expression

Sorry eh

Let's not bother with the se'math'ics, shall we?

In 1989 the High Court of Justice of Ontario merged with the District Court and the Surrogate Courts of Ontario to create what is now the Ontario Superior Court of Justice. The video's right in citing the Ontario High court of Justice but it's pretty confusing since it isn't doesn't exist anymore and can mislead people not willing to do further research. The fact that this wasn't clarified in the video and that the photo was mixed up just screams that no more than 30 minutes of research went into this video. It's easily correctable mistakes like these that really lower Wendover's and HAI's credibility.

HE ACIDENTALLY PUT A WRONG PICTURE OF SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T EVEN EXIST ANYMORE?!?!?!! HOW COULD A HUMAN DO THAT??? youtubers these days smh

@Michael JH Yeah but High Court of Justice of Ontario doesn't

We don't care.

@@B3Band you seem to care

Ngl bruh Im just surprised a croissant can do math. Great job 👏

Usually lottery is called poor tax

Agreed

as a canadian i can confirm this

You don't think that Little Canada, Minnesota isn't a bit of a giveaway? 😉

The only thing that Canada and Minnesota have in common is we both are cold and we both love hockey

How dare you, Sam. How dare you.

Popular guy gets no replies :sad:

And to think... I'm north of Detroit... that means I'm still south of canada..... yaaaaaay

@@timmtheilig6827Detroit is a border city with Canada. The Canadian side of the border is actually south of Detroit.

@@zombanator3000 Not necessarily. Parts of Ontario are south of Detroit

@@zombanator3000 The southernmost part of Ontario (Point Pelee) shares the same latitude as northern California.

almost like borders between states (both meanings here) are just imaginary lines that only sometimes account for geography.

Because contests cause cancer in Quebec? No wait, that's California! 😛

HAI doing a Simpsons

That’s the memorial for the war of 1812 in Baltimore, so it’s supposed to be a representation of the flag from that time period

Somebody forgot to update their flag lool

We deleted all the unimportant states

don't worry, it also has 15 stripes

I thought you were raised in Pyongyang, Dear Leader?

Idea: Make a lottery on who to nuke next, it will help with world domination!

Hey kimmy

Wait, Kim Jong-un came from _Detroit?_

That song always bothered me. "South Detroit? So, like, Windsor Ontario?"

I really want to say I saw it on the back of lotto 6/49 tickets as a kid, but I could be misremembering and it was another contest.

@@jmanig76 nope, the pre-printed 'skill-testing-question' was right under the line for 'telephone number' as recently as the 00's apparently. I know I had to fill out a 6/49 ticket in the 90's and do that basic four-function math equation. But sometime after that, looks like the rules changed and they only ask for "Name" "Address" and "Tel." now. Guess the CCB got a clue and remembered the whole reason for the STQ was to distinguish the privately-operated contests from the government-run lotteries (which 6/49, Lotto Max, etc. all are)

I thought it too

Did the rules change? 48 - 14 = 34 right? I thought adding up has higher priority then substracting?

Lukas van der Zee adding and subtracting are of equal priority. You go from left to right.

@@LZ-zi3ll The rules have never changed. As InGamer says, adding and subtracting are equal priority. If i told you to have 1 cow, take 1 cow away and then add another cow you have 1 cow. By your method you have -1 cows.

They have same priority. I think the confusion was with PEDMAS. In that reasoning addition has priority over subtracting. I just want to know how she got 51

Actually they 'do'... Would you like the prize as 30 year installment or as one time payment at (approx) 70% of the prize before taxes? And watch as the brain/head of the prize winner explodes in confusion. Say, you won 100M lottery, you can get the sum (and more) over 30 years, or one time payment of 70M, then pay an one time tax payment on that 70M?? If you should invest that remainder (let's just say 50M, to keep the math easy). Any money you make is taxed as capital gain (short term, or long term...) I think Canadians have it easier.

As a Canadien unlike you I won a local lotterie and didn't answer a math question at all

When you look at the odds but still buy a ticket, you've already failed math.

I mean, it makes perfect sense that a country wouldn't have a law that basically accomplishes nothing now that everyone knows the loophole.

@D Early that's not how human brains work

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Nah I'm good

BBQ sauce

2 fish fillets please

Chicken nuggets pls oh and Schezwan sauce

This is fuckin gold

underrated

Thats actually so good

That's nice

We don't care.

There is no requirement to answer a skill testing question for the likes of Lotto 6/49 or LottoMax.

@@blackprince7510 Good. I absolutely hate math with a passion. If I won and had a skill-testing question, I'd find a Professional Engineer and pay them to do the calculation and give them $1000 for their assistance.

@@blackprince7510thanks for confirming. I was scratching my head for a sec. like maybe i forgot in all the excitement.

@@blackprince7510 not NOW; but that changed in like the last 10-ish years. I know for a fact I had to fill out the boilerplate form on the back of a 6/49 ticket in the 90's that had "Name", "Address", "Telephone Number" and "Answer this skill-testing question: " Also another commenter noted his father had to complete a STQ to claim a Lotto Max prize in the 00's, so I'd imagine the Canadian Competition Board finally came to its senses soon after that, since the STQs aren't on the backs of the tickets anymore. Good thing too, because they were only there to distinguish a privately-operated contest from a government-run lottery (which 6/49, LottoMax, etc all are) so it's foolish to put THEM under the same restriction. :)

You don't need math to walk and you don't need math to drive. This isn't Japan. You might as well break her legs if you tell her she can't drive. She probably can't even go to the convenience store without turning an ignition. What a dumbass comment.

love your name lmao

@@sebastianelytron8450 everyone: 100 subscribers with no video Someone not sure about his skills: 7.5 million subscribers with no video

use a calculator. Double check it with your friends. No one cares if you were really good enough to do it, it's a legal technicality.

@Grip My Clips 😉 more like centuries: size of the Earth (if you wondrr: Colombus had that debate with every other person, and he was wrong, he thought Earth was far smaller, which is the reason why he fought he could reach China via sea), whether it turns around the sun or the sun turns around it (turns out that if you are really pedantic, both are true, it depends of your repository),

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🅱️arenthesis?

@@KaliTakumi Brackets, silly. ;p

Bedmas? I was taught pemdas (parenthesis, exponent, multiply, divide, add, subtract). Regardless, I've yet to find an order that leads me to 51 lol

@@demmer44 BIDMAS is another common one, with the I standing for Indices (or Index when singular). Yeh shes dumb because even x even, and odd +/- odd will always produce an even result. Thus you can actually follow the method wrongly and still not get an odd number.

About 0, 00182 km, why?

You guys can get them for so much cheaper up there than in the states :( all of the prices on Canadian websites are hundreds of dollars cheaper than what they are in the US