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@Astartes-6969
@Astartes-6969 5 месяцев назад
It's sad to think viserys genuinely loved his sister once and took care of her when he was a boy, but his disent into madness isn't surprising.
@finnkyrie4569
@finnkyrie4569 5 месяцев назад
It's them Targaryen genes kicking in. Viserys was unfortunate it came to him early because of the circumstances. If he grew up when Targaryen was still on the throne, he might have grown to be a fine prince. Not as fine as Rhaegar, but fine nonetheless.
@Astartes-6969
@Astartes-6969 5 месяцев назад
@@finnkyrie4569 Probably. Man I'd love to see an animated film of both Dany & Vis as kids in essos.
@queenxx1690
@queenxx1690 5 месяцев назад
He got half mad when he sold their mother crown to buy food
@viewer8734
@viewer8734 5 месяцев назад
​@@finnkyrie4569 Targaryen madness was more likely a propaganda, the only Targ who are geinunely born mad were Aerion brightflame, and the guy who starved himself to death. in Aerys case it's understandable because who the fuck wouldnt go mad after being imprisoned and tortured for months. Be more critical when reading through the perspective of characters, if you think about it the Targ madness only come the moment they start outbreeding with the Martells, Dayne and Hightowers.
@viewer8734
@viewer8734 5 месяцев назад
​@@finnkyrie4569how can someone even take characters opinion on face value baffles me no wonder so many people end up in shitty jobs
@hugod9131
@hugod9131 5 месяцев назад
He also said: "You're the blood of the dragon, not a fucking fish"
@NeonGenesisevangelion121
@NeonGenesisevangelion121 5 месяцев назад
😂😂
@MissAyame89
@MissAyame89 5 месяцев назад
He’s not wrong
@baccoony9148
@baccoony9148 5 месяцев назад
Lmao
@kjelllofgren5712
@kjelllofgren5712 5 месяцев назад
Tully
@daynadunn3344
@daynadunn3344 4 месяца назад
LMFFFFFFFFFAAAAAO
@nunyabiznes33
@nunyabiznes33 5 месяцев назад
We hated this guy but unlike Joffrey and Ramsey, he's been through a lot and so it's easier to understand how he eventually broke.
@whiteravengaming9873
@whiteravengaming9873 5 месяцев назад
I mean despite how shitty he was I could see it in the portrayal. Specifically the line "The weight of the greatest dynasty in the world on my shoulders since I was seven." That is when it sunk into me that he not only constantly had to struggle to make sure they were not assassinated, but he had to use what little he had avail to try to return the Targs to glory.
@whiteravengaming9873
@whiteravengaming9873 5 месяцев назад
What is also crazy is how much Robert hated the Targs. Like if you look at it, he didn't really know Lyanna that well...I think its said somewhere he never actually met her. But his hatred for her abduction was carried over to not just Rhaegar but all Targs. You could say it was because of Aerys burning Ned's father, but wouldn't Ned be the one who is so consumed with Rage? He is actually the one who counsels against killing Dany.
@goldenerkese
@goldenerkese 5 месяцев назад
Lyanna knew that he was a chronical cheater and wasn’t interested in Robert at all. Her falling for the prince just hurt his massive ego that’s why he hates them so much. Robert is truly a villain
@goldenerkese
@goldenerkese 5 месяцев назад
Robert also mistreated Cersei from the start even when she still glorified him, which changed when he called her lyanna during their first night
@latviandragon2718
@latviandragon2718 4 месяца назад
besides I dont recall him doing stuff that rivals either of these two pychos
@11bluekitkats
@11bluekitkats 5 месяцев назад
I’ve always heard two different sides of Viserys when he was young. One said he always had Targaryen madness and another said he was kind boy until the humiliation of giving away his mother’s crown finally rid him of his kindness and left only cruelty.
@heynotizzy7493
@heynotizzy7493 5 месяцев назад
He was fine when he was younger, he became mad after selling his mother’s crown
@taliyahrose
@taliyahrose 5 месяцев назад
Targaryen madness does not exist.
@mozzy1268
@mozzy1268 5 месяцев назад
@@taliyahroseto be fair, Barristan did say he observed madness in Viserys when he was younger, hence why he chose to join Robert instead of Viserys
@Loralanthalas
@Loralanthalas 4 месяца назад
He was a coward who squandered what little they had, even selling off his sister for money. Ego. Nothing to back it up. Not even employed. Just a fucking bum.
@katelinpinnell
@katelinpinnell 4 месяца назад
@@taliyahrose that’s not true lmao, the famed “Targaryen madness” was a result of centuries long inbreeding and incest. It’s a scientific fact that incest babies can be born with mental and physical defects that sometimes don’t start showing until further on in their lives. Since every Targaryen was born from incest in one manner or another the “madness” is normal
@shstardust8862
@shstardust8862 5 месяцев назад
This is why it was strange that they made her react the way she did to Jon’s parentage….at least that’s how I saw it. She saw him as a threat instead of the ally and security he should have been. Secure him as her consort thus the throne and the north.
@dhairiyasundar1285
@dhairiyasundar1285 5 месяцев назад
I agree. Jon was the last person she needed to be worried about. I also wonder if it's because all the men that were supposed to protect her and provide for her, failed miserably. So maybe shed forgone that possibility completely. Maybe she didn't trust anyone. Maybe this was a part of her storyline of descent into madness. It's very complicated. I do however wish the writers had done a 180 on the scene when Jon tells her. All of us including Jon expected her to feel threatened. And had she instead hugged him. It would've been so wholesome. He was the family she truly deserved.
@ChrisPierce-y1r
@ChrisPierce-y1r 5 месяцев назад
its because those show runners suck...
@ChrisPierce-y1r
@ChrisPierce-y1r 5 месяцев назад
​​@@dhairiyasundar1285she did not go mad if u re-watch the entire show untill then she never would have killed children or innocent people but especially children...then to have no second thought no guilt no that was not her that was a way to end a story line quickly so the show runners could get to the star wars they where offered untill star wars saw how they did GOT and cancelled it 😂😂😂😂😂
@GirlInteruppted
@GirlInteruppted 4 месяца назад
@@dhairiyasundar1285People say that the signs were the acts that was done to her. And all that build up caused her to go mad. But that’s the worse excuse I’ve ever heard. They don’t even come up with good reasons like for example i seen some say “Her killing the slavers and not negotiating with them first, shows her arc” or “she watched her brother die and didn’t flinch, like it’s still her brother.” None of them make sense and half of these people don’t read the books so they don’t understand her for the most part. I do think she will go mad but maybe while she’s ruling. It wouldn’t just be a snap during war. She’s too smart.
@shstardust8862
@shstardust8862 4 месяца назад
@@ChrisPierce-y1r That is true but since it’s what we got I still wonder🤷‍♀️
@isabellajensen9480
@isabellajensen9480 5 месяцев назад
Daenerys actually wanted to marry Rhaegar. She romanticised him a lot. Viserys was even angry with her for not being born earlier. Everyone loves Rhaegar and yet no one actually knew him
@ABUBAKAR-yi8eg
@ABUBAKAR-yi8eg 5 месяцев назад
He was dead even before she was born
@isabellajensen9480
@isabellajensen9480 5 месяцев назад
@@ABUBAKAR-yi8eg he was but she still romanticised him for what people said about him. She also had lots of dreams and visions about him
@Papaty25
@Papaty25 5 месяцев назад
​@@isabellajensen9480 Nah, where did you get that from?😂 She didn't even know about Rhaegar until Ser Barristan told her.
@isabellajensen9480
@isabellajensen9480 5 месяцев назад
@@Papaty25 Of course she did, everything Viserys told her, he idolised Rhaegar too.
@Papaty25
@Papaty25 5 месяцев назад
@@isabellajensen9480 So? Viserys gave her the wrong description of Rhaegar. There was no way Dany liked violent men. She was too sweet and kind hearted.
@deannas2778
@deannas2778 5 месяцев назад
Viserys is a really sad character. He was kept separated from everyone due to the kings madness...he's still a prick but I get it
@nunyabiznes33
@nunyabiznes33 5 месяцев назад
Rhaella kept him sheltered exactly coz his dad was going mad. He had no idea how messed up his family was.
@UnfazedPhoenix
@UnfazedPhoenix 7 дней назад
Daenyrs was separated from everyone too and she wasn't cruel to her brother. No excuses.
@keanancupido
@keanancupido 5 месяцев назад
Its so sad, but lets all remember we have Viserys to thank for keeping Daenerys alive until she got into the Dothraki where she'd later become the mother of dragons.
@hz.kemalpasa2997
@hz.kemalpasa2997 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for giving us the tyrant with 3 dragons Viserys, it will really help.
@Aydan2108
@Aydan2108 5 месяцев назад
​@@hz.kemalpasa2997 dumbass, how is she a tyrant in the books?
@Aydan2108
@Aydan2108 5 месяцев назад
​@@hz.kemalpasa2997what?, how is she a tyrant in the books?
@hz.kemalpasa2997
@hz.kemalpasa2997 5 месяцев назад
@@Aydan2108 What do you mean? Since she killed Drogo all she did was try to threaten and burn her way to Westeros. She demands strangers lay everything they own under her feet on the pain of death. She left Astapor in ruins, she burned down the House of the Undying, she abandoned Yunkai and fucked up Mereen. She tortures and executes without trials all the time, and she never takes accountability for her actions. She is a self righteous tyrant with delusions of grandeur.
@Evija3000
@Evija3000 5 месяцев назад
​​​​​@@hz.kemalpasa2997 She's also a 13-15 year old girl with no experience in ruling and practically no advisors. She was raised by her half mad brother and then the dothraki, with only one Westerosi simp to occasionally give her reasonable advice. She wasn't only trying to make her way to westeros, she knows poverty and to a degree slavery and wants to free the slaves, but she's been raised by pretty brutal/mad people so her way of going about it is messed up and confused. At one point she also acknowladges her lack of experience and instead or rushing west decides to stay and learn. She got too much power too early. She shows both signs of a tyrant, mostly against those with power, and compassion. I just find her to be an interesting character.
@aerabellabeau2155
@aerabellabeau2155 4 месяца назад
Dude went through hell. He ...unlike danaerys...actually knew his parents and brother and actually felt the bitter sting of their death and loneliness in a way danaerys couldnt. He then protected her until he broke. Tragic that the cruelty of the world drove him to madness. He was a prick but still deserves an oz of compassion and empathy.
@weeniehutjr9977
@weeniehutjr9977 4 месяца назад
no he doesn’t. he abused and sold off his sister - who was a child.
@captainobvious6070
@captainobvious6070 4 месяца назад
Don't sell the intelligent ones this false villain arc story, you're wasting yo time. He was bad to his sister. No pity for him. The world is in a mess because of people like ye who find excuses for Jerk.s.
@ginathecookie
@ginathecookie 4 месяца назад
His story deserves sympathy and understanding for how he came to me. He himself does not. You can seperate the two and you should when it comes to abuse. Otherwise it kind of excuses it. Edit: Typos.
@lol-ot4pn
@lol-ot4pn 4 месяца назад
He didnt deserve it. His child self wouldve.
@IbrarH-sn3oy
@IbrarH-sn3oy 3 месяца назад
​@@weeniehutjr9977 shed be dead if not for him
@AniSwiftTVRecaps
@AniSwiftTVRecaps 5 месяцев назад
Viserys was a good brother considering there circumstances its just that he was obsessed with reclaiming everything that was taken away from them. Think about it soon after watching his mother die he sailed off to bravos where he also watched the only loyal night die as well, after he died the servants stole everything they could before leaving. Then the only thing he had left to remember his roots was his mothers crown and he had to sell it, afterwards viserys went around begging wealthy people to take them in which would eventually kick them out once they found out they were worthless until they found illyrio. He spent his entire life seeing people steal everything from him so he became obsessed with taking them back.
@busterandrews
@busterandrews 5 месяцев назад
Wasn’t he going to 🍇 (minus the gr) her before she got married until Mormont stopped him?
@richardzhuang5958
@richardzhuang5958 5 месяцев назад
​@@busterandrews yes he was going to ape her
@maxcritchley619
@maxcritchley619 5 месяцев назад
There are no lemon trees in Braavos
@AniSwiftTVRecaps
@AniSwiftTVRecaps 5 месяцев назад
@@busterandrews I think I wasn't clear I was saying viserys before he became obsessed with getting his thrones back by any means. Also I don't remember if that happened in the books also dany wanted to really marry viserys even on her wedding night she wanted to beg him to let her marry him instead of drogo then if I remember viserys met jorah on dany wedding day so I don't think that happened in the books. I remember the scene where visrys was gonna take dany eggs and jorah stopped him but not the grape one
@Aydan2108
@Aydan2108 5 месяцев назад
And he deserves his golden crown
@angeldollita
@angeldollita 5 месяцев назад
to think that they probably still had family in lys and they could still never find them (saera's descendants)
@emilybarclay8831
@emilybarclay8831 2 месяца назад
Saera’s descendants would be her great great great great great great great grand-aunt’s great great great great great great great grandchildren aka her 8th cousin. She had closer family in pretty much every city in Westeros that had a Targ bastard in the past 5 generations
@BlackwoodSupremacy
@BlackwoodSupremacy 5 месяцев назад
Dany has Stockholm Syndrome when it comes to Viserys and the Dothraki. That’s the only reason she doesn’t hate them with every bone in her body.
@MrVictor1227
@MrVictor1227 5 месяцев назад
No. Viserys was kind to her when they were young, but he basically was getting madder by the day
@bruhmcchaddeus413
@bruhmcchaddeus413 5 месяцев назад
No shi..? Dothrakis only reason she became so strong except her dragons lol also half the reason (other half being dragons) why she was feared in west
@jynxx37
@jynxx37 5 месяцев назад
If you read the books, Khal Drogo is actually very kind and good to Danaerys.
@ann.6854
@ann.6854 5 месяцев назад
Or maybe she realizes things aren’t THAT simple. What she and Viserys went through while living in exile was horrible, and Viserys as the older sibling had the responsibility to take care of her, even though he was a CHILD himself. He was becoming more and more mentally unstable and eventually he had to die, she knew and accepted that, but it makes sense why she can’t completely hate him even after his death.
@FyreTeGo
@FyreTeGo 5 месяцев назад
I don’t think she hated Dothraki, that was her original army no? She embraces the title of Khaleesi
@madambutterfly1997
@madambutterfly1997 5 месяцев назад
They should have just stayed in Lys especially when majority of the populace have the same Valyrian features they do. They could easily hide in plain sight even if Varys has spies everywhere.
@captiantimecanary6958
@captiantimecanary6958 2 месяца назад
Man I would for sure read a fic if you wrote it
@VaishnaviYadav-cw3mn
@VaishnaviYadav-cw3mn 5 месяцев назад
Imagine you're a child having to sell the last you had of your mother to feed your sister,yeah I think anyone would go mad
@GirlInteruppted
@GirlInteruppted 4 месяца назад
I get it but at the same time me being broke isn’t gonna make me an abuser and a pedo. I’m sure it would make you more optimistic and protective than anything. He’s always been this way it’s just came out at that moment. A psychopath is born not raised.
@VaishnaviYadav-cw3mn
@VaishnaviYadav-cw3mn 4 месяца назад
@@GirlInteruppted he definitely was a fucking psycho but at the same time, no child deserves what he went through. I think he deserves at least a little bit of sympathy
@user-us3jy2mb5r
@user-us3jy2mb5r Месяц назад
​@@GirlInterupptedwhen was he a pedo?
@Jdjdjdujakzgsha
@Jdjdjdujakzgsha Месяц назад
@@GirlInteruppted”a psychopath is born not raised” The sun is blue is a more correct statement
@indiadecoseytillman
@indiadecoseytillman 5 месяцев назад
Another set of Targaryen children lost to the game. It now makes more sense about him wanting his crown. So sad.
@deityjc
@deityjc 4 месяца назад
I think Viserys probably would've married her after taking the throne, or at least tried to assuming he could get rid of Drogo somehow.
@redbear4350
@redbear4350 4 месяца назад
Even if he is a villain with a reason nothing can justify what he did to Daeneerys.
@MoebiusChungus
@MoebiusChungus Месяц назад
People say Viserys madness was inherited by from the Mad King but forget that Viserys was an actual prince who experienced the royal life he was once had for a long time. His hope for returning to it fading with every day, he was quite literally hopeless and filled with scorn and bitterness by the story’s start.
@OliverurFace
@OliverurFace 4 месяца назад
Targaryens are just royal Alabamians
@aegorbittersteel2154
@aegorbittersteel2154 5 месяцев назад
In the context of their family, it makes sense. Vizzy T 3 going on and on about how he is a dragon and how great their family is, and the whole justification the Targaryens use is that they are just better, so easy assumption to make.
@AegonTargaryen-x8p
@AegonTargaryen-x8p 5 месяцев назад
Well, they re special and better than others, they re one of the few that escaped the doom, they have acess to dragons & they united 7 kingdoms into 1.
@aegorbittersteel2154
@aegorbittersteel2154 5 месяцев назад
@user-qv4bp7vg6u true just not a special how they think
@jeebanjeeban87
@jeebanjeeban87 5 месяцев назад
VizzyT3 LOL. Once Dunk and Egg drop.. I hope all Aegon's got nicknamed Egg LOL
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@aegorbittersteel2154 5 месяцев назад
@@jeebanjeeban87 I hope so as well.
@whoschach
@whoschach 3 месяца назад
If he just loved her and wedded her, he'd be a dragonlord. L Vizzy T the third.
@Almanatrix
@Almanatrix 5 месяцев назад
I have always found Viserys to be kind of a tragic character. It seems like most of the Targaryens have a trigger to their madness and his was losing his mother and all that remained of her memory. He was his mother's beloved baby boy until Daenerys was born and the stress of constantly running for their lives and the shame of their situation was likely too much for his young mind. It's easy to say "Not me" but in the same situation i don't think anyone would grow up to be very nice.
@GirlInteruppted
@GirlInteruppted 4 месяца назад
Hardly agree until the end. For your statements exactly he hated her for “killing” their mother given how much he loved her. Then he felt like he had to protect the very child that killed his mother. I think him seeing her and having everything go on did make him spiral. But then again to me he was always evil. He treated her like a bastard. You don’t have to be a good person but a decent one wouldn’t abuse you.
@zatturonald2533
@zatturonald2533 Месяц назад
I always wondered why Dany names her Dragon after Viserys.For a certain time took care of his little sister and genuinely loved her before the madness kicks in.
@Akiraspin
@Akiraspin Месяц назад
"The cream and gold I shall call Viserion. Viserys was cruel and weak and frightened, yet he was my brother still. His dragon will do what he could not." Dany has a horrific nightmare of Viserys with a skeletal molten gold face confronting her. He blames her for letting him die, and tells her he loved her and that she betrayed him. He tells her it "is hard to die unmourned" and that he waited so long for Drogo to keep his promise and instead Drogo murdered him. Daenerys tries to defend Drogo and Viserys laughs and points out that he is dead too along with their child, because of her. His jaw falls off as the rest of the molten gold consumes his face. Basically, Daenerys feels extremely guilty for letting Viserys die, and to be honest it was one of the dumbest things she ever allowed. Viserys was dimwitted and childish, cruel yes but he wasn't ever a real threat.
@YeahRight-dy8un
@YeahRight-dy8un 5 месяцев назад
To think that he actually cared for her a lot, but being a Targaryen spiraling to madness isn’t a new thing, unluckily for viserys it was hasten by what they went through growing up, selling their mothers crown is the last straw.
@jorilysmatos69
@jorilysmatos69 5 месяцев назад
King Aerys II was also kind and wise before he went mad so... 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️
@frnknstndrgqn
@frnknstndrgqn 5 месяцев назад
Wasn't he also kidnapped and tortured before tywin rescued him?
@jorilysmatos69
@jorilysmatos69 5 месяцев назад
@@frnknstndrgqn I think so
@VaishnaviYadav-cw3mn
@VaishnaviYadav-cw3mn 5 месяцев назад
He was a tragic character too then
@whoschach
@whoschach 3 месяца назад
Remember those theories of Bran warging into him? Like almost ten years ago? No?
@lolnothxyt
@lolnothxyt 5 месяцев назад
Am I high? What do those last things have to do with each other? The girl thought it'd be cool to be a sailor and he got mad because he said their line must be kept pure?
@frnknstndrgqn
@frnknstndrgqn 5 месяцев назад
I didn't get that part either
@Shaash_
@Shaash_ 5 месяцев назад
They’re the blood of a dragon not a fucking fish,top comment. They’re born to be rulers not fish folk is what her brother thinks
@theathenakeene
@theathenakeene 3 месяца назад
You’re right there’s no connection between the sentences. Man is just saying random words 😂
@EsteffersonTorres
@EsteffersonTorres 5 месяцев назад
It's been almost a decade since I read the books, so I forget details like this.
@mujahudin
@mujahudin Месяц назад
I just can't fathom looking at one of my sisters like 😍
@SchindlersFiist
@SchindlersFiist 3 месяца назад
I kinda wish his character stayed around longer. I mean, his golden crown scene was one of the coolest and most satisfying deaths. The actor was just amazing. It would've been nice to maybe see him get some sort of redemption. Whether it was in the past or not. But Dee wouldn't become who she was, and it is ASOIAF, after all!
@The-Allfather-Odin
@The-Allfather-Odin 5 месяцев назад
If Viserys staued sane they could have saved the Targaryen dynasty
@scottmeager5919
@scottmeager5919 5 месяцев назад
He didn’t want to hog her beauty all to himself! He wanted to share her with 40,000 Dothraki and their horses too! What a true selfless gentleman!
@justsomeguywithadogpicture2622
@justsomeguywithadogpicture2622 5 месяцев назад
Lana Rhoades has competition from someone that wasn't even trying Das crazy
@Alejojojo6
@Alejojojo6 5 месяцев назад
Thats on the show only lol
@GirlInteruppted
@GirlInteruppted 4 месяца назад
@@Alejojojo6I wish it was, in the books he says “I’d let his whole khalasar fuck you if need be, sweet sister, all forty thousand men and their horses too…”
@whoschach
@whoschach 3 месяца назад
If he kept riding her, he would eventually ride a dragon.
@alaynac.8282
@alaynac.8282 3 месяца назад
Pile 1 and I think a video with your old friend would be so interesting to see! This is so so accurate thank you!💖😊
@thecockerel86
@thecockerel86 5 месяцев назад
On the night before Daenerys's wedding, Viserys tried to sleep with his sister. He wanted 'first rights' to his sister before selling her into marriage. He was stopped in his attempt by Illyrio Mopatis, the Magister of Pentos.
@carastone3473
@carastone3473 5 месяцев назад
Where did that come from? Not in the show or the books.
@tajajones7003
@tajajones7003 5 месяцев назад
I’m reading the first one her wedding night is over now and I didn’t see any of that
@randomnigga-kun8471
@randomnigga-kun8471 5 месяцев назад
Bro just capping
@ER3BVSSS
@ER3BVSSS 5 месяцев назад
He is trolling lol😂
@thecockerel86
@thecockerel86 5 месяцев назад
Have any of you read A Dance With Dragons?
@SamanthaLemmens
@SamanthaLemmens 2 месяца назад
Yes this is what the show sadly didn’t explain as much as the books. Viserys, if he did have the madness or developed it because of all he went through, wasn’t always the monster he was in the beginning of the books. The guy lost everything at a young age and was forced to flee and defend himself and his sister against people who wanted to see them death. Also in order to survive he had to humiliate himself and entertain more powerfull lords or merchants who would let them stay for a night or give them food. They didn’t always live in the mansion. Looking at him and what we know I also think it is possible he was sexually abused by some of these men, further explaining his decend into madness and his treatment of Dany. I don’t know how people can just blindly accept everything what people say about him and Rhaegar. They put Rhaegar on some kind of pedestal despite all that his actions caused while condaming Viserys
@econley1088
@econley1088 4 месяца назад
Viserys got what he deserved tho
@WillowCommander
@WillowCommander 4 месяца назад
Definitely
@Spongebrain97
@Spongebrain97 5 месяцев назад
Wasn't there also a moment where Daenerys thinks that had their family not been destroyed in Westeros then she might've been married to Rhaegar's son Aegon?
@dontbother271
@dontbother271 5 месяцев назад
In the show, she did kinda got close to "marrying" Rhaegars son "Aegon" (not his first son)
@Aydan2108
@Aydan2108 5 месяцев назад
Yes
@BluePenguin200
@BluePenguin200 5 месяцев назад
Yes, she believed that since she is closer in age to his son than Viserys
@lahyte_5925
@lahyte_5925 4 месяца назад
Okay but who is the artist of the thumbnail illustration????
@hyper_ent0407
@hyper_ent0407 4 месяца назад
Yeah that's why im here too
@loralubimaia2783
@loralubimaia2783 4 месяца назад
Why was it so wrong for her to marry Jon Snow if its okay to marry her brother??
@anjelica948
@anjelica948 4 месяца назад
Jon may have Targaryen blood- but he was raised a Northerner. Incest is not something they’re okay with, unless there’s a few degrees of separation (like second cousins). Aunt/nephew would have Not been okay, and could very well have caused the North to label Jon as a traitor. They don’t really explain it much in the show, but in the books there is a bit more detail about why Targaryen incest is begrudgingly accepted. Unlike in real life where incest usually causes terrible genetic conditions and generally shortens a person’s lifespan, for the Targaryens it’s thought that it does actually keep them “pure”. It keeps their connection to the dragons very strong and is thought to influence if a dragon egg will hatch or not. It also used to be believed that ‘pure’ Targaryens were immune to diseases that would kill commoners- however that one was unfounded, as the very first Daenerys (first daughter of old King Jahaerys and good Queen Alysanne) died in childhood of illness, as did Baelon (Visery’s the 1st father), and many “pure” Targaryen women died in childbirth, or complications therein. The other reason why Targaryen incest was accepted (despite being against the tenants of the Faith of the Seven) was because Maegor the Cruel (one Aegon the Conqueror’s sons) very nearly destroyed the church completely (bc the Faith was trying to wipe out Valyrian tradition/cause an uprising against the Targaryens since they were technically foreign invaders). When the dust finally settled, the Faith decided to just lay low and let the Targaryens do what they liked, so they didn’t get eaten, or burned alive, by dragons.
@sylthereal
@sylthereal 4 месяца назад
​@@anjelica948still, family "madness" is probably due to genetic complications because of the incestuous dynasty and triggered by... well, a traumatizing life in a harsh medieval world. But yes, there is way less problems with Targaryen's incest than any other
@loralubimaia2783
@loralubimaia2783 4 месяца назад
@@anjelica948 thank you!! Great explanation
@hyper_ent0407
@hyper_ent0407 4 месяца назад
​@@anjelica948I wanted ao badly to get into this show because the story sounds so cool but the people in the fandom are ao insufferable
@anjelica948
@anjelica948 4 месяца назад
@@hyper_ent0407 Sometimes, yeah. But like any fandom, you gotta take the good with the bad.
@yomamma.ismydaddy216
@yomamma.ismydaddy216 5 месяцев назад
Her whole life up until the very beginning of the first book😂
@theGhostSteward
@theGhostSteward 3 месяца назад
I always get sad that Jon Connington didn't find them and kept them safe with Aegon. 😢
@caitlinbaines8617
@caitlinbaines8617 25 дней назад
I think they would’ve married if they both had dragons like they’re ancestors.
@rabiasaifi6639
@rabiasaifi6639 Месяц назад
I can't understand why people say there is madness im their genes. From whatever i have seen of the series and gathered, all of us are mad. They were in power. The only madness i see in them is their fetish for keeping the line pure and marrying their own siblings. The other things can be found in all of the human world.
@sapphicgeek24
@sapphicgeek24 Месяц назад
I do feel a certain amount of sympathy for Viserys. He was a boy who had everything ripped away from him. Then he was left to protect his infant/toddler/adolescent sister alone. He finally snapped and turned cruel. It's too much pressure for one that young.
@rhaella90
@rhaella90 4 месяца назад
actually I do not believe that Viserys or Daenerys gone mad. maybe became cruel but not mad. they know exactly what they were doing. and the other characters did worse but no one called them crazy. arya killed entire family and feed with human flesh some of them. jon snow killed a child because he betrayed him. stannis and his wife burn alive their little daughter and no one called them crazy. but when dany killed the tarly men after the war she called "crazy". it is totally bullshit.
@billyb7852
@billyb7852 5 месяцев назад
That first piece of art is awesome!
@ashleyc2525
@ashleyc2525 4 месяца назад
I wonder why they didn’t go to the Martells, after all their brother was married to one 🤨
@kanhaibhatt913
@kanhaibhatt913 4 месяца назад
It would be risky
@ashleyc2525
@ashleyc2525 4 месяца назад
@@kanhaibhatt913 why do you think that? Because of the Martells themselves or because others would know they were there?
@kanhaibhatt913
@kanhaibhatt913 4 месяца назад
@@ashleyc2525 They would have to move either way.
@gulsunbcakc3391
@gulsunbcakc3391 4 месяца назад
Rheagar left Elia and his children for to be with Lyanna stark and after she and her children killed but Martell was know Elia was so alone and unprotected so go to the dorne like piece of cake to catch or kill you
@tashaglam4824
@tashaglam4824 2 месяца назад
Because Dorne is still apart of Robert’s Kingdom. Robert was on a campaign to completely annihilate the Targaryen dynasty and so he would’ve done ANYTHING to kill Viserys and Dany. And if the Martells did try to harbor the Targaryen siblings as refuges in their custody and protection, Robert would have declared the Martells and all of Dorne as treacherous rogues and ordered war against Dorne. It wasn’t safe to keep them in Westeros. Taking them to Pentos meant they were beyond the crowns reach and Robert has no authority over there. And even while they were roaming the free cities, they were still targeted by Robert’s assassins.
@360entertainment2
@360entertainment2 5 месяцев назад
I’m willing to bet the reason the nobles lost interest on the Targaryen children was because Viserys was such an entitled brat. You can see it when he’s traveling with the Dothraki and he’s making all of the demands while they make fun of him, I’d imagine that had been what happened to him his entire life up to that point!
@nunyabiznes33
@nunyabiznes33 5 месяцев назад
I don't think the oligarchs in many of the Free Cities were willing to risk going to war with the Iron Throne. They probably just hosted the kids out of novelty but ultimately let them go. Illyrio only took interest in them coz he already have Varys in the Westerosi court.
@mslizzieforbes
@mslizzieforbes 2 месяца назад
I think he probably still intended to. He sold her to khal drogo for an army then would have annulled the marriage as king or had khal drogo killed and then wed his sister himself.
@spencerblake5713
@spencerblake5713 5 месяцев назад
That first picture woth viserys head of gold and Danny's bloody mouth goes so hard
@MoominLiv
@MoominLiv 4 месяца назад
The fact that Drogo didn’t know her language but literally waited for her to give consent on their wedding night is one of the reasons I love him so much. Drogo kept questioning her by asking “no?” to make sure she was okay and eventually Dany herself said “yes” without any coercion.
@kanhaibhatt913
@kanhaibhatt913 4 месяца назад
He was a war mongering savage. His relationship with Daenerys was based on force. I swear these Drogo fanboys are the same as Victarion fanboys, they love these characters even more than Grrm himself.
@essandera9499
@essandera9499 4 месяца назад
​@@kanhaibhatt913 The OC is talking about the books, where Drogo is different.
@kanhaibhatt913
@kanhaibhatt913 4 месяца назад
@@essandera9499 so am I. He's better in the show.
@TheDragiix3
@TheDragiix3 4 месяца назад
He absolutely did not wait for her consent do you even know the story 😂
@Nihilanth
@Nihilanth 3 месяца назад
she was only 13... Viserys literally sold her and she knew she had to say "yes", cause it was expected of her. don't forget that literally 2 chapters later, she's thinking about ending her own life cause she couldn't take no more
@Rozerin-rb4xl
@Rozerin-rb4xl 4 месяца назад
Its probably is influenced by the Ptolemeic family of Ancient Egypt
@pwintoosan7562
@pwintoosan7562 Месяц назад
I know they are fantasy characters in a fantasy story. But i really feel pity for them. Descendents of Great Royal family bagging for food and living. Poor kids 😢.
@BonsaiTurt47
@BonsaiTurt47 Месяц назад
I have been so attached to this band ever since I heard this song! I can hear the desperate message through his voice! They’re good people for even making this song.
@bhavsarvacha
@bhavsarvacha Месяц назад
I always feel bad for these dynasty members they made to live a cursed life
@LaKellita1
@LaKellita1 Месяц назад
In the books, Viserys was secretly betrothed to Princess Ariane of Dorne as part of a revenge pact.
@flavius5722
@flavius5722 5 месяцев назад
More that you read ,you realized how pointless the entire of Danerys and Viserys story is They had travel trow essos selling their things ,but next you must belive that Doran Martell spent 17 years waithing to marry Arriane with him , and Varys planning a Targheryan restoration , at least until Young Griff was created in Dance for Dragons
@Aydan2108
@Aydan2108 5 месяцев назад
"Pointless daenerys's story is"?
@flavius5722
@flavius5722 5 месяцев назад
@@Aydan2108 She id not even on the same continent where the story is happening, and we are at the 5th out of 7 books ,so yes pointless ,but here I was talking about the inconsistance betwen the first and the later books
@Aydan2108
@Aydan2108 5 месяцев назад
@flavius5722 dense ahh, the story of azor ahai who is also freeing nations from slavery is pointless?, Jon and area's storylines are also very separated from the other storylines, are they pointless too?, plus, there is no one main plot line, there are three, dany is essos, the others, and Kingslanding.
@flavius5722
@flavius5722 5 месяцев назад
@@Aydan2108 What did Danerys has to do with Azora Ahai , oh yea you are part of that miserable 😭 comunity of crazy Dany's adicts What slaves ? The unsulied are still slaves they just with a new master ,this time a young girl wich dosent make her any less a slave master , in Yunkai and Astapor the slavery is back from when has started Arya was and part of the story from the begining
@Aydan2108
@Aydan2108 5 месяцев назад
@flavius5722 what does she has to deal with azor ahai?, I don't know, maybe because SHE FULFILLED IT 💀, and the Unsullied are freemen, please tell me how is dany their "new young master"?, and most of the people of Yunkai are free, because they all went with her, and most of the people of Astapor came to dany too, and she took care of them as much she can, what is the use of that brain if you don't use it?.
@meanbean6011
@meanbean6011 5 месяцев назад
Didnt viserys also have to sell himself at a few points, to mKe some money? He was said to have all of ths fabled targaryen beauty.
@GirlInteruppted
@GirlInteruppted 4 месяца назад
I wish he had. Dude will sell his 5-13yr sister before he selled himself.
@Weaver1-s4k
@Weaver1-s4k 2 месяца назад
Literally every Targaryen who ever lived watching from heaven and hell as the last Targaryen male (Aegon VI) kills the last Targaryen female (Daenerys) without even having an heir or taking the throne: 💀
@sizzledrizzle
@sizzledrizzle 2 месяца назад
Viserays is what Griffith from berserk would have been without destiny
@exnihilonihilum2318
@exnihilonihilum2318 2 месяца назад
I’ve never read the book. But I never understand why the council of their father never talked to Rhaegar and make him understand that his father has to be stopped since rhaegar was someone nice. He could be a good king. It’s like they wanted to end the Targaryen dynasty once and for all. Imagine Daenerys having Drogon, Viserys having Viserion and Rhaegal having Rhaegar. I don’t even remember if one of the Daenerys dragon was a she-dragon. It could rebuild the dragon era of the Targaryen 😢
@ChrisPierce-y1r
@ChrisPierce-y1r 5 месяцев назад
was he a good brother before life wore him down
@bruzh6359
@bruzh6359 27 дней назад
Always keep the line pure. Because the sweetest fruit, is also the prohibited one.
@alwaysyouramanda
@alwaysyouramanda 4 месяца назад
It would have hurt so much more to see him change from loving and protective brother to.. that
@caseyh8386
@caseyh8386 Месяц назад
28:01 😂 You didn't do Tara like that! 😂 She said he looked like James Franco in Alien Resurrection and you were like nah 😂
@baptistamercado1380
@baptistamercado1380 2 месяца назад
It’s heartbreaking to know Viserys was Dany’s protector, teacher, and brother since Viserys was 9years old (after his mother died giving birth to Dany). You would think Viserys never cared for Danerys, until you realize Dany learned everything about House Targaryen from Viserys (including how to speak Valyrian). It’s heartbreaking to realize Viserys was Dany’s protector, teacher, and brother since Viserys was 9years old (after his mother died giving birth to Dany). And Viserys only became abusive when he had to sell their mother’s crown for a pittance, because they were on the street. It sucks people compare Viserys to Joffrey. Viserys may have been an asshole to Dany, but his conversations with other people made me realize Viserys was nowhere near as insufferable as Joffrey. E.g.) when Viserys asked Jorah Mormont why he was in exile, Joffrey and Ramsey would have been total douchebags once they heard the answer. Viserys didn’t talk down to Jorah, but simply said he would never have to worry about seeking poachers into slavery if Viserys was King. Besides when Viserys was drinking, or Viserys’ treatment of Dany, Viserys seemed like an intelligent and pleasant person. He was just blinded at his desire to reclaim his birthright, and his lack of patience really made him an asshole.
@earealcoates4394
@earealcoates4394 2 месяца назад
When she found out John was family, she couldn't let him go either.
@xeronix9774
@xeronix9774 2 месяца назад
they were rlly walking up and down essos looking for a safe place to exist
@Daniel_D.s
@Daniel_D.s Месяц назад
I feel sad for him even tho he was a prick. I would've enjoyed to see a savage and stronger version of his character.
@rhythmetist
@rhythmetist 5 месяцев назад
where do you get all those fabulous illustrations?
@sammakesstuff4176
@sammakesstuff4176 5 месяцев назад
internet
@TheHobbyistT
@TheHobbyistT 2 месяца назад
Let me tell you reading this, I didn’t realize there was incest in the book and was so confused when I read “she had always assumed she’d marry Viseries” I had to flip back a few pages just to confirm that I did infact read that right. Then the show came out and it all made sense
@technicolormind
@technicolormind 4 месяца назад
You and your partner are sweet to watch. He's a good sport to be on camera and seems kind. 😊 Also, I was literally just in DC. This would have been helpful because I was working remote from there for a few days!
@enamweaknopahknop9661
@enamweaknopahknop9661 2 месяца назад
If instead of Viserys, it was Daemon, oh boy, the Targaryen woulda come back for Robert’s head with authority.
@rollercoaster478
@rollercoaster478 25 дней назад
Targaryens marrying each other to keep the bloodlines pure is their greatest downfall. Rhaegar figured it out correctly that Targs need the correct bloodline mixed with theirs - Starks, because Starks have warging and greenseer abilities, which compliment Targ abilities, and would help to bring dragons back.
@FemiNelson-sb1em
@FemiNelson-sb1em 2 месяца назад
So this is another story of accepted incestuous relationships. Gosh, the minds of these Authors. 😢...."Isa"
@lokesharyan6880
@lokesharyan6880 3 месяца назад
Why didn’t they had a son before going to Dothraki..they might have a heir😢
@ovandocarter6377
@ovandocarter6377 Месяц назад
such a sad story. I actually feel sorry for him.
@ahmadalimi9784
@ahmadalimi9784 7 дней назад
Him? Or her.
@Mirchikthebread
@Mirchikthebread 3 месяца назад
Ох уж це «залишити малювання як хобі». Трохи страждаю із цього приводу, але що робити, як не малювати. Дуже сподіваюсь, що зі вступом до університету моє бажання повернеться. А Ви- чудова художниця, уже кілька років надихаюсь Вашими роботами. Дякую👁
@UnfazedPhoenix
@UnfazedPhoenix 7 дней назад
Keep the line pure....marries her off to Khal Drogo.. 😂
@mikeydon1010
@mikeydon1010 5 месяцев назад
My middle name is Daenerys
@user-ph5bc5gq9n
@user-ph5bc5gq9n 2 месяца назад
And this is what Lyanna's hypocrisy and Rhaegar's selfishness combined did to both of their families: Lyanna's brother and father murdered, Rhaegar's mother, wife and two kids murdered, Viserys and Daenerys left in poverty, and more or less susceptible to death and rape, with no people left to guide and protect them.
@jwells1914
@jwells1914 5 месяцев назад
I’m definitely stating the obvious but Viserys was so damn short sighted.
@Underverse_guy
@Underverse_guy Месяц назад
I couldn't stop crying. Thank you for the motivation ❤
@fynnfish
@fynnfish 2 месяца назад
I wonder if we ever see that crown again
@LILI_KV
@LILI_KV 10 дней назад
Португалия была рядышком, а потом устала и уплыла… 🤠
@reginageorge5251
@reginageorge5251 2 месяца назад
“Her whole life” 💀 she was 13 when she got married to Khal Drogo
@testtube173
@testtube173 3 месяца назад
I bet George has to rewrite the next book to adhere to esg scores
@imanshamsuria7846
@imanshamsuria7846 3 месяца назад
Reasons why I dropped this after waiting for the next chapter…
@Wolfenstein69924
@Wolfenstein69924 Месяц назад
Makes me wonder if the Targaryen madness is really a genetic condition or is it just trauma after trauma making them snap?
@KevinMcdonald-i9y
@KevinMcdonald-i9y 8 дней назад
Hmmm There is interesting parallels in this Imagine we made humans telepathic with ai and llms.... Well....that would be like Targaryen riding the dragon of the realms The Problem you probably really would need to be some sort of psychic to do it And you cant just mate those people with anyone .. It will be humans first instinct... And idk... Probably cause that angelic notion to fade out mostly from the gene poole Kinda just is what it is ..
@aimen4413
@aimen4413 2 месяца назад
What I don’t understand is why Jon Snow made such a big deal when he found out she was his aunt. They could have shared the throne and risen up the Targaryen dynasty again
@lawv804
@lawv804 5 месяцев назад
Im sure Viserys was a terrible houseguest.
@Kadasberry11
@Kadasberry11 2 месяца назад
🌧️ Every time I think I’m done, don’t need anymore mods, I find another one of your videos 😂 I’m finna get me a tattoo chair and a vacuum. Throw in the hotpot too 😭
@sophieaizah5115
@sophieaizah5115 4 месяца назад
Book name?
@beacreates4370
@beacreates4370 4 месяца назад
Game of Thrones
@movieloverfan18
@movieloverfan18 4 месяца назад
Game of Thrones the first book of the Song of Ice and Fire series. The Daenerys storyline in that book was amazing After Robert's Rebellion the children of King Aerys find themselves in exile in Essos while Prince Viserys tries to make allies to regain the throne. Normally the Royal Targaryen line marries within their own blood, but he needs to marry her to Khal Drogo for an army.
@derrickboyce87
@derrickboyce87 3 месяца назад
They shouldve at had babies together
@rajamohammed8683
@rajamohammed8683 5 месяцев назад
We see constant debates about keeping bloodlines pure. Such debates themselves show us that the need for pure bloodlines exist. Or so I think. That's why Abrahamic religions insist on marriages and unions among cousins
@MouthwashTyphoon
@MouthwashTyphoon 4 месяца назад
Uhhh no they do not
@lauramitchell_
@lauramitchell_ 5 месяцев назад
how would being a sailor taint their bloodline?
@神林しマイケル
@神林しマイケル 5 месяцев назад
They will become tan 😂
@sophiemoconnell
@sophiemoconnell Месяц назад
This is just another bit of evidence that Dany isn't who she thinks she is.
@WeepingValkyrie
@WeepingValkyrie 2 месяца назад
Its weird to me how Viserys turned out given all they went through. Youd think hed be a bit more humble.
@mrudulakale8661
@mrudulakale8661 3 месяца назад
How come marrying sister to a brother noble?
@anandhakaram
@anandhakaram 3 месяца назад
Because they've magical blood and it must be preserved
@leannap3918
@leannap3918 2 месяца назад
The ML eyes are Gorgeous 😊
@jessicafurtado7529
@jessicafurtado7529 12 дней назад
So Targaryens dissenting into madness was genetic? 🤔
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