Why did Carl Jung avoid meeting the famous Indian saint Ramana Maharshi? 

An Excellent & Wonderful documentary....Thank you🙏

This may be the only time I've heard Jung bullshitting himself. He was simply afraid.

In his writing about his visit to India and meeting that holy man he met Jung must have given us one of the most beautiful descriptions of what makes a saint a Saint: “He has found a meaning in the rushing phantasmagoria of being, freedom in bondage, victory in defeat.”

I've been a student of Ramana and Jung for several decades and believe that Jung avoided meeting Ramana because he understood what Ramana represented was a transcendence of the psyche Jung was so ardently intrigued with. Jung was so entranced and attached with the sphere of mythical experience (yogis might regard as the "astral"), and a meeting with Ramana would require him dropping all of that. I think this video affirmed this understanding.

This was undoubtedly a mistake on Jung’s part. He most certainly should have visited Maharshi.

A lot of words to say "I guess I was scared".. Unnecessarily so.

Personally I think the reason why Jung didn't go and see Ramana is the fear that he will be totally overwhelmed. One of the things that a real enlightened man involuntarily does to those in his presence is to emanate silence. In that silence all karmic vasanas will get destroyed. It may seem strange but there is real fear in some people for this because when one's vasanas are destroyed, one loses one's personality. That is the death of the ego. For some that is what they really want. For others who are not quite ready, that can be a very frightening prospect indeed.

I think that was the longest answer I have ever heard for a simple question but then he did not really even answer the question lol!

I understood it he found someone better. And meeting the man could have been a disappointing. Most importantly what he needed came to him. Ending the circle for himself. I don't think he wanted to be a mystic. He wanted to be what he became. Without him his branch would have never been the same. He walked his path and followed his council. And that is good so.

I’m deeply grateful for both of them. Jung was incredibly spiritual while incorporating the worldly mind too. I’ve been using Ramana’s self inquiry for years. I love both of their hugely significant contributions to both myself and the world.

Sri ramana must smile with love at this

For those interested: Peter Kingsley, a famous and too much neglected original scholar of the pre-socratic thinkers Parmenides, Empedocles and Zeno of Elea, wrote a two volume piece of work on Jungs 'mysticism' (Catafalque), certainly not from the perspective of oriental wisdom, but from Jung's own background and interest in historical phenomena like alchemy. Highly recommended.

German philosophers never made it past the intellect.

Jung's words on this are a bunch of fluffy goofiness masking his immense neurotic phobia of the changes that might take place in himself if he were to meet an enlightened being. Because such an experience I think he feels intuitively might undercut his ego too close for comfort and so he avoided having such an experience as that it was deemed personally threatening. I don't believe Jung neglected to meet Romana Maharshi because he feared being disappointed but because he had this fear of losing part or all of the ego structure which he had built and cherished.

In some ways Jung understood that the Real Sri Ramana Maharshi was not residing at Arunachala . Genuinely Enlightened Sages are not limited by time or space , that it is why it is still possible to feel His Living Presence here and now. 🙏🕉️🕊️

His name alone is beautiful Shri Ramana Maharshi.

I don’t think Jung was afraid as some say here. Ramm Dass studied psychology. And he studied in India under a guru. When he came back he began to reaffirm his identity. When people asked about this conflict in philosophy he said, „It’s nice to reach enlightenment, it’s also nice to know your address.“ This is the paradox that Jung was writing about in his observation of the devotee he met. That man both experienced the holy and lived a life a duty to family and community. Jung was more interested in this Bodhisatva, this Indra, living in the mundane world with all its difficulties, than Maharishi himself.

Just ordered a book "Apprenticed to a Himalayan Master " written by Sri M . A Muslim born man who in his early age went to Himalayas in search of Mystic and came back as a Yogi . India is full of mysticism and interesting stories for sure .

!!!!! Wow! Thank you! Gives such a glimpse into the great intellectual of Jung!!

When I was Ramanashram the Master has been longtime dead but his presence was still there

So awesome. Many thanks and many blessings for such a beautiful, beautiful video. Aloha.

Avoiding a bonafide Buddha is like a Beatles fan knowing John Lennon was in the cafe next door, and he wanted to meet you, but you stay away. Imagine!

He did meet him. Not in person as everyone wanted him to do, he encountered him as that, what Maharshi really was, and that is not a person or a guru, so he met him in the spirit of India on a much deeper level than personhood could ever describe. Maybe he could not bring that experience into his own teaching, but maybe, that was'nt the way it should have been. Those, who believed he should have met him, they themselves have not understood or felt, what was represented in the form of Maharshi. They just saw in him a Person, a holy man, someone who had reached a certain state, they themselves wanted to reach......... their thoughts and suggestions came from the illusion of separation. If you really open up to the words of Carl Jung in his summary regarding his visit in India you can feel the holy spirit, that is represented in anyone, in everything, no matter, what you call it.

When Jung was asked if he believed in God, he said, 'I know God'

If Mr.Jung could have visited the Saint I feel that he would have remained silent throughout his rest of life

To me, Jung's reasons for not meeting Ramana Maharshi come across as a massive rationalization.

Psychology always starts with a person and examines what makes a person behave in a certain way in certain circumstances. The thoughts in a person's mind and the influences which causes these thoughts. In Ramana Maharishi's teachings, the "Person"= "I", this itself is a thought and when all thoughts cease to exist this "I" also ceases to exist by merging with the self or emptiness or whatever terminology one can use. So for psychology, the person was the Ground, upon which all the study was conducted upon. And with Ramana Maharishi, the person is just a stage build upon an another ground. Which they say as self or emptiness. This can't be examined unless one experiences. So no matter if one studies scriptures or Ramana Maharishi's teachings doesn't make the person a wise person than a psychologist, like many who are mocking Carl Jung here. Its just a memory or a vritti or knowledge. Realising it and living it every breathing moment is what makes the difference. Ones claiming they are spiritual and psychologists are not wise as their masters, this is just another ego trip and dopamine high one gets by showing that they are holier than others. Just stick with the teaching without worrying about validation from anyone around you. Got this video in suggestion and people mocking carl jung just pissed me off. As long as an "I" Exists, psychology is very much needed for everyone around to get a better understanding about their personality traits and the incidents happening to them. Jung is a phenomenon in psychology who decoded this in a rational way. People here mocking Jung may not rationally realised Jung's teachings or Experientially realised Bhagvan's teachings. This is not healthy.

Two hours from Tiruvannamalai... Perhaps that was as close as he could get to Ramana Maharshi and himself: two hours.

As Ramana once said... doubt was the last thing to overcome... While fascinated and caught up in the story, " thinking" your way out... is happening in the ever present pure silent awareness of the Self....

My feeling is that Carl Yung kept away, physically, from Remana Mahrishi, as he internally scared of a cathartic change in himself, which would have lead him to complete sainthood. It happened to the French monk, Henry Le Saux, who is later known as Swamy Abhishiktananda. And many others, which I only assume.

People need to understand the difference between the very intellect of our mind and the intelligence we call the life force, what drives the body and mind. In the West, they dealt more with the mind itself than with what created it, and by glorifying intellect, they stopped everything that happened before birth and after death. Unlike the West, Eastern Spiritual Teachers,especially India have prioritized precisely the energy that moves man and passes from one form to another, infinitely many times, that the mind cannot even comprehend such a thing because it is limited by time and space as opposed to the life force or energy itself.. Definitely in order to be able to get out of the frame of mind and body, one has to spiritually overcome everything that connects us to the ego or the current state of consciousness, which is really difficult. With regard, ROMANA from Croatia, Zagreb!!! 🌬️🌀🌌🙏🏻

Thank you 🙏🏿 for posting this

Here I'm thinking why i born such late, why i couldn't meet the ancient soul Shri Ramana. And here a guy who knew very well still did not meet thinking Ramana be just another mystic. One glance from Ramana could have liberated you man. Intelligence causes barrier in surrender for sure.

" Carl Gustav Jung was in India. He went to see the Taj Mahal, he went to see Khajuraho, he went to see the temples of Konarak, but he did not go to see Ramana Maharshi. And wherever he went, he was again and again told that "You being one of the topmost psychoanalysts in the West, you should not miss this opportunity of meeting a eastern mystic who has come to his full flowering." He was in the South, within two hours distance he could have reached Ramana Maharshi. For three months he was in India, but he avoided. This cannot be just coincidence. And he himself felt that he needs to give some explanation, otherwise it will be felt that he has been avoiding. And naturally, he was a great intellectual and a great psychoanalyst -- he could find any excuse and any explanation and he found the explanation which is very dangerous. His explanation was back in *Zurich, he gave the statement that he did not go to see Ramana Maharshi because the ways of the East and the West are different and the eastern way is dangerous for the western man because he has developed differently, his tradition is different, his culture is different, his religion is different, his whole psychic development is different. It is dangerous to bring into this different psychology any method from the East because that is developed for a different kind of man, for a different kind of psychology -- that's why I did not go." But this is all rubbish because who was saying to you that you have to follow Ramana Maharshi, who was saying to you that you have to use his techniques, his methods? All that people were insisting was that you should at least see him. Just meeting him would not have destroyed your western psychology. And if it is so weak, so fragile, that just seeing the Ramana Maharshi it is going to be destroyed, then it is not worth -- it should be destroyed and sooner the better. Why waste time with such a weak thing? Ramana Maharshi is not afraid of you. When he was told that Carl Gustav Jung is here and he has been continuously told by every psychologist he is meeting in India that "It is useless to meet professors of psychoanalysis in India because they are simply repeating like parrots what you are producing in the West. It is better to go to see something unique and different so you have a certain comparison. Perhaps he may be coming." And Ramana was overjoyed. He said, "He is welcome. Whenever he wants to come, I am available." And this man is uneducated. He left his home when he was only seventeen. He is not an expert in anything. He is not a logician, he is not a philosopher and he is not afraid of one of the founders of psychoanalysis. He is happy to see him. But the psychoanalyst is a coward. To me this is not just an incident between Jung and Ramana; it is very symbolic, very significant. The western psychoanalysis is afraid because it is based on shifting sands, it has no foundation. So if you ask me, I cannot suggest you small changes here and there. I cannot tell you how you can renovate leaving the old structure intact -- just giving it a new paint, a new arrangement of furniture and things like that. No. The whole structure is from the foundation is wrong. The western psychology has to drop the ego and has to find the real self and that is possible only through meditation. And the East has done it for thousands of years. So it is not something new, it is not something unexplored, it is not something Quixotic. It is something for which centuries stand in support. And not a single meditator has gone mad, not a single meditator has committed suicide, not a single meditator has committed rape. It is not only expertise, intellectual understanding; it is a transformation of the man himself. The psychoanalyst has to be reminded of one of the Socratic sayings: physician, first heal thyself. The psychoanalyst himself is sick, utterly sick. He is not different from the patient. They are in the same boat. He is having the same nightmares, he is suffering from the same mental tensions, he is feeling the same meaninglessness and he is trying to help people who are having the same diseases. How he can be a authority? With what face he can emphasize to the patient that things can be different? His whole personality is not involved in his work. It is only his education. It is something like a man gets educated in the history of art, becomes a great historian about all the art that has happened in the world, but he cannot draw a straight line himself. Because that does not come in the history. That is not a point at all. His expertise is history. This is the situation with the psychoanalyst: he knows everything about the mind, but he does not know how to change it, he cannot change his own mind, because for every change you have to be separate from the thing you are going to change. And he is identified with the mind -- who is going to change whom? Meditation creates the gap. It takes you beyond and behind the mind, then you can change, because mind becomes an object to you. Then you are no more identified with the mind. Then you can rearrange or you can completely change and the mind cannot affect you at all. You are so far away, so above, that the mind cannot reach to you. The mind not reaching to you gives you a tremendous power. You can reach to the mind and you can change anything you want and the mind is for the first time helpless. And you can help your patients for meditation. Right now they are telling to their patients futile exercises of dream analysis. The patient comes twice a week or thrice a week for one hour, talks about all his dreams. And while he is talking about the dreams, sitting behind the couch, do you think the psychoanalyst is listening to him? Is he capable of listening? For that he will need a silent mind which he has not got. Perhaps he is dreaming himself, sitting behind"

Rationalization, the downfall that is western intellectualism.

Exceptional....Lots of thanks...

What a man gives to the world as a concrete understanding of the universe and a solution to the problems of humanity is what makes the man famous. Spirituality by itself is meaningless if it doesn't water the realities of life.

There is a specific music artist who i consider to be my hero in life, who i had 2 chances to meet in person (was quite literally inches away from him) and decided not to each time. the first reason was because i respected him too much to bother him and he seemed rather tired and exhausted after performing all night, and the other reason was because i felt intimidated just by the thought to be in the presence of someone who i respected so much. i was just grateful i got to see his performance in person.

I always felt that those who become ‘ascetics’ can NOT truly understand Advaitin knowledge. Only a householder can. There are suggestions of this in so many Vedantic writings as well as Yoga Vasistha and Mahabharata. That is a true Jivanmuktin who lives in the world fully while knowing that there is more than this limited reality we observe. As in the story of Cudala, the king who becomes an ascetic is approaching the world in more maya and avidhya.

Sri Ramana Maharshi gently exposed the limits of rationalism.

"He had eaten the world." Damn, that's powerful. Get to flow state as often as you can and revel in this place.

everyone seems to be forgetting the question was who am I not who is ramana maharshi

Ramana Maharshi was not a person or individual. He had no "I am the body" consciousness similar to ordinary human beings. The "person" that was witnessed by people who visited the ashram in Tiruvannamalai was merely an appearance of the ONE Existence, Consciousness, Bliss, similar to a mirage that we see as a body of water but in fact is only an appearance of it. It is impossible to understand the Reality of Ramana Maharshi, one can only experience It by becoming one with It. Can the human mind understand that Reality that powers it? It is possible to see everything except the eyes that enable one to see!

Purposely dodging Ramana Maharshi is like someone from the 1960's purposely avoiding going to see the Beatles. Ramana didn't even charge. People were able to walk into the mahsrshi's ashram and be with the guy. You didn't even need a ticket.

Jung knows that his image will collapse when he meets Ramana Maharshi

It is like a man who has a chance to meet a billionaire and ask him for financial advice, but he says "No thanks I can read the personal finance books in the library and watch personal finance videos on RU-vid."

Itihasa is NOT mythology. Mythology is what we believe currently in the West regarding the age of civilization and the importance of India in this context. Poor Jung, by overthinking everything, he missed out on the very most important moment of his life!

well rendered

OMG! THIS VIDEO IS INCREDIBLY PROFOUND, THE JUNGS ANSWER TO HIS FELLOW FRIEND CAUTH ME BY SURPRISE TOTALLY. A TRUE STATEMENT FROM THIS PROFOUND CONNOISSEUR OF THE HUMAN PSIQUE.

In India Jung did meet average spiritual teachers but the two greatest ones he purposely avoided. I have spent many seasons in India and Ramana Ashram and have also some background with Jung's work. A number of times friends that were not deeply willing to go for enlightenment would be very available to meet the second rate swami's but would beg off when I asked if they would like to come with me to meet the great ones. Jung's answer about the Maharshi sounds good but I know enough of what he said to not buy it. it seems really he just couldn't face the great ones.

Jung didn't meet Maharishi because he was afraid he would become a monk? Bit of a stretch there, but nice documentary of both of these concepts.

Very insightful.

Great search to include this wonderful message Sir

The real reason Carl Jung avoided Ramana Maharshi is the same reason Jung wouldn't have met with Padre Pio or Sri Aurobindo: These men lived in a consciousness beyond the mere mental. Jung was afraid of going beyond the mind he so loved and the unconscious he loved to explore. Jung was afraid of experiencing something that made his prior understandings relatively meaningless. Fear. Fear that his "knowledge" would be shown "ignorance." Fear that his "wisdom" would be shown "foolishness." Fear that his stature would shrink and shrivel. Fear. There is an Indian parable of a sage instructing an aspirant to "go farther." That aspirant set out on his journey and every time he came across something wonderful and fulfilling, he remembered the sages advice to "go farther." So each time he didn't stop and settle for his achievement but "went farther," eventually becoming fully enlightened. Jung was not such an aspirant. He didn't want to "go farther." What he had already achieved gave him name and fame and wide respect. Jung had no intention of giving that up, so he feared meeting Ramana Maharshi in person. Fear.

I'm sorry , but at what point did Yung regret this meeting ? I actually heard (which u read) him say the opposite. Please point this out. Thank u

They don't understand this great powerful mystic Ramana maharshi.

It is only through divine grace that one gets to meet a being like Ramana Maharishi. CJ probably wasn't destined for this Grace. My other guess is - Jung was too much under the spell of his mind and intuitively knew that his lifetime of intellectual work could shatter into pieces after meeting the Maharishi who was beyond mind. After watching this video, I am surprised to know that Carl Jung did not cultivate humility.

Because he could not see Truth in the face; it would have exposed his limitations. He could not translate theory into practice. But in reality that is what we all also do. We all talk about Truth. Instead, we should practice it.

I really appreciate this.

I think you've all got Carl Jung's sentiment on this issue incorrect. He's saying he didn't need to seek out the man because he found him in all things, as his dear friend Heinrich Zimmer had, though he was unable to ever visit India. For the mystical spirit of Ramana Maharshi is not limited to one man in a physical encounter, but is attainable and accessible to all, in all things. This video is misleading.

The reason why Jung could not meet Bhagavan. In one word. Prarabdha. Unless one has been ‘invited’ one cannot so easily meet such figures.

I lost Carl Jung the momeny i heard that he was afraid to meet.... so much talking , and yet when Golden chance came... his Ego trembled. So sad !

He was already overwhelmed and overpowered by him when he visited the country. He saw him everywhere and in every person, objects or things! He experienced his omnipresence!

What a shame. He had a chance to see the Truth that he had been searching for all his life. Jung was a man with an enquiring mind. Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi could not and can not be defined. Knowingly Jung threw away the opportunity for Darshan with Bhagavan Maharshi. Incomprehensible. Perhaps it was related to Zimmer as he referred to Maharshi as being "the latest holy man" as if it were a flavor of the month or a fad.

Absolutely spot on.. I know Osho talked about him in much the same way.. though more ironacally..

Rather disappointed in Jung for his "you've seen one; you've seen 'em all" approach to Bhagavan. Shaktipat notwithstanding, what a remarkable opportunities to be in the presence of an avatar - even if he believed it in reputation alone. David Godman's writing about Sri Ramana Maharshi is storied and illuminating. His channel and interview with Anthony Chene are both great. Namaste, all.

You are absolutely correct. He was worried that the scientific community will see him as unscientific and they will throw the baby out with the bath water. That would also ruin his career. Hence he always maintained distance though he knew what was right. That said, he did come out in open after his retirement.

Jungs words were pure joy and truth, as for the babbling opinion of the narrator well the less said the better

I totally understand where he was coming from. He understood several basics or precepts first of all, that preclude the 'specialness' of meeting just such a mystic: 1.) Mystics find their 'enlightenment' by disavowing or almost completely detaching from reality itself, thusly enabling their insights only via 'defeat' - because one cannot scrutinize life at such a level and simultaneously participate in it. 2.) He understood that the mystic, of all his archetypes, is perhaps among the oldest prototypes of all humanity - especially since India was another cradle of civilization, especially in terms of religions since Hinduism is among the oldest recorded religions and caste systems around. 3.) He understood that the man might more easily be either a disappointment or merely 'an everyman of that type' than a particular prodigy of his field since it stretches out to time immemorial and is easily among the most taken-up castes of all time... 4.) He felt he had absorbed 'quite enough and then some' (to paraphrase a bit) of the energy of the impression or teachings left behind by this famous person moreso than seeing the representation himself might bequeath to him. 5.) He felt at least somewhat beholden to the expansion of his field, which might've withered on the vine if he had rededicated himself in the way suggested. 6.) Most importantly of all, I believe from his writings (admittedly knowing little of the details but only the gist of his works in his career...) that he caught a 'glimpse' as it were, in those moments spent in India, a glimpse into not only the patterned thinkings and doings/not-doings of the Holy Man archetype but in general into the interrelationship or interconnectedness of the Holy Man's soulful gesturings and society itself, a 'dance of the Avatar' if you will, throughout recorded history, now still stolidly echoed throughout India as its main bastion. The sacrifices and dedication involved - the impact of the soulfulness and intent - the role throughout history - and, having seen it for what it was without having once met the man - he knew he got what he needed, for his journeys and his role in history.

Good vid

Thanks for this. I would add that Jung's father made a powerful impression on him. His father was also a "holy man," but someone Jung considered to be an ultimately tragic figure. His father was intelligent and well-educated, but Jung saw his him as wasted potential and trapped in his profession of minister as a means to support the family. Losing faith would have threatened everyone's survival. Fear of that hung in the air, which had to be strange in a family populated by ministers, (and one of Jung's earliest memories was of being terrified by a Jesuit priest coming down the road, only because I think he had picked up on what that “other religion” meant to his Protestant father). Jung hated how deliberately limited his father's library was and felt it was a profound betrayal of the intellect for his father to eschew certain authors, just because they might raise questions or instill doubt. Later on, he was horrified when he realized his father lacked the sense of divine grace Jung had experienced himself. Not only was Jung's revelatory experience not in alignment with anything traditional, it had a real rebellious streak to it. All it required was for Jung to surrender to it (something his father, the ever-devout and disciplined figure that he was, could never do). I think that throughout his childhood, Jung wrestled with a feeling that may not have been entirely his own: the sense that religious symbols, in themselves, were empty; and tradition without revelation was meaningless. This might have been his father’s secret struggle more than his. Jung also grew up with "God is Dead" Nietzsche and later, his friend S. Freud went to great lengths to convert him to a certain way of thinking. He tried to impress Jung with how vitally important it was to dismiss all mysticism or paranormal experiences as nothing, and rely only on empiricism (in the form of sexualizing almost everything). Freud's determination to excise everything mysterious seemed like an obsession to Jung. I suspect that to Jung, both his father and Freud were different sides of the same coin. Both had had their own forms of the fear of losing faith and both had willfull blindness. This all happened with the background of a culture torn between God and science... During Jung’s childhood and college years, Europe was experiencing a deep questioning of religion, tradition, and spirituality. Who knows what the prospect of meeting Ramana Maharshi would have represented to Jung? But I suspect his thoughts may have turned back to his father, the first “holy man” in his life.

We’ll, if anything Jung showed how our mind is a great tool but it can be a great hindrance if we want to go further towards self realization, a great example of what not to fear 🙏🏽 great Documentary, thank you 🙏🏽

I am very happy this appeared on my feed. I am very much interested in jung but also convinced of nonduality. Anyhow it appears to me that discipline and a certain amount of belief is unavoidable to get 'it'.

Ich habe dieses Buch, Hinrich Zimmer und Karl Jung kannten sich ja gut. Heinrich Zimmer, Der Weg zum Selbst. hat er ein Vorwort und die Begründung. er war nicht wie Ramesh S. Balsekar ein Familienvater. Ramanas Aufgabe war auch eine viel universellere. Immerhin, Carl Jung war selbst in Indien, nicht wie Hermann Hesse. Er nennt Ramana den leuchtetsten aller Guruarchetypen Indiens, ja, das mag stimmern. Aber es ist viel zu wenig. Denn er hat der Welt als erster Mensch überhaupt erklärt wo die Quelle allen Seins entsprichgt. An Ramana kommt man noch viel weniger vorbei als an C.G.Jung, ein Turgauer...ein Zürcher... ein Liebhaber des Taoismus, ein sehr interessanter Sexologen, aber kein Mystiker wie im Kern. Gandhi stand auch vor den Toren eines der grössten Mystikers der Neuzeit, aber er wollte sich nicht aufsaugen lassen, seine Politik zuende führen. Aber Jung hat tatsächlich eine Chance verpasst.

Conclusion 'mind can only take you so far ' Yes ,that's why it is said that the mind is what stands between man & God (supreme consciousness)

The transparency stage of Nirvana(nakedness) is everywhere in Samanam India

Good video

Jung's basic aim was contrary to that of the Eastern mystic, who seeks to surrender the ego to the non-dual Oneness. Jung believed that only in holding onto and strengthening the ego can one Avoid being subsumed into and disintegrated by the Mass Mind, the vast Unconscious. Jung sought Individuation, rather than assimilation into the Whole.

I LOVE both these men but that's a lot of words & assumptions from Mr. Jung, it makes sense that something else was going on as u say. BTW, as a Tibetan Buddhist, I think our yidam practice is MOST similar to Jung than other practices in mysticism, as you use an 'archetypal deity' as your yidam & become the deity to transform your mind. The ultimate goals are different but they're pretty similar.

Yes, it may seem very contradictory that C Jung decided to not seek out Shri Ramana (or any other “Holy man”) while in India. My interpretation is that Jung was wise enough to understand what that would have meant for him. It is not unreasonable to think a very primal form of fear, the type of fear that arise from a deep questioning of self itself, arose in him? It should have! Believe me, the experience of India can be both the most inspiring and exhilarating experience for someone inclined towards the spiritual dimension. But it can also be the most frightful experience of all for someone that is really seeking out the true wisdom beyond the self. I believe C Jung knew this and decided not to take that next step in his development at that time. That is the most personal and private decision anyone can encounter and no one else can have any opinion about that. Only the truly free and enlightened being will understand this and such being would never ever dream of criticizing someone for being hesitant. If you decide to step into and commit to the wisdom realm of a genuine guru, then total abandonment is essential. I believe C Jung understood this and knew he was not yet ready for that, at that time. How many of us can honestly say that we are mature enough to step into such a relationship right now? To go beyond ego and all concepts is only possible when other avenues of inquiries have been exhausted. That’s when a true guru appears to us and we can commit to the complete destruction of our own personal construction.

is it possible to have a french version of this video ? ( or just the text ). Est t'il possible d'avoir une version francaise de cette video ? (ou simplement le texte ) merci !

I love Jung. But that sounds like a very verbose way of saying, yeah, i was a bit nervous/just forgot.

Perhaps he was frightened by the intuition that everything he knew would dissolve like a sugar cube in the gaze of a truly free man, and he avoided it.

This is insightful, sri ramana, on answering devotees who travelled from near and far to see him and know him, were asked, why come this far to know/understand what one could easily arrive at without any such efforts? Jung knew the real without having to follow his thoughts or thoughts of others directions or implications as to what real is or could be.

Compassion is something we experience whether it comes from us or from beyond. It is necessary to life, health and sanity. But, we only know this because of honesty and freedom, which we find in living.

it feels to me like the author of the video didnt understand what jung meant in his letter...

What I recall reading is that he tried, but was only able to meet with one of Ramana Maharshi's disciples. I think the title has it backwards.

i still didnt get why he didnt visit him and who exaclty the indian mystic was. the whole clip goes on and on about how great he was, but not about why and what he did and what was so great about him

Does anyone know where this passage from Jung is from? It’s stunning

Om namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya

It's completely obvious that Jung was afraid to meet Ramana Maharshi. The only question is "why was he afraid?"

His explanation reveals that Sri Ramana Maharshi is at his mere centre and one should try a life time to reach the center of what can I say the Atma

I think Jung undersood the symbol that man represented to all India, at the same time knowing that no man is all holy or all wisdom, and by meeting him, he would have to tell the truth: everyone has its shadow, no man can completly know himself and that is the way of life. There is always something more to uncover from our heritage. So much pain and sorrow buried deep in our genealogical tree. If that man inspired other people to know themselves and strive to be better, why should he expose him? Uncovering his humanity would take away his holiness from the eyes of people and with that, their hope. That is why he was happy meeting his disciple; in anonimity, without holy titles, that little man represented more truthfully his masters teachings, and that is what is wonderful. Seeing the Truth working in daily life.

Truth is different from philosophy . Truth is experience in samadhi state of mind n freedom from false identity by knowing answer for who am I ' really.

Weak excuse from CG and he knew it. This was his opportunity to meet Christ’s consciousness in the flesh and he flunks it by waffling about archetypes. Regardless of this, CG revolutionised Western thinking with his connection to his genius. Unfortunately going to Tiru was a step too far.

Too bad for C.J. that he missed such an opportunity.

All Jung had to say was he didn't feel like it. He didn't owe anyone an explanation. Especially, a long winded one like this one.

"Who am I? "I am no one."

Is all about divine timing 🙏🙏🙏 only when one is ready to meet.

yeah, I know about this and I find it very stupid from his part, kinda became disillusioned in him after this information... he lacked the courage to meet a true sage saint and have his mind blown, to go beyond the mind... what it tells me about him is that he never truly experienced the mystery beyond intellectual understanding that can only be superficial, it's like writing books about psychedelic trips without ever taking psychedelics, or giving lectures about how an apple tastes without ever tasting a real apple, does not work at all.