Why Cyberpunk Edgerunners HURTS 

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Hah dad jokes 🤭

Bruh😂😂😂😂

Fucking beautiful choom! Lol

Thanks choomba

The saddest truth about edge runners, she really did fall for that dude didn't she. She just wanted him to live in the end, a type of love we all long for 😢

God that's so blue pilled.

He seen all of them come true. He took over the mantle for Maine, he got to the very top of Arisaka Tower, and he got Lucy to the Moon. None of them realised that it was going to kill David, and none of them realised that it wasnt what they really wanted.

True. In NC you either die a legend, or just fade. No in betweens.

Yeah 100% Cyberpunk is a dystopia, there are no "happy endings". Just endings.

I don't disagree that it was written by people outside of the studio and this benefitted the show massively. ... I don't follow why that would make it not anime though. It's an animation that was made in Japan, so it's an anime. I also am very confused as to what Trigger productions you watched which didn't have an ending to them..?

I disagree on the first part due to anime being an art style and Trigger does regularly have jacked ends. And I totally agree on the second point, cyberpunk is all about the "No happily ever after" idea, it's bittersweet but 1000% better than Disney garbage. The fact the game gives you 3 options and all options lead to the same start are a perfect example of this, no matter who you are the world will grind you up and shit you out. In some ways its better than our current world

This also brings in the bleakness of a war in the shadows like in the Shadorun setting but the depth of feeling of the original Gundam complete with the "kill 'em all" Tomino mindset. Corporate wars where you are just a consumable commodity, much like now but more blatant.

out of nowhere and unnecessary, but fits Adam Smasher's character since he loves to kill. Crew was fucked second he appeared. Very accurate to the ttrpg lol

The suddenness of it a think has a great effect, its that “oh fuck!?” factor

They were "fuckable meat" if you remember the dialogue between V and Adam.

@@Razgriz_01 I wouldn't say that this was unnecessary. Take a look at Rebecca's POV. She lost her brother and considered David as the second one. Surviving but also seeing David die would probably break her just like Lucy.

me too, the fact that it was one of the easiest bosses in cyberpunk 2077 made it so much worse

Nah, just psychosis prolly

NO. DON'T YOU DARE

I somewhat disagree. I see where you’re coming from and in a sense David did succeed at that particular goal of getting Lucy to the moon. But I don’t believe that it was because it was his main objective but because by that point in the show, it was the only one he could viably achieve. And I say this because if getting Lucy to the moon was his main goal he would’ve done it long before the ending of show. We could see he was making bank when he became the leader, literal stacks of Eddie’s, and what did he do with it? Did he save up and leave night city or buy that ticket to the moon? No he upgraded himself out of his desire to fulfill maines dream. He selfishly chose to chase a deadman’s dream over the dream of his women and in doing so also failed to live up to his moms dream for him. And I honestly think had things kept going smoothly for David, he would’ve probably kept going as a edge runner, ultimately turning himself into mechanical monstrosity not unlike Adam smasher.

@@cannakage7114 spot on analysis. I agree, after a while you could tell getting Lucy to the moon wasn't his main priority. What he really had was an addiction. He convinced himself he was so special to the point he went over his tolerance which eventually lead to his downfall. For me, it just showed a sad, broken character who wanted to be the saviour of everyone's dreams. That what the cyberpunk genre as a whole aims for.

@@cannakage7114 100% fax Lucy even tried to retire, David never got the hint

I hope these efforts to make Adam Smasher into the player destroyer succeed. Either mods or an official patch to re-work the entire fight to be like this really difficult boss fight. That would be cool.

I don't think this would ruin game balance, rather fix it! Adam Smasher was definitely meant to be one hell of a boss fight that you have to be really prepared for

Not realy, the fight is pretty proportionate considering V at level 50 is supposed to be a monster. Considering that Adam Smasher has the highest stat in Body 18, while V at level 50 should have 3 stats at level 20. Having 1 stat at level 20 is equivalente to Rache Bartmoss who had Intelligence at 20 and crashed the whole Net so yeah.... Adam Smasher is a chump compared to a full level V.

@@dorianbear292 Given how much of a legacy Adam has, and how much longer he's been operating in lore (he first appears in his usual form, so still full borg, in Cyberpunk 2020, which is set in 2020) he should be leaps and bounds ahead of V given how many more decades of combat experience he has by 2077, js. I mean for fucks sake, he was basically designed as a one man TPK machine

there is no game balance in a world where you can get like a 4 second cooldown on your sandy

"Unbroken"? My dude, she was regularly stealing from corpses and selling their hardware on the black market.

YOOO i- never even thought about it like that. that relates back to the convo that he had with doc who called him smasher 2.0. He had that illusion in his brain and reality broke it

He thought he was built different.

That is deep.

​@doncroc3765 and to expand on that a bit more, in the game V is special among legends. Smasher ends up in the same position versus V as David is in versus Smasher.

Talent vs hardwork 🔥

Bravo to you good sir

then you are propably a rly narcitistic person

@@Lapsukainen All I'm saying to that is, I'm not the one with the anime-me profile pic.

Honestly I wasn’t half a shocked as I was supposed to be because the outcome was foreshadowed to hell and back. They said it from the moment main died that this was only going to end in tragedy. Every since David became super David every character knew he was a ticking time bomb and by episode 8 he was just waiting to snap. I don’t think the show intended the go after expectations. I think we’re just are so used to things miraculously working out that we didn’t see where this was going when it was staring us in the face. The show is borderline Shakespearean by how it shows you how it’s going to end, it’s just a matter of how.

@@personman8734 True, honestly a lot of people went in knowing the rules and tendency of the cyberpunk setting and genre. I was one of them too, but it still left a deep note regardless.

Yeah, Secret Ending is ABSOLUTELY the way to fight Smasher. The rest of the endings were scaled back for balance purposes, but Secret Ending pulls out ALL the goddamn stops.

Absolutley smashing

@@antaresyoung9614 I love playing that ending.

Don't fear the reaper smasher was kinda mid for me tense not in a OH FUCK IM GONNA DIE (that was the earlier sections) tense in a "this nigga Is hysterical lemme run around and wait for him to run his attack course so I can attack his opening" but then again I was using a OP net running build, felt like I was melting him too fast so I stopped the quickhacks and used a poison Yinglomg, that melted him EVEN FASTER. So I handicapped myself and just used Guts/Malorian arms and my mantis blades to savior the fight a little longer

I just did it with my katana sandy + kerenzikov.

U like me fr

Twin frs

I had only played the TTRPG a bit back in the day (I prefer Shadowrun) before the anime came out... i didn't realize that the game nerfed Adam Smasher into someone that people thought was actually someone they could fight. He's been one of the Big Bads forever... that's a one man TPK regardless of how strong a team of runners gets. He's like a century old & billions worth of cred installed into him

You animal

I did the same thing and cried both times. It’s so damn good yet so damn painful every time.

Facts bro makes me wanna cry for day straight it’s so painful

On my 4th watchthrough goml

2 times I still try to forget it wut tipe of soul u have😨

But cyber punk and take revenge not just for Johnny but for David and Rebecca and everyone

There are no stereotypical "happy endings" in cyberpunk stories, as they would defeat the purpose of the genre. The best you can ask for is that the protagonist winds up going out on their own terms. Like Alt tells you at the end of 2077, your efforts have earned you the choice between giving up your body, or dying within the year, there was never another way it was going to go.

@@andrewamann2821 choom

Correction: If you want a happy ending in the Cyberpunk genre...Don't go chasing waterfalls!

If u want a happy/progressive ending at all, the solarpunk genre is defo the way to go!

if you want a happy ending in cyberpunk .... LEAVE NIGHT CITY !!!

...good thing you got a chomba who's already dead

It’s a world where corporations control every single aspect of your life. There is no happy ending

The real villain even winned

Gurren Lagann is top 5 best animeeee

Gurren Lagann is top 3 along with Full Metal Alchemist.

Nah bro the world didn't got a happy ending, thats the main point of critique that Cyberpunk does about a dark version of our future. Arasaka and Militech just lost a couple millions and some employees, that's it. CEOs will get replaced and the corpos will keep going

Actually, interestingly enough, this show subverts zero tropes. This story is a by the book doomed outlaw story. This type of story was pretty popular in the 90s and early 2000s. Its kind of sad that modern anime viewers think its something new...

@@xenn4985 not really an anime guy watched a few over the years but not loads. Coming from a mostly western style story’s the doomed hero isn’t very common but fair enough I’ve learned something lol 👍

@@nayftv are you having a laugh? The doomed outlaw story LITERALLY originated with the western.

this is actually true, i smiled and felt shitty at the same time

What smiles? Man I was left with tears and emptiness. I sat for about 2 hours just staring at the wall, unable to exist outside of shock and sadness and then when finally able to move, walked to my bed and blacked out. Fuck this show, it was fucking great. But fuck man...

Glorias death was more expected than Pilars death, i think is what he’s trying to get at

Love the criticism, and we'll get there one day

I don't think it was dragged out. It was genuine and funny.

Right I don't think it dragged out but I get wordy long form isn't always for everyone I liked and shared tho I thought it was dope

I played the TTRPG but not the videogame... so i understood exactly what was going to happen upon his introduction. Adam Smasher is a walking one man TPK... and it's not even going to be close regardless of how strong the players are. He's on some Hand of God level shit that you as a player are never even going to approach

He's what's known as a high functioning cyberpsycho. Johnny Silverhand is also a high functioning cyberpsycho, though Johnny's psychosis takes the form of his silver hand. When his psychosis acts up it's in the form of his silver hand talking to him to commit acts of violence and murder. Mike Pondsmith confirmed it too

You literally do fight smasher in 2077 idk what you’re on abt bro

You literally do fight smasher in 2077 idk what you’re on abt bro

@@zan821 no, you fight some mannequin that looks like him, he is meant to be used to end games that have gone too well for the players. beating him is not even supposed to be feasible, let alone easy like in 2077.

how about that guy who beat the game without leveling up his attributes? :I he had the most rudimentary implants because of this, and leveling up skills without getting implants give better results, yet the fight is still feasible in one way or an other sure he had to rely on getting low on HP so the Microgenerator would zap Smasher, it still worked, it shouldn't have the guy also did a lot of other runs like that, all on the hardest difficulty, where he handicapped himself real hard and even if you don't plan your attributes from the start, if you chose the right cyberware to compensate you can become way more powerful than Smasher, although not as much as a planned build could be

I did a "complete every side quest possible before the next main mission" run. Went through the heist at like level 20. Hit level 50 before finishing one of the 3 main story quest lines.

Hmm, I beat Smasher with bare hands and without any other implant that you get in main story. CDPR just made Smasher 1% of his real power.

THAT'S THE EXACT QUOTE I THOUGHT OF WHEN WATCHING EDGERUNNERS!! Cyberpunk's main theme is that there are no happy endings, Edgerunners executed that PERFECTLY

People need to drop this "lorewise" argument when talking about V. The creators of the game had no regard for inserting V into the lore, V was intended to be a "somebody, somehow" shrouded in mystery lorewise character. Its a fucking game, V should be treated as a foot note.

The game actually hints at Blackhand still being alive, there's an article on WNS that describes a solo that matches Blackhand's description taking out a gang non lethally and rescuing some hostages.

@@seanswick303 Yes! hence why i wrote "supposedly" within brackets. : 3

@@xenn4985 Man, i was just excited about lore, why you gotta be such a downer

@@rakimion if "dont be a downer" was a valid response to anything in life you would be shitting in the forest and huddling under a pile of dirt to keep warm at night. If you dont call out stupid shit, it will persist. Do better.

I thought about this too while watching it. This is where we’re headed; and it’s already here for a lot of people.

Yeah, unfortunately our world is reflective of a lot of cyberpunk tropes; war/conflict, destruction, overconsumption, bondage disguised as freedom. Beyond the aesthetic of the flashy neon lights, the genre is pretty tragic in reality. I recommend checking out the less popular but more optimistic genre: solarpunk, if u haven't already. This genre is just as realistic and just as interesting but also more compatible with a real future where we can all thrive. Solarpunk resists cyberpunk in every way.

Yeah, me too I've been watched it 4th times yet the pain is still there 😭💀

i can only feel for rebecca, she was honest and all the others were just humans.

Fr 😂

I don't think he is supposed to be Dominican, It seems he is from Santo Domingo, the same name as the the capital of Dominican republic, but it is a district on a fictional city on north California. The district known for having lots of Dominican refugees is Pacifica, not Santo Domingo.

Yeah David is mexican. Santo Domingo is a neighborhood in night city. 6th street turf

Becca was screwed the moment Pilar died

@@jad563 So true - she clung to the only other close relationship she had (i.e. David) and died as a result of it…

A few issues: --I don't recall that David ever avenged her. It's the city that kills her, not any one person. Caught in an unrelated conflict due to the lawlessness, and left to die because only the rich are allowed good, life-saving treatment, his mother succumbed to her wounds. --He doesn't completely bring down the people responsible for the cyberskeleton and kidnapping Lucy because that was the Arasaka Corporation as a whole. A corporation that is still functioning well and thriving. --He saved Lucy, but I would argue that he did anything but save her dream. It's very clear that her dream changed during the course of the show. If going to the moon was her dream, she could've gone any time as evidenced by the amount of money they had and as long as she was okay with not coming back. But she didn't. Because that dream no longer had any meaning if David wasn't in it. All she wanted was for him to live. I think she goes to the moon in the end because it was the best way to honor his memory, to live the dream that he spent his life to protect. Even though it was empty.

That’s is so true. I run Cyberpunk Red and it can turn into a massacre so fast.

Holy shit man you ok?

Damn. Hope you’re good bro.

I can relate to this. I think it probably wasn't the show itself, but rather my life was just going downhill and the ending just made the cup overflow so to say. Hope you're good choom.

V was dying too but he/she crushed adam smasher

@@flyleaftears9738 V is a "wish fulfillment" character that wins because he's the Player and YOUR suppose to win, the complete opposite of David. Adam Smasher is twice as fast as Usain Bolt. Highly athletic. Ungodly Strong an Tough. A student of a martial art that was developed by Borgs for Borgs (that can rip armor plating off vehicles) Is totally immune to anything that isn't an Anti-Borg weapon (of which the video-game has about 3 of) Has a Sandevistan. ...and prefers weapons that are of either the "autocannon caliber" or are an unholy matrimony of a 10-guage shotgun and a mini-gun. The Devs pretty much admitted that if you fought the real Smasher, V would just DIE (and your system would crash/catch fire).

@@RallasterAsuremen THIS! The Adam Smasher of the video game is a shell of the figure from the tabletop game - not an obstacle to overcome, but a meme to be made on the internet…

What name of song

@@TrustDevon I really want to stay at your house

David is mexican the name of his neighborhood, Santo Domingo, has the same name as the capitol of the Dominican republic, but thats not intended. David is mexican, from the neighborhood, not the country DR

This. I wish he would've just listened to Doc and Lucy when they told him to lower his chrome, could've possibly ended better.

To add it’s also how close to home the Cyberpunk genre is. More and more our society is getting closer to that always plugged-in megacorp dystopia. We can relate with Cyberpunk characters so fast because it hits a ton of deep seated fears we have of our future.